no colombians in Texas?

utopiacowboy says on Oct 19, 2006, 21:26:

There are two daily nonstop flights from Houston to Colombia. How come you're not on one of them? Why is it that Colombians have such a problem with Mexicans? Do they have bigger dicks or what?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Oct 19, 2006, 23:19:

why would you want Tex-Col? Food? that food would absolutely suck.
One or the other. You got Tex-Mex, because of the obvious; they are adjacent geographically. Plus, it even f at *king rhymes. jeje. It's an easy blend, from there, culturally speaking.

Utc, they got the problem, because just about all other hispanics put the Mexicans at the bottom of the totem poll. So, it's one place the Colombians can join in, with everyone else behind them, and put the Mexicans down.
I have never figured this out. What's up? (I don't care for the Mexican culture so much, as well? Why is that?) It is like 'country-western' music; certain conditions have to exist, for me to be able to tolerate listening. Same things for 'things Mexican'. How did we all arrive at this perspective?

What time does the other flight leave? (It's not daily anymore...only three or four days a week, from Houston to Cali, on Continental.)

Ciao! Gustav.

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MacGringo says on Oct 20, 2006, 02:30:

nyone know if there are many Colombians in the San Diego area??

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Olgalucia says on Oct 20, 2006, 05:42:

Hey guys!! Colombian111 only said he's tired of tex-mex food that's all!!! He didn't say anything about Mexicans - Relax!! Colombians have a problem with Mexicans??? Not this Colombian!!

"I am not bound to please thee with my answers" William Shakespeare

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 20, 2006, 05:46:

You're right, Galecito. The flight to Cali is only three days a week. The flight to Bogota is still daily departing at 3:55 PM. My stepkids used to make fun of Mexicans until I pointed out to them that anyone who sees them here thinks they are Mexicans. When they realized that they were being lumped in with the Mexicans that changed their attitude towards them.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 05:59:

thangs Olga! Tex-Mex gets old after a while. As far as Maxicanitas , well muy ricas . As far as the rest remember you aren't a Mexican, you are a not a Mexican ,but a Mexi-can ! Si se puede !
Hey got a joke for you.
A Redneck was out shooting his shut gun when his friends asked him why he was practicing....
He said he was practicing to shoot cans!
When his friends asked what he meant by cans he replied......
" Mexi-cans, Puertori-cans , Domini-cans...."

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Monpirri says on Oct 20, 2006, 07:42:

What's going on in this part of the world? UTC, let me see if I get this right? You are telling your kids from Colombia that they are nobody here, in your neighborhood, because they are a minority in your city so they have to change their culture and become one under the umbrella of the largest ethnic group?
Well, there are other ethnic groups that Do Not follow your example, for example, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Peruvians and of course there are other groups in San Antonio, Texas.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 20, 2006, 08:09:

Monpirri makes a point but...... What monpirri forgot to mention is that if you add up all of PRs, cubans Peruvians, and of course Colombians together, they don't even come close to the number of Mexicans here. In fact, there are so many Mexicans here, that if you add up all the other non Mexican Latinos, the sum still would not equal the number of Mexicans.

Now Gelacito, let's look at your comment. (which is also at or near the bottom of the totem poll)

"because just about all other hispanics put the Mexicans at the bottom of the totem poll"

I have never heard any educated and/or civil minded Latino refer to Mexicans in that manner. Why should any Lationo think that their culture is better than anothers'? Can you explain that to me. I'll put it to you another way. Every advancement, that Latinos have made in this country, whether it be matters related to bilingual education programs, employment, or civil rights that have included one's ethnicity as a protected interest, has been made because of the MEXICAN population in this country. Colombian's, as well as every other Latino group living here, have benefited from their efforts. Yet they walk around this country like a bunch of fools complaining about a group of people whose very presense they have benefited from.

Did you ever hear of MALDEF? If you haven't you may want to Google them and see all the terrific work they have done for the Latino Community as a whole. Find me a Colombian, PR, Cuban or any other Lation group that has worked as hard as they have.

Even today, with immigration reform looming on the horizon, do you think congress would be debating the issue because of the handfull of illegal Colombians here? Once again, if and when some form of amnesty or earned amnesty becomes a reality here, it will have been because of the MEXICANS, both legal and illegal ones that brought that change to fruition.

You people just never quit with your racist crap. What are your problems? Inferiority complex....or something? Grow up and think intelliegently for a change

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 20, 2006, 08:58:

So, Monpirri, are you defending my stepkids in making fun of Mexicans? I wasn't suggesting that they are or become Mexicans - I was merely pointing out to them that to uneducated observers, all the Latinos here are "Mexican". So much for Latino solidarity. My wife is 100% Colombian but she always maintains good relations with Mexicans and Mexican-Americans.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 20, 2006, 09:01:

Yea Tinto.... Even they will admit they are short. Funny. It reminds me of something. In this country, I wear a 10.5 shoe size, which is fairly standard. In Mexico, I wear a 29.5 or a 30. The only problem is you can't find that size to easily. Many stores stop at 29, and rarely do you see a 29.5. You will hardly ever,,,,if ever find a 30. All 5 feet 8 inches of me feels like a giant when I go to Mexico. Here in the US, I am average height or less.

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 09:24:

I like Mexican culture I have a collection of Mariachi CD's and I have Diego Rivera prints all over my wall. I have read every Octavio Paz novel and I really enjoy Mexican cinema. My vocabulary is even peppered with words like "chiripiorca" and "chambear" and "pinche". Just don't ask me to listen to KumbiaMuffin.

I don't care if people lump me with the Mexicans, or the Cubans. AT the end of the day, it is what I am not what people think I am that matters.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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elmodefoque says on Oct 20, 2006, 09:32:

mira colombiche, next time in NYC, te invito a Gonzales and Gonzales or Hot Cab in the village , i'll even buy you one of those $15 margaritas, you get to keep the glass.
te quiero ver bien borracha, just to see what happens.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 09:36:

I love Margaritas and... anything that involves a lemon and salt mix. Sometimes I will cut a lemon in half cover it up in salt and eat it. The only people I've ever seen doing this colombians.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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webmanco says on Oct 20, 2006, 09:40:

I don't have anything against mexicans or any nationality for that matter, I could have something against those who believe we colombians don't like Mexicans.

Nowdays in Colombia there is a soap opera called la Hija del Mariachi, a coproduccion of Colombia and Mexico.

And there is still another soap opera colombian-mexican, which name I don't remember.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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tejasmarcos says on Oct 20, 2006, 10:24:

austin, texas rocks my friend. it is the only place to live in texas. go down to barton springs and chow down at the green mesquite! that town has loads of great food. i bet there is atleast 1 good colombian joint, you just have to find it.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 10:55:

soap-opera's? Yeah Austin is cool sometimes but I miss the Latin Community.
You can't tell me among all these Tejanos you get the same feeling you do in Miami's...right?

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Qubo says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:00:

Gonzalez Gonzalez plays live Salsa on Saturdays..That line is always long..Elmodefoque, I went to the Remy Lounge and was disappointed..Colombiche, if you are a salsera this place is a must visit..the food sucks though..

Mexicans at my job don't look and appear like the ones we all see migrating to the USA even have a different accent. Almost like they come from another mejico. Unfortunately every group gets picked on and mexicans are the victims and haitians in south florida. Can't we all just get along..Colombiche, you forgot to mention Carlos Fuentes..

paz

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Monpirri says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:02:

Viva la raza! Viva Mexico lindo! Gomezman5, colombiche, webmanco, you and the rest of our mexicans friends here.
Utopiacowboy, did you go the cuban picnic this past weekend? I liked their publicity, did you see it?

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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goin_south says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:22:

It's not my comment, but what I hear from other hispanics "because just about all other hispanics put the Mexicans at the bottom of the totem poll"

I said, I have never understood it; I guess it is only that we all tend to be somewhat territorial. From the first time I dated a Puerto Rican chica, I thought that all latinos should 'hang together' in a common cause.

Ciao! Gustav.

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:28:

Hey...you know Somos Latinos. And in this country, as UC alluded to, the Gringos think we are all "Mexicans" or "Spanish People".

Funny thing....more that I think about it. I NEVER, I mean NEVER, hear Mexicans say a negative word about the PRs or the Colombians. I wish to reverse were true. I listen to the PR's get angry all the time when they are called Mexicans.

I think it has something to do with being "number one". I remember when McDonalds (I'm that old) had become the unequivocal hamburger giant, everyone found every reason in the world to attack these guys for being so sucessfull. Today, and for the last couple of years, Walmart is the one to hate. They get attacked for everything under the sun. And yet, they don't do anything that other companies don't do. Yet, while "Big Box" companies have come and gone, they have grown around the world like no other company in the history of the US. Still, it took over 10 years for them to finally win in their Public Relations campaign to convince them to allow them to open one store in the City of Chicago.

When you are on top, or you are number one, everyone finds fault in what you do, and how you conduct your affairs.

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Qubo says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:33:

"From the first time I

"From the first time I dated a Puerto Rican chica, I thought that all latinos should 'hang together' in a common cause."

This comment is a typical gringo comment, no disrespect intended. A mexican and puerto rican absolutely have nothing in common besides both of them speak spanish which is very very different. I mean just because all of them speak the same language doesn't mean they are the same. There is no such thing as "Latino" the roman empire doesn't exist anymore. It's like saying brits,canucks,american,jamaicans, indians,english speaking africans should hang together. When people refer to me as latino I kindly tell them I don't speak latin.

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goin_south says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:33:

the reason why is this: (I don't care for the Mexican culture so much, as well? Why is that?)

I lived in San Diego, as a kid, three times. And, my first and greatest impression of anything mexican or hispanic was TIJUANA. Very dirty place. Smelly. Scary. Everyone saying: 'Dont drink the water, don't eat the food.' As a kid, you are thinking: Then why are you bringing me to this crazy place? Oh! For the cheap leather goods and pottery. But, everyone coming from the midwest to visit you in San Diego always wanted to go to Tijuana.

Ciao! Gustav.

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:42:

orale chihuaha! Y que esta mier-coles de idioma que hablan ! Intelligente?
Mila palan de mesclal la lengua guajila con el veldadero espanol y de plonto todos podemos hablal. Como que algien se les olvido a ensenal el plopio espanol a mexicanz o que? Y que le pasa a bastante Domicanz or Puelto Licanz , cLeo que les olvidalon que el espanol no sel chino polque les falta mucho la r! . "Elle con elle figallo!" WHahahaha

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:50:

Monpirri I am not mexican, I am a pure paisa, who looks paisa, eats arepa for breakfast and sounds like a montanera, PM me your number I will give leave you a message on your voicemail so you can hear my accent LOL. I just don't believe in wasting my energy with petty regional disputes, big freaking deal. At the end of the day Colombia and Mexico are both third world countries suffering from very similar social ailments but relying on their zest for life to keep going forward. We have very distinct identities, but a few underlying values are similar.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:54:

Gomezman I still question what you mean by being "on top"? If we were to talk about a latin american nationality that has been the most successful in the US I would use the cubans as an example. Sure there are less cubans than Mexicans, but they have higher educational levels, per capita income and a heck of a lot more political power as well.
In Canada it is actually colombians who own most latino businesses and influence the local latin media the most. I don't think we are the most numerous though, I think there are more Ecuadoreans, Salvadoreans and Chileans than Colombians, we just happen to have las pilas puestas.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Qubo says on Oct 20, 2006, 11:59:

Colobiche I have to agree with you that petty regionalism is ridiculous sense people view both countries as 3rd world. Gosh I hate that word so condescending.. cubans are indeed a strong force to be reckon with politically and Puerto Ricans have done alot of progress as well. To me cubans cheated because they get so much help when they come here that in one year they are doing better than americans living here and puerto ricans don't really count either; they have that blue passport and enjoy the social service in place on the island.

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Monpirri says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:05:

I do not know where are you from? It does not matter, we all who speak spanish are the same, many things in common!
We are one, la raza, and I say it again viva MEXICO lindo!!
I wish I have right now a famous mexican slogan so I can use it along with my username.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:11:

How about "fue sin querer queriendo"....

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:12:

that's an ignorant statement ....sorry To me cubans cheated because they get so much help when they come here that in one year they are doing better than americans living here and puerto ricans don't really count either; they have that blue passport and enjoy the social service in place on the island.

Ok half right , cubans didnt "cheat" they abuse the system just like Mexicans do. The difference is instead of bringing tacos puercos, broken indian spanish that doesn't make sense. Most Cubans go to school, and have done a great job at starting many businesses. Read the story on the CEO of Coke, a cuban national that came to this country with a dollar in his pocket. Bro, get yourself a copy of Hispanic Business and you will see most successful business owners are made up of many Latin American nationalities other than Mexican. I am not saying they are bad people, just not as succesful. Why? Who knows maybe they should spend less time having 10+ kids and watching soap operas and more attention to education.

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cali373 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:16:

You know what is intersting, is that I have meat more College educated mexicans than college educated Colombians.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:26:

you must be in texas or arizona

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Qubo says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:27:

Colombian111,I agree that Colombian111,

I agree that cubans abuse the system to their benefit. I congratulate them for that. But, you can't compare them rest of immigrants coming from latin america. Many other immigrants start from -10 and build from there. Anyway, I am aware that other hispanics have made strides. BTW, alot of us are blaming the victims..the indio mejicanos..unfortunately, their government doesn't care about them and are exploiting them. They love that remesa money coming back to mejico but careless about the social status in mejico. I have mexicans at my job here. Different group and most are still living in mejico and are here on contracts. They have money..they shop at Short Hills Mall very expensive and dine in the finest places..Believe these mejicans don't look nothing like the mejicanos struggling to survive here, trying to help their family back home. I few of them speak french and italian.. I thought they were from Europe..

Anyway, I am from Brazil..well parents are from there.. and I do not like people identifying me as latino..it doesn't define me nor my culture..should we throw in french, italians, haitians, and the french, portuguese,spanish speaking africans in this latino category.. I admit for marketing purposes it is a great strategy but let's get real..Latino isn't an ethnic group nor a race..

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Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:32:

On this side of the border most of the college educated latinos I meet are Argentinian, Chilean, Uruguayan and Colombian.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:34:

monpirri, "I wish I have right now a famous mexican slogan so I can use it along with my username"

How about "so far from God and so close to USA"?

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:36:

thanks Colombiche true with the Latino...Qubo....but latino is better than that ugly word Hispanic!

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:38:

That was hilarious, Desi. Nice one.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:44:

thanks utopia, but it wasn't me who invented it.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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lpdiver says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:46:

That would be ... cotex food, no. Anyone up for a nice juicy cotex?

a

"cook some rice!"

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:51:

si se puede! ese?

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 12:52:

or eze ? orale pues che' !

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Peter Miami says on Oct 20, 2006, 13:02:

Miami Come to Miami we have Colombian restaurants and Colombian supermarkets everywhere.

Peter Miami

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Monpirri says on Oct 20, 2006, 13:10:

Qubo Would you share with us la raza here the lyrics from Ipanema Girl. It's a nice song.

Monpirri
So far from heavens and so close to USA.

P.S. Sorry for the slight change on my new motto.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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colombian111 says on Oct 20, 2006, 13:22:

girl from ipanema Tall and tan and young and lovely
The girl from Ipanema goes walking
And when she passes, each one she passes goes - ah

When she walks, she's like a samba
That swings so cool and sways so gentle
That when she passes, each one she passes goes - ooh

(Ooh) But I watch her so sadly
How can I tell her I love her
Yes I would give my heart gladly
But each day, when she walks to the sea
She looks straight ahead, not at me

Tall, (and) tan, (and) young, (and) lovely
The girl from Ipanema goes walking
And when she passes, I smile - but she doesn't see (doesn't see)
(She just doesn't see, she never sees me,...)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 20, 2006, 14:18:

and now in Portuguese?

I didn't know you were Brasilian, Qubo, I thought all the time that you were Portuguese.

Monpirri; I suppose "heavens" in this case would mean Colombia? So, what's keeping you away?

Cheers,
Desi
«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Monpirri says on Oct 20, 2006, 14:51:

Desi If I ever return to Colombia and I am going make sure that they name a street after you name!
Nothing is keeping me away, just waiting for the airlines tickets to go down to $99.99

Monpirri
So far from heavens and so close to USA.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 20, 2006, 15:39:

ohhhh monpirri A street after me? I rather fancy the idea....
Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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goin_south says on Oct 20, 2006, 21:12:

CoTex? Or, Tony, it could be Tex-y-Co. Still, not such an appetizing ring or aroma to it.

Not latinos or latinas. huh? Don't like the word, 'hispanic'. Espanoles? Okay. I think most come from the same roots. The same race? and speak the same language? Are you saying Qubo, that these are the only things that are of commonality? That nothing else in the cultures of the spanish-speaking countries are similar? I am being honest, when I say I don't exactly understand that. But, I'm willing to try. (One other thing: I noticed while in El Centro, that they sell the same chiclets! as in Tijuana! jeje) Well... Now, let's be honest and fair. See, there must even be so much more that all have in common or similar fashion. I think there is alot more in common throughout the hispanic cultures than you are saying.

And, what's so wrong with that word? Hispanic?

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Oct 20, 2006, 22:53:

qubo I have looked at a number of books, and albums, and other things around my desk and some are even written by 'spanish speakers who look spanish or latino'. And, mostly... this group is currently referred to in print as LATINOOOO!

So, what's the problem? the word emcompasses so much more than only 'speaking latin', Much More. I think.

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Oct 20, 2006, 23:00:

Monpirri they already named a streetcar after her sister, Desire; not enough?

Ciao! Gustav.

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Monpirri says on Oct 21, 2006, 05:30:

Galecito I'm sorry, I did not know that. I'm still without satellite or TV.
I would love to ride in her streetcar, does it have a wireless laptop mounted inside, so we can continue to be connected to PBH?

Monpirri
"So far from [heavens] and so close to USA."

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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aztec says on Oct 21, 2006, 05:40:

"You know what is intersting,

You know what is intersting, is that I have meat more College educated mexicans than college educated Colombians."
By cali373

Where pray tell did you meet a college educated Mexican. There are none in this part of the country. On the other hand, we have here many Colombian college graduates. In fact there are several doctorates in the family alone! And, the degrees are from all over not just in Colombia.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 06:07:

unwittingly? galecito was closer to the truth than he imagined. "Desideria" is just the latinized form of "Desirée" as in "Desirée Clancy".

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 07:56:

no colombians in texas? monpirri claims to be from colombia. UTC claims to be married to a colombiana. and, rumor has it there is an evergrowing population of Colombian blow-up dolls in them thar rolling hills.

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 11:12:

Mario claims that there is a good pure Colombian restaurant in Houston, 'El Pueblito'.

Ciao! Gustav.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 12:17:

Desi i heard the same slogan but it said "AY Mexico lindo tan lejos del cielo pero tan cerca de los Estados Unidos"

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 12:40:

The quote is from Porfirio Diaz, a president of Mexico in the late nineteenth century.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 12:57:

Yes, that's right That was Porfirio Diaz. The version I read somewhere (in my Latin American History 101 perhaps)was "tan lejos de Dios" but if course, it could've been "cielo" also. Sometimes words get changed in translating them back and forth.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Plato says on Oct 21, 2006, 13:41:

Just read the bit about Mexicans. They're hardworking people and have big hearts. Sure, they like to party and drink, and sometimes get into scuffles - but what Latino doesn't do the same? I respect these people very much for what they have gone through, and for what they go through now. They were here before the USA anyway.

Regards,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 14:06:

Does it really matter any more? Who was here first?
No.
People have been migrating since time began in the Garden of Mesopotamia, to where ever it seemed a better life, or maybe just out of curiosity, or boredom. and they will likely continue. and, they have fought and scuffled about who can go and be where, many times covered in the name of religion, to make it seem of greater virtue. Does it really matter who was here first? no. It matters who is here now, and who is coming or wants to come, and who doesn't want them here and why. (Now, that last line was fotter for a whole other page or two, for some.)
This whole idea of immigration and aliens has become so complicated because of one simple constant in human nature, same idea as why the Colombianos have gotten a bad rap about their loyalty/fidelity - justified or not - on pbh:
THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER...
(Did I say, 'La pasto es mas verde en otro lado...?')

Ciao! Gustav.

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Plato says on Oct 21, 2006, 14:26:

It's relevant when it comes to discussing Mexicans - they were here first before the USA unlike other Latin groups. California, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, etc. - doesn't sound like New York, Virginia, or Pennsylvania, etc. right? My point is, and I didn't do a good job of conveying it apparently, *irony*. Mexicans are the largest Latino group in America, and Latinos in general are the largest minority group. There is absolutely no need to have disdain for Mexicans given their involvement in US history.

Regards,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 15:19:

as monpirri has said, or meant: they were here first, because they were the closest.

my point is that people will continue to migrate forevermore, just as they always have, no matter, whether mexican or pakistani, or colombian, or estados unidenese, to where ever they think they might have a 'more comfortable life' or 'more adventurous life', or 'more economical life', or 'greater opporunity to live life'.

Ciao! Gustav.

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Plato says on Oct 21, 2006, 15:42:

Galecito - agreed.

Regards,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 15:49:

Kentucky is full of Mexican too, I went to a restaurant called La Lupita in Lexington, WOW what a lovely food and so cheap.... those Mexican know how to cook

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 15:54:

It wasn't too spicy for you, Kat? There are only a few Mexican dishes that my wife can eat. I'd eat Tex-Mex every day.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:21:

no way UC it was lovely, i could eat there every day, only that would've been good for my waistline jejeje.

But when i was in lexingtom i could see they though i was different from them, they kept staring at me. I went to a MC Donald and this Mexican waiter came and look at me, then he went inside the counter and I don't know what he told the other people mexican too and some came out and stare at me, it was embarrasing!!! my sister told me she noticed how much they stare at me. and the girl in the check out told me I spoke beautiful english maybe was "British Accent"

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:28:

UTC...she is naive, eh? Maybe they were staring for other reasons. Not because she is Colombian. Maybe something was hanging out, and...Lexington, Ky? Jus because you abbreviate the name of their state 'KY' doesn't mean they are kinky liberals or anything. jeje

Ciao! Gustav.

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:31:

Tienes razon. My wife gets plenty of stares. Usually because the fibers in her jeans are threatening to burst, her displayed cleavage is mesmerizing or her skirt is so short she can't bend over.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:33:

Sorry dear but one thing I never wear tight clothes and nothing was hanging around not even my bag, they know quality when they see one ;)

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:41:

You never wear tight clothes? This has got to be a first for a COlombiana.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:44:

maybe i am a dress woman I love dresses,and skirts but knee lenght no mini skirts.

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 16:55:

no meenee skirts?? common kat; look at your photo. you're flashin the whole world with those silky smooth Colombian thighs. that's what they were looking at in Lexington. Why were you embarrassed? Most Colombians I know, are proud as hell.

Ciao! Gustav.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:00:

I was sitting down habanerito, galecito OR martian etc, the skirt lifted up a bit when i sat down!! you pervert!! it was near my kness that skirt.. MEN!!!

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:06:

Kat1 U R a green meanie tonight. I am Only bored here and stuck because it is raining cats and dogs and can't even make a run for the car. A litter, not a litre, I think just fell through my roof.

Ciao! Gustav.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:16:

Damm pity it wasn't a thunderbolt !!

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goin_south says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:25:

no creo many colombianas in Kentucky, either, cuz people in kentucky wouldn't put up with the damn hot-fire attitude, and all those exclamation points.

The clairvoyant didn't meet your needs tonight. I think you need to go let out some aggressions on some muslim terrorist there in GB tonight. Maybe we just send you down to Iraq. Get the war over with. Tonight. I think you got it within. I never seen you this mean. I'm afraid to ask, 'que pasa'? for fear it is improper spanish. ;)

Ciao! Gustav.

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:30:

She can take out her aggressions on me. Mis nalgas son tuyos, mi vida!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:30:

what Iraq have to do with me? I am never mean, dear you're being to sensible tonite. I never fear anything!!!! unless a big overdraw in the bank :(

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:33:

that mean I can kick your does it mean that I can kick your ass UC? :)

galecito can u please stop changing you handle name!!!

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:39:

Azóteme, mi querida. Soy un mal muchacho y necesito un castigo.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:41:

you need to be spank UC :)
you need to be spank UC :)

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 21, 2006, 17:44:

Damelo duro, mi amor!
Damelo duro, mi amor!

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Lincoln says on Oct 23, 2006, 06:12:

Colombians in Austin There are actually three restaurants that serve Colombian food, maybe more. The three that I know of are Dona Emilias and Mi Colombia (both downtown, owned by the same Colombian family--Dona Emilias is more upscale) and Fajita Warehouse (620 near Lakeline Mall). Fajita Warehouse serves excellent Mexican food. The restaurant is managed by a Colombian team, very friendly folks. They also prepare excellent Colombian food on occasion and host Colombian get-togethers. Stop by and talk to the manager. Delicious! The chef prepares fabulous Colombian food, as well as European, American and Mexican food. There is a Colombian association in Austin, colombianosenaustin.org. The Colombian Consulate will make a consular visit in Austin on October 28, Woodward Hotel, 9-2, more info call 713/527-8919 or 713/527-9093. Stop by and talk to Colombians who live in Austin, there are generally association members there helping out. Have fun! There is actually quite a bit of "Colombian" activity in Austin.

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Qubo says on Oct 23, 2006, 08:14:

Desideria,I thought you Desideria,

I thought you knew that already. I think I've mentioned that in a previous post a while back. Although I was born in the USA, my roots are deeply embedded in Brasil. To be precise the NE "Bahia". BTW, did you like the pictures. I really wanted you to see them since I felt you really came thru with all your information. VEry helpful.

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colombian111 says on Oct 23, 2006, 09:23:

hispanic sounds like a spic no more to it

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 23, 2006, 09:30:

Qubo, just sloppy reading from my part; I had an idea that you were Portuguese, sorry. I LOVED your Cali pictures, made me feel like I was there again, not here in this cold drizzle of gloomy October in Sweden. I'm glad you found my few Cali tips helpful. Most of all, I'm glad you had such a great time in Cali!

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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adrimm says on Oct 23, 2006, 11:02:

Galecito: Differences between Latin Cultures Colonisation througout much of Latin America ran ahead of North American colonisation (especially the western part of North America) Ie. Boston became a colony in 1692, and Cartagena (the colony) was founded in 1533.

Since inter-regional transportaton and communication only became easy in the 20th century, it means that there was more time for regional cultures to develop. _Look at the geography - it can be quite isolating. This accounts for some of the differences between latin american countries. Additionally, there seems to have been more integration of native indigenous cultures in some latin american countries (albeit at varying levels). The native cultures would have been distinctive too, and this brings some more regional differences into the mix.

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goin_south says on Oct 23, 2006, 13:36:

hispanic sounds like a spic? okay, then how 'bout... de Hispania?

"No hay tal cosa, como ' español perfecto '." __Senora Alta Vista

Ciao! Gustav.

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billyb says on Oct 23, 2006, 13:54:

Adrimm, you are correct... but not just about differnces between countries, look at the differences between the regions in Colombia itself.

BillyB

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adrimm says on Oct 23, 2006, 14:58:

Exactly. Whereas in contrast much of the settlement in areas like western canada and the US didn't occur until *after* transportation became easier - ie. railway in Canada, ergo less of a separation, and less time to develop regional cultures and identity.

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daniaman says on Dec 7, 2006, 05:33:

leather backpacks i recieved a leather backpack years ago as a gift purchased in cali...the brand name is JUGAR....does anyone know where i can get another one in bogota...i have been to the area where there are alot of leather shops in bogota but no one seemed to know the brand...thanks daniel

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aztec says on Dec 7, 2006, 06:24:

Not me! You know what is intersting,

You know what is intersting, is that I have meat more College educated mexicans than college educated Colombians.
By cali373

There are more college educated doctorates in my Colombian wife's family than I have ever met of Mexican college graduates any where! Maybe I should visit California or Texas more often.

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