Nice guy and Colombian Girls

john_stark says on Oct 27, 2007, 06:25:

They'll treat you like a cow to be milked.

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dwmte7 says on Oct 27, 2007, 06:33:

common, john....you're not giving this poor chap a chance. a few bumps and bruises will strengthen his posture.

mj...women are women the world over. i'll share what my grandpa shared with me, when he asked, "son, do you know the difference between 'pussy' and 'cunt'?" at about 13-14 i didn't even know if i was familiar with the words. grandpa went on to explain, ".....well, son, a pussy, is that warm, moist beauty that every man loves; and a cunt is the one who owns it. no exceptions"

remember, friend, forwarned is forarmed.

dwmte

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kalder says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:02:

You can afford to be 'nice, sweet, easy going, considerate, and kind'. As long as you make it clear that you won't tolerate anyone expoiting that.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Bill Turley says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:10:

I have found in my limited experience that the Colombiana who like the Macho guy choose Colombians the others who like nice guys, like us

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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robi666 says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:15:

Get real, why do women have to choose if they can have both? This should be always the first question in a gringo's mind...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Medellin Traveler says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:22:

mj1968,

You sound like a pushover to me. If you have to ask such a question, you're in trouble already. If you're interested in meeting Colombian women, DO NOT treat them like queens, treat them as if you were a Colombian MAN.

Their going to eat you alive!

dwmte7,
Your comments does not explain anything about women. In fact there is a difference with women around the world. In the US we have been brainwashed into thinking that the women have all the power, we have forgotten that we are MEN, otherwise know as the BOSS!!

I learned many interesting lessons in Colombia regarding how to act like a MAN. All good MEN must travel to Colombia and take lessons from the locals. T

he MEN in American have lost their freakin' backbone.

If you are a MAN, act like a MAN!

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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robi666 says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:31:

Jesus, and I thought reading your post that you were a romantic, innocent, idealist guy...
Eso es, M_T!

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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webmanco says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:37:

"In the US we have been brainwashed into thinking that the women have all the power"

In Colombia you will learn that it is true.

:-)

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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sylvester says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:48:

From what you described above, you will be an easy mark. You will be the next walking ATM machine. You will become very familiar with Western Union as you will receive never ending requests for money for one crisis or another.

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dwmte7 says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:50:

well, MT...the only diffferences i've seen in women--intrensic--around this planet, and i've worked all over central and north africa, through out the middle east, india, europe and mexico central america and colombia, is their tongue and clothes and social decor. outside of these regional hallmarks. they're women. they[re strong, tend to control their home environment and their men (within their environment) and dominate over their children. if they didn't, children would have mother's in name only.

as for here in the us. where social taboos have over the last 40-50 years become license, and women have discovered social freedoms previously unheard of they have chosen to take those freedoms to advantage...in many cases over men...if they can. didn't work to well with me as i did/do what i want, when i want, with whom i want. and that liberty--often stupidity--cost me many a divorce...still, i wasn't going to let some woman reign over me. now, it's a bit different...you might say i behave myself (age) and keep the slate clean. but that's a practical choice which i've made since i married in the church. but women, common, MT they're women. in my post above i wasn't necessarily describing women, rather one of their more notable parts. and as a dear friend commented, ".....if they didn't have pussy, there'ld be a bounty on em." thus he.

dwmte

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dwmte7 says on Oct 27, 2007, 07:54:

aside...

mt...do you know gomezman 5, marcos gomez. he's an attorney in chicago. i think i'm right that you're in chicago? anyway, marcos is a nice guy and a friend of mine. you should get to know him.
dw

dwmte

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mj1968 says on Oct 27, 2007, 08:23:

I can agree with MT in that you can't let them take advantage of you. I was just trying to get a feel for how many sincere types one might expect to meet and keep.

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Rob77 says on Oct 27, 2007, 08:26:

mj, don't let the warnings scare you. Like in any country there are all types of women here. Not all women are looking to take advantage and not all want the macho type. I can't tell you how many women have told me they are sick of Colombian macho men.

This may not be popular advice here, but, be yourself. Don't try to be someone else, because eventually the woman who fell for your macho act will be disappointed to find the nice guy in you. I assure you there are women who will appreciate you being a nice guy, if you knwo where to look, and what kind of women to avoid.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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gringolondinense says on Oct 27, 2007, 08:37:

Many people mistake kindness to be weakness. Then they get surprised when Mr Kind reveals Mr FukYou.

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Rob77 says on Oct 27, 2007, 08:40:

"Many people mistake kindness to be weakness. Then they get surprised when Mr Kind reveals Mr FukYou."

I'm a nice guy by nature, until someone fux with me!

(I relate well to the Incredible Hulk's personality!)

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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ColombianoGringo says on Oct 27, 2007, 08:49:

You can be nice and considerate, but don't let women anywhere push you around. You don't have to be an asshole, but you have to stand your ground when necessary. Women will test your limits and how you react will determine whether or not they respect you. While some Colombian women may complain about machismo, they don't want some wimpy, overly sensitive pushover either.

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Morrongo says on Oct 27, 2007, 09:25:

Don't worry there are lots of room for nice guys in Colombia.Your say your a nice guy,but what type of women are you looking for?if you are going to go to gringo bars and haunts,all you are going to meet are Morrongas and there over inflated prices created by foreign sex tourists,these will not care less if you are Macho or signed a pact with Satin as long as you are packing dollars.

The vast majority of Colombian woman, will like you being non macho, but not a push over either.The idea that a foreigner can come to Colombia and every woman are going to be falling at your feet is crap.If you want to meet decent woman that don't work in the sex trade you will have to treat them with respect and kindness,they will be interested that you are foreigner but that's not going to put in bed together on the first date(well sometimes).

My advise...Morrongo the Morrongas and treat the others with respect and kindness and with the truth,this includes your non macho style.You will have more Colombian amigas than you can imagine .Be prepared to say No often,this is not Macho,just plan common sense.

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Chelesupercono says on Oct 27, 2007, 09:32:

Time for the GOLDEN RULES:

1.) Kindness is weakness
2.) No good deed goes unpunished

You can be nice but always remember......a little carrot and a lot of the stick and they will respect you.....a little

If you fail to heed this advice, then bend over because you are FOKED!!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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RonDubya says on Oct 27, 2007, 12:27:

Ah, yes - love. It's that human relationship where the man hopes the woman never changes, but she does; and the woman hopes the man changes, but he doesn't.

I agree, women are women - and the same for men. Whatever you do and whoever you fall in love with - wait until you see those changes starting before you make any promises or commitments.

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

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john_stark says on Oct 27, 2007, 12:31:

Women are like horses. You've got to control them with a firm hand and make them think it's their idea. If you're a wuss they'll walk all over you.

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Saltador says on Oct 27, 2007, 13:25:

Two of my favorites:
Women give sex to get love. Men give love to get sex.
And even better:
A woman wants one man to satisfy her every need. A man wants every woman to satisfy his one need.

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Morrongo says on Oct 27, 2007, 13:54:

Sorry MT what a load of twoddle. If you want to behave like a Colombian Man,your welcome.Done that in the dark ages,two cell phones on the go..lying through my teeth,,juggling dates,lying to your so called friends because you want to get laid elsewhere.Or keeping your women folk down where you want them.Do as I say,not as I do stuff.Not for me pal.You can have as many female friends you want if you are kind,honest and non macho.Just a case of weeding out the morrongas and keeping the friends you like and genuinely like you.

Kindness is only a weakness in company that's going to take advantage of it .If people are so afraid of being kind,perhaps they ought to choose better chicas.

This Man Macho b?llocks is not for me

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Medellin Traveler says on Oct 27, 2007, 14:19:

Sorry Morrongo,
When I said Colombian MAN, I really meant MAN. But since were are on a site dedicated to Colombia, I wrote Colombian MAN, not to be confused with a Player, that is a whole completely different story. I met many Colombian MEN who are married to the women they love, the mother of their children, but they did not act like a-holes, or worse... American men.

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 27, 2007, 14:45:

I know a lot of Colombian men taht appreciate what they have at home....a sweet. loving wife and mother of their children, a full-time partner in the enterprise of life, an equal companion and support in every endeavour the team-family takes on.

I also know a lot of Colombian women who would appreciate a man with more humane values, a man who is not bristling with testosterone but rather with humanity, a nice guy, a lover, a friend, a soul mate.

Colombia is not that different from other places in the world; there's diversity and variation, men and women that have a wide range of expectations and wishes.

A cada cual, su media naranja.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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eywed says on Oct 27, 2007, 15:22:

Nice guy + Rich guy= Colombian Girl.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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Morrongo says on Oct 27, 2007, 15:55:

Thanks MT ..Point taken...of course there are many Colombian Men that appreciate their families and never stray....but there are as many Players as you put it.....Colombian or foreigners who choose this style as their Macho Man impressions.
You can be kind and caring..depending on the company you keep.....Morrongo the Morrongas and treat the others with respect..the difficult part is the learning curve to spot the difference...
.

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Saltador says on Oct 27, 2007, 21:15:

Actually that guy in the photo doesn't fit the stereotype. He's got hair and he doesn't look that old. Plus we've all got real big belt buckles.

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morphus says on Oct 27, 2007, 21:26:

HAAAAAA! Gringos will never be nothing more than a walking ATM in Colombia.

Macho? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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morphus says on Oct 27, 2007, 21:26:

HAAAAAA! Gringos will never be nothing more than a walking ATM in Colombia.

Macho? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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mj1968 says on Oct 27, 2007, 23:36:

Yeah, I think love is a game the world over. You can play the game and score a fair-weather lover for a while, but finding a soul mate takes luck anywhere. Be patient, and don't be a fool and you can find someone like yourself anywhere. :)

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droble77 says on Oct 27, 2007, 23:47:

mj1968, here is some practical advice as opposed to the usual boring platitudes posted above:

when your colombiana amiga asks for regalos [and she WILL ask for them sooner or later, likely sooner haha ;) ], be sure you're buying the gift because you really want to and not because you feel like you have to and make sure she KNOWS that! Even better: as soon as she asks, lay the rules down and set expectations: she's not going to get more than ONE gift from you, and it shouldn't be over 60K COP.

I have no problem spending money on dates, it's just this regalo business that I find incredibly annoying. I SLAMMED the phone on one chica regarding this issue because she kept on about it and I wasn't about to waste my valuable time arguing over such nonsense. The funny part was that we were making out like crazy the following night at Andres Carne de Res like nothing happened. :)

Now Andres is a pricey venue, but like I said I have no problem paying whatever, when the girl is my date and accompanying me and paying attention to me and treating me good. Believe me, I'm not poor or stingy with my money. I work very hard 48 weeks of the year and when I'm on vacation, I like to enjoy the good things in life. What I don't like is buying stupid gifts which she will then show off to her female friends and other male amigos, boyfriends, ex-boyfriends, and so on. I have little tolerance for such nonsense. Let the estrata 6 colombianos with their fancy cars and cellphones buy them the expensive gifts!

Perfect example: that same girl I made out with showed me her broken MP3 player and went on and on about all the problems she's had trying to fix it. I think she wanted me to pay for a new one or a repair. Of course, I didn't say anything and yep you guessed it, the player was from some rich colombiano who may or may not have gotten into her pants with that gift. I'm not sure, and quite frankly, I don't care, as long as it's not my money. . . ;)

Of course, there are some really nice ladies that would never ask for a regalo, I consider myself lucky to have found some of them, and to have gained their friendship.

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deathnova says on Oct 28, 2007, 00:23:

I'm incredibly kind to my Colombiana and she seems to appreciate it; she rarely asks for anything.

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Saltador says on Oct 28, 2007, 07:34:

Morphus,
Cmon, man, you really should have a higher opinion of yourself :-)

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morphus says on Oct 28, 2007, 08:44:

I do. I'm in a class by myself. I was just thinking about you guys :)

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Rob77 says on Oct 28, 2007, 08:44:

I read some of these posts and ask myself, where you guys are meeting this type of women. Maybe you meet them in bars and clubs which I don't frequent. I am curious to know where and what strata they are from.

I have been in and out of Colombia for a couple decades now, I have NEVER met a Colombian woman who asked for a gift or money. And if they ever did, that would be the last time I spent time with them. There are not different standards for Colombia and the states. If a woman ever asked for a gift from me in the states, she would never hear from me again.

Gifts should be considered optional and inspired, not mandatory, unless you are freakin desperate for female attention. In that case, you might as well consider yourself buying the companionship.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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ducaticole says on Oct 28, 2007, 08:59:

I've only been here for three weeks and these posts surprise me too.

One of my amigas who I hang out with quite a bit probably pays for me more than I pay for her and she does not have a lot of money either. She always says that she has a job and makes her own money and loves being independent.

Last night, I was out with friends, they paid for the transmil ride out and the bottle of Aguardiente and then argued with me when I insisted on paying for the 5800 peso taxi ride home.

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CaptainHowdy says on Oct 28, 2007, 18:34:

This says it all:

FIVE RULES FOR MEN TO FOLLOW TO A HAPPY LIFE:

1. It's important to have a woman, who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job.

2. It's important to have a woman, who can make you laugh.

3. It's important to have a woman, who you can trust and who doesn't lie to you.

4. It's important to have a woman, who is good in bed and who likes to be with you.

5. It's very, very important that these four women do not know each other.

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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robi666 says on Oct 28, 2007, 18:39:

LOL... maybe we can say that 1-3 and 2-4 are the same woman... you know, to make things more viable. :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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eywed says on Oct 28, 2007, 18:42:

Capt your right on the money

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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CaptainHowdy says on Oct 28, 2007, 19:13:

Aw, c'mon, Robi...push the envelope...Don't be bashful!!! :)

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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manINred says on Oct 28, 2007, 19:22:

Oh for goodness sakes. I hate these types of threads. Every person has had their individual experiences which will lead them to different conclusions. The reason for this is simple:

Each woman (like each man) is different from the next! So it depends upon who you meet.

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eywed says on Oct 28, 2007, 19:41:

manlNerd- But we must beat that dead horse over and over and over! Why you ask? I dont know but ( excuse me a minute I need to beat another dead horse) ect ect ect.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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gold digger says on Oct 28, 2007, 21:47:

I have found that just showing the girl respect, you'll have her in the sac in no time.

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morphus says on Oct 29, 2007, 04:33:

Or just buy a $100,000 apartment in Colombia and throw a lot of money around like most gringos are doing.

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Bam Bam says on Oct 29, 2007, 16:24:

i have had more success with fist in the pink, foot in the stink myself

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Man Tequila says on Oct 29, 2007, 17:10:

Yeah, but Pebbles was hard core.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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SamGompers says on Oct 30, 2007, 05:33:

White, barely-spanish speaking, American "nice guy" = ticket out of Colombia and into the land of milk 'n honey, three bedroom ranch house, new car, cable t.v., etc.

One of my funniest memories: ex-novia and I are sitting on the beach at El Rodadero with her single girlfriend. Lazy Sat. afternoon, watching the beachgoers wander by. Along comes a slightly overweight, very pale-skinned guy in his 50s wearing a U.S.C. tank top. Friend turns to girlfriend with a faint grin, motions to U.S.C. dude walking by and mutters: "Pollo a la plancha." They both crack up.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 25, 2008, 04:22:

man, them women will chew you up and spit you out!
you'll have MARRANO written on your forehead

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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El Polo says on Jun 25, 2008, 06:40:

"Will Colombian women treat me like a push over"

Im not the most profound modefoque, but I suggest you change that way of thinking, you will only get taking advantage of if you let em, a good deal of gold diggers blow their cover within the first week or so, at that point it easier to "mandarla al carajo", since there are no feelings involved, she wants 50 mil for a fokin taxi? mandala a carajo quick! Just let em know you not a push over or a "pendejo" if she trys to push your buttons. Most of the times they just want to know how much they can get away with. of course this is not the case for everyone but this is how I would handle myself in your situation.
Con Mucho Gusto!

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