Newbie in Cali---Medellin Bashing

goin_south says on Apr 9, 2007, 20:44:

Morphus... We know your pain;
we feel your pain.

Where do we go from here?

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 9, 2007, 21:13:

I'll take the Paisas over the Calenas any day. OTOH, if she's built like a brick sh*thouse who cares where she's from!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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wcarmack says on Apr 10, 2007, 01:32:

OK, I need enlightened
What is the definition of a Paisa?
A country girl?

Not that it matters that much being I am retiring in Colombia and bringing my wife. Still, one needs to know these things.

I been learning lots here. Last weeks word that entered my vocabulary was brujeria. Nice word - lots of uses for that one.

Thanks in advance,

Woody

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quindioman says on Apr 10, 2007, 02:33:

Paisa = Anyone from the departamento de Antioquia (capital Medellin)....people from Viejo Antioquia (Caldas, Risaralda and Quindio are considered Paisas too)...they have a distinct dialect which most people can tell...the famous Paisa accent.

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MacGringo says on Apr 10, 2007, 04:28:

I've spoken with a few girls from Manizales who all referred to themselves as Paisas and spoke very proudly of it.

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quindioman says on Apr 10, 2007, 04:32:

Could be, although I have it from various sources that the Paisa thing really relates to all people from Viejo Antioquia in that the underlying common denominator is the accent...I'm from Armenia but everytime I open my mouth people ask me if I'm Paisa...I'll tell them I'm from Armenia and they'll just nod their head. Strictly speaking people from Armenia are know as Cuyabros...personally I have more of an affinity with Cali than with Medellin (bar the accent) and couldn't give a Castlemaine XXXX if I'm considered Paisa or not.

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jaramillo says on Apr 10, 2007, 06:38:

Old Caldas used to be part of Antioquia, and it was populated by paisas who emigrated there from towns like Sonsón, Rionegro, La Unión, etc. Caldas split between three small new provinces in the 60's, if I remember correctly: Quindio (Armenia), Risaralda (Pereira), and Caldas (Manizales). They all have paisa blood, but the people from Manizales think they are more paisa than the paisas! Sort of like Ulster Brits. I'm a Jaramillo Jaramillo, of the Jaramillos from Sonsón (although born in Medallo). I'm 110% Paisa. Pride doesn't even come into it. It is our very essence. Just came back from Medellin, and girls there don't seem to be getting uglier...

Interestingly, Paisas ARE whiter. There is a recent interesting article in PNAS in which scientists at the Universidad de Antioquia demonstrated a high paisa DNA sequence homology to european caucasians. The interesting wrinkle is that the mitochondrial DNA, which traces the maternal lineage, showed homologies to native american sequences. In other words, we have a strong caucasian component but many of our gret-great-great-grandmothers were the indian women that the spanish impregnated. BTW, the metropolitan population of Medellin was excluded from the study, for obvious reasons having to do with the intermixing that characterizes large metropolitan areas.

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billyb says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:01:

Jaramillo is correct... Viejo Caldas, which now is made up of the 3 departments he mentioned were populated during the mid to late 19th century in what was called the "colonization Antioqueña" by people from the towns Jaramillo named that were escaping the ongoing violence (shocker) there. Jup, QMan, you're a Paisa.

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:03:

I am a Jaramillo also... maybe one of you is my daddy jajaja

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billyb says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:07:

Another happy family reunion... brough to you by PBH...;)

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elmodefoque says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:18:

You guys are making it too damn difficult.
People from Bogotá, Cali, Medellin, Pasto, Pereria, etc. are all CACHACOS! Most with very light skin and short. Hence Uribe
I’ll make it easier, If you look around and see a fokin mountain you’re arepita, con chocolatico, y huevito eating CACHACO.
People from Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta, Monteria, Riohacha, Valledupar etc. are all COSTÑOS! Most with darker skin and taller
Let me make it easier, if you look west and see a fokin ocean then you’re a butirffara eating COSTEÑO

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:31:

Elmo I would never consider myself a Cachaco, that is straight up ROLO in my opinion. If you call a paisa a cachaco he would feel offended, its like comparing somebody from Barranquilla with someone from Buenaventura.

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elmodefoque says on Apr 10, 2007, 07:50:

I’m not putting a bad connotation on the word “cachaco” is just what we in the northern Caribbean coast call all our Colombian brothers living south of Monteria. Is too difficult to try to figure out who’s paisa, rolo, pastiso, etc. Vez a Barranquilla y te lo juro que TODOS pero TODOS te van a llamar cachaco.
We don’t mind us in the Caribbean coast being called COSTEÑO.
My ex young wife was born and raised in Medellin of costeño parents, but when she worked in Cartagena all her employees knew her as LA CACHACA.
I, call her cachaca too.
She would always tell me. Que es un cachaco? Un cachaco es el jefe del costeño.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Apr 10, 2007, 08:03:

The main reason my very young cachaca wife dumped me was because I was too damn costeño. She accused me of being lazy and stupid. That, I have no argument for.
All I wanna do is drink, dance and fornicate. Again I have no argument for that too.
She said I was gonna died poor, laying on my own chit. That bi-ch is able to see the future, she’s gotta be a fokin witch.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 10, 2007, 13:14:

It also happened to me Elmo, I was born on the coast and my parents and family are all from there, but when I was living in Bogota they used to called me COSTEÑA, that was my school nickname, and when I went to the coast to see my grandparents, my friends there called me Cachaca.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:14:

??? , but funny enough I still have my costeno accent mix with rolo, my parents still have costeno accent and in my house the costeno culture is very dominant even though we left the coast ages ago.


but i have to dissagre with elmo, no all costenos have dark skin and are taller. my dad have very light skin and he is just 5'7.and all his cousins, aunties, are very light skin and have white hair even from a very young age.

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:22:

I guess you... ... really have to live there to get these titles. To a costeño anyone from the "interior" of the country is a cachaco. If you're from outside Bogotá anyone from there is a cachaco or rolo. If you're from the "zona cafetera" which includes Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindío, then you're a paisa. Paisas are not just from Medellín but they are the ones who stand out the most. People from Pasto are Pastusos. People from Cali are Caleños. People from Chocó are chocoanos. Etc, etc, etc.

Diana

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:24:

And from Villavicencio all the way down are, Llaneros

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quindioman says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:26:

Mononoke...people from Pasto are the butt of Colombian jokes.

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:45:

Pastuso jokes are great Mandan a un soldado pastuso a hacer la guardia...

-Y le dice el capitán:Súbase al árbol a ver que ve.
-El pastuso procede y le dice: vienen como 1000
-Y el capitán le dice: ¿amigos o enemigos?;
-Y responde: ¡pues amigos!.. no ve que vienen hablando entre ellos!!!

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jaramillo says on Apr 10, 2007, 15:14:

Yeah, but they don't deserve to be such the butt of jokes Pastusos are very bright and way too decent for Paisa standards. The problemmight not be Pastuso stupidity, bu rather, Paisa viveza. It takes one to know one.

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 11, 2007, 12:06:

It's all good... ... we kid because we love.

- Por qué un pastuso lleva un flotador al estadio?
- Para no ahogarse por si de pronto hacen la ola.

XD

Diana

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Monpirri says on Apr 12, 2007, 20:12:

Jokes about Pastusos are a myth Yep, people like to joke around about the ones who are different or because they are a young minority, as in the case of Pastusos. You cannot compare industrialized countries with underdeveloped countries, on the same token, one cannot compare Medellin with Pasto. Intelligence does not reside in bigger cities.
Pastusos are not less intelligent than Paisas nor Paisas are smarter than Pastusos. We also have heard similar of jokes about the Polish, Jews, and Gallegos…

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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coffee beaner says on Apr 12, 2007, 21:01:

hmmm umm ok... I think a lot of people take post way to serious

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Monpirri says on Apr 13, 2007, 19:28:

Yeap Yep, the very same answer every time, people take post way to serious and pastusos are always the scenario for the damn jokes.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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coffee beaner says on Apr 13, 2007, 20:21:

anal problem? hey buddy, deal with it... every region in Colombia makes fun of pastusos not only paisas. Rolos and Costenos make fun of pastusos all the time during Sabados Felices.

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billyb says on Apr 13, 2007, 23:02:

Let's not get all politically correct... here, it's a fact that Pastusos are the butt of many jokes in Colombia and a joke is funny if it's funny, but most colombians (At least the slightly cultured ones) also realize that people from Pasto are also some of the most cultured and educated people in Colombia.

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goin_south says on Apr 13, 2007, 23:39:

you guys tellin Pastuso Jokes again?? If I were a gringo, I would be TERRIFIED to be making jokes about those people. You know, it's like a lil camp, down there... surrounded by Farc y ELN bad-asses. It feels like... having the Wagons in a circle and you know.. an old western.

Very Dangerous for gringos.

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Apr 13, 2007, 23:41:

It should be easy to surmise why.... Pasto is OFF THE BEATEN GRINGO TRAIL.

Where do we go from here?

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webmanco says on Apr 15, 2007, 09:33:

We Heard you

From Cuenta Huesos

Malboro stop the Hombre Malboro billboards campain in Pasto, because all of a sudden there were a lot of demand for horses.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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cali373 says on Jul 12, 2007, 12:51:

Actually REAL paisas are from Caldas, risaralda, quindio coffee region. Medellin are not real paisas but are considered paisas for most Colombians. I got this from real Colombians.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 15:49:

I don't know what "real" Colombians you've talking to, but Antioqueños are real Paisas also.

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 15:52:

Caldas, Quindio and Risaralda were populated by Paisas in the mid to late 1800's during the "Colonization Antioqueña" , that's why they all have the Paisa accent.

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goin_south says on Jul 12, 2007, 15:54:

Hey billyb, are you a real colombiano?

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 17:14:

Real enough to know what a Paisa is ;) Are you a real Cajun? Or a Carpetbagger ;)

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 17:16:

I mean being a Yankee fan and all.

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goin_south says on Jul 12, 2007, 17:19:

I'm not even a fake cajun
(now, that's a hard one to pull off, let me tell ya!)
I M A Yankee.
But, to them....I'm a Damn Yankee.
but 'carpetbaggincolombiano' sounds like a good new nickname..jeje, a Nice Ring Tuit.

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Jul 12, 2007, 17:20:

Hey, billy....where's erika been?

Where do we go from here?

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Man Tequila says on Jul 12, 2007, 18:15:

With her papacito.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 18:29:

if you use it I want royalties ;) I was wondering that myself.

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billyb says on Jul 12, 2007, 18:31:

You could also use "damn yankee".

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