New moderator

podborski says on Dec 5, 2006, 06:00:

I think it's a good choice but Desi, I know you think you have a thick skin, but I don't know if it's thick enough (yet) for this job. You might have to toughen up a bit!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 06:41:

pod, I don't know if there's anybody with a skin thick enough for the job but I've been moderating a couple other Colombia forums for some time now and it hasn't been that hard. Then again, I do have Peter and Tinto working closely with me; with two such fine gentlemen by my side I feel safe and secure:)

Cheers,
Desi

Peter,
thanks for the introduction! Cheers and enjoy your time in Colombia.


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2006, 06:43:

Desi, I warned you several days ago: "Don't sleep in, or you might get elected President"...lol.
Be careful, my intuition is keen.
No, I don't know squat about Peter except that he kicked my friend, Gringodiego, off the site a few months ago, JUS FOR TELLIN G5 TO GO F at #* HIMSELF, in three short orders. Imagine that!

IN ALL SINCERITY,... I THINK DESI WILL DO A GOOD JOB.

Being Moderator: a Thankless Job.
But, you have my confidence.
You're going to get your own spot in Wikepedia yet ;)

I hope you won't be quite as tough as Peter/Tinto! lol
And, thanks for taking upon yourself The Thankless Job.

Where do we go from here?

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juancegomez says on Dec 5, 2006, 06:49:

Congrats It'll probably seem like a bit of a thankless task at times, given some of the controversies that have happened around here (ironically enough in the Friendly Talkzone), but I'm sure that you'll do a good job.

Overall, good luck to Desi, Peter, Tinto & co.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 5, 2006, 06:56:

Wait Just A Minute!! I read in some post that Desi=G5!!!! hahahahah....just kidding! good luck, its a tough job, but someone has to do it!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:06:

You got zapped, elmo! "desi, si un malpario depronto dice que Cali es una churria bien jedionda a pecueca, maluca y peligrosa, is that gonna get deleted?"

Ok, I was already moderator when Arthur Brode published those horrible pictures of my beloved Cali amd said then that if this forum had had a female moderator his thread would alredy have been deleted and I answered him bt saying "Be not so sure about it".

I'm not here to antagonize with anybody and I will be applying pretty much the same criteria as Tinto does and it'll be Peter's rules and policies for this forum. I'm pretty sure most of the posters won't even be aware of what I've done this far here and what I'll be doing as a moderator.

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:10:

Miguel Clavo I have been sending emails to people telling them that you and I are the same people.

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aztec says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:30:

Peter.. ...Desi is an excellent choice but please don't bring any more moderatiors over from Colombian Blog!

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aztec says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:31:

Spel check! Meant "moderator".

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webmanco says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:39:

Hats off to Desi

Lo dicho a quien no le gusta el caldo se le dan dos tazas.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 07:42:

Haha, webmanco thanks, yes, right on!

Aztec, I've been a PBHer much, much longer that on Cblog.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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aztec says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:01:

Desi I have a great deal... ...of respect for your intellect and fairness. Thank you for taking on the onerous task of helping Peter maintain order in a chaotic world.

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ColombianoGringo says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:05:

Curious I recently had a reply removed on Famsearch's "Still Alive" topic. In the topic he said that he overheard his wife on the phone saying that it was "Puta Fria" in Minnesota.

I responded that she probably said "Puto Frio" and also asked an unrelated question. My reply was gone the next day. Will the mods be removing posts because of curse words?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:06:

Thank you aztec for your kind words! I shall try to live up to them.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:09:

ColombianoGringo I didn't touch that thread. I doubt that either Tinto or Peter would 've zapped you for a cussword. There might've been another reason but since I haven't read that comment I can't tell.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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webmanco says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:36:

Ha sido un puto error :) JK

still alive

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Miguel says on Dec 5, 2006, 08:43:

Desi a moderator? ¡DIOS MIO! Now that I have your attention, I like the idea. She's been a deputy on the "Sólo en español" forum for a while, and with the differences in time zones, she will be able to monitor the overnight posts made in Las Americas.

A post I read from her over two years ago was what prompted me to sign up on PBH.

¡ALERTA! Nunca dice que le gusta la camisa guayabera o habla mierda de Cali. And Desi, kat1 and I will help you spot old posters with new names. You need a little help there! :-D

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 09:12:

miguel, sure, I can appreciate any help I get and you and kat are really sharp at detecting new disguises. You're right about guayaberas and don't mess with cali too. LOL (Do you still remeber which post it was that brought you over to PBH? I'd like to frame it and hang it on the wall)

Thanks strobers. The only thing I can promise is that I'll try my best.

Miguel is right about the time zones. It's a definite advantage to have one mod in Europe and one in the Americas since this is a truly 24-hour forum.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Miguel says on Dec 5, 2006, 09:21:

Desi I don't remember exactly what post you made that caught my attention, but I know it was about the Spanish language. I am quite certain that if you can contact Dick Cheney or anyone else associated with the Bush administration, they will have it on file.

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BushLawyer says on Dec 5, 2006, 09:25:

What does the moderator do, actually? And what is exactly is the job of the moderator, if I may ask? Does the moderator decide what post gets posted etc.? I'm curious.

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ColombianoGringo says on Dec 5, 2006, 09:33:

Thanks Desi,

I wasn't saying that you had deleted my post. I was just curious about the content of my post.

Good luck as moderator. We can be a pretty unruly band of misfits around here.

CG

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:06:

BushLawyer we basically just monitor the boards and remove posts that contain personal attacks, obvious and repetetive breaches in policy and rules of this forum, delete spam and zap the trolls into oblivion. Your friendly neighbourhood watch.

No, we don't read decide which posts get posted, only which ones stay posted. We don't have previous approval of new posts here)

Cheers,
Desi



«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:19:

I feel honored; I was the first guy to get zapped by desi. gee, thanks!!!

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:22:

hey desi, una pregunta, porque las colombianas ya no me hablan?

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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arthur brode says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:23:

elmo i think G5 and i beat you to it yesterday.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:26:

damnnn!!!
damnnn!!!

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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arthur brode says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:26:

Desi would you delete an entire thread if one post within the thread does not meet your approval?

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:30:

Elmo, I was just kidding with you; see I copied and pasted your post in my answer:)

Elmo, soy moderadora no consejera sentimental. Lo siento. Talvez si no hablaras tanto de mierda, sanitarios, burras y putas las chicas se interesarian mas por ti. Que tal te fue con la Sol Searcher y la Tremenda Paisita?

Arthur, I haven't touched anything you or Gomezman have written and I was offline all day yesterday because my server was down.

Cheers,
Desi



«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:32:

Arthur no, I wouldn't, but as I said earlier I haven't deleted anything yours. Yet :)

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:42:

I think Arthur is referring to the "solo en espanol" thread. I deleted it because:



1. It implied that Colombian women could be "had" for only a box of cookies. An insulting generalization. Read the rules.



2. There were some photos and Arthur bragged about "doing" the women in the photos or their friends or something like that, presumably in exchange for the cookies.

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BushLawyer says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:49:

Thanks, Desi Thanks for the explanation!

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 10:55:

Desi, I really wanna change; I want colombianas to like me. I want 2007 to be different.
My big problem is that I grew up around guys only. My household consisted of my dad and three brothers, no women in sight and to top it off I got guys like Diomedes Diaz as my hero and mentor.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Dec 5, 2006, 11:10:

Yeah mario, but I wanna get some of that colombian hairy monster going around for free. Why am I paying for it?

Here's the problem, how could I understand colombian women when I grew up a motherless modefoque both here and in Colombia? While most kids in NYC were sitting around waiting for their mothers to come home to cook and clean, my brothers and I were wiping the blood off the floor from the vicious beating we gave each other while my dad was at work. We fought about everything, mostly about who controlled the fokin TV. If my father found out we were fighting again, we get another beating.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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arthur brode says on Dec 5, 2006, 12:28:

Tinto,with all due respect That was a misinterpretation on your part.I would never in my life imply that a Colombian woman could be "had" for a box of Cookies.Give me a break!"conquistar" does not mean "had".Maybey i should have used the word "enamorar"or"seducir"or"llegar al corazon"And yes i jokingly bragged about "doing" one of the women in the photo,but NOT in exchange for a box of Cookies....Please!! So Tinto, i conclude my post was unjustly deleted!

And Desi,if your server was down yesterday,how come you have post dated Mon,12/04/2006 like this one.......

"Arthur, I have enjoyed the pics of Cali you have posted and have said so, maybe not in so many words, but I have commented all of them."

Desi,you have never commented on any of my pics. of Cali that i posted on PBH in the past.Only the ugly ones that i recently posted.And if you did make a comment in the past,it was a sarcastic one.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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webmanco says on Dec 5, 2006, 12:34:

Protección al Gobierno Nacional y a la Embajada de Italia en Bo Elmo
Desi, I really wanna change; I want colombianas to like me. I want 2007 to be different.


Do you really want colombianas?
En verdad no podemos vivir sin ellas.



Ciudadano italiano denunció que fue maltratado por su esposa en Barranquilla



Simone Fatiga pidió a la Fiscalía 12 Local que investigue a Lía Inés Araujo por tortura, lesiones personales agravadas y violación a habitación ajena. También aseguró que lo amenazó de muerte.

Fatiga, quien muestra en su mejilla derecha y brazo izquierdo heridas, que según él fueron causadas con un vidrio por parte de su esposa bajo estado de ira, pidió protección al Gobierno Nacional y a la Embajada de Italia en Bogotá.



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...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 5, 2006, 12:41:

Arthur... my server was down from 11 a.m yesterday until 2 p.m. today, aproximately. That comment was made at 9:39 which would be 8:39 Stockholm time. I made comments on your Galería Alameda pictures, the cats in the park that I didn't like that much (I don't like that Tejada cat by Rio Cali either) and I commented on the Christmas lights figures over the river. Not all of it was sarcastic. I am not going to comment on your pictures of girls.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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jfsawatzky says on Dec 5, 2006, 15:19:

OH no... Desi as a moderator... groan.... jejejejejej
Good luck Desi

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 5, 2006, 16:01:

Arthur have not you learned yet? Pics of girls.....Are you crazy? Her belly button is showing! Stop that exploitation (if you value your PBH existance)

One thing is certain,,,,,,and I do mean certain.....and that is you did not have to post a poll asking where people come from because there is not a chance in hell that the kind of stuff that moderation (all non Colombians) find objectionable, a Colombian would not.

I do find it kind of comical that people here have concluded that there are so few Colombian

ANYWAY......GOOD LUCK DESI......I'LL TRY NOT TO INCUR YOUR WRATH
JUST CHILL OUT AND BE OPEN MINDED

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arthur brode says on Dec 5, 2006, 16:35:

G5 what do you think about Marcella?i asked her to cover her belly button,but she just couldnt do it.


http://www.picturetrail.com/gid13979200

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 5, 2006, 18:44:

Arthur I can't seem to download the pic....I think moderation pulled the plug.

See how fast they work? If I can't open the door to my office in the morning, I'm going to blame moderation too.

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andresumana says on Dec 5, 2006, 19:49:

Congrats Desi Is nice to find people from outside ready to give their time into a blog like this that need a lot of effort to contain and also to let it flow keeping the balance that makes it so particular and intresting.

I know you will doit great.

Buena suerte

Andres

http://www.colombia4you.com

http://www.colombia4you.com

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Cerealkiller says on Dec 5, 2006, 19:51:

Yay Desi! I reeeeally am digging it, congratulations, no one could have been better for the job :P

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 5, 2006, 19:54:

My Goodness Arthur Oh yea........I got the pic now.

Hmmmm good things come to those who wait. Arthur.........uhhhh.
Nevermind.
Nice, Very much so. You have good taste Arthur. No wonder your so happy over there.


Thanks Mario.......Goofy me I just clicked on it. I had way too much of that hot Christmas drink this evening. I think......Goog? Glog? or whatever it's called.

And guess what? That drink comes from where our new moderator is from. Finland, Sweden....somewhere in that neck of the woods.

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Colombiche says on Dec 5, 2006, 19:54:

Way to go Desi To the guys that said they dreaded the day PBH would have a female moderator I have one thing to say:

Na na na naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Na na na naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Who is ya mommy nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww???

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 5, 2006, 19:59:

Colombiche I don't think dreaded is quite the word........concern is more like it

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billyb says on Dec 5, 2006, 20:00:

BTW, Desi congrats on becoming... the new sheriff in town.

BillyB

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 5, 2006, 21:06:

Actually Desi is among the few people on PBSH whose opinion I respect. Having said that, she now controls the content on PBSH, ColombiaBlog and ColombiaExperts. I do not believe that it is a good thing for one person to have so much power over Colombia-related content on the internet.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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arthur brode says on Dec 5, 2006, 21:17:

Utc,Desi could become a dictator. .

http://www.calirentals.net/

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:00:

Gomezman5, seriously.....can you please explain what you meant to say here:

One thing is certain...and that is you did not have to post a poll asking where people come from because there is not a chance in hell that the kind of stuff that moderation (all non Colombians) find objectionable, a Colombian would not.

Please expound.

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:04:

Miguel_Clavo, you only read or got two thirds of the equation: DESI = GOMEZMAN5 = ELMODEFOQUE! jeje

Oh! Disculpa; I jus was reading further, and see I have missed another quarter of the puzzle:
= MIGUEL_CLAVO!

But, still the most messmerizing conjecture is that UTOPIACOWBOY WRITES THE WHOLE DAMNED FORUM! lol!

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:14:

hell! Miguel, I thought you were the moderator on the solo espanol forum.
I don't think Desi will need your help, Cluso; she's sharp like a filet knife. And, BTW, that was some good spanglish you wrote last night. Congrats.
"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:17:

Arthur was bragging?? Arthur bragged about "doing" the women in the photos or their friends or something like that, presumably in exchange for the cookies.
COOKIES IN EXCHANGE FOR COOKIES.
Sounds like a pretty fair deal to me ;)

Where do we go from here?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:50:

Whooozzzzzzz Your Mommmmmiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee!! lol! Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 5, 2006, 22:53:

G5 and Galecito! If we keep that up, think of all the therapy lessons and expenses we will cause!!!!!! might do some posters some real harm! jajaja...


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 6, 2006, 01:19:

My thanks to all well-wishers and colombiche you woke me up laughing with your "nananananaaaaaa who's ya mommy now", brilliant!

Gomezman, when you leave your office building today watch out for falling icicles. There might be "moderation" at work there.

UC, Arthur Brode, yes, I'm involved in all three major Colomnbia boards but not alone in any of them. It's teamwork.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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quindioman says on Dec 6, 2006, 04:43:

congrats Desi I think I might start posting on the regular again at PBH.....
I apologise in advance to those that I have irrigated...I mean irritated in the past.

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goin_south says on Dec 6, 2006, 05:30:

what a reception! Many happy moons, Desi :)
Well, that will be an easy one to moderate: la luna bella,... or el trasero de un poster sin felicidad!

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Dec 6, 2006, 05:30:

what a reception! Many happy moons, Desi :)
Well, that will be an easy one to moderate: la luna bella,... or el trasero de un poster sin felicidad! lol

Where do we go from here?

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 07:16:

Galecito...I said what I said And interestingly enough, it is pretty much what Miguel Clavo was referencing in his other thread congradulating Desi and Tinto. In that thread, Miguel Clavo pointed out how of all the moderation here, not one person is Colombian.

So, when I mentioned how the poll had indicated that most people here are American....by a distinct majority, and more importantly only 25% were from Colombia, it stands to reason that the moderation is going to be reflective of non Colombian thinking and ideologies, that are purported to be representative of what Colombia is like. Non Colombians are giving their point of view of Colombia but only from the perspective they come from. I don't have doubt that Desi knows Colombia well, and her Spanish is clearly better than mine. However, she has a European frame of reference when it comes to her interpretation of things. Attitudes and actions that are perfectly acceptable in Colombia, are often not accepted in Europe....especially countries like Sweden, or being PC is the order of the day. In Colombia, thank God, there is no such thing as being PC. So I often wonder how someone like her ....not just her.....but others similarly situated might really enjoy life in Colombia, when she comes from a totally different frame of reference.

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litost says on Dec 6, 2006, 07:32:

I'm not in this discussion, but I just want to point out that the poll asked "where do you live", not "where do you come from" or "where were you born". Since I am now living in Paris I clicked on "others", but excuse me for saying this I think I have a lot more background enabling me to talk about Colombia than somebody who's been there a couple of years chasing around paisas and throwing around cookies.

As for Desi, she may not be colombian but she has showed us over years, without a shadow of a doubt, that she is profoundly interested and deeply understanding of colombian culture (albeit somewhat calicentric). I find it natural that she be a moderator on this site. The colombian moderator may sound like a good idea, but personally I think it would be very difficult to distinguish nationalistic pride and bias from the enforcement of the rules of this site.

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 07:52:

I'm not in this discussion, I like that litost. Very creative of you.

You say that you are not in the discussion, but you write 2 paragraphs anyway. Doesn't that make you a part of the discussion? Or are you just sending vibes so others may pick up on your point?


BTW, litost, don't "kiss up" with the below quote:
"As for Desi, she may not be colombian but she has showed us over years, without a shadow of a doubt, that she is profoundly interested and deeply understanding of colombian culture"

That line was funny. I asserted above that Desi is knowledgable. I would not put it quite as strongly as you however.

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 07:52:

I'm not in this discussion, I like that litost. Very creative of you.

You say that you are not in the discussion, but you write 2 paragraphs anyway. Doesn't that make you a part of the discussion? Or are you just sending vibes so others may pick up on your point?


BTW, litost, don't "kiss up" with the below quote:
"As for Desi, she may not be colombian but she has showed us over years, without a shadow of a doubt, that she is profoundly interested and deeply understanding of colombian culture"

That line was funny. I asserted above that Desi is knowledgable. I would not put it quite as strongly as you however.

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aztec says on Dec 6, 2006, 08:28:

utopiacowboy expresses... ...the only reservation I had about Desi being a moderator. That is why I earlier asked Peter not to pick anyone else from the "other" site.

The culture of the other site is different from PBH. It is populated with high school graduates from California who are slowly taking over the site from the owner. The PC crowd is exerting its influence and the owner is not even aware of it.

"Actually Desi is among the

Actually Desi is among the few people on PBH whose opinion I respect. Having said that, she now controls the content on PBSH, ColombiaBlog and ColombiaExperts. I do not believe that it is a good thing for one person to have so much power over Colombia-related content on the internet.
By utopiacowboy"

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litost says on Dec 6, 2006, 08:53:

Ok just to answer G5 (without getting into the discussion jeje) I usually just quickly scan these types of discussions and only occasionally respond, for several reasons: 1- I'm at work, 2- English isn't my native language so it takes time to get my point across, and 3- I prefer to participate in informative threads where I feel I can be helpful.

Gotta go!

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Colombiche says on Dec 6, 2006, 09:04:

Colombiche - I don't think Colombiche - I don't think dreaded is quite the word........concern is more like it

Pues ahi tiene Gomezman, para que chupe y embombe ja ja ja!

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Dec 6, 2006, 09:05:

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No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 10:21:

"Thems My People!", Aztec! Jajajajajaja "The culture of the other site is different from PBH. It is populated with high school graduates from California who are slowly taking over the site from the owner. The PC crowd is exerting its influence and the owner is not even aware of it.----aztec"

I guess since i am also a California High School graduate and CA undergraduate, i should check out this other site....but that would take up too much time....for me, 1 site is enough. i read PBH to obtain practical and real information from people (whom are the REAL EXPERTS on this site, not the self-proclaimed ones!) who have real first hand experience and the subsequent knowledge with life in Colombia, but i also hate to see so much ColombiaBashing, and that is when i get involved. Its a real disservice to Colombians and Colombia. And what purpose does it accomplish? I think Peter intended PBH as a positive site, not the negative site it seems to be. But, that is what happens when you add the people factor into the equation. Sort of like those T-shirts that read "Instant Assh at le-----just add beer!!" jajajaja.....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 11:05:

Wow sensitive aren't we Tinto? Can't take a tweak here and there?

It's common knowledge my man, the best bosses, are the ones that don't want to be a boss, or whose responsibility as a boss is secondary to the real part of their job. Consistent with the above, I think someone that is predisposed to moderating on several different forums, is someone who likes to impose their rules, and will, as they see it, in forums where free speach is encouraged. Hey, you made my point all the more, when you said that the next moderator should be a female. That was the only standard that you set forth in that post. And only days later,..,almost like magic, Desi was appointed. Coincidence? Yea sure.

The same applies to moderators on a forum. Those who want to be moderators are often the ones that are least capable of doing it fairly. On the whole Tinto, with the exception of some bias against my point of view, I think you do a good job at moderating. You also have a tendency to take a "rule" that you claim is simple to abide by, and apply it somewhat inconsistently....depending on the subject of course. Keep in mind that there is no such thing as a simple rule. If that were the case, there would be a lot of lawyers out of jobs.
No mind. Nobody is perfect. Nothing personal.

However Tinto, if you cannot take a bit of tweaking.,..ignore my posts. Cut me off, and you send the wrong message to all. I'm one of those types that if you ignore me, I'll step back. Others tweak me all the time. Why should you be exempt? However, complaining about my "swipes" at moderation, and you add fuel to the fire, and I come right back. I do it for fun, and for principle.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 11:46:

My vote for Moderator would be: 1. mcraig
2. The Big A
3. cowboysteve.......


just kidding..=).....but one of the few people here who actually takes the time to evaluate both sides to an issue, and based on that, discuss the issue, and THEN offer an opinion seems to be juancegomez....he would be my choice for a moderator with that type of patience and temperment......and who cares if the moderators intelligence is located in a male or female body, anyway? as long as it is not in an orangutan who cares???

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 6, 2006, 11:47:

Gomez take your grievances about my moderating with me as they become evident on this forum, not a priori with Tinto and other members. Let's stop this bickering. Your parrot is going to learn bad habits.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 12:11:

Tinto You make it sound as if I have this long history of wanting to turn this site into women and dating. Where did you see me advocate that? When? You will not find it anywhere so I'll spare you the search. My only complaint deals with when something involving a woman comes up, whether it be a picture (nothing obscene of course) or where to find women at a CLUB, or something is said that could,,,,,not neccessarily is, but could be deemed sexists, the red lights start glaring and the sirens start sounding. Gays get protection though. Sure there has been lighted hearted talk about Colombian women that come up in a thread, or a post, but that does not mean the you should go nuts about it. To take women out of discussions about Colombia is a joke. It will come up and it should come up. It is a big part of Colombia,,,,,just as much a part of Colombia as the security situation, drugs, coffee, it scenery, and anything else......only more so. Your concern that someone makes a comment about Colombia, in relation to women, and the fact that it might be offending some woman, makes no sense. Colombian men......talk about women night and day. It is a big part of their culture. And there is not a soul on this board that can tell me otherwise. Every Colombian knows that ....both men and women.....

So don't make it sound that I think that we should turn the board into a big discussion room of hookers and alike. If that is what you think, you sure the hell am reading things into my posts that just are not there. Talk about what I write, not about what you percieve that I mean to have written. There is a difference you know. If you are going to moderate fairly, than by all means you should know the difference..........

BTW, I noticed Kernow does not participate here anymore, but he is very active on CBlog.....anyone know why?

Oh, and Tinto.....let's forget this stuff already. I do agree with your post about people arguing about the forum....the one you put in Miguel Clavo's other thread. HOWEVER, even the very issue that I am addressing can be left off the threads, if you allowed yourself to recieve emails. I think moderators should be required to do so. I have Desi's. Even if you just set one up (like I have) for just this site, you will find for sure, that a lot of the debate, especially the procedural stuff and "bitching" would be kept off the threads if people were able to bring the issue to you directly.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 6, 2006, 13:40:

Quindioman good to see you back. Keep on irrigating:)

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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aztec says on Dec 6, 2006, 14:45:

Rubito... ...as soon as I submitted my remarks about PC I knew I should have excluded you. However, if you are not careful that crowd will emasculate you. I can remember when you were much more forceful in your opinions.

You have mellowed a lot. Maybe you can hang in a little longer than Cam.

In any case, I view you somewhat as a maverick. The kind of individual who has the courage to discover new worlds while the rest of us stay at home in our warm and cozy homes.

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goin_south says on Dec 6, 2006, 16:03:

Desi... "Tengo mucha compasión para el loro en Chicago."

Where do we go from here?

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 16:49:

FYI Desi used to live in Chicago. So for all you guys that think that she can do no wrong, keep in mind, Chicago was her city of choice.

And no we have some Midwesterner masquerading as a Texan. Hmmmmm. I admit, I would not want to admit my heart was in Mini, even if I lived there.

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Colombiche says on Dec 6, 2006, 17:25:

I really tried to leave this topic alone.. but I don't know why you guys are going on about CBlog being so PC and strictly moderated. I have been a mod there for over a year now, and the only thread I ever deleted was spam. I have never deleted any comments and never banned any members, even the ones that were flaming me.

The other female mods don't usually delete thread either, they are just outspoken, big deal, they are just as entitled to their opinion as you are to yours. What scares you guys so much about hearing what the other side has to say?

I find your fear of having a female mod so amusing, as if a woman is not capable of being impartial. As far as I know PBH is a page about Colombia and its people where everybody is welcome to participate, not a boy's club where a moderator should be given the third degree on the basis of her gender. People are people, qualities such as intelligence and impartiality don't restrict themselves to a specific gender.

Anyway, I am getting back on my time capsule and going back to the 21st century, I took some pictures of your cave paintings, they were exquisite.....

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 6, 2006, 19:40:

It interests me to know that Cam was also driven from ColombiaBlog because his viewpoints did not echo the PC party line that is imposed by a cabal of California women who have absolutely no connection with Colombia. They may have had Colombian boyfriends at some point in the past and lest we forget, they are Latinas. It would never even occur to my wife to describe herself as Latina let alone preface every statement with "Speaking as a Latina..." Will Barack Obama run for president beginning every speech saying "Speaking as a black man..." I doubt it.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Colombiche says on Dec 6, 2006, 19:47:

UC Since you are discussing this stuff publicly, (I attempted to do so privately to no avail), let me tell you that the person in question was never banned from CBlog. He went in there one day, wrote an angry rant about greasy Mexicans soiling his carseat and left never to come back....

Heck, if anybody ever wrote something like that about colombians here at PBH, it would be deleted by one of the mods. Just because I am not Mexican, it doesn't mean I am going to turn a blind eye.

UC, that is the thing about you, you are very selective about what is offensive and what isn't. If it touches you then your feathers ruffle.... If it involves ridiculing somebody else, who cares, let's jump in and join in the fun.... De vez en cuando es necesario sentir el dolor ajeno.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Cerealkiller says on Dec 6, 2006, 19:55:

Whats is this thing about California Highschoolers taking over Cblog? Honestly guys, and I dont mean to be rude, unless youre flooding the site with nonsense or what colombians would accurately call Verborrea chances are you wont be censored. Is it more PC? I dont know, I have never felt like cant speak my mind in there, as a matter of fact It reminds me that foreigners see more than just chicas and culos, which is a relief...I loved the language thread here -many of you have said so as well- and it has been one of the most popular, which means people here have a lot of interesting things to say than just the usual hookers post...Maybe women should be more active here, if I had time Id volunteer to moderate, and I think the fact that Desi is moderating will probably be a positive contribution for the site's sake. The aim of this site is to provide people who are in Colombia, will come to Colombia, are considering to visit Colombia with some relevant advice they can use. Not to just have a silly laugh.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 6, 2006, 20:14:

Cerealkiller, when people can't come to PBSH and have a silly laugh, that will be the end of PBSH. See how much traffic ColombiaExperts gets.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Cerealkiller says on Dec 6, 2006, 20:22:

Utopia Im not saying you cant have a silly laugh, I do it very often reading some of the posts. My point is that is not the SOLE purpose of this site but rather a cool extra. I have never been to ColombiaExperts so I cant say anything about it. I can, however, talk about Cblog because I post there regularly and know there is not such thing as a conscience police chasing posters as some have insinuated.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 6, 2006, 20:23:

Colombiche, I get insulted and tarred and feathered on a regular basis here. PBSH is a nasty mean-spirited place but there has been no organized effort, until now, to censor lines of thought which are unpopular with a certain segment of the audience. If you don't like the topic, don't read it! I don't read any threads inquiring about the best way to make low cost phone calls and the best way to send money to Colombia. Feel free to call me a sheep-loving midget cowboy, Colombiche, but I draw the line when certain parties insinuate that I have no right to speak because I am a "white" man and I should stick with "my people". Those are fighting words.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Colombiche says on Dec 6, 2006, 20:28:

Okay fine.. Sheep loving midget cowboy!!!!!! Beeehhhh! ha ha ha!!!!

now, let's lighten up.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 21:50:

I agree with UTC to the extent that racial comments have no business on PBH, whether anti-white, anti-latino or any other racial (or sexist comments)....i have never visited CB or ColExp, and really have no interest to, but i can very easily how the PC attitude that is so prevalent in California can be so unwelcome in other parts of the US and world. As a cop, i had to be especially aware of PC currents, as what i would say could be interpeted as speaking for the entire Police Department to its detriment. But being retired now, i can, and quite often do, speak my mind and express my opinion with out any PC-influenced manner. Actually feels really good! =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Dec 6, 2006, 21:56:

jus because it appears the board has not 'run out of rant'... and, to be fair to all, I think Peter should find a 'well-spoken, black, colombian, female virgin from a strata 1 or 2' to be the next moderator ;)

Where do we go from here?

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 23:08:

Sorry Miguel Clavo ..you missed UC's point You did NOT read UC's post correctly. His post was not about racist comments. It was about mean spirited attacks on people who don't agree with the popular "company line" and therefore to discourage such opinions, people get mean spirited by attacking one's race.

UC's post centered around this comment:
"I get insulted and tarred and feathered on a regular basis here. PBSH is a nasty mean-spirited place but there has been no organized effort, until now, to censor lines of thought which are unpopular with a certain segment of the audience."

UC used the comment about him being a "White man" as an example of how people are mean spirited when unpopular lines of thought are discussed. I have to go through the same crap when I start expressing my opinions on Colombia. Same thing. Different person. Different context. I know you think it's funny when I get called every name under the sun, just because I say that Colombia is a very unsafe country. But that that is what UC is talking about. I have an opinion. And personal attacks for expousing it go uncensored, thereby encouraging more crap. Or to put it another way, the same people that attack UC about being a white man, also are calling me a scare mongerer, or chicken, thin skinned, and even questioned my manhood. Same thing Mr. Clavo......same thing.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 23:28:

G5...here is what i was referencing..... "I agree with UTC to the extent that racial comments have no
business on PBH, whether anti-white, anti-latino or any other racial (or sexist comments)...." MC

"Feel free to call me a sheep-loving midget cowboy, Colombiche, but I draw the line when certain parties insinuate that I have no right to speak because I am a "white" man and I should stick with "my people". Those are fighting words. " UTC

His reference to him being a white man, "my people", etc....

As for me, i believe in the sticks and stones principle......."sticks and stones may breake my bones, but words will never hurt me"...kinda lame, but appropriate, no? i could care less what people call me/write about me on a website....this is the internet, after all.....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 6, 2006, 23:46:

Well that's fine Clavo But obviously UC, myself, and a bunch of other people just don't buy into your line:

"As for me, i believe in the sticks and stones principle......."sticks and stones may breake my bones, but words will never hurt me"...kinda lame, but appropriate, no? i could care less what people call me/write about me on a website....this is the internet, after all....." At the same time, how can you be worried about racial slurs, when you just gave me this sticks and stones stuff.......Are you always so consistent? (contradictory)

And guess what Clavo, I would bet the barn that Tinto, Desi, and Peter also would not agree with your "sticks and stones" assertion. If your thinking was the "order of the day", we would not need any moderation at all would we? Think about that...

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 23:54:

Did you miss the "As for me," part? i was speaking only for.. myself, and no one else.

I am not sure why you are arguing here, but i will play along.

"At the same time, how can you be worried about racial slurs, when you just gave me this sticks and stones stuff.......Are you always so consistent? (contradictory)" G5

i could care less if anyone uses racial slurs against me..call me a beaner, spic, greaser...i could give a shit.....they only show the users ignorance, and when used behind a internet forum screen name, IMHO, does not make it personal, and i dont take it that way......i am not so sensitive as some others are. But with regards to internet forum rules, i support the enforcement of rules against racial slurs and sexist statements for the sole reason of maintaining civility among the users.......hardly a inconsistent or contradictory statement....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 6, 2006, 23:57:

Oh Contrare, G5! UTC is not included in your group....re: "Feel free to call me a sheep-loving midget cowboy, Colombiche, but I draw the line when certain parties insinuate that I have no right to speak because I am a "white" man and I should stick with "my people". Those are fighting words."

Got it? Good! =)


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 7, 2006, 00:01:

BTW...i am suprised by your lack of posting in the PC thread? Or are you just trying to hurt my feelings? =(


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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famsearch says on Dec 7, 2006, 02:15:

all i can say is... congrats desi! (now going back to my corner)
dan

dan

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webmanco says on Dec 7, 2006, 07:37:

"down the drain" Another thing that would help PBH is to rescue all the topics that go "down the drain" so to speak.

Some new topics get lost because posters don't realize or forget to select a forum.





I do remember a couple, one about Mac Donald closing its restaurants in Latinamerica, and one where someone was asking about receipes to make "arepas boyacenses"

Another good thing would be to correct some words (just in the subject line) that might create confusion in the learning of spanish,or better the colombian spanish, for example Seviche is fine but in Colombia is known as Ceviche.



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...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Peter (Moderator) says on Dec 7, 2006, 14:13:

the The words "relax" come to mind :) Remember, it's a thankless job. And this thread shows why. Once, by the way, we got a crazy rightwinger who was superracist so I deleted him and he followed up with emailtreats about "hunting me down" etc. for weeks ;) Hahaha. You gotta have a sense of humor on the internet. I'm writing more guides by the way, got a Bogota and a Medellin one coming up.

Poor but snappy

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 7, 2006, 14:58:

Peter...maybe you can write a short post about your original intentions for creating this site. Some people think it is a forum designed to bash Colombia....Your thoughts?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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arthur brode says on Dec 7, 2006, 17:58:

some people like DG and G5 that dont want Gringos comming to Colombia...jiji

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Gomezman5 says on Dec 7, 2006, 19:12:

Well, they say.... "Everybody loves somebody" I guess I should have applied for that moderator position afterall. I knew there had to be a reason why my parrot would give me a nip everytime I logged into PBSH

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Colombiche says on Dec 7, 2006, 19:41:

.. I vote for the parrot!

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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goin_south says on Dec 8, 2006, 03:57:

. "Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

Where do we go from here?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 07:18:

I totally missed this thread! Hey Desi was I the last to know you were a moderator? i am so glad you are a moderator, go girl and kick some a*** jijij

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 07:40:

LOL kat You were in Colombia having great time no wonder you missed it. Yeah, you probably were the last one to know. My hand is so subtle and my zapping so fast so most people have no idea that I've been moderating them...but yes, I've been doing a bit of editing, deleting and sending P.Ms. Tinto is back as a Moderator also and Peter has promised to keep an eye on the forums, so I think it's been rather smooth sailing.

Cheers,
Desi

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 07:47:

THAT IS GREAT CONGRATULATION!


Can you deleted elmo? jiji O/J we need a clown in pbh anyway.

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Monpirri says on Jan 26, 2007, 07:58:

Desi I missed it too because I was traveling when you become a moderator, that's why I have not posted any comments here on this thread.
I do not know if everybody else have noticed but there are too many prostitution topics going on here or similar subtle and related topics.
Colombianas are subject of harassments by three or four individuals and it is always the same dudes who continue to post the same BS.
I wonder what does Peter think about this escalating problem?

Desi, congratulations!!!!!

Monpirri,
Ojo colombianos, no se duerman!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 09:22:

Thank you guys I think we'll keep Elmo, at least for the time being. He DOES have some entertainment value, or had when he started. Now it's just hookers and toilet stuff that I don't think are so amusing any longer. Monpirri, I will find out what Peter thinks about every other thread either discussing prostitution or degenerating into lockerroom talk; I haven't done much of anything about all those hooker threads but maybe you're right; it can't be so much fun being a Colombian, man or woman and reading these posts.

Cheers,
Desi

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 09:54:

No, I don't see him as Colombian he's Colombian born, but has lived all his life in USA and his thinking is very much New York.
Cheers,
Desi




Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:05:

I’m the only one here who has lived the true Colombian experience and every time I return you’ll find me in the same places where I grew up. I’m neither middle class nor rich, I grew up in the deepest of Colombian poverty and they still make up over 65 percent of the population, which would make them the majority.
In my Colombia women love their Colombian men and defend them to the end.
Not one single Columbiana here is married, dating or even likes Colombian guys!

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Colombiche says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:14:

Not true False statement Elmo, I like colombian guys. My colombian cousins are married to or dating colombian guys.

I have been all over the world, it takes a lot more than a blue passport to impress me and at the end of the day, there is no place like home.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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elmodefoque says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:18:

colombiche, i stand corrected. thank you!
now i better head for the hills and hide cus the other columbianas are coming after my black ass.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:34:

Elmo wrote "I’m the only one here who has lived the true Colombian experience and every time I return you’ll find me in the same places where I grew up. I’m neither middle class nor rich, I grew up in the deepest of Colombian poverty and they still make up over 65 percent of the population, which would make them the majority.
In my Colombia women love their Colombian men and defend them to the end.
Not one single Columbiana here is married, dating or even likes Colombian guys!"

what a poor description of what is being Colombian!

I don't have to justified why me or my sister or whoever are married to Foreigners, I married for love not nationality. Elmo you have a very shallow mentality may i said.

As I said if marriying a foreigner made me less Colombia, so be it who cares!

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kalder says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:34:

Snr. Defoque Pardon me for intruding, but I've seen that picture of you as a young man. And I must say that you were very good-looking. I wish I'd had that smouldering toreador look when I was 20. I find it hard to believe that you'd have had ANY difficulty bedding Colombianas.
My wifes's niece is an ex Reina del Barrio and her (impoverished) husband looks like Sitting Bull.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:37:

smouldering toreador? hahaha he looks like the bull more like it!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:48:

Iy was just my opinion as Desi not as a moderator. Sorry I should've made it clear...I stand by what I said, based on what I've read here during these three years he's been participating. It's not a value judgement; it doesn't make him a better or a worse person . I just gave a simple answer to a simple questions. Don't read too much into it.

Cheers,
Desi

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Mark Twain [Samuel Langhornne Clemens] (1835-1910)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:50:

esanch 36 I rather be Dip in chocolate and be throw to the lesbians.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 26, 2007, 10:50:

Kalder, if they look like sitting bull is not so bad now if they look like Geronimo, forggetiabouit jajajaj
I have only bedded one colombiana for free.
I think I’ve spent close to 50 thousand USA dollars for Colombian hookers.
In Colombia, even at 20 y