Need information on Passports

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 1, 2008, 14:51:

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NataliaV says on Jul 1, 2008, 15:12:

My mom traveled last year to Colombia after 30 years too and did not need a colombian passport. Her US passport was all she needed. My grandmother who has both passports, only uses her US passport. I don't think your mom will need a Colombian passport to travel. She should be fine.

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adrimm says on Jul 1, 2008, 16:52:

My mother travelled to Colombia on her Canadian passport. She was allowed in but was given a stern talking to when entering the county, and told to get her Colombian one renewed. She did (apparantly it only took a couple of hours in Bogota)...


But since they already have the passport (and said it would be a week), I'd remind them nicely about her travel-date.

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Mi Patria says on Jul 1, 2008, 17:49:

When I got my "contrasena" in Bogota, they told me I couldn't apply for a Colombian passport until I got the original cedula. La Registraduria is taking 8 months to over a year for those who are over 25 years old and filing for the first time. I can't even open a savings account without an original cedula. I might have to wait an entire year to open one.

Hope your mom gets hers on time. Good luck.

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Gator says on Jul 1, 2008, 19:47:

Mrs. Gator had to enter sever times with just her US Passport (she usually has her Colombian). Like Adrimm's mother, she was allowed in but was given a stern talking to when entering the county, and told to use her Colombian passport.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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roloenNJ says on Jul 2, 2008, 04:53:

I contacted the Colombian Consulate in the US before I went to Colombia a couple of months ago, and they told me that the DAS is not supposed to be asking for you Colombian Passport. They do that so that you will to pay to get a passport in Colombia, and therefore keep the money.

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viajero123 says on Jul 2, 2008, 05:31:

roloenNJ, that's weird. It doesn't make sense since passports are issued by the MRE, on which the consulates depend. None of the money form passports goes to DAS. I do think it is a sensible policy that Colombians enter Colombia on a Colombian passport. If you are a US citizen and try to enter with a foreign passport you are up for trouble.

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Gator says on Jul 2, 2008, 07:11:

RoloenNJ-Never heard of that. The passport is a LOT cheaper in Colombia than at a Consulate and even if your Colombian passports expired it is still proof and citizenship and you will be admitted and told to renew ASAP.

BTW, at least 20% of information you get from the consulates will usually be inaccurate.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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roloenNJ says on Jul 2, 2008, 09:10:

Why would I pay for a colombian passport when I am a US citizen I shouldnt be force into getting one when. Why would I be in trouble if I dont have anything to hide. I am entering the Country as a U.S. Citizen and if the Colombian Consulate in NYC do not have any problems with that? Why would the DAS make me get one if I am only staying for a couple of weeks? Now if I was over the age of 18 and I would had been in Colombia prior to becoming a US citizen I would be required to get a passport than. I only had my U.S. passport all 5 times I had travel to Colombia, and I will let you know if I run into any trouble next time I travel!!

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Gator says on Jul 2, 2008, 09:26:

Your PBH Profile:

Lives in: United States New Jersey
Sex: unspecified
Born in: Afghanistan

The above is from your profile. What's the problem. If you were not born in Colombia use your USA Passport.

Gee, if you are a dual citizen, Colombian/USA then Colombian law requires you to have a Colombian passport. Just pray you do NOT draw the wrong DAS agent.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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roloenNJ says on Jul 2, 2008, 09:49:

YES, I will pray on the way there. I do have dual Citizenship, and I have not been bother while in Colombia.

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 2, 2008, 10:36:

Any person who is still a Colombian citizen HAS to use their passport to enter Colombia. It's the law. Yeah, some people have not done so but that means they are breaking the law.

OJO:
De acuerdo con el articulo 22 de la ley 43 de 1993, “cualquier colombiano que tenga doble nacionalidad debe someterse en el territorio nacional a la Constitución Política y a las leyes de la República. Esto significa que para ingresar al territorio colombiano, mientras permanece en el país, y a la hora de salir de él, deben hacerlo en calidad de colombiano�. Es decir, con cédula de ciudadanía colombiana (cuando lo requiera) y pasaporte colombiano.


marbelmorales,
Even if your mom will not use her Colombian passport to go this time she needs to get it for future travel. It just bugs me that Colombians lose all respect for their nationality only because they have the right to get a new passport from a different country. It's just not right.

Diana

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viajero123 says on Jul 2, 2008, 10:59:

I agree mononoke28. I don't think American dual-citizens would use their 2nd nationality passport to enter the US, even for short visits. If they don't want the Colombian nationality, they can renounce it, otherwise, abide by the laws of the country, and come to Colombia as Colombians.
Colombia should have a queue for Colombians only in immigration.

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roloenNJ says on Jul 2, 2008, 11:58:

If I had my Colombia Cedula I would get my colombia Passport, but do to my job is not favorable at this time. I havent lose any respect for Colombia. I was born in colombia
and immigrated to the US at the age of 12, I love mi gente Colombiana, la cultura,la familia y mi pais. At the same time, I also thank the US for all the opportunities that have provided for me and my family. If Colombia was able to provide me with a job, safety, and most of the benefits that I have in the US, I would be in Colombia by now enjoying my life even more. SO, NO I HAVENT LOST any respect for Colombia or my nationality I wish I had more to give back to mi gente. I don’t go to Colombia to brag about how much money I have, or what country I come from like many people from the US do. I go to Colombia to thank god that he gave me the opportunity to improve my life, and be able to provide for my other family members that still in Colombia.

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 3, 2008, 08:47:

If you go to Colombia to visit then you have plenty of time to get your cédula and your Colombian passport. Trust me, I did it.

Diana

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roloenNJ says on Jul 3, 2008, 08:58:

if you did not understand IS NOT FAVORABLE AT THIS TIME, DUE TO THE JOB THAT I HAVE IN THE STATES. Do you feel good or do you enjoy arguing on this site? Is this what you life is about??? Trust me and Im glad that you have a Cedula and a Passport I dont know you and I dont come to this site to tell you what to do when you go to Colombia?? MONONOKE

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viajero123 says on Jul 3, 2008, 17:01:

roloenNJ, he is telling you to abide by the law. Anyone in this site can tell you to go to Colombia and abide by the Colombian laws. You have time to get a cedula and passport in Colombia. This wouldn't mean you stop being Colombian. Getting the cedula and passport is not any "worse" for your job than actually having a Colombian nationality.

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roloenNJ says on Jul 5, 2008, 04:32:

OK you guys dont understand I cant have a Colombian Passport or a cedula. It is a requirement at my Company ok. Yes, I am going to get my Cedula and my Colombian Passport later on, but not at this time . And I am not violating any colombian laws in regards to my status while Im visitin Colombia; I even talked to one of the supervisor's in the Colombian consulate in NYC and I know I would not get in any trouble while visiting Colombia with my U.S. passport. Thanks for you advice anyway.

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Mononoke28 says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:14:

Oh my gosh, I come back to this thread and see you almost have a coronary over something so trivial. Relax dude! And I still stand by what I said regardless of anybody's excuse.

Done and done.

Diana

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