need help identifying a spider in Bucaramanga

Lisa Zee says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:31:

Con rabo y con 4 patas y tiene forma de cangrejo? "La arana Picua" for sure.

adrienne79 says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:37:

no, no fue como la cancion pero gracias

MaFe says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:39:

These are poisonous spiders...

http://www.termite.com/spider-identification.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_bite

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vicshere says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:47:

adrienne you need to borrow my 9 mm handgun and shoot that SOB...holy crap thats a bigem

listo

adrienne79 says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:49:

Vic- I can see your neighborhood from my front yard so you better be on the lookout, too. (If I remember correctly.)

Still haven't identified it. The legs were all the same length about two inches each leg. All the legs were evenly placed. I don't recall seeing a very split abdomen, seemed like a round body to me.

vicshere says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:50:

hehe i hope you dont have a sniper rifle....a spy glass we have no curtains yet

listo

adrienne79 says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:52:

oh is that you always with no shirt on, lol.

vicshere says on Mar 27, 2008, 16:54:

hey????? ok enough and no photos on here

listo

Lostgringo says on Mar 27, 2008, 17:02:

I used to always let critters live. I read a story one time about a house wife that lost both her arms due to a house spider biting her. May just here i.e. allergic reaction. Anyway any spider I see in my house I kill right away. No mercy for these critters.

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adrienne79 says on Mar 27, 2008, 17:09:

allright deal. I just want to know what the heck this spider is....

paulr says on Mar 27, 2008, 17:35:

IT´s an incy wincy

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Bill Turley says on Mar 27, 2008, 19:07:

Adrienne
Really ALL spireds are poisonous, however only a few would seriously injure a person in good health. I have found some help with taxonomy by searching on the internet. Try What insect is that? Although spiders are not insects they might be able help

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Atrevido says on Mar 27, 2008, 20:12:

If you search "arañas venenosas colombianas" on Colombian Google, Colombia pages there´s quite a lot of information.

lampltr says on Mar 28, 2008, 05:14:

I know what you are talking about, we located 2 in our house on seperate occasions, central CO. They can inflict a painful bite which can be fatal depending on the person. I know this monster that is meantioned almost had me climbing on a telephone pole the first time I saw one run across my wifes foot early one evening, this sucker was a bit larger than a baseball! We will not talk about the fangs jaja...Just talked with a co-worker who is from Colombia he says it is a Tarantulas, I told him bull shit, these are much larger and seem like a good watch dog jaja. Doing some research on the net, believe this is what it is (will get a more definitive answer); Brazilian wandering spider, or family of....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_wandering_spider
Guess indians utilize the venom on poisonous darts...I may be wrong, but I believe this is it! No sniper rifle here, need a bazuka!

adrienne79 says on Mar 28, 2008, 11:14:

Thanks everyone. I still have not identifiesd it by looking at pictures but lampltr definitly has me scared. Hahaha! I really hope you are wrong but have a feeling you do know the one I am talking about. I had a hard tome sleeping last night. I just hope these things can not climb. Both times it was in the middle of the floor.

vicshere says on Mar 28, 2008, 11:21:

adrienne do like me install screen door and windows....no flies no bugs no spiders no mosquitoes

listo

adrienne79 says on Mar 28, 2008, 11:33:

If we were not renting I would do it in a second but due to the design of the windows, it isn´t even possible without removing the exsisiting window/door. For now Jorge will just have to take care of me and keep these things away from me. Hehehe!

sloopskipper says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:19:

The foto is scary enough, but the text is even worse.
________________________________________________________________________

Natural Viagra: Spider Bite Causes ErectionBy Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Staff Writer
http://www.livescience.com/health/070501_spider_venom.html
posted: 01 May, 2007 12:10 am ET

WASHINGTON — A Brazilian spider delivers more than a painful bite that sends most victims to the hospital. Its venom stimulates an hours-long erection. Now scientists have figured out the chemical that seems to be responsible for the penis boost.

In Brazil, emergency room staff can immediately spot the victims of a bite from the Brazilian wandering spider (Phoneutria nigriventer). Patients not only experience overall pain and an increase in blood pressure, they also sport an uncomfortable erection.

“The erection is a side effect that everybody who gets stung by this spider will experience along with the pain and discomfort,� said study team member Romulo Leite of the Medical College of Georgia. “We’re hoping eventually this will end up in the development of real drugs for the treatment of erectile dysfunction.�

The research was presented here at a poster session at the American Physiological Society (APS) annual meeting.

A recent, nationally representative study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University found that about 18 million men in the United States suffer from erectile dysfunction. Research has shown that about one in three men with mild to moderate forms of erectile dysfunction don’t respond to Viagra, with some of these men having success with either Levitra or Cialis. And men with severe erectile dysfunction have less success with the drugs.

Rodent erections

Kenia Pedrosa Nunes of the Medical College Georgia, Leite and colleagues separated the different components of the spider venom and ran tests on rats to eek out the erectile enhancer. Dubbed Tx2-6, the compound turned out to be a relatively short string of amino acids called a peptide.

Then, they injected the venom-chemical into rats stimulated to begin an erection. A tiny needle-like device inserted into each rat’s penis measured the pressure change, which corresponds with the increase in blood flow to the blood vessels inside the penis. Compared with control rats, those injected with the peptide showed a significant increase in penis pressure.

The scientists also found an increase in nitric oxide within the two main cylindrical cavities that run the length of the penis and are called corpora cavernosa.

Erection science

The significance of the nitric oxide is clear when the science behind an erection is considered: The brain senses sexual arousal in the body and certain neurons produce nitric oxide, a message telling the body to get started in making an erection. A cascade of biochemical steps occurs, one of which includes the production of an enzyme dubbed cGMP. This enzyme causes the smooth muscles of the penis’ two cylinders to relax so that blood can rush in and fill up the now expandable tubes. (A human penis can hold about 10 times more blood when erect compared with its non-erect state.)

“All of this leads to vaso-dilation of vessels that go through the penis and also relaxation of those [cylindrical tube muscles],� Leite told LiveScience. “They need to relax so the blood will come inside and that’s how you get an erection, because the blood gets trapped into the penis.�

But erections don’t last forever. The erectile party crasher, a substance called PDE-5 breaks down the cGMP and in turn transforms the erect penis into its normal limp state.

The most popular erectile-dysfunction drugs—Viagra, Cialis and Levtra—work by blocking this party crasher.

The spider chemical works in a different manner, affecting an earlier step in the erection process. Somehow, the toxin ups the amount of nitric oxide, which sort of sets into motion an erection. The scientists suggest that a combination of a synthetic version of the spider venom with a drug like Viagra would result in a magnified effect.

“So the combination of the two drugs could be even more efficient in patients that don’t respond well to Viagra,� Leite said.

Brings a whole new meaning to the retort "Bite me!"

sloopskipper says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:26:

Some other fotos and description:

http://www.rochedalss.qld.edu.au/wandering.htm

jonas says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:29:

So just hope the spider won´t get you but your husband :o)

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:29:

... So, do I have to let myself be bit by that spider then?

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

adrienne79 says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:30:

thanks sloop but this spider was not hairy looking as far as we could tell. My father in law got a beif description today and told us it is nothing to worry about. I'm still scared though. Hopefully this will get out of my mind soon.

jonas says on Mar 28, 2008, 14:31:

buy a cat

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

adrienne79 says on Mar 28, 2008, 18:30:

Thanks jonas. I LOVE CATS!!! Maybe now I can convince my husband that we have a reason to get one. He is not too fond of them.

lampltr says on Mar 28, 2008, 20:29:

adrienne, the foto's are magnified so the hair stands out, but when one (Research shows 400 species of this family of spider), is moving you cannot tell. Is the closest I can find so far to what you were describing, and the region is correct to locate one...you now have to physically catch a live one to post a foto. Now I can picture you male PBH' ers running around the house naked chasing one of these spiders trying to poke at one to get bit (Don't forget the movie Jackass with the snake jaja).... The men get erections, wonder what happens to women? Jonas, she buys a cat and it happens to be a male, she will be able to tell when the cat has been bitten, it will be like a dog trying to dry hump ones leg while watching television or will attack guests jaja.
The one I saw in the barrio that ran over the top of my wifes foot real quick like, all I could say was WTF is that as I was getting the hell out of the way, never in my life mama mia! The last episode was in my wife's nephews room about 3am, woke us all up with his screaming as this thing darted across his chest...After all was calm, I went back to bed but checked everywhere in the room including the bed sheets and desired to leave the light on jaja. Will have to get a 20 gal aquarium to set up for one of these!

adrienne79 says on Mar 29, 2008, 06:21:

Well, I have yet to see one of these things move. Both time it was just out in the middle of the floor without any movement what so ever. Made it easy for us to get a dustpan and smash it from the top. I think next time I should be able to get a picture easy enough unless it happens to be next to my camera. In that case, I don't think I will be grabbing the camera.

Juanes says on Apr 1, 2008, 15:52:

we went spider hunting with the tribesmen about 50 clicks south of leticia in colombia amazon......have a look what he found..tarantula right ?

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/

adrienne79 says on Apr 2, 2008, 05:25:

Well, another one came to visit us this morning. This time it was low on the wall....damn, I was hoping these things could nt climb. I did get some pictures. I am at work at the moment but I will post some pictures tonight. I am on a hunt to identify this thing. We asked our landlord who lives next door but they claim they have never seen them.

Anyone know of an effective spider killer/bait that we can use or will that just bring more into our place? I have a feeling I won´t be sleeping tonight. These things are bigger than the one above.

vicshere says on Apr 2, 2008, 06:11:

you need to start charging them rent

listo

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 2, 2008, 14:52:

3 things i do really hate Spiders, Rats and Cockroaches

Juanes that one it's horrible arggggggggggg

engage brain before opening mouth

adrienne79 says on Apr 2, 2008, 15:26:

"you need to start charging them rent"

or atleast a cover charge, right?

Jejeje. Well, just got home but am leaving to go get some bug spray. I think we need to worry about their food source which is bugs. Get rid of the bugs and hopefully the spiders stay away. I'll post the pics later. (Actually I still have to find a sight to upload them on to post the tag from).

adrienne79 says on Apr 2, 2008, 16:24:

Here are the pics. He is about 4-5 inches in leg span...hard to tell the size in the picture. The picture by the coin is him dead and all curled up.






Anyone want to come over and visit? Hehehe!

adrienne79 says on Apr 2, 2008, 16:27:

oh and we remember him being more blackish but as you can see in the photo...he is actually brownish.

jorgegdiaz says on Apr 2, 2008, 18:39:

Bump

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

adrimm says on Apr 2, 2008, 18:58:

Ugh. I hate spiders.. Juanes - your photos aren't showing,, but you must have left Colombia if you were 50 clicks south of Leticia!!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 3, 2008, 01:29:

Oh My God adrienne, I would have left that place for good by know,,,,that thing is horrible!!!!!! i wouldn't have been able to have a good sleep thinking that thing is crawling around the room arggggggggg

engage brain before opening mouth

poco says on Apr 3, 2008, 01:38:

Things could be worse:

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

adrienne79 says on Apr 3, 2008, 05:15:

Okay, I sent off some pictures to whatbugisthat.com. They identified it as a huntsman spider. Some tropical species are dangerous. I am praying this is not one of those. We both had a hard time sleeping last night.

Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 3, 2008, 10:36:

Adrienne79, watch the video at this link below. Get yourself some tarantula hawks and problem solved!

http://www.desertusa.com/video_pages/thawk1.html

Juanes says on Apr 3, 2008, 11:31:

jesus cristo, estas viviendo alla con eso, loco....i would be straight out the back door or get the thing caught. something about half that size slept over my hammock in the amazon in the natives hut but i made the indigeanous tour guide fold him up and put him outside unharmed.

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/