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Miguel says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:56:

Calmate UC When those dudes start spitting out "el ingles" con sus relatos de EEUU, they will feel really proud, and you and Mrs. Magoo can have some more fun if you ship out your Canadian kids! Suerte UC..it's all good. You already know that.

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Brians says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:56:

UC How old are they? You have only been married for two years they forget their country. Yikes!! Your wife might take them back for good if this keeps up. You will end up with spoiled little kids if you aren't careful.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:58:

UC, I must be the dumbest asshole in the planet. I came from utter poverty in Colombia, I should have been happy to get the f—k outta there to never return. Guess what, I was dying to go back to Barranquilla, I missed everything about my city, especially mi burrita (Maria Elena). It took me almost 3 years to feel ok here, and even now I look at Barranquilla as my real home. my kids still get pissed off when I tell them, “I’m going home!�, their reaction is always the same “pa, what the hell are you're talking about, this (NYC) is home� I tell them, this is home for you, you guys were born here, I was born in Colombia thank you very much.
dude,leave their colombian ass over there jejejejej

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 7, 2005, 11:05:

utopia, you made me smile (and cringe) because all that sounds too familiar. I've offered to pay the trip for my kids if they would go and visit the country of their birth and childhood, but every time I mention it they hang up on me! Every time we talk about it they say no, mom, not this year, we have just booked a holiday trip to London, Barcelona, Venice, Tokyo, New York where ever but not Cali or Bogotá.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 11:13:

Hell, I would have gladly traded places with the three of them! Youth and just about everything else is wasted on the young.

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Miguel says on Jun 7, 2005, 11:13:

NO Elmo estas equivcado I am the dumbest asshole on the planet. Elmo already knows this and I am sure he will soon send my comments about the "MOTHER OF ALL THREADS" that he and I have been working on for a month. I think that when UC's kids come back, they will "get it".

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 7, 2005, 11:57:

God, I wish I could send my kids somewhere for 5 weeks, now that yours are gone UC, can you have mine. heheh

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elmodefoque says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:09:

I used to sent my kids (early teens) to Orlando (my brother’s place) for the summer. Well, it turns out my son was screwing all the southern blonde girls in the Orlando area. I got there and that sonamanbiche had gold chains, new clothes, shoes etc. the white girls were giving him everything, he was like a 15 year old pimp.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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adrimm says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:09:

Never underestimate the guilt-trip dammnit I just wrote a huge long response it timed out on me.

I am like Desi's kids. The only reason I went to colombia last time was that my mother paid for it and I was so broke and desperate for a break from life that I would have gone anywhere. Why? well visiting Colombia isn't exactly fun. It involves wearing uncomfortable shoes, being on display, being grilled on every personal aspect of my life under the sun, and beng passed off like a relay baton from family-member to family member. It is also very uncomfortable becuase I am invariably confronted with parts of the culture that I dislike a great deal, and no one living there gets it.

The reason why I am going on my next trip is that my favouriote aunt is getting very old and will likely not last many more years. I also do want to give my cousins a chance. We haven't spent much time together since childhood and I am curious to see what this new generation is like. I also realised that colombia is very close to some amazing places like Machu Pichu and the Amazon. Places that I can visit for my own pleasure and enjoy on my own or with other international travellers.

UTC it is extremely importantn that your step kids have fun seeing things aside from their relatives. Capture their imagination. Make sure they go to places like Cartagena, (whisper Pirates of the Carribean in their ear) Cartagena was the real-thing (sort of). If the kids get stuck at home with cheek-pinching relatives they will grow up like me and have great trouble going to colombia.

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greenday says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:11:

hey kat1 I've got an idea...send your kids AND your husband away for 5 weeks and I'll be on the first plane to merry old England!!!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:30:

Greenday Dont you start putting the little devil wispering in my ear. ;-)

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WidowerfromCanada says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:39:

I think you are doing a great job UTC.... I think you are doing a great job UTC with your step kids....

I salute you for taking on and marrying a wonderful woman with kids... I hope I am as lucky and happy as you in the future whenever I meet someone special....

Right now I am happy and lucky to have my wonderful children who I love so much..

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:41:

good advice, adri I think the main reason my kids don't want to go to Colombia is that every time they have been there they have been couped up in grandpa's house with grandma clucking like an old hen around them (she liked to show them off as trophies to her snotty friends...blonde, blue-eyed, white-skinned children ...mis nietos:))). On later trips, they didn't get to go anywhere because it was always "too dangerous" to show your face outside the house, especially if not guarded, chaperoned and escorted by some older relatives.

My daughter managed to get herself a Caleño boyfriend on the same night of her 15-year-old party and I did have some hopes that maybe she'd be more interested in Colombia after that. No dice, we stayed for two months and the youngsters spent all their free time in each other's company, supervised of course, by either me or the boy's mom. God they were cute together! As soon as we got back to Stockholm she started seeing all her old friends here again and forgot this cute Caleño very soon.

My son won't go to Colombia because he likes to clubbing and move freely around the town (like most young men do)and he feels that he wouldn't be safe there. He doesn't think they play his kind of music (don't ask me ) and that he doesn't really have much anything in common with Caleños in his age group.

I am trying to get them to go and stay a couple of weeks at least (maybe longer) when I'm there myself and they don't have to stay with their uncles or cousins. That was the main reason for taking over the house in Cali, converting it to a B&B and having always a place for myself and my kids to go to and stay, a place of their own.

I'm planning to take them to Cartagena and Bogotá at least, besides Cali. Probably an Avianca airpass for three or four cities would do the trick...they have never been anywhere except in Cali.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Diggs says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:42:

Shoot, my daughter is 10 years old, born and raised in California, she just got out of school and so far her vacations are going to work with me because I can't leave her at home by herself, I thought about sending her to Colombia with my family, she got very exited about the idea, she loves it there, unfortunately the dollars were not enough...

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Dan says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:49:

UC didn't want to go??? that's nuts! How long have they been in the US, a little over a year or so? I don't remember... They don't know how lucky they are. Plus being able to travel like that too, shoot. How many people really get that kind of chance to do that. That goes for just about anyone. I was born in Europe and have traveled all my life. I have reletives that have barely traveled out of their state for a vacation.

They may have a different outlook on things when they get back. They may change their minds and want to stay (I know I would). My wife and step-daughter are looking forward to coming to the US and getting to visit all kinds of places here.

BTW, enjoy the quietness with your wife.

God Bless America!

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poco says on Jun 7, 2005, 13:10:

Kids Make them leave the xBox?

edit: I can't help myself but this dribbled off the ends of my fingers and not worth a new post.

Make sure they go to places like Cartagena, (whisper Pirates of the Carribean in their ear)

Buccaneers would be a better choice. If the word is new,, I’ve thought of several translations.

Right now they are leaving their friends. Change that to Girlfriends

sticking their noses where they are unwanted Best leaving this one alone.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 13:21:

Now you're talking, Poco! That and all their friends. They've been here a little over a year but you'd think they had spent their entire lives here. If only I could have sent my two sons along with them - they might have had a lot more interest in going. Maybe in a couple of years....

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juanalejo says on Jun 7, 2005, 13:34:

Age I think age has a lot to do with it. My nephews here in Bogota hate going to see their cousins in Houston and Boston as they find those places boring. Everytime they go they can not see the moment to come back. I think they simply miss their friends, their way of doing things, their freedom of knowing the place, knowing what to do and where to go. They like going for like a week at the most, going to amusement parks and back. My niece hates shopping and she always complains that her American cousins only like going to the mall, again and again.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 13:51:

I had to laugh when you wrote about your son "the white girls were giving him everything". That explains everything, Elmo! That's exactly how the two boys were living here - no wonder they didn't want to leave for 5 weeks.

I do think there's a lot to be said for what juanalejo said. Wherever teenagers are - that's the place where they hang with their friends and they hate to be taken out of it. They are very conservative creatures actually - they hate change.

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kernow62 says on Jun 7, 2005, 14:00:

I agree it has to do with age. As they get older they may change their outlook and look forward to trips to Colombia. Right now they are leaving their friends and what is comfortable to them right now. I used to hate visiting the US when I was young, what a dump I used to think, now look at me; I live here.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 14:58:

Damm, Kernow, are you living in a dump?

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 7, 2005, 15:09:

"Moaning nonstop about life here" Well there are some Colombians that are moaning about life here. But I think they are few and far between. They are not prisoners here either. Their passoport, both American or Colombian will allow them to return to Colombia. I would not even want to speculate about how many more Colombians seek a life here versus Americans who seek a life in Colombia. Although you would not believe that is the case from reading the space cadets stories on this web site.

These kids may not be so stupid after all. Seeing the uncles and cousins versus all the other important stuff that a wealthy guy like yourself as to offer them in beautiful Texas. And their friends, and the games,,,,and who knows what else. Look UTC, a vacation lasts a week or two...three on the outside. Anything more than that is excess. It's too much. Time to come home

I think the only person who is really upset about them only being gone only 5 weeks is YOU!!! I would rather have 8 weeks of peace and quiet than 5. Are you doing a form of blame shifting. Look Utc, enjoy the quiet, the wife being away, and all that. Go for broke. Have a great time and forget about the wife and kids. Who knows, maybe you get to love the solitude so much, you will not want them ever to come home?

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 15:19:

My wife didn't go with them and shipping them off to Colombia was her idea, not mine. I sure hope they are able to get back in, heh, heh, heh....

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 7, 2005, 15:46:

Then that was your first mistake You should have shipped her off with them.

Get the woman out of town......so you can go out on the town. Or I would invite you down to Guadalajara with me. Those Colombianas are hot but those "Tapatias" in GDL (the long legged, natural blond, green eyed) ones would love to meet a Texas cattle rancher like yourself. By the way, they will give the paisitas a run for their money.

Those are the Mexicans you never see in San Antonio or Chicago either for that matter. To this day Mexico does not realize some of the benefits it has incurred from the occupation of the French and Maximillian.

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kernow62 says on Jun 7, 2005, 16:19:

Yes, I would say that Orlando is a bit of a dump, a cultural wasteland full of make believe.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 16:30:

So now you tell us, G'man! And how often do you get down to GDL?

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adrimm says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:21:

Shopping and tickets Juanalejo
Your *Colombian* niece hates shopping?! Wow!


Desi
Definitely get your kids out to see other parts. Cartagena, Taganga. Suggest a tour of the Amazon. As much as it pains me to admit it, Colombia is so much more than annoying old relatives (who specialise in ruining kiddie-trips and sticking their noses where they are unwanted).

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:08:

Such places?? The whole world has heard of Cartagena...but Tangita?? only know of one place where that is!!

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poco says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:17:

Long and Hard to get to Tangita: Is a small diving town near the Pipi island located in South East Asia.

Include a few days layover in Bangkok before you head out to pipi. I’d recommend the Hotel Phuket and resort. The diving is some of the best in the world. Great room service, especially the LBFM’s.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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Rubiazo says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:23:

I can't imagine anybody thinking that nightclubs are BETTER in the USA than in Colombia. Damn, are those kids going way out in the boonies or something?

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Lionheart says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:55:

my teen memories I got shipped to Germany as a 8 year old, I enjoyed returning to the states until my German was good enough that I prefered staying with my German friends. My parents kept sending me back to the USA for several weeks every year, I hated that, especially since I had to reclaim my turf everytime I got back.

My opinion changed once I had the oppotunity to assist a US cheerleader with her German lessons during one vacation ... the additional lesson I learned is that vacation adventures are a great pasttime. Once old enough to drive (18 in Germany) I traveled Europe extensively ... I must have gypsy blood in me.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 21:26:

Wow, everybody's got their story of being forced to go to some God-forsaken country. Good to see Mrs. Magoo is doing her part for posterity by sending the kids off. They arrived safely with their 6 suitcases full of loot to spread among the relatives. Their grandmother is driving up from Monteria to Medellin tomorrow to complete their misery. I think cattle going to the slaughterhouse have had more fun on their trip.

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ColombianoX says on Jun 7, 2005, 21:48:

Believe it or not, guys, there was a time when I myself didn't want to go to Colombia with my family on vacation. They convinced me to go and life was never the same after that.



ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 7, 2005, 23:51:

I should shipped my kids for 5 weeks to G5 hehehe ;-)

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morphus says on Jun 8, 2005, 00:16:

are these kids spoiled or what? i never seen kids that did'nt want to go on vacation. when i was a youngster my Latino friends used to be very happy to be going back to their countries for vacation.

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kernow62 says on Jun 8, 2005, 03:54:

kat1 you are cruel!

I shou kat1 you are cruel!

I should shipped my kids for 5 weeks to G5 hehehe ;-)

He will convert them to Republicans before you can say Guantanamo. They will come back home and want to invade Eastern Europe.

Don't do it, I implore you!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 05:01:

Don't panic Kernow, after 2 weeks with my kids G5 will find out that the safest place on earth is Colombia ;-)

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ElCheAmericano says on Jun 8, 2005, 06:45:

Utopia Maybe there is something wrong with your kids Or maybe its just me, I'd give my left nut to stay 5 straight weeks in Colombia. Me adding all my vacation time and personal days together I can barely manage a month in entire year. I'm so Colombia whipped I havnt even been to Argentnia since I was 6 yrs old, thats a damn shame if you ask me. But Colombia is closer the airfare is cheaper and I think the woman are hotter, so I guess I have my priorities straight.

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2005, 06:50:

Un Che... con corazon Colombiano. You and Gardel :)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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ElCheAmericano says on Jun 8, 2005, 08:10:

Hey Colombiche Leave Gardel out of this, just kidding. Any comparision to Gardel I would consider an honor.

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2005, 08:14:

Gardel Had a soft spot for Colombia in his heart. You should be honoured by the comparison, I would be.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 09:20:

yes, it's long overdue for me to take my kids to Colombia and show them around a bit. They don't like beaches or sports but would be fascinated by Cartagena's Old Town, Bogotá's museums and art exhibits, colonial towns like Villa de Leyva and of course, the magnificent scenery of the mountains. I doubt that I could get them go to the Amazon because my son-in-law is scared of snakes.

I'd also like to take them to San Agustin and Tierradentro, but it might not be a good idea since they would definitely feel aprehensive about the guerrillas and the outside chance of being kidnapped. It's all these limitations to moving around freely and going out unescorted that are stopping them. Besides, they feel that I've been nagging them to death about the necessity of going back and will not go to Colombia just because.
Cheers,
Desi

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 09:29:

My daughter would love to spend a year in Colombia, she loves it, but my son is the opposite, although he likes Colombia he rather stay in the UK with his friends. He is only 15 so his school friends means the world to him, He is inviting a friend to go to Colombia with him this year.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 10:27:

I used to threaten my kids by saying that if my daughter didn't behave herself I'd send her to Colombia to study with the nuns (intern) and my son to the military school. Maybe they still think of going to Colombia as a punishment?
Cheers,
Desi
(just wondering...)

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litost says on Jun 8, 2005, 10:37:

Desi, take your kids to the Eje Cafetero... they will love it and it´s very close to Cali.

Parque del Café, Salento, Valle del Cocora, Pereira, Termales de Santa Rosa de Cabal, Manizales (cultural city), Parque de los Nevados, coffee farms, rumba, extreme sports, whatever...

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 10:46:

We couldn't decided where to go on the summer holidays, Spain or Colombia, we decided Spain,2 against 2, My husband and son voted Spain, me and my daughter Colombia. We threw the coin on the air and Hola España. Well at least I am going to Colombia over christmast, no coins allowed :-)
I should do the same of UC's wife, send them to Colombia even if they scream their heart out. ;-)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 8, 2005, 11:01:

Hold on Now ! Kat1.....you are a very attractive woman. And....I am sure your kids are wonderful childeren. But, you have a husband, and you have a whole lot of family in Colombia and maybe in the UK too. Considering all that, I do not feel that I am in a position to take care of your beautiful children. There are many others in your life that can do a much better job than myself..

Now if YOU want to come to me with the children, than we have something to talk about. And as to Kernow's typically derogatory remark....I would not want him, his children or anything associated within that realm..

But you Kat1......are a totally different situation. Kernow would get fed to the Lions at the Zoo, and you would be treated with utmost repsect .... como una reina.....!!!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 11:16:

litost yes, el eje would definitely be one of the first choices, traveling from Cali. It shouldn't take more than, say maybe three hours to drive up there or maybe we ought to take a bus. I have a close friend who has a finca north of Sevilla, Valle and we once went there. My kids loved the place, the scenery is breathtakingly beautiful and with the increasing tourist facilities in the area I feel it would be quite safe. I've been to Manizales once but it was such a long time ago that I hardly remember what the city looked like. I just remember an old story about building the cathedral and the cura ketp stealing the money so the cathedral never got finished.
Cheers,
Desi

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 11:53:

I wonder if the lions like British beef? Kernow how tender are you ;-)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 8, 2005, 12:07:

Kernow ...tender???? That is like asking if sandpaper feels like silk. Comparing Kernow and tender beef is oxymoronic. It's a virtual impossibility.

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kernow62 says on Jun 8, 2005, 12:22:

I cried once.

Peeling an onion.

It was a touching moment.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2005, 12:24:

Lmao Kernow.

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