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She arrived in the states less than a month ago and she cooks everything in oil. She liberally uses oil when she cooks rice and soup then deep fries potatoes, beef, chicken, vegatables and eggs. She graciously cooks for us all and when I have mentioned to her to take it easy on the oil, she gives me a look like, "Hey, I know what I am doing." They cooked this way the times I have visited Colombia, but I was not aware they cook everything in it.
By bbattiste on Feb 14, 2006, 13:36 in Friendly Talkzone.
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vladimiro says on Feb 14, 2006, 14:02: I think you'll have to be patient My Colombian wife and in-laws like everything deep fried, too. I was surprised that even when going out to eat at a restaurant they insist on something fried as if they hadn't had enough deep fried food at home:)
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Colombian Services says on Feb 14, 2006, 14:42: When you marry a Colombian women and take her north you need patience, patience, and more patience. Bob - www.BogotaColombiaLodging.com - www.FlowersToColombia.com - www.Colombian-Services.com |
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 14, 2006, 15:00: DO YOU LIKE HER COOKING? engage brain before opening mouth |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on Feb 14, 2006, 15:02: If her parents and/or grandparents are reasonably thin and still going strong at age 80 or 90, you might be in for a tough fight!
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Monpirri says on Feb 14, 2006, 15:25: Yuca, Papa y Patacones Yuca, papa, patacones, buñuelos, empanadas.... all are deep-fried. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Mrblablazo says on Feb 14, 2006, 17:10: Just make sure she's using a "good" oil Like canola, for example, or olive (but it does impart taste), or corn, safflower, etc., as long as body weight is not an issue. Avoid oils high in saturated fats, like coconut, palm and palm kernel, and especially anything with hydrogenated or partially hydrgenated oils, otherwise known at trans fatty acids.
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. says on Feb 15, 2006, 00:57: Olive Oil Speaking in the another way round, I am Colombian who like cooking and vegetable oil used to be my cooking base, but my Sicilian wife was so clever to start buying me olive oil for cooking, and know, I cook just with olive oil.
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Rubiazo says on Feb 15, 2006, 01:14: Trichia in pork? Where the hell do you get your pork from? Haiti?
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Looking4Wife says on Feb 15, 2006, 06:22: I find this interesting. The women who cooked for me in Colombia, fried food was not a main staple. Typically they asked me what types of things I liked, and catered to my eating style. Also they would typically eat similar to me at restaurants. It so happens I am a vegetarian, but I do eat a lot of baked fish and shrimp. I do however love the fried plantains with my shrimp! Maybe I was lucky to get girls who were interested in healthier foods...?
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Lowell says on Feb 15, 2006, 06:29: my gut is killing me In the 5+ months of living here and trying to eat all the fried food and way over salted food, that my wife's mother prepares my gut was/is totally torn apart. I've showed her how to gril in stead of fry. How to bake/broil instead of fry..... No luck and no respect for my health and general well being. This is even after coming back with test reports of high diglicerides (sp?). 2 days ago I refused to eat anymore of the food. Are they pissed off? Yes. Is my gut already feeling better. Yes! This and other situations of a total lack of respect for me, my history, my needs, desires, my culture..... by my wife , her family and realitives has ruined all of any respect that I have for these people and has most likely ruined our marriage. Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?" |
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lpdiver says on Feb 15, 2006, 08:43: Hey Man You gotta die of something...maybe you can blast off in the saddle. "cook some rice!" |
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vladimiro says on Feb 15, 2006, 08:44: Give her time to acclamate..... It takes a couple years sometimes to acclamate to another culture, but she will eventually. For now, don't be surprised if you come home and see that your wife has pounded those expensive steaks you bought flat with a rock and deep fried them:)
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 15, 2006, 11:14: And my husband said that I am going to kill him because I don't cook huh! men engage brain before opening mouth |
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Rubiazo says on Feb 15, 2006, 15:54: My gf doesn't fry much at all. She has a really sensitive stomach and can't handle fried food. I was showing her different cooking techniques and she used them. She did the same for me. **DELETED: Please don't disparage someone's wife or family**
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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2006, 16:19: cheech and chong I expected MORE frying - or at least using more of the GOOD STUFF. What I mean is real butter and such. Instead the mother and sister of my friends do all of the cooking; with reduced fat butter, healthier types of foods, not really frying much of anything. They are in the minority I'm sure. "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008 |
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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2006, 16:33: but potatoes have eyes GB - I've heard the "I'm a vegetarian but I eat chicken" - those all make me laugh. "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008 |
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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2006, 17:08: to the OP "...She cooks everything in oil...She liberally uses oil...deep fries....They cooked this way the times I have visited Colombia, but I was not aware they cook everything in it."Sounds like you might have done the web/agency wife thing and only spent small amounts of time with her in person before the relocation. If yes consider yourself lucky that this is your only gripe - and hers. Did she cook healthy on some of the nights you were there? Why does she not ease up on the oil? Maybe she is trying to off you. If she starts asking about your life insurance policy I'd raise an eyebrow. "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008 |
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utopiacowboy says on Feb 15, 2006, 17:30: Yeah, that's his problem definitely. All he cared about was how she cooked in the bedroom instead of the kitchen. These web/agency relationships! What do you expect from these losers? Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. |
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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2006, 18:05: I love you to death Well, he's got his priorities straight - I just hope he sleeps with one eye open. "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008 |
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Jackcito says on Feb 16, 2006, 21:05: some vegies I am not a vegitarian but I dislike meat. Unfortunately that is what my Colombian family loves to eat. Whenever I go to Colombia I bring some Newman's salad dressing as a small gift. That way they make a salad with fruit in it with the dressing. Its a good trick!
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silviat says on Feb 16, 2006, 22:14: good advice jackcito... I think it applies to most women from every nationality... if you spend time and efforts cooking something, the last thing you want to hear is that it isn't good.
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jmw says on Feb 18, 2006, 06:36: Interesting... I say be very thankful that she will cook for you!!! Shoot, I know a few people that don't take the "feed him till he dies" approach. Believe me, this is much better than getting shot! :-)
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morphus says on Feb 18, 2006, 07:13: I used to be a lacto-ovo vegetarian; only milk and eggs. Its not the healthiest diet. Theres still a lot of fat and cholesterol. I tried being a vegan a couple of times but it seemed to decrease my sex drive. Now, I just eat whole grains, nuts, legumes, seafood, egg whites, skim milk and lots of fruits and vegtables. Olive oil is good if its cold pressed but once its heated, its not as good for you. Its still better than other oils though.
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Rubiazo says on Feb 18, 2006, 20:10: I love red met I generally eat it 3 times a day or more.
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DATAGRAMA says on Feb 18, 2006, 22:55: IT IS NOT WHAT YOU EAT IT IS THE AMOUNT THAT MAKES YOU FAT! SO EASY WITH.
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DATAGRAMA says on Feb 18, 2006, 22:55: IT IS NOT WHAT YOU EAT IT IS THE AMOUNT THAT MAKES YOU FAT! SO EASY WITH.
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viewpoint says on Feb 19, 2006, 06:15: Bbattiste You can take the woman out of Colombia but you can't take (and never will be able to) Colombia out of the woman. After seven (7) years my GF has ceased mixing mayonnaise with the vegtables but still mixes it with the boiled potatoes. She quit using mayonnaise on french fries for some new invention called ketchup.
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silviat says on Feb 19, 2006, 15:18: wow wow wow You must think we are of a violent kind.
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Monpirri says on Feb 19, 2006, 21:33: Where the hell do you get your pork from? Haiti? It has long been held that, in comparison to other meats, pork is comparatively less pure because of the scavenging and slothful life style of the animals from which it comes. In fact, some religions hold that swine are unclean and should not be consumed, lest they soil the consumer. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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psahlmann says on Feb 25, 2006, 10:13: easy suggestion to resolve if you know some recipes, then show her, cooking together Kind regards Patrick Hotel Sun City Best Place in Santa Marta www.sahlmann.net +57 54 211925 |
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harocha says on Feb 25, 2006, 13:35: Colombian Cusine Fried food is part of the typical Colombian cusine, but this does not mean that you "MUST" eat buñuelos, patacones, mojarra frita, carne frita, etc. every day of your life. I think the cook thecnics can change with a little bit of education about health, for example Morphus article is great, but you need more than that to convince a woman who has been cooking that way for her whole life. I sugesst that you introduce her somehow to a nutricionist and trainer, there is something you have in your favor and is the fact that "ALL WOMEN" like to look good, we don't want to be FAT and less atractive everyday because the fat rolls are growing more and more around our belly, so you can use that as the excuse, and both of you should join a nutricional program and/or a gym. You will be surprise the diference on the diet when she begins realizing that the food she is cooking is not good neither for her nor for you.
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Lionheart says on Feb 25, 2006, 21:58: read my comment as a cook in other thread I translated many regional Colombian recipes, none were fried, but still they are bland. How do you kill the flavor of a food? Deep-fry it.
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Monpirri says on Feb 26, 2006, 05:46: It is too bland?? Re: "Colombian cooking isn't very exciting, it is rather bland" Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Lionheart says on Feb 26, 2006, 07:22: culinary revolutions Sabores de Colombia
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silviat says on Feb 26, 2006, 13:36: simple or not It tastes delicious.
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silviat says on Feb 26, 2006, 13:38: Does anyone knows what that "color" is?
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Lucia Rojas says on Feb 26, 2006, 14:19: Check out Restaurante Mini Mal at 58 and 4th in Bogota... all those things that Lionheart is saying have been happening and are happening...of course they need to happen more.
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Rubiazo says on Feb 26, 2006, 15:40: Fried food does NOT have to be greasy nor bland. If it comes out all nasty and greasy it means the person cooking it didn't know what they were doing. Frying is actually the hardest cooking method to do PROPERLY.
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Monpirri says on Feb 26, 2006, 17:09: Artificial Color and Cheese are not necessary ingredients for great cooking. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Rubiazo says on Feb 26, 2006, 17:12: Interesting spelling up here I have always seen those words spelled 'oyama' and 'yuca'.
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Monpirri says on Feb 26, 2006, 17:23: Rubiazo I am going to have to agree with you on this one. Cooking with oil is an art. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Monpirri says on Feb 26, 2006, 17:29: Silviat I think is called Adobo Goya, all purpose seasoning. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Lionheart says on Feb 26, 2006, 21:07: the yellow spice It is called Annatto.
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Monpirri says on Feb 27, 2006, 04:54: Oh, yes Peru also Peru claims one of the finest cuisines in Latin America. They also have been having problems with exposure due to guerrilla wars. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Monpirri says on Feb 27, 2006, 05:05: Just in case you are interested in Peru Ajà is the basis of Peruvian cooking. I like it also. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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harocha says on Feb 27, 2006, 13:15: Achiote Lionheart is right Sylviat, I remember that my Grandmother used to call the "Color" achiote instead, she bought it on the tienda and put it to every single thing she made. =)
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Monpirri says on Feb 27, 2006, 23:04: Harocha and Lionheart Thanks to Lionheart who brought up this great thread about Annatto. (I'm burned out, I would like someone to help out translate the Spanish quotes below into English for educational purpose)
History about Colombia, Luis A. Barrios, Cultural Colombiana Ltda, Bogota, Colombia 5ht Edition -Third grade book.
Vestido http://pwp.supercabletv.net.co/garcru/colombia/Colombia/indios.html
Actualida Étnica Las mujeres de la tribu corrieron, la rodearon, la engalanaron; de la cintura para arriba tiñeron su cuerpo de rojo con tintura de achiote; de la cintura para abajo le colocaron una falda roja hecha con fibras sueltas de palma de chambira y le pusieron gargantillas, brazaletes y rodilleras, todas hechas con la fibra de la misma palma y pintadas de rono; con una hermosa corona de flores adornaron su cabeza y Pepita, ya convertida en mujer y capacitada para ser esposa, fue llevada a su aldea. http://www.etniasdecolombia.org/periodico_detalle.asp?cid=1472
Achiote was the basis of the indigenous cooking AjÃ, sal, achiote y ceniza eran los sazonadores básicos mientras que con tierra y lejÃa se implementaba la limpieza. Mucho de lo perecedero se conservaba ahumándolo y salándolo y las técnicas de cocción se reducÃan a hervir—sancochar—y a asar. http://html.rincondelvago.com/idiosincracia-cultural-en-colombia.html
In the indigenous language, 'Nonuya'from witoto family means achiote http://www.clubdeespanol.com/articulo_item.php?numero=128 Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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Monpirri says on Feb 27, 2006, 23:11: Achiote (Annatto) Cooking Achiote (Annatto) Cooking
“Tiny and virtually flavorless, annatto seeds, also known as achiote seeds, are commonly used throughout Latin America to add a distinctive reddish yellow color to sautéed foods.� Ingredients used in Colombian and Chilean cuisine are making their way into the U.S. market in specialty or Latin markets. McCausland said cumin and color, a yellowish powder made from achiote seeds used to season foods, are usually available, along with dried herbs-cilantro,culantro and guascas. Other products used heavily in Colombian cooking and found in the United States include panela, or crude sugar; plantains; and yuca or cassava, often sold pre-cut and frozen.
This site has Colombian dishes by regions and achiote. www.pwp.supercabletv.net.co/garcru/colombia/Colombia/comidas.html
Finally, for further details on achiote see comments posted by PBH members - May, 2005. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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silviat says on Mar 1, 2006, 15:55: so can you get it in the us? monpi I have the adobo already. I love it... I love its simple but so good flavor.
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Monpirri says on Mar 1, 2006, 17:29: Yes, Silviat You can find achiote and almost anything else that you will need to cook a typical Colombian dish. I am getting hungry too. Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008 |
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