MS-13 in Colombia

wcarmack says on Aug 22, 2007, 05:01:

Whatever the source of that my first instinct is: "On no, it is budget plotting time again in Washington and the various three lettered agencies are all going for some increases in budget by playing the contemporary theme of "we too are an important part of this effort, see look, at this situation". The goal, in my opinion, is to have some more debt creating federal dollars slopped into the trough.

Have you any pointers to the source material for your statement?

Woody

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scotty says on Aug 22, 2007, 05:14:

the sourse was a retired US General that says they have evidence that MS-13 is expanding, they are already set up in Mexico and all of central america, they have been sneaking into the US along with the illegal immigrants and have fanned out to various areas of the USA and hooking up with Al Quida cells.

They have also moved into Colombia and are embedding with groups there.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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El Polo says on Aug 22, 2007, 06:50:

Did you read an article over this Scotty? If so what is the link.

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gabolicious says on Aug 22, 2007, 06:55:

Mara Salvatrucha is one of the most dangerous gangs in Chiapas...

but I thought they only were setting up in Central America, Mexico and the US, never heard the same in Colombia... sad that colombian authorities are letting these criminals set up in Colombia.

Elección no canonización....

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miamimike says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:11:

Post a link Scotty,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:13:

Not only has M-13 joined Al-Qaeda but according to the National Review and FOX news the Martians from Uranus have also joined forces with Al-Qaeda to attack USA.
I’m getting the fok outta here and heading to Playa Cristal, I suggest all you guys do the same

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:23:

NOTTTT the hamsters??

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gabolicious says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:29:

good point esanch36... these guys will cut your head and play football with it....

don't know if it's true but people living in the south of Mexico say so... tal vez sea leyenda urbana...

but the truth is that media say that they are very dangerous... I've seen a couple of maras in Mexico City and believe I would not like to see 5 of these guys together in front of me...

Elección no canonización....

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miamimike says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:46:

They have moved into Miami in the Allapatah and Little Havana Neighborhoods where many Central Americans live. In the recent past a few have been picked up here on outstanding warrants from the LA area. Just what Miami needs to add to the excitement,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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El Polo says on Aug 22, 2007, 07:48:

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gabolicious says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:05:

ese tipo de basuras no creo que se puedan regenerar

Elección no canonización....

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Gator says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:06:

No link from "Scotty" Disregard.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

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toneloc24 says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:19:

PBSH strikes again!!! Let me guess. The source is the same "US general" who got attacked in Medellin a few months ago.

MS-13 is HUGE in California and the SouthWest USA, and spreading. That's established. Do something about that FIRST. We KNOW who the fuck they are, and where they are. What's the hold-up? I'm guessing the same reason why we still haven't merked out Bin Laden for attacking us, and why the US borders still aren't secured 6 yrs after 9/11. Politics.

Shouldn't this be more of a priority for the "US general's" sources than Colombia??? I swear these motherfuckers plot all kinds of shit to spend tax dollars to advance wargames and arms sales abroad. Even worse, people buy into it.

FARC and Al Qaeda and M-13 all in the same convo??? Hilarious.

Elmo, hope to see ya in Playa Cristal next week while these dudes are coming up with all kinds of crazy shit. LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:23:

I think there are lots of retired Generals and Colonels that love to get on CNN and Fox for a 30 second sound bite or a less than five minute interview. Maybe some of them are really smart, insightful guys but we'll never know it because TV news sucks.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:23:

tone, i'm not affraid of ms-13, Osama, Irak, Iran, farc but what really scares me are fokin Martians from the planet Uranus planning to attack usa
I'll meet you in playa cristal and hang there until the war is over.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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El Polo says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:24:

I agree Toneloc24 I think Scotty should have included Hugo Chavez, DR. Evil & Fat Bastard in this story.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:25:

fat bastard jajajajajjijjjjjjiji

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:28:

i think somebody better get in touch with "superman" or "captain America" this chit is getting dangerous.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:32:

maybe "underdog" or something. How about bat man and robin, any of you guys have that flashlight to point toward the NYC sklyline or gotham city to get their attention

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El Polo says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:33:

JAJAJA que vaina!!!

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panthdave says on Aug 22, 2007, 08:46:

Elmo making me laugh I love it...

panthdave Miami

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ColombianoGringo says on Aug 22, 2007, 09:43:

Those evil little midgets are certainly in Texas.

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msaucey says on Aug 22, 2007, 12:00:

I think I saw a documentary about the leader of MS13, and sure enough he was sitting in a nice Federal Prison, didn't look like he had a concern in the world.... My question is, if we have the main people in custody and they have been convicted (I'm sure for killing, drug traffic, etc.), why are they just sitting there, conducting business as usual... Gas them!... Then all of a sudden, we'll see that the leaders are down and all the MS13, will find amongst themselves...

Oh wait... Never mind.. That would be something sensible for us to do... Forgot, Federal Prison...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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toneloc24 says on Aug 22, 2007, 14:15:

Cassini, hopefully we just got another 17 months of this BS. Hang tight. The hijacking of the USA will be over. It's gotta be. Competence and common sense has gotta return to the presidency.

Bush and Cheney are pretty much lame ducks now. Both Tony Snow and Karl Rove even bailed out. The military is completely exhausted. Won't be any troops going anywhere anytime soon, nevermind Colombia. Now maybe some more "contractors" might be seen around, or a sudden "aid" package of arms to Colombia, but that's about it.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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scotty says on Aug 22, 2007, 15:07:

MS-13 began in Los Angeles from a group of EL Salvadorans years ago, the gang began to spread and also returned to El Salvador to set up leaderships.
Ms-13 is now throughout all of Central America and Mexico and the USA.
Recently they have been known to be embedding with Al Quida cells in the USA and other dangerous organizations in the USA. They have also moved into Colombia and are embedding with organizations there.
This gang is very dangerous and is growing daily, they have very few rules and they are not afraid of the law or goverments.
this was not a link this was a retired general and some other gang experts on TV

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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scotty says on Aug 22, 2007, 17:32:

yea i saw a documentary on Discovery channel and MS-13 just about runs El Salvador, even the prisons are run by them. They are much stronger than people realize.People have a bad habit especially Americans saying that "oh they are just another punk gang", but actually this gang is very big and growing and very strong, they are in every major city in the US, Mexico and Central America an now they are moving into Colombia.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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durito says on Aug 22, 2007, 20:12:

Common sense suggests it would be ridiculous for a gang to align itself with Al-qaeda.

Why does this retired general have any credibility? Does he offer any evidence to support his assertion?

The US gov't loves to make up ties between groups to further their agendas.

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Aaron21 says on Aug 22, 2007, 20:53:

The FBI's domestic focus has been gangs for the past five years. The reason for this focus is MS-13's and other gangs' perceived (whether accurate or not) alliances with Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. The reason for the alliances is, of course, money. MS-13 provides many services (arms, people smuggling, and intelligence amongst others) to the terrorist organizations in exchange for money. But you all don't need to worry about it - the FBI is on it!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL...

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scotty says on Aug 22, 2007, 21:13:

durito, well of course its not MS-13 or terrorist it must be the US goverment, how silly of me to believe a general when anyone can see its just something that the US goverment made up. how silly of me to actually think that there are al quida cells in the USA and that there are MS-13 gangs in the US and that they could possibly do some sort of embedding.
yea it must be another american thing.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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panthdave says on Aug 27, 2007, 03:27:

Rubito I really thought about that...but not famaliar with this kind of activity..and how they work..

panthdave Miami

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 27, 2007, 04:46:

Given the increasing drug use in Central America and Mexico and the fact that some traffickers are now being paid in drugs rather than cash, it wouldn't surprise me if the Central American gangs have already done business with the FARC, the AUC and the assorted cartels.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 27, 2007, 04:48:

It wouldn't surprise me if the FARC, the AUC or the various narcos in Colombia have done business with the Central American gangs. Maybe not in Colombia, but somewhere along the supply route.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 27, 2007, 05:36:

No way in hell Colombian capos are gonna be doing serious business, involving millions possibly billions of dollars, with some little guy with tattoos all over his fokin face who grew up in the gutters of el fokin Salvador, come on let’s be real! This is not some fokin movie when all the world criminals get together to take over the planet and then Agent Bruce Willis kills them all.
If you know anything about colombian narcos/paracos they look nothing like you see in the movies. The top capos look like any mild manner pudgy Colombian guy. To every hooker in Colombia I’m a fokin capo, to every capo, I’m a capo, that’s why nobody fucks with me. Just take a look a the Jorge 40, the Mancuso, Los Ochoas, los Hermanos Rodriquez orejuela can you see them sitting with a bunch of little 16 years old bullshit street gang throwing fokin finger signs up in the air with them. Come on!!!!
Thank you!!!!

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elmodefoque says on Aug 29, 2007, 05:58:

in the hills of medellin, bogota and jungles of cali there are hundreds of sicarios born every single day, capos don't need no stinking ms-13 from el salvador, honduras, costa rica, guatemala, where ever the fok they're from

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