Why PBH drives people away (and how do y'all have SO much time on your hands to be pricks like this?)

RAAAY says on Feb 12, 2008, 14:21:

Can you post pics of the hangers.........

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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robi666 says on Feb 12, 2008, 16:06:

Better if used.

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MaFe says on Feb 12, 2008, 16:39:

you guys are so bad...but funny!!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Peter Solano says on Feb 12, 2008, 20:16:

your items are probably worth $10 in total, if this is a serious post and not a joke, you would be better off giving it away to charity.Don`t know about other cities but in Barranquilla you get a free phone line from the metrotel and telefonica companies.And hangers are COL$2k/dozen.LOL.

Peter Solano: Tour guide/Interpreter. Email: petersolano@gmail.com. Skype handle: petersolano2007, Cell: 011 57 310 624 4078, Barranquilla, Colombia, S.A.

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alezzz says on Feb 13, 2008, 00:37:

I want the SIM card :-)

---Music is the strongest form of magic.---

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RAAAY says on Feb 13, 2008, 04:37:

I suspect Ken might go for the " some women's clothes "

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Robert Jorge says on Feb 13, 2008, 18:45:

You can sell the SIM card at a barrio tienda for 8.000 pesos. Everything else - just tell the neighbors to take what they want and dump the rest.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Robert Jorge says on Feb 13, 2008, 18:47:

The SIM card - being the only thing of any value - albeit very little - might be worth keeping if you think you might have the chance that you will ever visit Colombia again.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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adrimm says on Feb 13, 2008, 18:58:

I thought you were staying in Bogota for awhile? Maybe on LP, or maybe German would know of someone who is just settling in that will need some stuff.

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travelgoddess says on Feb 14, 2008, 14:16:

Nice one. And this would be WHY people complain about this site. hmmm.

posted a for sale sign cause I would rather sell them than dump them into a landfill. And since when do brand new blankets have zero worth?

You know what, forget it. I will find another place to post from now on, this is ridiculous.

Steph

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azunoman says on Feb 14, 2008, 14:56:

why not use craigslist...that have one for Colombia, but really not well used....

Ready, Fire, Aim

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travelgoddess says on Feb 14, 2008, 15:47:

Yeah, think you answered your own question there.

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adrimm says on Feb 14, 2008, 17:15:

Travelgoddessm - Best wishes with your move, I am sure that you will find *someone* interested in practically new items. If I were there I would be!!!!

You would think that this would be the site to post such an inquiry.. I would have too.

...While I think that Peter really wants for this to become a travel site, the reality is that the majority of posters here aren't backpackers or strict budget types... Although to give Peter due credit I think that we are definitely getting more backpackers coming through

This site is a decade old, and while it might be hard to believe, there was a time when posters were mostly respectful and helpful. Unfortunately times have changed, and we have alot of people now who must be too bored to actually be helpful.

What doesn't help is that most Colombians themselves aren't generally too interested in second hand items, aside from larger things like cars etc... but of course one would hope that a fellow-traveller or foreigner would be interested...

ah well.

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mranderson says on Feb 14, 2008, 17:44:

Travelgoddess what city are you selling in? I might be interested in a blanket if it's cheap enough. What else are you selling?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 15, 2008, 00:27:

I've had two going-away sales in Colombia (one for myself and my family and one for my brother) both practically sold out. We put ads in the local newspaper (El Pais ) and at schools where we worked and my cheapo brother sold away even his old shoes! We sold ALL our reading in English, National Geographic magazines, dictionaries, novels whatever, basically everything, except some larger items that we didn't feel like selling cheap (we were attached to them) so we gave them to relatives.

I can't believe the snotty answers and remarks you've got. This IS a travel forum and not all the travelers are type "don't Colombians know what a REAL mattress looks like". This place is full of backpackers, English teachers, people struggling to make it good in Colombia but they don't sem to be the ones that have most free time to write.

Best of luck to you,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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travelgoddess says on Feb 15, 2008, 07:21:

Thank you for the kind posts after the deletion.
Steph

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mranderson says on Feb 15, 2008, 07:38:

So travelgoddess have you sold all your stuff? I'm interested to see what you have for sale but only if you're in medellin.

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:30:

I think maybe everyone took the "humorous" comments a little too seriously. There were some funny thoughts there.....maybe I'm mistaken, but I think the guys were just being amusing, not necessarily assholes. or maybe my sense of humor is sick. equal possiblities, both.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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morphus says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:42:

A little humor is good. Otherwise people would'nt tune in as much.

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billyb says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:50:

slguy, I'd go with the "sick" option ;))

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:06:

I was hoping to slide that one by with no agreements.....obviously, a dream. jajajajajjaa

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dwr says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:10:

Common. A foreigner in Colombia selling two blankets, coat hangers and a sim card. That is begging for a hard time.

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mranderson says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:25:

That's all she was selling? lol

What about the women's clothing? I think most people give used clothing to the church.

Actually I could use a couple more coat hangers but I can go downtown and buy them on the street for 2k pesos a dozen as peter solano pointed out. I'd be willing to accept the coat hangers as a gift, otherwise it's probably not worth it.

No takers on the sim card?? Seems the way some people get upset about giving a fingerprint to buy one that it would be easy to sell that to another foriegner.

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billyb says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:34:

I've got some old socks and and underwear for sale if anybody is interested.

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mranderson says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:37:

Do your socks have fashion holes in them?

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CatGirl says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:38:

Travelgoddess: I just noted you changed the title of your post and it looks like you have made your point -LOL

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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billyb says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:44:

Uhhh, somebody is a bit touchy today, LOL.. I always find time to be a pr!ck ;)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 00:34:

Duly noted, billyb.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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billyb says on Feb 16, 2008, 00:47:

jaja, desi, that hurts. what time is it in the north pole? BTW, i saw your blonde with the bangs look-alike at the reunion pic, jeje.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 00:55:

It's 9:52 a.m. ....having breakfast with you guys again... (BTW I didn't say the p-word, you did!)

Cheers,

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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mranderson says on Feb 16, 2008, 06:29:

wow, travelgoddess are you extremely uptight or what?

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 06:32:

I think she's worried that her, ummm., hangers are less than photogenic.

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huskie says on Feb 16, 2008, 06:38:

Some of these people here, you know who you are, are really p******s with nothing else to do but berate, cuss, disrespect and so forth....grow up!!! Can't you be kinder to others?
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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tomtom33 says on Feb 16, 2008, 08:05:

Life is a lot easier if you can lighten up. There will always be pricks. Why allow them any power over you? Some pricks, however, can be quite funny.

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gringoloid says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:04:

we've been accused of being well heeled, monied, sex tourists; we use our massive wealth here in colombia as an edge for some easy slap and tickle with colombianas. i guess that's the claim of some disgruntled gringas here.

so we may not be looking for any blue light specials. something like this could give us a bad name. could you imagine walking around with a simm card looking for a phone.

it would be slam the ham that night.

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mranderson says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:07:

I don't even understand what was so bad in the comments of this post? People are being accused of being pricks and childish and all that. Perhaps the poster is just too uptight about everything? I didn't read the original post because it was deleted before I could but maybe it was nonsense or ridiculous? I think anyone who gets upset or bent out of shape from the comments here has some other issues they need to deal with.

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adrimm says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:28:

Well lets see who actually gave her a useful response?

She's looking for someone to purchase some relatively new things from her - how many offered?

Considering that PBH presumabely has travellers and people new to Colombia from elsewhere, who may be looking to buy ordinary little neccessities, I think she is rightly PO'd at a getting a bunch of smart ass comments.

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:32:

anyone who posts anything here, and is shocked/surprised at receiving smartassed replies hasn't done much reading here before they posted, now have they? jajajajajajajaja

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adrimm says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:51:

From the top of the forum:

"Colombia is one of South America's hidden treasures. It's still off the beaten track, so you won''t run into hordes of fellow travellers - now is the time to go. The internal war continues, but it's safe to travel as long as you avoid certain areas, and there are loads of places to discover, from a jungle trek to the Ciudad Perdida to the sandy beaches of Parque Tayrona to the snowcapped mountains of the Parque de los Nevados, and of course, the Colombians themselves."


From the bottom of the forum:


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Now slguy, How many of the posters here do you think have even read the intro and sitemap? What on earth makes you so certain that she is should have expected smartass comments? When it comes down to it, who holds the keys? the site is Peter's and all of us are visitors. How many are being supportive with his goals of making it a useful site for travellers?


How many of people are contributing in a positive way to meet the site goals of being a useful infortmation place? How many people are abusing it? Hmm?

I stand by my assessment that she is rightfully PO'd and congratulate her for letting it be known.

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billyb says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:59:

I agree with Mranderson, anybody that gets that bent out of shape (like a used coat hanger?), over some smartass comments has bigger issues to deal with. She's moving to Chile, so she was gone anyways.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 17:02:

I agree with adrimm.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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mranderson says on Feb 16, 2008, 17:07:

PO'd at what? And why can't she defend a simple smartass comment? I didn't see any bad comments above but then again I'm easy going and don't get upset over stupid little things on an internet forum. But anyway, congradulations at getting po'd at what I call nothing.

I still can't figure out what was so bad in the comments. I think I'm of average intelligence.

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mranderson says on Feb 16, 2008, 17:19:

Title of the post - "Why PBH drives people away (and how do y'all have SO much time on your hands to be pricks like this?)"

Followed by 4 dots?? Does the poster care to elaborate on this? Maybe with an example or 2? I would like to know why. Why didn't the poster just ask a moderator to delete the post?

Anyway...good job

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 17:44:

It ain't working, medob.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 17:50:

so stand by your assessment, adrimm. wouldn't occur to me to try and change your mind. I was just adding another smartassed comment.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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billyb says on Feb 17, 2008, 00:43:

"How many of people are contributing in a positive way to meet the site goals of being a useful infortmation place? How many people are abusing it? Hmm?

I stand by my assessment that she is rightfully PO'd and congratulate her for letting it be known."

she posted for a couple of days while she was in Colombia, and now that she's moving to Chile you wont hear a peep from her again. So Adrimm, did she contribute more to PBH than those of us that gave her a little sh!t, but have posted for a while and will continue regardless of where we are living???? I say good riddance.

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azunoman says on Feb 17, 2008, 09:29:

back to my craigslist theory, post where appropriate...

How about I give you top money, (as I am happy but as of yet not poor, working on that)....payable upon my arrival Friday, to put all the stuff in a pile, and set fire to it...

I assume one can have open fires in Colombia...

Or better idea, trade it for some good Colombian coffee, my understanding is that Chile uses Nescafe.

Ready, Fire, Aim

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GregYohn says on Feb 18, 2008, 06:08:

Hola!

Psst, I know another Colombian Blog that might be nicer. I think since most of the posters are all men, civility has broken down.

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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vicshere says on Feb 18, 2008, 07:45:

the OP is correct .....I think she posted in good faith...but the norm here is to attack and belittle people first ..some thing you don't see as much over at CB

listo

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goin_south says on May 26, 2008, 01:10:

It's a tough crowd, Vic;
Only the strong survive... jje

I'D RATHER BE.........IN COLOMBIA :-)).... (No Quiero Conozco Gustav)...(TEMPORARY NAME CHANGE: RUNNIN_NORTH! JEJE!!!)

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