Mono JoyJoy and Tirofijo

Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 23, 2003, 10:57:

Farc FARC both. Tirofijo is Manuel Marulanda, the ancient leader of the Farcs. Mono Jojoy (don't remember his real name) is one of his most ruthless subalterns.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Peter (Moderator) says on Dec 23, 2003, 11:04:

Bert Ruiz, author of the Colombian Civil War, talks about Tirofijo (Sureshot) at bertruiz.com:

Sureshot and his 14 cousins became guerrillas in the late 1940’s

Sureshot has been fighting the government most all of his adult life. He started out a communist but now has his own home grown socialist ideology. He is still a wanted man and has been subjected to hundreds of manhunts. One mammoth Colombian manhunt on June 14, 1964 was called “Operación Cabeza.� It included 20,000 soldiers, the Air Force’s entire fleet of Iroquois helicopters and an elite group of American military advisors. They failed to kill Sureshot. But instead annihilated 100 poor farming families in the tiny village of Marquetalia about 200 kilometers southwest of Bogotá. Sureshot vowed to got even. It took him 34 years to make good on his word. But on November 1, 1998 the FARC conducted the boldest offensive in the history of Colombia. One thousand heavily armed guerrillas took over the frontier city of Mitú in broad daylight and dared the government to oust them. After three days the FARC waltzed out of the city of 15,000 inhabitants after emptying the vault of the major bank in Mitú of $400,000. Sureshot named the FARC operation Marquetalia. The glaring incompetence of the government’s armed forces in Mitú convinced the Clinton White House to launch Plan Colombia.


Sureshot unites the peasants in the countryside

Do not underestimate Sureshot. The man is brilliant. He single handedly took a rag tag group of poor illiterate peasants in the countryside and taught them to abandon the “mentalidad mendicante� or beggars mentality. He also taught them to stop being subordinates to the rich and to fight. In essence, Sureshot has instructed the poor how to deal with Colombia’s savage intimacy with violence. Colombia has already had three bitter civil wars, the first in 1839, the second in 1899 and the last in 1948. In each civil war the government's forces butchered thousands of peasants. Hence, the FARC creation of the army of the people. Leaders in Washington fail to ask why the FARC exists. If they took the trouble to do so they will find the long tradition of government brutality of peasants in Colombia is responsible for the creation of the FARC. To that end, the current civil war is only starting to hit the cities. The seven man “Secretariado� of the FARC, which includes Sureshot and Mono Jojoy, have declared they want to bring the war to the doorsteps of the rich. The battle plan is to slowly bleed the rich in the nation to death. Ultimately they plan to unite the millions of poor in the big cities with the poor in the countryside. All in all, the FARC admits it will be a long war of attrition because at the moment their ranks are too small to challenge for power.

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sebasenbogotá says on Dec 23, 2003, 11:13:

I wish the same I totally agree with your girlfriend, they are a great part of the problem in Colombia, not all tought. I wish they can be captured, or they finally will realize that they are fighting a stupid war, they are filthy rich thanks to the drugs that they are managing, so its quite complex to finish this "economical" conflict, because it is not anymore a ideological one.

Sebas Ocampo
Proud to be a Colombian

Suerte ! Sebas

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ColombianoX says on Dec 28, 2003, 21:22:

Tirofijo and el Mono Jojoy are first-rate scum. These people are downright evil and I (along with most of Colombia) can't wait to see the day when they're captured!

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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Peter (Moderator) says on Dec 29, 2003, 04:15:

More to it than meets the eye As the man says, the FARC was born out of need for the peasants to fight back against the murderous authoritarian state.

That they are now run by drug smugglers and profiteers does their cause no good, neither does killing of innocent people.

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joeylove007 says on Dec 30, 2003, 22:38:

Justice always prevails. ALL who have done terror, injustice, murder wheather small or big, rich or poor, government or anti-government Always lose. "Vengence is mine says the Lord".

Trust no one...except God. Hope to retire in Colombia

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TioCharlie says on Jan 15, 2004, 16:17:

Mono JoJoy' s real name is Jorge Briceño

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 15, 2004, 18:54:

your answer YES they are the most dispiteable human beings in the plane for every bomb that they have planted in my homland. if had those 2 sons of bithces in front of me i would cry with hate and shoot theyr legs until they cant feel them, also i would puch them, break theyr nose and every bone in the face, finaly i would hang em in front of the people of San Vicente del caguan so they could spit at theyr misserable corpses for all they have done.
if u talk to any colombian about this ass holes u may be able to see the hatret towards them, and remember we will bust em, and i hope they suffer in terrrible paine for all of the devastation, mass murders that they have caused to my people.
so that is the answer. tiro fijo and the Mono Jojoy are the 2 most important leaders of the FARC and ELN they have benn torturing us for over 40 years and mono jojoy dares to cary the colombian flag in his arm if i was to kill him that would be my trophy. the colombian falg he is carying.

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SiV says on Feb 7, 2004, 08:43:

Tio Charlie . . . . . Jorge Briceño and Manuel Marulanda are not their real names, but "nombres de guerra"; alias that all the guerrilla adopt supposedly to protect their real identities and their families. Although, in the most famous leaders´ cases, their true names are common knowledge (Marulanda´s is Pedro Antonio Marin Marin, I think, though I can´t remember Jojoy´s at this moment in time).

Stultórum númere infinitum est.

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