Miami is OUT, Las Vegas IN

umm says on Jan 11, 2005, 06:36:

Is this forum about Colombia or that gringo country far up in the north?

Who wants to go to Las Vergas, not me.

UMM

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Miamigo says on Jan 11, 2005, 06:53:

I admit there seem to be more brothers nowadays in South Beach, but they're mostly just middle-class thug-life wannabes or just middle-class kids and completely harmless.

If you don't want to hang out with them, there are plenty of places in South Beach that they don't go to. And plenty of places that will allow you to get your Latin groove thang on.

Las Vegas gets cold in the winter and has no beach. And tell me where else in the US but in South Beach can you walk to a restaurant and order bandeja paisa???

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Miamigo says on Jan 11, 2005, 06:55:

umm I thought this forum was about CHINA!

Colombia is in Latin America and we all know that Miami is the capital of Latin America.

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toneloc24 says on Jan 11, 2005, 06:58:

Greg444 Please stay in Idaho or Montana...or even Germany.

There are many racial overtones to your statements, both to blacks and latinos. If race is an issue with you, perhaps stay out of Colombia, as apparently the people there probably won't measure up to your "class" standards.

Why do you even post here? There are many neo-Nazi sites available for those who want to be around the "hip" crowd.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 11, 2005, 07:10:

Hear that, gang. The Latin thing is over. I guess it's time for me to dump my wife. It was just a fad.

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Greg444 says on Jan 11, 2005, 07:11:

I am just warning latinas, Miami will not be like the ads you see in the travel magazines or TV, and in the copies American Airlines Magazine on the plane.

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Miamigo says on Jan 11, 2005, 07:17:

Dude, Miami is not just South Beach, even if your aversion to morenos makes you think the sight of a bunch of them in South Beach means the place is overrun with them.

There are plenty of other areas of Miami with a heavy and even upscale Latin scene. Coral Gables for one. Hell, even where Shaq plays in the American Airlines Arena there's a restaurant/club called Bongo's which is nominally Cuban but a great place to rumbear.

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Rikito says on Jan 11, 2005, 07:28:

Dude, you have a serious problem I do not know where you are from or what your nationality is, but where I come from your orignal comment is nothing short of racist. Better grow up or you are going to be a very unhappy person.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2005, 07:29:

Tone, I double that!!! Man, this dude has serious issues. I’ve been visiting Miami since 1978, and I think is only getting better, especially if you like all that clubbing and night life. My kids can’t get enough of that place, and you know how we grow up in NYC. if you have problems with “other” people, get the f—k out and take your ass to Idaho.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2005, 08:42:

Greg-Cut Us Some Slack !! Hey Greg444-Have mercy on us!! Man, its not all Bad here in Miami. Hey-here's something bet you don't know about Shaq-He is also a Real Reserve Miami Police Officer(goes out on Patrol with REAL policemen and packs a Glock FYI-rare sports figure)Miami is just not South Beach-I won't even go there-tourist trap with high prices)so I agree with you for the most part about South Beach-lousy, nonexistent parking also on SB, but there's lots of other places then SB. Tons of restaurants, Nightclubs of any variety, gyms,libraries. Been to the Everglades National Park just south of Homestead???-great park and Big! How about Bayside(by downtown miami)?? Lots of nice things there!! Check out the Mickasoukkee Casino--great boxing matches--gen. adm tickets for $15 for 6 fights--sometimes Don King or the likes are there.Lots of other clubs 5-10 minutes east of the casino or farther south in Kendall. Like Topless-go to Tootsies--on 7th ave. north-across from Peterson's Harley Davidson on 441 north(5 min south of pro-player stadium)All of Miami cannot be as you described it-Remember, a short time ago the First Presidental Debates were held at the Univ. of Miami in Coral Gables and if it was all bad as you described it to be--George W Bush or J.Kerry would not have stepped foot into Miami!!! If you want nice, uncrowded beaches-go North on Collins to Surfside--from 80st ave. to 95th st.Great Clean Beach!

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caslug says on Jan 11, 2005, 08:54:

Greg, aren't you the same dude.. that bitched about Medellin women? Now we see why. BTW, u right that many latinos/hispanics are moving to LV, guest what... MANY OTHER people are also moving there. From all races & places around the US & the world. GUESS WHY? It's not becuse it's hip, it's because it has jobs! Duh! My buddy is moving out there w/ his wife, they talked w/ a real estate agent, he said that house that SIX MONTHS ago were selling for 160k, now go for 350k. I was just out there couple of months ago for work, and they have HUGE asian-style malls, rival chinatown/litte tokyo of LA or SF.

Your comment about latinos immigrants needing more money to "shelter" them, is true FOR ANY part of the US now. EVERYTHING in the US is more expensive that BEFORE. Not just in Miami, looks like you took good observation and threw in some wacky racial issue without thinking. Hopefully you're well meaning, but ignorant. America now seems to care LESS about race BUT more class base. If you have money, you live well, IF you don't money, you're living in the ghetto with all the other poor folks regardless of your national or racial background.

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viewpoint says on Jan 11, 2005, 09:13:

Greg444 You really are a piece of human _______. The black people have more class in there little finger than you will ever have in your life. If anything you are just a jealous person because the blacks and latinos drive the nice cars, wear the nice clothes and have the most beautiful women while you can't find a woman in Medellin.

For anyone that cares your post here answered all the questions we ever had about why you couldn't find a woman in Medellin. The Medellin women knew a LOSER when they met one in YOU !!!! God bless the women of Medellin for their good insight you ________!

In case you never noticed during your one day visit to latin america, Latinos come in all colors white, black, and brown plus all colors in between. They were able to sort you out for what you truely are, a racist. The most friendly and nice people I every met in Colombia where in Quibdo, Choco where they are almost totally all black.

Maybe you could spend a year or two with the people of Choco and mature into a more considerate person. Right now I am on a caribbean island surrounded by 65% african blacks and 25% hispanics from the DR and PR (of all colors) with the minority of 10% whites (including me). My best friends are the blacks and hispanics who have treated me as one of their own as opposed to the whites dwelling on their self importance.

Finally, the american flag flies here and many of the sons and daughters of these african black and hispanic people are stationed in IRAQ fighting along with other american nationalities for the freedom that enables you to write your garbage.

If there is that many blacks in Miami I think I will buy a home there too and hang out with my brothers. jajajajaja

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Greg444 says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:04:

Miami South Beach was good , before all Black Brother influence took over.
Try going to SouthBeach on a Sunday Afternoon, 50% black is an understatment, ghetto blasting hiphop drowning out everything.
That club near the Clevelander is a joke.



By the way, I have amigas 4 Colombian cities, including Medellin, my comment about Medellin, is that is was overated when compared to other cities in Colombia.




Also whether women in Bogota and Medellin prefer to hang with and marry black men, well that is a subject of a different thread. I already know the answer.

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ARMacleod says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:14:

Dump her! Dump her? I think you mean in the light of global warming, fuel shortages you must mean 'recycle' her?

Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions. ¡El diablo me hizo lo hago! But don't worry, be happy.

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ColombianoX says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:22:

"Colombia is in Latin America and we all know that Miami is the capital of Latin America."

Miamigo,

What makes you think that some city located in a non-latin nation is the capital of latin america? Miami may be the latin capital of the USA, but not Latin America! The mere suggestion is insulting. Latin America does not have any one capital, it has many great capitals: Bogota, Buenos Aires, Caracas, Mexico City, Lima, etc.


ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Hispanidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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viewpoint says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:29:

Greg444 Quote:

"Also whether women in Bogota and Medellin prefer to hang with and marry black men, well that is a subject of a different thread. I already know the answer."

Well I think there are certainly plenty of beautiful black women in Medellin and Bogota for the black men to marry if any one was counting colors. After all, 20% of Colombia's population is black. I was born color blind so I have never had to separate people by the color of their skin.

The women I have met in Colombia are mostly interested in meeting and marrying a man of any color and not a boy.

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viewpoint says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:34:

ColombianoX la Defensor You forgot Panama City on your list !!!

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ColombianoX says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:37:

"You forgot Panama City on your list !!!"


You're right, how could I have forgotten Panama City?! A great city without a doubt!

Saludes,

CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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Greg444 says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:48:

My comments are not directed at the color of the person's skin, if the same people who brought down Miami were white, I would say the same thing.




MiamiMike, thanks for the rundown, unfortunately the die has already been cast starting a couple years ago, Miami is out would be the saying. Just like clubs come and go within a city.

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greenday says on Jan 11, 2005, 10:56:

miamigo Miamigo below is a quote of yours from earlier:

"Las Vegas gets cold in the winter and has no beach. And tell me where else in the US but in South Beach can you walk to a restaurant and order bandeja paisa???"

Do you mean to tell me that South Beach has the only restaurant in the US where you can order Bandeja Paisa?? That's very interesting........It seems that Greg isn't the only one who has serious issues. The more I read this forum, the more I believe that some posters have so much time on their hands that they just make outrageous and idiotic posts out of boredom. Remember I said some, not all.
Man that Bandeja Paisa was good last week...thank God I didn't have to fly to Miami to enjoy it. I guess now there are two places in the US where one can enjoy Bandeja Paisa......anybody know where I can go to get some good sancocho de gallina?? of course besides South Beach??

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G-Capo says on Jan 11, 2005, 11:08:

Why do latin girls? Why do latin girls well in my high school all go out with those thug-life-wannabe-tupac,people and it's just gets me pissed.I'am, friends with them and they tell me they just go out with them because of there ass lol and some other bodily features and those girls get degrated on because those wannabes slep there ass and stuff and there all like stop and stuff and I'am just like she had it coming.

I'am not rascist I'am just wondering why date a tupac wannabe when you can go out with a man from your own race which won't dump you when your pregnant and never see him again?

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Miamigo says on Jan 11, 2005, 11:18:

Not just me, ColombianoX Can you Google? Then Google here and you'll see that I didn't make this "Miami is the capital of Latin America" thing up.

In addition to Caracas, you named all four of the old virreinatos. Times change. Get with it. You'll find peruanos in Lima, colombianos in Bogotá, mejicanos in Mexico City, and argentinos in Buenos Aires (oops, I meant "el Virreinato del Rio de la Plata"), but only in Miami will you find all of these people together in one overwhelmingly Latin American city.

greenday -- you seemed to miss the word "walk" in my post. Can you walk from whereever you it is you live in the U.S. to a restaurant that has bandeja paisa? I can, and to more than one. That was my point.

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viewpoint says on Jan 11, 2005, 11:35:

Miamigo I think that the term "Miami is the financial capital of Latin America" is a more correct terminology that could be successfully argued especially regarding the private capital from Latin Americas wealthy. Maybe this has been less of a haven during the past few years because of the declining value of the US dollar vs. other currencies but there is certainly a lot of Latin American wealth parked in Miami.

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greenday says on Jan 11, 2005, 11:42:

miamigo Yes, I can walk to my colombian restaurant and get bandeja paisa. I've stayed in south beach many times (The Raleigh) and couldn't find a colombian restaurant within walking distance. Maybe you can recommend one. Just make it close to The Raleigh, OK??

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justino says on Jan 11, 2005, 12:08:

South Beach I won't back the racist undertones, but will say it's a fact that ON THE STREET in South Beach along Collins and Ocean at night ghetto culture does rule. The majority or at least the largest minority ON THE STREET is black, not latin. Ghetto/thug culture, unlike latin culture, is generally unfriendly toward outsiders. However, people of all skin colors do mix quite well on South Beach. Maybe not mix so much - more like co-exist.

You do have to watch your back on South Beach like any other city. And if you make eye contact with a hard punk gangsta looking kid that seems to be staring you down give him the reverse-nod and the "whazzup". Chances are he'll say hi back to you. Nice people come in all colors, cultures and dresses. You just have to take the initiative and break the communication barriers, because it's not part of their culture to be welcoming or outwardly friendly towards outsiders - especially white outsiders.

To be honest though, I do very much prefer to be not surrounded by the ghetto culture. I'd rather be surrounded by people that go out of their way to be friendly. People like me not in skin color, but in spirit and mentality. Who wouldn't? I couldn't live on that side of South Beach. Maybe the bay side of South Beach. Maybe Coral Gables... definitely Key Biscayne, but who could afford it?

G-Capo, it sounds like you got some of that like Tupac talk down pretty well yourself and stuff. Maybe you just need more baggy clothes and more bling bling, and you'd be baggin them ho's too, youknownwhamsayin? ;)

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2005, 12:17:

you guys should watch a movie called "Malibu Most Wanted" with jamie kennedy to get with the program. that is one funny freaking movie! i'm going home! chaooo

I'll get there, when I get there!

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nanis says on Jan 11, 2005, 12:21:

justino are you colombian? have you ever been to cali? and are you black for any chance? it sounds like you are anyways i come from a black family too and as for the watch you backs hey we all live like that in colombia don't we? i'm from one of the poorest neighbourhoods in cali and the violence there is the worst, i grew up and lived there for a long time so i sure know how to watch my back and as for the gangsta talk... that wouldn't work in my hood! ok i know we're talking about miami but in cali they wouldn't give a sh*t about no gangsta talk, bling bling or baggy clothes they will shot you first without even giving you the chance to say "whazzup"! attitude don't work there no more... guns do!

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justino says on Jan 11, 2005, 12:44:

Mrs. Gomez Actually I'm a short, blonde white guy (think surfer dude). Being born in 1978 and living in middle class USA in central Florida, I grew up with friends from all sorts of races and cultures, and learned to be sort of a chameleon when it comes to human interaction. It helped me relate to people and helped people relate to me. I'm sure my suggested techniques wouldn't be of much good in a truly agressive dog-eat-dog environment. I avoid those. South Beach is not such a place, and that's really the point I was trying to make. You have the most interesting posts, Mrs. Gomez! :)

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nanis says on Jan 11, 2005, 12:55:

thanks justino i'm in the process of moving to miami soon and i hope that i can meet people as friendly as you but if i don't well that wouldn't make much difference because where i live now people are plain miserable

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kernow62 says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:03:

Hey Greenday come visit in Orlando, there is a place called Gloria's Cafe that makes the best sancocho de gallina I have ever had and that included the couple of times I had it in Colombia. Although I am sure if I spent more time in Colombia I could have tracked down better stuff. Unfortunately Gloria only makes it on Sunday and there is a line.

There are at least 20 Colombian restaurants in the area and a couple of mobile Colombian restaurants in stepvans that briing the restaurant to you.

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Greg444 says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:14:

Mrs Gomez, look into Las Veags before you commit to Miami.

Las Vegas is where its at now, full full of young crowd, lots of work, mamy activities. Worth a look.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:24:

Thanks, Greg. Miami is now the American equivalent of Medellin. I guess it was one more city where the gringo millionaires couldn't get laid. They'll certainly do better in Vegas, at least in Pahrump they will.

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Lionheart says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:33:

Pahrump is a fine choice Everything is owned by Charlie. I saw Charlie Street, Charlie's Gas, Charlie's General Store, Charlie's airport, etc. I think Charlie was the wooden Indian on the porch of the store. Be friends with Charlie and you have a safe life. If he doesn't like you ... Death Valley is close.

Tonopah ain't bad either.

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toneloc24 says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:38:

Mrs. Gomez Ignore this dude. Go and enjoy Miami.

After being encamped in London for however long it's been for you, why in the hell would you move somewhere where it gets to be 105 and there's no beach for hours? Pools aren't the same. At least Barranquilla has breezes!!! Miami offers many things, esp. for a Latina coming here to the USA for the 1st time.

After your 1st month of the glamour and glitz of the strip and downtown LV, the complete plasticness of LV will probably wear on you. You'll still have some of the same type of people in Miami. But at least in Miami, you'll be amongst Latinos of all kinds (rich/poor, hip/FOB, etc.), and won't have to search for that experience.

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justino says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:55:

Mrs. Gomez I spent two months in Miami last year and met some great people. No doubt you can too. The secret to living there is to focus on what you have, not what you don't have. Most latin people I know are good at that. You'll love the fact that there's no winter. You'll love the fact that you can be well entertained all day at the beach for FREE. When you get sick of the hustle and bustle of South Beach's beach, you drive 10 minutes to Key Biscayne and you're in a virgin tropical beach paradise. Concentrate on the good things and the good people and you'll have a great life in Miami.

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Miamigo says on Jan 11, 2005, 13:55:

greenday You stayed at the Raleigh and you didn't know that one of the Beach's first Colombian restaurants is only five blocks away? That's walking distance! Next time check out Mama Vieja, on 23rd Street right off of Collins (the Raleigh is at 18th and Collins). At some point in time, they started serving Colombian food, but it's still primarily Colombian. They even broadcast Srta. Colombia live via satellite a few weeks back.

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Neonovo says on Jan 11, 2005, 14:15:

Das Kapital Latin America does not have any one capital, it has many great capitals: Except one; Buenos Aires, the capital of Europa. Ask any argentino.

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kernow62 says on Jan 11, 2005, 14:58:

Wow I haven't been to Mama Vieja for a while, they didn't serve Mexican food then. Watched a few good football matches on the big screen.

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ReinaDeLa Baile says on Jan 11, 2005, 15:36:

Miami rocks Mrs. G - don't pay too much heed to this self-selected president for the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce.

I've been there many times on business trips, and loath it.

As for Miami, I go there frequently and enjoy it. I stay in South Beach. Yes there are a few thugs, but not on Lincoln. Espanola Way is cool, nice french cafe and a groovy yoga studio, Wild Oats health food store, tons of great places to dance (for fun or for cash), and beaches where you can wear a tanga with no top.

I will say that Calle Ocho is, in my humble opinion, over-rated. But nothing beats renting a caonvertible and driving down route one to Key West for a few days, stop in at Bahia Honda beach - a real treat.

Enjoy!

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goosekirk says on Jan 11, 2005, 16:53:

So thankful I'm not "in" If there's a worse armpit of a city in the free world besides Las Vegas, it'd... well, it'd be Gary, Indiana, I suppose. But having been to more than my fair share of armpit cities in the US, Vegas ranks as one of the absolute worst. Fun place to visit for about 10 minutes, but living there... my god... I have a very good friend going to school there, and it's slowly crushing his soul. And he's very young and very hip. I was just listening to some hilarious recordings he sent me about what a horrible place it is.

If endless strip malls and steaming blacktop and smoking in the grocery store is your idea of hip, with-it culture... Las Vegas is your place! I'm no fan of Miami, either, but at least Miami has things. Vegas is nothing but a creepy, hideous, blasted, apocalyptic wasteland.

Except for the Liberace museum. That's pretty cool.

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 11, 2005, 18:42:

Mama Vieja brings back many memories Mama Vieja has been there at least 20 years. Miami Beach is like a second home. We owned a condo on Collins and my parents use to go there for the winter while I would freeze in Chicago. But I went down all the time to visit. Mama Vieja was near another famous restaurant called Embers, which close and became a well know night club where they used to shoot Miami Vice scenes.

On the corner of 23 and Collins is still a good Argentian rest (half a block from Mama Vieja) called Carsona de Carlitos.

Another good Colombian food cafateria is at 71st and Indian Creek...also there about 20 years or more.....

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greenday says on Jan 11, 2005, 18:57:

miamigo thanks for the info regarding Mama Vieja, but their Bandeja Paisa had better be good (just like my mama vieja used to make) or I'm coming after you!
kernow62, thanks for the info regarding Gloria's.....I'll check it out next time I'm in Orlando. Hey it looks like you're making Miamigo eat his words regarding South Beach having the only place where you can "walk" to get Bandeja Paisa in the US. Hell, in Orlando you can lay outside in a lawn chair and get Bandeja Paisa delivered to you. See, South Beach ain't all that and a bag of chips!!

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2005, 19:04:

Pasta por Porcel Gomezman-do you that restaurant operated by Jorge Porcel(of Gatitos de porcel fame)?? It was located around 31st & Collins going back maybe 3 years ago or so. Don't know if its still open as I don't frequent South Beach.

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 11, 2005, 21:19:

mike Don't know the place.....I think you're off now but, I'll carch you later.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 12, 2005, 06:28:

Reina, you are my soul mate. You're very generous with your chiquito, very important to me, and I can’t think of anything more fun to do in Florida than to rent a mustang convertible, music blasting, and head to Key West to rent mopeds but that Bahia Honda State Park is always the first stop. I love to rent a kayak and go into the mangrove or those tiny islands in the distance and put my lovely lady friend on all fours. I hope is you one day?
Hey Gomez5, I’m a big fan of that Cuban restaurant on Collins Ave. Puerto Sagua? . I’ve been going there since the late 70’s. There was a waiter, that sonamanbiche had to be almost 100 years old. Did not see him there last year. Maybe he finally croaked.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 12, 2005, 10:04:

ELMO---Me too!!!!!! as to Puerta Sagua Me too!!!!
Remeber when South Beach was the place for Marielitos and Orthodox Jews, but stuck in the middle of all the action was Puerta Sagua. In fact, I was just mentioning it to Miamimike the other day.
My God, my mother used to cringe way up from the condo at 58th and Collins, I would tell her I was going to 8th and Collins to eat at Puerto Sagua. She would go nuts...You know, it's still a great place, except for all the South Beach tourists that get to be a little annoying...Unfortunatly, it's not the locals that dominate the scene anymore. Also, because it's on SB, the prices have sky rocketed.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 12, 2005, 11:17:

Gomez, they (Sagua) really lucked out with that spot, imagine between Ocean drive and Washington Avenue, the freaking heart of touristy Miami Beach. I still go there, is my daughter’s favorite place, it reminds them of when they were kids.
The first time I went to Miami was in the winter of ’78. I was with my brother and another Colombian friend. We had rented a car and were clubbing in NYC. About 1am we decided to drive down to Miami, non stop. No luggage, clothe, toothbrush, nothing just our winter clothe and platform shoes. We bought everything we needed when we got there, the following day at 1 am. It was too late for a hotel so we slept on the beach, and got up only after we heard screaming kids and their families all around us. Man, when I opened my eyes, I was blown away by the awesome beauty of Miami Beach. Until then I’ve never seen such beautiful water my entire life. The ocean in Barranquilla is nothing like Miami Beach. I‘ve been going back every year since, sometimes up to 4 times a year.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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miamimike says on Jan 12, 2005, 11:28:

ELmo other nice beaches in Miami Hey Elmo-next time you are in Miami-go about 70 blocks north to 80 and Collins and you will find North Shore State Park--its really nice with trees, showers, Barb. Grills, Picnic Tables--I go there for swimmialso lots of good parking always! None of those Nazi Meter Maids found always lurking on South Beach. If you are a Nudist-you may find Haulover Beach a little more entertaining and revealing. Its about 2 miles up from North Shore I mention above. Be careful you don't go to the first beach in Haulover--thats the Gay Beach and you don't seem from your posts to be of the variety.

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oldbongo says on Jan 12, 2005, 11:32:

the oldgingo thinks elmo.. should take the burro to 1st beach,Haulover,
set up a little hitching post, put up a sign,
,...then charge by the minute.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 12, 2005, 11:39:

Guys, I gotto Haulover park all the time. That’s where they got the Viking fleet. I go out for all day fishing. Right across the street is that incredible beach, with picnic tables under those tall trees. I thought that was my little well kept secret.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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ReinaDeLa Baile says on Jan 12, 2005, 11:47:

thank you Elmo mi media naranja I agree that, like most of the ladies here, yes of course claro que si soy tu Soul Mate, or Chiquito Mate. What. Ever.

I can see how you laughed the panties off of the entire Texas Tech cheerleading squad in 1983. (Yes, they've been talking about it ever since and I recognized you immediately.)

I don't know what esta pasando con mi marido, me siento Neglected pork ayer no queria de mi cheekeyto. nada. que raro?!?

Puede ser k el me esta traiconando con la Senora G (y su maldita G espot??)

besitos Elmo. me voy de viajes domingo por 3 semanas y no se si voy a tener correo elecrtonico, me vas hacer falta muchissimo. pero a cada vez, solo tengo k sampar mi dedo verdad?)

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 12, 2005, 13:17:

Miami Beach or Baranquilla?? MB wins---hands down Miami Beach truly is gorgeous. Watching the sun rise in early morning (which you must have seen since you litterally slept on the beach) or watchining the moon shine over the ocean's horizon at night is reallly cool!!

Considering you're Barranquiero, saying that MB is better than Barranquilla says a lot!!

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 12, 2005, 13:20:

Hey Miamimike--there are nudists on South Beach too And now, because all of MS has such an international appeal, yoy can even find them at the public beach at about 45 and by the Fountainbleau as well

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jm256 says on Jan 12, 2005, 17:00:

MIAMI BEACH, JUST SAY NO miami beach is overrated cesspool

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 12, 2005, 17:03:

JM256 meet Greg444. How's Pahrump? Is that working for you? What's with you guys and the numbers? I think I'm going to rename myself Cochino666.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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jm256 says on Jan 12, 2005, 17:09:

MIAMI BEACH, JUST SAY NO miami beach is an overrated cesspool.

should be called the los angeles of the east.

glitzy, polluted, congested.....
beaches are either overcrowded or blocked off by high-rise condominiums (under construction!) or nightclubs

CENSORED

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jm256 says on Jan 12, 2005, 17:12:

utopiacowboy greg444 does not like miami beach because of all the uneducated black hoodlums, i just don't like miami beach, period. hahahaha

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Greg444 says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:06:

Have fun hanging out with all the brothers. Its only going to get worse.

"Cause dats the way we do it"

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ReinaDeLa Baile says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:40:

drive to Key West BWT Elmo, I wish I had pictures, I will have to ask Calipro if he has them by any chance, but once after I got off the plane in Miami and mi papi rented a convertible, we were driving to Key West and I remembered that I had forgotten to bring my bikini - que tonta no? So tenia que quitar mi ropa. solo tenia ropa interior de black lace, put my legs up on the dash and enjoyed the ride. so did a few truckers. oh well................

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miamimike says on Jan 13, 2005, 11:18:

Latin Population Peaked?? In Miami?? When??? Hey Greg-they run these Immigration Stats all the Time here in Miami and their opinion and Stats differ greatly from yours. The Influx from The South and central americas and Carribbean Still is driving the growth. Not too many Northerners at all come to retire or work here. A few European investors also are trickling in. Our housing appreciation is driven NOW by wealthy latin americans.On your other comment-Miami is not like what you see in the Magazines--what place is? Workers who immigrate to Sun Valley Idaho or Las Vegas because they were there on Vacation also find its different when they go to live and work full time. Got to do your Homework anywhere and Yes, MONEY does help--not only in Miami but anywhere, including LAs Vegas. If you have neither Money or an Occupation or the Langauge skills you are going to have a "Hard Row to Hoe" wherever you go. Man this is universal.Colombia too--no money, no honey as the saying goes. Sounds like you based your whole impression of Miami on Chicks and South Beach. Nothing wrong with that but with such limited experience you can't honestly critque the whole area. Next time you are in Miami-head west to the Everglades on 41(known as sw 8 st, calle 8) past krome ave. into the everglades and go for an airboat ride at the Gator Farm and then get a plate 'Gator Balls and fries. "Gator balls" are cut round pieces of alligator tail deep fried and "Finger Lickin' good"--it will put your perspective of Miami into an entirely different light. PeaceOut!

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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miamimike says on Jan 13, 2005, 11:32:

Elmo-fishing at Haulover Beach& Nude Beach Hey Elmo-you have good luck going out Fishing on the Boats at Haulover? I never went out there. If you headed south and east about 10 minutes thats where I live.In the 125th&Biscayne area. I always Fish on the Bridges between Biscayne Blvd. as you head over to Bal Harbor on the causeway. Have to try Haulover fishing sometime. That Kite Park right where the Boats are docked at Haulover is great also-on Sat. and Sun. they have 100s of Kites in the Air--adults and kids practicing their Kite Tricks. That is entertaining in itself. Elmo-you didn't say much about the Nude beach at Haulover--figured that would be a place of interest to you! On Collins at about 85th st there is a Hotel called "Dezerland" check it out-the Decor is all Old Classic American Cars-and these are actually the seats also. Good Ocean view also I might add.

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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Greg444 says on Jan 13, 2005, 12:41:

I based my opinion on knowing Miami for 15 years and seeing how it has changed, but I used to live in Boca for a few years.

Yes, it can be very nice, if you have the bucks to be shielded, otherwise latinas maybe disappointed.

My amiga came from Bogota to Miami and was upset having to work with people so clearly below her strata, and work with lazy people with bad attitude, so spoiled and lazy.

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miamimike says on Jan 13, 2005, 13:01:

Langauge Barrier here in Miami! Greg-many Latinos(as)come to Miami and become depressed at the jobs available to them. As I mentioned, lack of Langauge skills-many do not speak english at the technical level(if they speak english at all) needed to progress in their careers here. Miami is the WORST place in the world to learn English-so many speak spanish here that new arrivals are not put into that "learn english" to survive mode. The would learn English much faster if they went to middle america where their survival depended on their learning English at an advanced level. Remember to be considered truly bilingual you have to Write and Speak the langauge. A lot of people simply don't put the effort into properly learning the Langauge and never advance in their life here. I see attornies baby sitting, working as maids, bartenders ect. This would depress anyone but many many schools here offer English Study practically free of cost. True, the better langauge schools cost some $$$ but well worth it considering the alternative. The flip side of the coin is that if one of us Northamericans moved to a spanish speaking country we would be expected to learn Spanish if we were to sucessfully integrate into society there. There would be no Exceptions made for us and its the same here in the US. Got to learn the langauge!

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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miamimike says on Jan 13, 2005, 13:18:

Strata that would be on all fours !! Ha!ha! Hear that Greg??

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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Peter Miami says on Jan 14, 2005, 10:34:

What are you taking about? I do not know what Miami your talking about because no one has more beautiful weather, beaches or people. Here in Miami we have all types of people all type of music. Yes there is more latin people than every other type. Las Vegas is cool but it does not compare to Miami. I should know I was born and rasied here. But I also love visiting Colombia.

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Greg444 says on Jan 14, 2005, 12:36:

"Here in Miami we have all types of people all type of music."


And lots and lots of Brothers

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Miamigo says on Jan 14, 2005, 12:47:

Greg444 aka RACIST MORON You're a racist, bigoted douchebag, you know that pal?. FYI, you hateful piece of white trash, Miami is less than 20% black, while it's almost 65% Latino. But I guess one black face is one too many for you, huh?

Forget Las Vegas. You clearly should be in Montana with all of those white supremacists.

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lpdiver says on Jan 14, 2005, 13:08:

True In my city the school has free continuing education types of classes free my certified experienced ESL teachers. Many people think they are going to pick English up in six months. At my wifes recent "graduation" we were told that to get to the native English speaker level takes about seven years typically. It can be shortened to three with a lot of effort. This does not mean that it willl take you seven years to become functional.

My wife obtained work in six months in an English enviroment. She is in retail sales in a local store. Typically she has to greet and help 1500 customers per month. She is keeping pace with her American coworker in sales but still has great difficulty at times.

She is disappointed at the six dollars an hour but like I told her many are working for less. Also told her to look at it like she is getting paid to attend English classes. And she picks up a new Colombiana friend every so often.

She has progressed at about twice the rate of her class mates and I attribute it to regular attendance, hard work, and most of all working in an Englsih speaking enviroment.

"cook some rice!"

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