Mexican Hypocrisy! Did you know...?

Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 19, 2006, 20:33:

felonius= felonious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,damn typos! =) Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 75 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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miamimike says on Apr 20, 2006, 02:17:

Miguel-you Don't want to be an Illegal Alien Caught In Mexico crossing from Central America. Mexican Immigration Authorities are none too kind to Illegals in their country. No Air Conditioned Federal detention Camps as found here in the US-No Color TV, No Clean Beds and Showers, No 3 Hot Meals Daily, Free Medical Care plus Your Human Rights aren't respected as they are here in the US Detention Facilities. And by the way, No such thing as an Illegal Immigrant here in the USA -Immigrants are Legal and Welcomed-whereas Illegal Aliens, who have No Legal status in the US, is the current Topic of Discussion in Washington. I know this sounds crazy but during my employment at the Infamous Krome Federal Detention Center in SW Miami, I actually saw, at various times, when a Detainee was offered his Freedom, he wanted to remain in Krome as compared to conditions in their Home country, they actually liked the conditions at Krome. Unbeleivable but true.

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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juanalejo says on Apr 20, 2006, 04:55:

May 1st Communist Day? Up to my understanding that day is Labor Day in 90% of the world.

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Sr Tertius says on Apr 20, 2006, 05:03:

????? How is the vitriolic hatred of all things Mexican related to Colombia? (Add to that the irony of posting it in the FRIENDLY zone)

Wait... Communist Day? What the heck is that? Maybe it's a parallel holiday to Labor Day? Go figure.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Elbigie says on Apr 20, 2006, 05:23:

How ironic that MC includes his

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..." while saying that May 1st is the communist's day...??...

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toneloc24 says on Apr 20, 2006, 06:54:

The Mexicans... lost any support that I would have had for their cause after Pres. Fox's comments about blacks in the USA, as well as the popularity of their discriminant cartoons. Somehow, someway, they thought they were better or on some other level. Guess what?

Guess who's the butt of the jokes now? The USA is showing how it really feels about them. Those Mexicans who were trying to side up to gringos, wonder how they feel now. Esp. since many ignorant Americans consider them illegals until proven legal.

Funny, here in Atlanta, before all of this latest immigration crap went down, you'd see many Latinos, professional or not, out and about, carefree and loud, openly speaking Spanish. I've noticed the last couple of weeks, how that's completely changed. It's not really funny, it's just the USA. Check out the scapegoat populations in the USA since 2001, the Arabs (post 9/11/01), the gays (pre-2004 election), now the Latinos (pre-2006 midterm elections).

How does this relate to Colombia? There are some Colombians who think the same way as the Mexicans. However, since many Americans couldn't spot Colombia on a map, outside of Miami, many lump all Latinos together and consider them all Mexicans. It's a shame, but as I stated, it's the USA.

If May 1st is some kind of protest day in Mexico, what will Cinco de Mayo be?

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Blue says on Apr 20, 2006, 07:42:

I used to hang out a lot down in Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta when things get a little chilly here. Even in those areas most Mexicans sincerely believe that the SW is rightfully theirs. It's perfectly consistent for them to cross our border but want to keep others from crossing theirs. Perfectly logical and moral in their thinking.

Blue

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 20, 2006, 08:13:

To clarify a few things……. How arrogant many people are to assume that their May 1 commemoration is the only one celebrated in the world. May 1 is also celebrated in Marxist communism regions in celebration of their version of the labor contribution to the communist form of governing. For all those ignorant retards out there, “How ironic that MC….” do your research before you open up your blowhole and show how “ignorant” you really are…..there is a search engine called “Google” in case you were ignorant of that too…… =) And how many Latin countries celebrate “Cinco De Mayo” like Mexico? or is that limited to a smaller portion of the global Hispanic world?

Google Search: Communist Day

"Labour association:International Workers' Day is an international holiday celebrated on May 1st in commemoration of certain historic achievements of the labor movement and in remembrance of the 1886 Haymarket Riot in Chicago, Illinois. In countries other than the United States and United Kingdom, where the term has slightly different connotations, May Day is often referred to as Labor Day. In most other places of the world, the resident working classes fought hard to make May Day an official government-recognized holiday.
Canada, Australia, and New Zealand celebrate Labour Day on different dates, which has to do with how the holiday originated in those countries; see Loyalty Day and Law Day."

(Now pay attention here, ladies!)

"May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various socialist, communist, and anarchist groups. In the 20th century, the holiday received the official endorsement of the Soviet Union; celebrations in communist countries during the Cold War era often consisted of large military parades and shows of common people in support of the government."

Juanalejo:

so based on your comment the, (90% celebrates it as Labor Day, not sure exaclty where you got your percentages, but that is not important here, which leaves a balance of 10%, right? Well, that suggests that 10% do not celebrate it as Labor Day, cierto? To an intelligent person, maybe that 10% may include people following Marxist Communism and celebrating non-90% holidays? Your thoughts now?

Sr Tertius:

Vitriolic, huh? Not even close to it….i was not even warmed up yet. =) I don’t hate “all things Mexican”, as one of my parents is an LEGAL immigrant, from Mexico, I am Mexican, my son is Mexican, and the rest of my family are Mexican, and no, I don’t hate any of these people or “all things Mexican” how arrogant you are , Sr Tertius, to make such an assumption. And my “oh so humblest of apologies” for clicking on the wrong forum category….”Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa….”….parallel holiday? Hmm….could that be possible in such as diverse world as ours?
And I have followed your posts, Sr Tertius, and you seem to be reasonably intelligent, but you can’t play connect-a-dots and see the connection? Let me place it in simple terms in the furtherance of educating you: Many people from South America (including COLOMBIA) and Central America pass through Mexico to illegally enter the US. These people, including COLOMBIANS, are in search of a better life in the US, just like the MEXICANS. Where is it written that the Mexicans should have the market on illegal entry to the US? The Mexican illegals bitch and moan to the high heavens about the mistreatment they receive in the US and how unjust the life of an illegal is, which smacks of the “do as I say, not as I do” mentality, ya think? And you cant identify the relationship between Colombia, Immigration, Mexico, and the US? Please, connect the dots and the relation is easier to see. Porfavor, Senor Tertius! Ironic? Hardly.


The issue I have is with hypocrites, whether American, Canadian, Mexican, Colombia, Lunar, Martian, or any of the countries or places of origin. This just happens to be a hypocrisy blatantly shown by the Mexicans. In case some of you are “ignorant” of the recent event where the immigration official just shot and killed a “local 22 year old” Mexican citizen near the southern border of Mexico. The idiot shot him thinking that because he was darker skinned like many Central and South American, that he was an illegal alien in Mexico! Like MiamiMike writes, the treatment of illegals in Mexico pales in comparison to how illegal Mexicans are treated. So it is not a “vitriolic hatred” of Mexicans or their country, it is a matter of hypocrisy, like the posting title states. Please don’t read into something which is not there.

Elbigie:

thank you for your contribution, but yes, ignorance is a weapon of mass destruction, so if the shoe fits, as it obviously does in your case, then please enjoy your new shoes. +)

My position is that my family waited, and waited, and waited, and even waited some more (more than 8 years to be approximate) until the US government gave them an opportunity to live and work in the US legally, and we were blessed with the gift of US citizenship. I am an American first, that is where my allegiance lies, but I also value my Mexican and other roots, but am also intelligent enough to identify and disavow hypocrisy, which was the main theme in this post , even as some of you want to play the race card.


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 72 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Simon says on Apr 20, 2006, 08:14:

"lost any support that I would have had for their cause after Pres. Fox's comments about blacks in the USA, as well as the popularity of their discriminant cartoons. Somehow, someway, they thought they were better or on some other level. Guess what?"


Talk about HYPOCRISY! Discriminant cartoons? Then what the hell would you call 'Speedy Gonzales'? Americans have absolutely no moral authority to call mexicans 'racist'.

Dude you're just jealous, at least mexicans have THEIR OWN COUNTRY!!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 20, 2006, 08:22:

Simon....yep, and leaving THEIR OWN COUNTRY at an impressive rate also, and VIVA LA RAZA, Simon, but wait, Mexico is a country, not a race, and some Mexicans are arrogant enough to classify themselves as a race.....so lets Boycott "all things Gringo" like Sears in Mexico, right? Lets slap those jueros and lets not buy things from Sears, and help them make their payroll to its Mexican employees, to help the Mexican employees make their expenses....but wait! doesnt a very rich Mexican citizen, Carlos Slim, own SEARS in Mexico? yup, since 1997....Damn, are we shooting ourselves in the foot, Simon? Claro que si, senor!!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 75 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2006, 08:42:

Illegals in Mexico A Mexican immigration agent shot and killed an immigrant in Mexico couple days ago. The agent thought he shot a Central American or South American immigrant.

The news reported that individual was shot on the back as he was running away from the officer.
The ironic of the story, the victim turned out to be a Mexican citizen. Many walked on the streets to protest the action of the Immigration officer.

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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Qubo says on Apr 20, 2006, 09:29:

Simon,

That was a very very ignorant comment to say. And all the actors on the mexican tv novelas are native mexicans(white ones). I dont think so. I personally agree with Miguel that these mexicans are full of it. Funny thing its usually the poor mestizo or indian ones that are tan orgullo of being mejicano but are invisible in Mexico's affairs. The reality is Fox didn't know that in USA mejicanos are at the bottom of the pile.

Personally that is why I dont agree with all this latino propaganda that some hispanics of many origins are manipulating to push their own agenda.. Notice that the Cubans in Miami didn't have a march and really see thru the Bsh8.

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Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2006, 09:36:

Don't have the exact figure but about 50% the actors in the novelas mentioned above are from other countries!!
Friends from El Salvador and including from Colombia when they are glued to their tv monitors, they claimed that one day they would like to marry a man with that kind of looks.
The fact is that they do not know the truth. TV producer called it a TV strategy from that country to draw a large audience.

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caslug says on Apr 20, 2006, 13:00:

mexican-illegals are starting to hurt themselves.. with all the knee jerk protesting. At first their protest highlight their plight(good), but then they + mexico started telling US how to run it's immigration police. How would Mexico(or any nation) feel if US citizen started coming to mexico to work illegally, then have the US govt tell Mex govt to grant full amanesty to these illegals? Ohh, right, mexico would just shoot/beat the illegals..

None of the other countries(china, central america, col, etc.,) are telling US govt what to do. Only Mexico... I remember when I was in COL i was looking into teaching english, i was told i need a work visa. But since I couldn't get a work visa in time, i went home. I knew I could work illegally, but i would have to always work worry about if DAS found out. They would fine and bar me from returning to COL. So i decide not to do that. Also, when I overstay my tourist visa by TWO DAYS, i went to DAS and paid 230k peso fine voluntarily.

Moral of the story is, if you are in ANY country illegally, then prepare/accept the consequence of your action(paying fine, getting deport, etc.,). I think if illegals kept quiet after the first protest, this whole thing would of blown over in a year or so. Know they just poured flame on the fire, and they're losing sympathy from the US public, which have pretty much allow them to work/live/and not be heard.

I read that the state of Georgia wanted to pass a law that require people to show proof of residency before getting states services and assistances. ALL LEGAL immigrants&citizen have no problem showing proof. Then Pres FOX started protesting this! I didnt realize that Mexico was a very generous govt in allowing illegals in THEIR country to get free services without showing proof... LOL! Stuff like that will slowly create a blacklash toward illegals and mexico..

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caslug says on Apr 20, 2006, 13:06:

If mexico wanted to blame ANY country.. for their plight, they should blame themselves and China. After NAFTA, it was HOPE that more LOW paying/unskill/manufacturing jobs would go to Mexico, thereby helping mexico unemployment decrease, hence decreasing the flow of illegals. What happend was, for whatever reason, mexico lost many of those outsourcing opp't to china. Look, if INDIA a poor country and have TONS of outsourcing jobs, especially high-tech, why couldn't Mexico. But Mexico's gov't didnt do a good job 10-20 yrs ago to revamp their system, allowing more competitive countries like china/india to take over.

We could do what the romans did, if you wanted roman citizenship you join the army for 20yrs. after that you got FULL roman citizenship.

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johna says on Apr 20, 2006, 13:42:

Historical perspective
So considering that most Mexicans in this country live somewhat close to the border (I didn't say ALL) we should at least consider the history of the Southwest. It was mexico at one time after all. It was cotton farming slave owners who expanded into what is now texas after pledging to become "Mexican" catholic, speak spanish, and give up slavery. Then guess what they broke the deal, and became the lone star state then when they got there asses handed to them by the Mexicans (remember the Alamo?) the US backed these turncoats. So lets not be too hard on the Mexicans. I agree with alot of what you are saying MC. Especially about the hyper nationalism, and hypocricy. They have a shitty government, just like we do. Just my opinion.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 20, 2006, 14:20:

I would vote to give the 2 dozen survivors of the .. "Texas Takeover of Mexican lands" a "substantial" amount of money (similar to the "substantial" fine amount that the hood ornament senator kennedy has proposed as punishment for illegally entering the US...$2,000 in exchange for a path to citizenship) which would be about $2,000 (a large amount of money at the time of the alleged land theft crime). if you were not present at the time of this property theft, then you get a bag of popcorn,(or churros?) but you are not the victim in that deal. Descendants deserve nothing..Sympathy, a box of tissue, but no cash. ...they are the same "relatives" who suddenly appear when the old man with money in his mattress dies....no love lost, just vultures after easy money, maybe?

May you have a wonderful Communist Day on May 1st, to all you unbelievers!!! Labor Day only....indeed. =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 72 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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johna says on Apr 21, 2006, 10:37:

can you clarify MC I am not sure that I follow your point in the last post. What are you saying,

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johna says on Apr 21, 2006, 10:37:

can you clarify MC I am not sure that I follow your point in the last post. What are you saying?

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Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 21, 2006, 16:10:

You can almost tell the seasons by it It's about every three months that somebody comes to a Colombia forum to post bad things about Mexico or Mexicans. I'm sorry but what's your point?

I've travelled and lived in both countries. Love them both. Very different places but the exact things you're saying to dis' Mexico could be said the same about Colombia. Both suffer terribly from corruption, inequal distribution of wealth, machismo, racism and crime.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 21, 2006, 16:12:

By the way, Miguel Those also weren't just "Mexican illegal aliens" protesting in the US. Plenty of Central Americans and, I'm sure, Colombians among them.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 21, 2006, 21:46:

Clarificaton I posted a comment on one of the other posts, johna, regarding the $2,000 comments that I refer to. Seems that the buffoon Sen Kennedy and his crime partner have proposed that the revised immigration policy of the US include a path to eventual citizenship for the illegal aliens currently living in the US. These include learning English, paying back taxes, registering as Democrats, (relax, take a valium, just kidding with that one!), and paying what he refers to as a “substantial” fine as a penalty for living in the US illegally all these years. Needless to say I consider the penalty for criminal action such as this is “substantial”, more along the lines of a joke, considering only a low percentage of illegals are the farmworkers where that might be considered “substantial”. To the rest of the illegals, for example, students overstaying their visas, imported engineers their work visas, narco-criminals earning big $$, etc., this is pocket change. To me it is more along the lines of “rewarding bad behavior” (crossing the Rio and entering illegally), and “slapping the face” of all the law abiding people of other Countries (like the numerous Colombians!!!....hey! theres a connection to my post, PBH, things Colombian , for all the wags who cant play connect-a-dot and figure out the connection with this PBH post, immigration, mexico, and Colombia…=P. And like other countries where people want to search for a better life. (better, not perfect). To all the people people waiting in Colombia for a chance to visit, work, live, die, etc, in the USA, patiently, and law-abiding, we are telling them that they are not important and they were idiots to wait like that when they could have been here already. Telling the law-abiders that the US rewards bad behavior. Sorry, doesn’t work for me. I believe in rewarding good behavior. I say, swap the good ones for the bad ones!!!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 70 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 21, 2006, 21:48:

I have finally met the PBH Scribe and Weatherman…..=) So, this illegal immigration issue was predicted by Mr Hollywood using the seasons, huh? I am addressing the immigration reform, Mr. H, and could really care less about the weather and seasons in Hollywood. I am sooooo happy someone has taken it upon himself/herself to keep track of PBH postings and its correlation to the seasons. Please sit down, take your meds, and completely read my posts, and you will soon see that it is not a “racial” or "hate" thing, re: “to post bad things about Mexico or Mexicans” (Mr H). Its about anyone who is hypocritical in their actions, regardless if they are from mother earth, the moon, or mars. And you need to ask what is my point? Like some Harley-Davidson T-shirts say, “if I have to explain it to you, you wouldn’t understand?” My point has been posted throughout this post, senor, look up.

You further write: “I've travelled and lived in both countries. Love them both. Very different places but the exact things you're saying to dis' Mexico could be said the same about Colombia. Both suffer terribly from corruption, inequal distribution of wealth, machismo, racism and crime.”

I am happy that you are a world traveler, but unfortunately not the only one here on PBH. The post was created to discuss the current proposed immigration reform in Congress and its relation to foreign immigrants. To the shallow, it would be seen as an personal attack on “anything Mexican” similar to the boycott of “anything Gringo” declared in Mexico for May 1, (hmmm….Labor Day, Communist Day, Labor Day, Communist Day….some are sooooo easily confused…. =P
But to the rest who are deeper than the kiddie pool, there is another factor in the equation here affecting the Colombians and other Central and South American countries (damm, theres another dot!...breeding like rabbits!)

Mr H: “Those also weren't just "Mexican illegal aliens" protesting in the US. Plenty of Central Americans and, I'm sure, Colombians among them.” Ya know, I have looked at several published photos, and was present during the demonstration in San Jose, CA, and I have not seen any Hispanic flag other than the flag of Mexico. There was not enough of the Colombians and Central Americans for the news media to even count, estimate, predict, or include in their participant demographics. And yes, if these illegals included CA and SA people, deport them too! And replace them with legal immigrants. One body at a time…..every last one! But the point is that Mexico, is hypocritical for enforcing the same felony immigration policy that is being bitched about in the demonstrations! Didn’t catch that part, huh, Mr H?


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 70 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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platano says on Apr 22, 2006, 00:50:

¡Qué viva México lindo! ¡Premian a los ilegales con ciudanía! Colombian illegals and Mexican illegals in the United States should be immediately granted citizenship as a reward for all the hard work they have contributed to the USA economy and they should be greeted with love and with open arms and with full citizenship.

¡Celebramos el primer de mayo! Tambien celebramos el cinco de mayo.plátano

plátano

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2006, 08:54:

From 30,000 feet is one to expect more! hahaha.. Heres a study published yesterday by a Mexican and US joint team:

Updated:2006-04-21 19:24:06
Study Recommends Mexico Block Crossings
By MARK STEVENSON
AP
MEXICO CITY (AP) - An immigration study partly funded by the Mexican government recommended Friday that Mexico bar its citizens from the most dangerous illegal border crossings.


The recommendations from the joint report by U.S. and Mexican immigration experts run counter to Mexico's long-standing claim that it cannot prevent its own citizens from massing at the border, because the constitution guarantees freedom of movement.


But Assistant Foreign Relations Secretary Geronimo Gutierrez said his country was willing to consider the recommendation that "restricted access zones should be established in dangerous areas."


"It's no secret this topic has been taboo in Mexican politics," Gutierrez said at a news conference presenting the report. He added, "We are open to analyzing this."


"We are not closed to any option," said Gutierrez, who called for a wider debate on Mexico's role and responsibilities in migration issues.


The study also suggested the U.S. provide more temporary work visas and enforce visa requirements.


Mexico has long defended its citizens' right to migrate, and Gutierrez said the debate "is just in the beginning stage."


The report - by Susan Martin of Georgetown University and Agustin Escobar of Mexico's Center for Research on Social Anthropology - recommends more temporary worker visas, but says that in order for them to work, the programs need to be simplified, workers encouraged to return to their home countries and sanctions enforced against employers who hire or recruit undocumented labor instead.


However, Martin said that constant, small-scale enforcement would be more effective than big, one-time raids on employers like those carried out this week against the largest U.S. pallet services company.


The two-year research project found that immigrants in general have a small, net positive effect on the U.S. economy: They tend to decrease wages for low-skilled workers and previous immigrants, but increase business profits.


It also found that Mexican migrants are staying longer in the United States, not so much because of tougher border security, but because they now are more likely to have steady, urban employment rather than the seasonal farm jobs that used to predominate.


And while Mexican migrants to the United States are only slightly better-educated than Mexico's national average of about an eighth-grade education, there is also a "brain drain": Almost one-third of Mexicans with post-graduate education are in the United States.



Hmmm..what did they find?

"immigrants in general have a small, net positive effect on the U.S. economy: They tend to decrease wages for low-skilled workers and previous immigrants, but increase business profits."

Platano would welcome with open arms, the pedophiles, the rapists, drug dealers, gangbangers, thiefs, and other similar caliber illegal immigrants and make them citizens...damn, dude, i want some of the crack you are smoking! Dont be stingy! the rest of us want to wallow in shallowness! or to make me feel like i can be the spokesman for FARC! =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 69 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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platano says on Apr 22, 2006, 09:09:

No drugs for you, dude! I don't have or use drugs. "Stingy" is a word that doesn't apply to love. All it requires is that you open your heart and allow love to flow to everyone. Playing in the shallow end of the pool is fun!

plátano

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2006, 11:34:

You must live in Haight-Ashbury in SF, my friend...with tie-die shirts and free love and sex for everyone! hahaha.,....get a grip on reality, please!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 69 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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animalogic says on Apr 22, 2006, 11:46:

mexican point of view... I’ve been reading all the stuff posted here, and there is something that I would like to add. I am from Mexico, and I can tell you the Mexican point of view…..

I agree with the topic of this forum I hate hypocrisy either mexican or colombian...

1o. May 1st is the Labor Day in Mexico.

2o. Most of the Mexicans living in Mexico do not care about the "mexicans" living in the USA, since they do not consider themselves as Mexicans. We don’t know why they have waved the Mexican flag during their demonstrations (I´ve seen Colombian and other Latinamerican flags as well). When these people come to Mexico they consider themselves "gringos", they are the ones who have not have national identity (as you have pretended in another discussion on PBH: "el español colombiano es el mejor")

3o. Mexicans living in Mexico are NOT PLANNING to boycott "gringo stuff" as you have mentioned.

4o. I agree that most of the Mexicans are arrogant, but it is stupid to gang on Mexico or Mexicans just for what you´ve watch on TV or what you´ve heard on the radio, even if you have come to Mexico it is stupid to think that every single Mexican is the same. What if I attack all Colombians just for the sake of the Colombian drug-dealers that have been caught in Mexico recently??? C´moon guys be more critical rather than offensive!!! I agree that people do not have to blame the whole population in Colombia for the sake of drugs, but you guys do not have to blame all Mexicans for the sake of the immigration demonstrations in the USA, as I have said, we do not care about them!!!

By the way, I have been to Colombia several times and tomorrow I am taking a flight to Bogota, my best friend's family lives there and I would be very stupid if I am to think that Colombians hate Mexico just for what I have read on this site. Colombia is one of the most beautiful countries I have ever been to and Colombians are the most polite people I have ever met… it is really sad to see that you attack "all mexicans"…

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animalogic says on Apr 22, 2006, 11:47:

By the way PEACE !!!!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2006, 14:01:

Whos attacking "all Mexicans"? Read the posts, please. If you read my posts, you will see i am Mexican as well, and you certainly dont speak for all Mexicans, including myself. I dont blame the Mexican people in Mexico or in the USA.

1. The ignorant doubted that May 1 is also Communist Day. I pointed out May 1 is also the day called for in the immigrant demonstrations.

2. I agree. There is no love lost between American-born Mexicans and the new arrivals...(Nortenos vs Surenos..)nor with the Mexicans living in Mexico and Mexicans in the US...

3. Do a simple google search or even look to the media for reports by organizations to boycott "All things Gringo"...the article i read even referred to boycotting Sears in Mexico....gringo store, right? so lets boycott it....Wrong!..if you have not heard of the owner of Sears in Mexico since 1997 something is wrong here....Carlos Slim...need i say more?


4. whos ganging up on Mexicans? i am criticizing some people (Mexican government representing the Mexican people) and their demonstrating followers who are demanding one thing, when there own country is doing worse things to immigrants! Christ, they are even shooting their own unarmed citizens! Hypocrisy among immigrations issues is the topic, not hurting ones feelings or chastizing a entire people.

I dont hate anyone here, Mexican, Colombian or Martian, but i will point out hypocrisy and criticise the hypocritical.

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 69 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 25, 2006, 20:43:

You are killing me, Terty......not a troll, please!!! not that! I just "totally" hate when people call me the T word!!!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 66 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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