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MEDELLIN VIOLENCE HITS HOME!!!!

Medellin violence hit home last night when my novia got mugged and beat quite severely after getting off the bus near Parque Botero after leaving her sisters house. I sent my friend Alvaro to check on her and he said they beat her pretty bad. Apparently the hit her on the head causing a 6 in gash that needed stiches and then beat her and kicked her untill she gave up her cell phone and her money. I can not comprehend how a anyone could do this to a defensless girl walking home. Don't these people have any decency at all, what a couple of low life scum. I am beyond angry, I wish I was there and the two punks who did this woud try it with me. I hope they try it with someone who breaks their scrawny necks and put them in the hospital for a very long time. There has to be a special place in hell for assholes who beat women. I wish I could hunt them down and smash their knee caps and cripple them for life then they could never do it again to an innocent girl. She is in bruised all over and in alot of pain so please keep her in your prayers.

By scooby_1781 on Sep 8, 2007, 17:41 in Friendly Talkzone.

gabolicious says on Sep 8, 2007, 17:49:

Scooby I am terribly sorry for what happened to your girlfriend... I will keep her in my prayers... though I am in Mexico, if there is anything I can do for you, just let me know...

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

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jinksmiester says on Sep 8, 2007, 18:11:

You can only hope that what goes around comes around and somewhere down the road these waist of skin assholes get a good shit kick,n somewhere....sooner or later they probably will if they continue on the path they are on....they would certainly deserve a beating....I hope your lady recovers okay....its sad people like this even exist...they have no worth to anyone.

A man is not old until regret takes the place of dreams

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brazilianhottie says on Sep 8, 2007, 18:14:

scooby: I am sorry to hear that happened to ur girlfriend. I hope she recovers rapidly and I will be keeping her in my prayers.

Isis

Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite

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houstongal says on Sep 8, 2007, 18:17:

Scooby, sorry to hear about your girlfriend. That's pretty low of these guys to attack a woman. May she recover quickly. My thoughts are with you and your girlfriend.

Culture is language and language is culture - Dr. Annamaria Napolitano

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ozgringo says on Sep 8, 2007, 18:32:

My girlfriend was also mugged near the city centre of Medellin back in June, she is a local and wasn't taking any risks, (it was in broad daylight). Thankfully she didn't suffer any serious injuries but was very shaken after. Please send my best wishes to your g/f ..

may a thousand mangy wombats shit in your billabong

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panthdave says on Sep 8, 2007, 18:37:

"Apparently the hit her on the head causing a 6 in gash that needed stiches and then beat her and kicked her untill she gave up her cell phone and her money"

Until she gave up her cellphone and money up..She should of gave it up right away at night in Parque Botero..

Sorry to hear that...

panthdave Miami

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juancegomez says on Sep 8, 2007, 19:36:

I can only wish her a safe recovery, and eventual punishment for those pathetic criminals responsible, whether at the hands of man or those of fate.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 8, 2007, 19:47:

I believe those cowards will be dealt with, one way or the other. I send my blessings to your novia, that she will fully recover soon.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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miamimike says on Sep 8, 2007, 20:54:

Sorry to hear of the Incident! As I am not familiar with Medellin, is this area, parque Botero, a dangerous place? Or I should say, more dangerous then other places in Medellin?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Lisa Zee says on Sep 8, 2007, 21:12:

I am very sorry to hear that. That area of down town is not very safe at night, I would not be walking after six alone specially that area. I would not do that eather in down town Los Angeles. And definitely she should have given the A.holes the phone, they don`t cost that much. She must be very traumatized, I would, I hope she gets well soon.

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arthur brode says on Sep 8, 2007, 21:56:

Scooby,hope she gets well soon.take care.and if there is anything i can do over here,let me know.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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scotty says on Sep 8, 2007, 22:41:

Scooby sorry to hear about the attack on your novia, stories like this are sickening, what a couple of useless human beings to attack a woman.
A similar story happened to my ex novia in Cali, she was attacked in broad daylight at an intersection, she was on her moto with her 10 year old son on the back, two men pushed them off the moto into the intersection, when she protested they kicked her in the stomach and drove off with the moto.
No one did anything to help her and the boy and the police well the police in Cali are less than enthusiastic about doing their duty.
It seems in Colombia its everyone for themselves.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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goin_south says on Sep 8, 2007, 23:03:

Hey Scooby, I hope she recovers completely.
How 'bout a follow up report to let us know that she's okay.

.

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 9, 2007, 00:57:

I hope she feels better soon. A couple of people commented on the "giving up" of the cell phone. I don't know what kind of money your novia has, but mine had none. The only thing of any value she owned was her beloved cell phone. So I can appreciate why your novia's reaction would be to resist.

Anyway, it must be torture for you not to be able to be there with her. Hang in there, and I hope everything works out OK.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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junkyak says on Sep 9, 2007, 03:00:

is parque botero in el centro?

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tomtom33 says on Sep 9, 2007, 04:48:

I believe he means Botero Plaza. It is in Centro just west of the Parque Berrio metro stop. I have spent a lot of time in that area, but I always leave by 7:00 pm. There are a lot of glue sniffers and drunks in that area. The odor of urine is pervasive.

About the only relatively safe place in Centro after dark is the Avenida Junin pedestrain mall between Parque Bolivar and Exito. Parque Bolivar is not safe after dark.

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webmanco says on Sep 9, 2007, 06:18:

I am sorry to hear about this, I also wish I was there to help her at that moment, To attack someone when you outnumber them is not right and let alone when it is a woman.

Animo y pa´ lante

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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morphus says on Sep 9, 2007, 06:19:

Try Botero Plaza after midnight. Its a freak show.

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robi666 says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:05:

Sorry for your girlfriend, and I understand that you're angry but if such a low life like those guys attacks you and not a defenceless girl, it is because he is ready to shoot.
I hope they were not sent by Aussie Greg... i don't know him or his entourage but Colombia can be a weird place if you piss off the wrong person.
I was told that the Centro was a lot worse some years ago. I personally spent something like 15 days in a cheap hotel there when I was fixing my apartment and had walks around at any time of the day and night. Never happened anything to me, but the view was not really relaxing... and made me keep my guard on everytime.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Brians says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:24:

I have visited my wife's aunt who is a nun at night at the church she lives at in that area. We had to park around the corner so about a 1 1/2 block walk to the door of the church. Anyway I told my wife after being eyed up by just about every person we came into eye contact with that we visit only during the day from now on. I am not the type to feel uneasy but I felt like I had a bulls eye on my head. Maybe a bad night but didn't dig it. In the day it is perfectly fine.

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mranderson says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:28:

I think it's getting more common to steal cell phones. I have heard of several people who have been robbed of their cell phones. Cell phones seem to be pretty expensive in Medellin. I have a friend who bought one for a million pesos and I think it's easy to resell them. I've been to botero plaza at night after work before. Went to take pics of the musuem and the lights with my digital camera. Didn't seem all that bad but of course I wasn't hanging out there either. Sorry to hear about your girlfriend.

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tomtom33 says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:30:

Morph, after midnight? Do you have a death wish?

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morphus says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:33:

You can buy a cell phone for 50,000 pesos in Medellin. Thats not too expensive.

I know a guy in Medellin that got a knife put to his throat while going to work 5am in the morning. He had to give up 5 mil pesos. It happened in Centro too.

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Frank Rizzo says on Sep 9, 2007, 07:39:

The nice thing about colombia is that if you shoot first and ask questions later, no-one really cares. The questioning is all of 10 minutes after shooting at someone that tried to rob you. Not sure how long it would be if you killed them.

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Lowell says on Sep 9, 2007, 08:41:

Very bad tragic news. I'm very sorry for you friend. I pray for her speedy recovery. It appears (but is probably not the case), that life in Colombia may be more risky for Colombians, than it is for foreigners.

For a while I worked as a criminal defense private investigator. After a couple of years I couldn't stand the work anymore. I did many a jailhouse interviews. To many violent and non-violent criminals, the public is seen as the enemy and or a target whose health or life has no value. It's a form of intense hatred. Others that were so wasted, lost all knowledge of right and wrong. That is until they are forced to sober/clean up and face their charges. All had their stupid excuses. All left victims behind, forever affected physically and or mentally.

My wife loves her cell phones (2). I believe that without thinking of the risk involved, she would resist having them taken. We hardly ever go into town at night and never anywhere near risk areas. If anything we walk to the local bakery.

Once again very sorry for your novia.

Lowell

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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scooby_1781 says on Sep 9, 2007, 09:17:

From what I understand she was hit in the head from behind with a gun then after she fell one kicked and hit her while another went through her purse and pockets. She told me she resisted because she did not want to give up the phone that I had sent her for christmas and it was special to her. I told her I can always get you another phone but there is only one you. Damn she's a fighter, and a very nice girl, I just found out that this is the third or forth time she has been mugged in different parts of Medellin. I guess there are guys that just go around looking for women (or easy prey) to prey on. Even though my novia is poor she likes to look good I guess they thought they found a rich target. They only got about 50,000cop and her cell phone.

I guess I live a sheltered life because I can not understand how a group of men can ever do anything like that to a defenseless woman its just beyond my comprehension. I forget sometimes how good I have it up here in my little mountain town in Calif. where that stuff never happens.

"SEMPER FI"

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john_stark says on Sep 9, 2007, 11:00:

You're right, Scooby, although most PBH posters insist on saying that Colombia is safer than their own home towns. Right if you live in Watts or South Bronx.

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coffee beaner says on Sep 9, 2007, 11:10:

that sucks, not one of the safest places to be alone at night... hope she is ok.

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goin_south says on Sep 9, 2007, 11:10:

Cell phones? Yeah. Even in pasto... my gf had someone rob her cell phone about two months ago.

And, since we are always contrasting the eeuu/colombia.... IMAGINE... getting held-up in the usa, for your freakin cell phone??? Hell, kids give em away (their old ones) or sale 'em for $20 bucks around here.

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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gabolicious says on Sep 9, 2007, 11:22:

Con todo respeto Scooby.... no matter how special is a cell phone for your girlfriend, or how hard you work to have some things... when you are in situations like this, you should give up what these motherf*** want, otherwise they will hurt you AND in the end they run away with the money and the cell phone(such as in this case)... I know you work hard to buy your own things but it's not worth the risk

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

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njtea5 says on Sep 9, 2007, 11:28:

Sorry to hear that hombre my players are out for her...

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Man Tequila says on Sep 9, 2007, 12:16:

I was sorry to hear about this Scooby. I hope her a speedy recovery and will keep her in my thoughts.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Portena says on Sep 9, 2007, 13:31:

Sorry your girlfriend went through such an ordeal. I will keep her in my thoughts.

I feel better! I can smile at it now, I feel better. Ohhhh, better! Gnarls Barkley

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tampavallenato says on Sep 9, 2007, 13:41:

Scooby, I only wish that this type of scum crosses my path one day. Ohhhhh how I would like to make them pay. Hope your girl gets better soon.

Ay Hombe!!!

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RussianFred says on Sep 9, 2007, 15:01:

Those punks should be shot. No Colombians came to her rescue? I thought they did not stand for that type of bullshit!

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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scooby_1781 says on Sep 9, 2007, 16:00:

RussianFred,

I asked her that, if any one came to help her. She was a little more steady and through a translator I got the whole story. It was 9pm & she was heading home from her sisters house she had gotten off the bus and was waiting to transfer to another. She was talking to one of her GF on her cell when 2 teenagers came up behind her and hit her on the head from behind with a gun. She fell down and they put a hanger over her head around her kneck and tried to grab her cell phone. She held on to it so they started choking her with the hanger and hitting and kicking her. She let go of the phone and they one continued to go through her pockets and purse while the other held on to the hanger and pointed the gun around at bystanders. When they got all she had they dropped her and ran away. No one person came to her aid till after they left because they were waving the gun around.

"SEMPER FI"

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Lostgringo says on Sep 9, 2007, 16:07:

Scooby I am really sorry to hear about your g/f and the assault on her. I wish her a very speedy recovery. You can love this place but you should never completely let your guard down. It is too bad this had to happen to her. Damn Scooby don't every buy her a really expensive phone.......she seems like such a fighter she could get hurt really bad.

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scooby_1781 says on Sep 9, 2007, 16:17:

The phone was a SONY ERICSSON Z500 UNLOCKED GSM CAMERA PHONE which I got on ebay for $50 it sure wasn't worth her life.

"SEMPER FI"

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njtea5 says on Sep 9, 2007, 17:47:

Hijo de puta

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:06:

I hate to be the one asking these questions.... but....

Scooby, Scooby.... this friend Alvaro, is he a friend of hers too? How long do you know him for? Does Alvaro speak english or do you guys also communicate through a translator?

Is the translator somebody you know and trust?

Do you have a webcam? Did you ask her to get in front of the webcam so you can see how beat up she is?

Why would the guys hit her over the head.... muggers usually use knives. My mother got mugged, she fought back and the guy stabbed her hand, but I have never heard of anybody getting hit over the head.

If she has lived in Medellin all her life, she knows her tufr. Why would she be walking around alone with an expensive cellphone.. at night?

Do you have a doctor you trust in Medellin, one that you know but she doesn't? Can you flip the doctor some money to examine her and get back to you letting you know the state of her wounds?

And finally, did you send her money to buy a new cell? Did you send her $$$ for medical care to get the "wounds" looked after? Are you sending her money for medication?

Despierte mijo que le estan viendo la cara, como no se dan cuenta de algo tan evidente?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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arthur brode says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:15:

jeje

http://www.calirentals.net/

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paisa29 says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:20:

esa es una de las partes mas peligrosas del centro de la Ciudad para mí, especialmente despues de las 18:00

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:20:

Esto parece un comercial de western union:

"western union resolvio mi situa, unos guaches me atracaron en la plaza botero y me quitaron el cel a tramacazos....... pero mi papi gordis ya me envio el giro y resolvimos la situacion rapido... gracias a mi gordis en la Yunais..... y gracias a Western Union tengo un cel mas bacano que el anterior...."

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:29:

So, someone else was thinking about it... but I was not brave enough to post those thoughts... brava Colombiche!
Anyway, if it is not the case, just excuse Colombiche and me, but chances are always high of being treated like a marrano. What I do not like about this story:
1) Walking at night in Plaza Botero is a no no for a local.
2) She's from a lower estrato.
3) You sent a Colombian friend to check it out.
4) You use a translator.
5) They beat her up quite hard. It does not happen often at all.
6) You used to enjoy brothels and strip club and Medellin Mansion. Nothing wrong with it, but it happens that you are easy to meet some kind of persons there.

Now, all of those points taken separately are ok, but together... well, sorry again Scooby, but keep your guard always on...

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:33:

robi, you can always count on me to be painfully frank.

Sorry scoob, but think about it.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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manINred says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:41:

Well, regardless of whether this person's girlfriend is hoodwinking him or not, Medellin violence unfortunately does still occur, more than anywhere I've seen before (though granted I've still much of this world left to discover). My exGF's friend was raped and hurt badly by a taxi driver. I saw dead people in the street, shot (nothing compared to what she's seen, mind you). My friend was lucky not be killed recently by assassins that took out the dude behind him, mangling my friend's leg.

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arthur brode says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:54:

you should sell that commercial to western union,Colombiche lol

http://www.calirentals.net/

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elmodefoque says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:55:

colombiche, me encatan mujeres como tu!!!
de pendeja no tienes na!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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elmodefoque says on Sep 10, 2007, 09:58:

me encantaria preñate pa tener on pocoton de pelaitos bien verraco.
oye! se me olvido el nombre del man ese viejo paisa con el machete. como se llama?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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strata2woman says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:02:

He Rob and Colombiche - So, If you live or are from a lower stratum, are you automatically a suspect in trying to rip off your "rich gringo" boyfriend? Only the girlies form higher strata are to be trusted if I follow your guys' logic. Gringos Beware of poor girls! They will take advantage of your pocketbook.

- "con sombrero vueltiao y abarcas de tres puntá"

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:05:

So, If you live or are from a lower stratum, are you automatically a suspect in trying to rip off your "rich gringo" boyfriend?
No, you are not.

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:15:

I think robi stated that any one of the circumstances on his list, in and of itself, is not what could necessarily make this happen. But when all 6 are put together, it is something to consider.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:16:

Strata, this is not a class issue. I didn't even take note of what strata the girl was, the concept of buscar marrano knows no strata, it's universal. Come on, tell me you don't think the same thing is happening, a mi me huele a lechon, a usted no?

Elmodefoque, se llama Octavio Mesa and he could take Diomedez Dias with one hand tied behind his back... well he could have.... now he is dead :(

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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strata2woman says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:25:

He Rob, I'm glad we cleared that up. Being from a lower-stratum doesn't make women living in these areas any more or any less honorable, than those from a higher stratum.

- "con sombrero vueltiao y abarcas de tres puntá"

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Robert Jorge says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:40:

My girl is from a lower estrato household. And I would say her family are some of the most honest, honorable people you could ever meet. So I totally agree with you s2woman. But like Cbiche said, this has nothing to do with class or estrato. At the most, it may be one of a dozen things, when all put together, MAY explain why this incident happened. And that is speculation right now anyway.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:43:

So, If you live or are from a lower stratum, are you automatically a suspect in trying to rip off your "rich gringo" boyfriend? -- strata2woman

Rich? these guys aren't rich. They are average working class joes in the US, they just seem rich when they set foot in Colombia and start throwing their dolaretes around.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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elmodefoque says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:46:

mira colombiche check your profile tengo que preguntarte algo en privado

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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LA_MONA says on Sep 10, 2007, 10:48:

todos para el profile de Colombiche!!! Chisme chisme..

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:04:

Scooby I read how you lashed out at me on CBlog. Here is my reply:

"Look scoob, I am a colombian woman.... I don't care if you see any good in me or not, I was just trying to help you hold on to your hard earned dollars.

I am not grumpy or friendless at all, the contrary. Having friends is very different from being surrounded by people who are suckering me. Just cuz you look around and you see lots of people it doesn't mean they are your friends.

I won't tell you anymore things that you don't want to hear, keep believing what you want to believe."

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Lisa Zee says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:

Solo hay que ser nacida y criada en Medellin, o Colombia debo decir, para ser mal pensados, a mi me olia a "gato encerrado"
But we don`t really know! Or I did not read the whole thing.

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:12:

strata2woman,
when you smelled and saw lots of crap, you begin to recognize it.
Sadly, a girl from a rich family would hardly have the need to try what a girl from a poor family would. That does not mean that if you are from a poor family you are automatically dishonest. Like being a prepago does not mean you are a dishonest person. I've seen prepagos genuinely falling in love and being the most honest persons in the world. Who can judge a person in needs?
What I can tell you is that 99% of the times it depends on the man and the way one can handle the relationship. Being the average man in Colombia is not the same as being the average man in US or Europe, accept it or not.
About the current story, I have been clear on my post and Robert gave some explanations as well. I would just add, that similar stories have been used in the past by people I know to get money from a gringo boyfriend. And not once.

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:12:

Bueno... amanecera y veremos dijo el ciego y al otro dia amanecio y estaba tambien sordo.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:26:

Y lo pejor es que tampoco se dio cuenta que había amanecido...
hey Colombiche, am I getting better with my written spanish? :-)

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:28:

Vamos bastante bien robi!

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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webmanco says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:35:

"when 2 teenagers came up behind her and hit her on the head from behind with a gun"

Too much trouble just for a cellphone. Good eye CB!!

When someone got into my neigboor´s apartment, the police told me that usually those guys don use guns, "Apartamenteros".

I walked on August thru several places near downtown, went thru El Barrio Triste, Centro, Parque Botero.

On a Sunday me and my uncle listened to some street singers "Que orgulloso me siento de ser Colombiano, upon y uncle´s request.

Sad to say but sometimes people make up these stories, blowing up the bad security image of Colombia. While in Medellín I did not see danger anywhere or hear about it from other people.

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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Miguel says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:36:

Lo que quiero saber es por que robi666 siempre habla mierda lo que tiene que ver de la costa. Huy.

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strata2woman says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:40:

Oh girl, Colombiche you need to wake up and smell the coffee! "Rich Gringo" is just a palabra compuesta. Perhaps the gringos that throw their dolaretes around you are referring to, are the ones you probably know. However, I am not here to defend the gringos, that, they can do themselves.

My answer to your post was and is, the underlying inuendo: Some gringo girlfriend is trying to fleece him, and she wants his money, [your Western Union post]. Yes, Con Artists are universal and are from any social status, however, it looks like because she is a poor girl, her mugging is suspected. If she has been a well to do girl, she probably won't be taking buses and perhaps this could have been avoided, but she's not and buses are our form of transportation. - I was shopping not too long ago at the Vivero in Buena Vista [B/quilla] and it was past 8pm and no taxi wanted to take me to my neck of the wood, so I had to take the bus loaded with stuff and take the long ride home. Was I probably more likely to be mugged, than if a taxi has taken me home? yes!

Poor women are limited to where they shop or where they hang out, violence is more prevalent in poor neighborhoods, pero aun asi, most low income women are decent human beigns and no con artists.

I take it VERY PERSONAL when anyone throws inuendos without hard core facts, only based on stereotypes.

- "con sombrero vueltiao y abarcas de tres puntá"

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RussianFred says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:48:

Most of PBH people are crazy. You will never accept the fact that Colombia is dangerous. It's nothing like living in the USA. It dosn't matter about her Strata, wealth or class, I think the poor are more honorable then the rich that recieved their wealth from DRUG!!!!

This guys girl was mugged, please don't look for holes in this story. I have a question for the Gringos here, would you bring your children or grandchildren to Colombia?

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:52:

Miguel, who's talking about the coast here? You can always open a thread about that, se te agradece.
I like the coast, anyway.

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webmanco says on Sep 10, 2007, 11:56:

Colombia migth be dangerous given the opportunity. Well everywhere can be dangerous given Papaya.

RussianFred, wake up and smell the coffee, when people steel mobile phone it is usually snatch and go. But here there were like three thief one gun, come on!! plus an asault. BTW, I am one of the craziest on PBH.

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:12:

strata2, I think YOU need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Why do you always turn every single post into a class war? This has nothing to do with social class. It has to do with a Hollywood/Indiana Jones style robbery ... all over a "chichigua" (a cell phone)-- that makes absolutely no sense!

Anyway, I was just pointing out some stuff, I can't sit here and argue all day over it. If you guys believe the story then fine......

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:16:

I would think that most Colombian girls would have the sense to give up her cell phone when being mugged by a group of people, even though it is of great sentimental value. My condolences to Scooby, this story is very melodramatic.

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Lisa Zee says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:18:

Robers don`t have a gun!.
I have brought my son many times, now we just spent 8 weeks in Colombia and my B/F

said:"I HAVE NEVER FELT SO SAFE IN ANY PLACE BEFORE" He did not go to Medellin, but just because we like the country side.
There is crime like that all over the world.

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strata2woman says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:30:

Please Colombiche don't be so melodramatic, It's not about class war. It's about not rushing to soon to judgment and about stereotypes.

- "con sombrero vueltiao y abarcas de tres puntá"

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toneloc24 says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:43:

Strata2woman - No disrespect, but I think you'd be wise to go back and read Robi666's post with the 6 points. Several people on this site, including Colombiche, are aware of the probable circumstances surrounding this "relationship."

As Robi stated "when you smelled and saw lots of crap, you begin to recognize it."

In this particular case, I wouldn't be so sensitive with "class" issues. It's not about that. The OP's probably getting fleeced, and doesn't have a clue. He doesn't understand the culture, doesn't speak the language, yet is very defensive, rather than absorbing it.

And finally, it's not the first time she's been "robbed" this year.

If you need me to be more blunt, let me know. However, Robi's post is a great start.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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scooby_1781 says on Sep 10, 2007, 12:47:

People like Colombiche who have to catoragize others and put people down only so that they can feel superior to them shows their prejudice and feeling of superiority. It does not matter what background a person comes from whether they are decent people or not. Its the well off that always look down upon the poor when they themselves are the cause of the seperation of the classes. She posted "I won't tell you anymore things that you don't want to hear, keep believing what you want to believe." you just keep telling yourself that, that is why you decided to attack verbaly a decent and very good person. I really don't give a shit whether you think she is lying or not. My only regret is ever posting what happened to my dear friend thinking that it may help someone else and not happen to them. Some people only see the evil in others maybe I am naive but its my life so keep your negative crap to yourselves.

"SEMPER FI"

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 13:05:

Scooby, we've offered our sincere condolences for the situation. I did not have the impression Colombiche was trying to put other people down, not at all. Rather that the description of the event is melodramatic -- I agree tragedies are often dramatic. I work in an emergency department and see a great deal of tragedy. Occasionally the most melodramatic stories are the ones where the truth has been embellished. Pointing out this unfortunate side of human nature may seem negative, but is not in itself élitist, evil, delusional, badly intentioned nor vindictive. And Colombiche certainly is none of these things. The Internet is not a trusted friend, and the advice you get in a public forum is not always unfiltered or diplomatic, as you well know. Only you know the very decent and very good person involved. Our sympathies, but keep an open mind.

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 13:12:

I am not attacking your girlfriend verbally, YOU are attacking me verbally scooby.

Look, I don't even know why I am wasting my precious time trying to clue you in. At least you can take my suggestion and say "mmm, I'll keep than in mind" instead of getting all defensive.

You guys are seriously twisting things by making it look as though this is about class. What a feeble argument. Anybody that is familiar with my cyberpersona over the past two years knows I don't give a crap about class, colour, sexual preferences or religion. I also don't put myself on a moral pedestal. Everything I say I say flat out and I am anything but a hypocrite.

Me categorizing and judging others? As far as I can remember you are the one that spews your christian rhetoric about how gays/women who have abortions etc etc are going to burn in hell,so spare me the bullshit. I don't know where the hell people here get the idea that I am from well off family, you really have not idea about the harsh things I have endured. I have been around the block a few times, that is why I have street smarts and can spot a conartist a mile away. I am also colombian, which probably gives me a bit more insight than you have, colombians are good people, but the bad ones are very smooth and can take the socks off your feet while you have your shoes on.

Anyhow, I'm done, believe what you want to believe, you are right, mayyyyyyyyyyybbee the story is true.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Cerealkiller says on Sep 10, 2007, 13:50:

Im with Colombiche here. She never insinuated poor people were less honest, she never put anyone down...you guys get pissed off because she is calling things by their name.

RussianFred your comment on rich people making all their money off drugs...what is wrong with you? Someone rejected you or your gf's application to the country club? Colombia is no different than the US, tons of people made their money honestly, working hard, getting an education...some others made money doing shady stuff...

Strata2, you are reading too much in between the lines, Colombiche never said poor women were full of deceit, she didnt even insinuate something of the sort...Chill out, nobody is bashing lower estratos here...

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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Colombiche says on Sep 10, 2007, 14:17:

Anyway, I'm out of this stupid ass thread. Scooby just sent me an email telling me to "fuck off bitch".

I don't need some hypocritical, bible thumping john to be telling me to fuck off just because I tried to point out the obvious.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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RAAAY says on Sep 10, 2007, 14:19:

Yeah..........you tell em Scooby...................the events as you outlined them are obviously true. The fact is that, 7 out of 10 times it would be a crock of shit..........but you know your lady.............so she is one of the 3.

Who was it that said.." trust everybody.....but always cut the cards "

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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robi666 says on Sep 10, 2007, 14:23:

What happened to this thread?

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RAAAY says on Sep 10, 2007, 14:47:

The thread was mugged...............send money for medicine...........

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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tampavallenato says on Sep 10, 2007, 15:19:

With you folks on here we need to rename the site to( As the Forum turns) or (The days of our forum) Tune in for Tomorrows episode when blah blah blah happens.

Ay Hombe!!!

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tampavallenato says on Sep 10, 2007, 15:45:

Scooby - I just let my Wife read what happened to your girl but not what others had to say. She is from Medellin born and raised. She at once said that she did not believe what happened. I say if it did happen, Im sad for your girl. if it did not really happen i'm sad for you either way someone got hit over the head.

Ay Hombe!!!

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gabolicious says on Sep 10, 2007, 19:10:

oh wow!!! this had gone wild!!!!

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

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Brians says on Sep 11, 2007, 08:43:

I am jumping on here which I generally don't do. Anyway We all know for a fact that Scooby met her while he was searching for hookers at the Medellin Mansion. Therefore Strata2 Robi is correct in suspecting her story and he is not sterotyping but just pointing out things that raise flags. Secondly Scooby loves to talk about how he has found Jesus now and prays with his girl via telephone etc.. However then he sends Colombiche a FU email (Really Christian) and posts YESTERDAY on another PBHers Profile who was asking for information on a taxi driver to pick him at the airport.
"I talked to him yesterday and he asked me to spread the information that he is more than willing to take you on excursions to Manizales, Pereira, Armenia etc. to enhance your Colombian mongering experience." I am not as Catholic as my wife wishes I were but I don't know if my priest would think referring people help on how to "Monger" is very Chritian. Lastly but not leastly does Scooby just assume everyone on here or a majority are "Mongers"?? I mean I had seen no indication that this is what that PBHer was asking and if am correct I think this guy had an apartment previously in Medellin as well as a girlfriend and simply had to work in the USA for the last few months.

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toneloc24 says on Sep 11, 2007, 13:54:

I side 100% with Colombiche's, Rubito, and others who call BS, on this story.

Here's part of the other side of the story with the original poster. This is what this dude deals with.

It's his thread, see where it leads. - http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/-beware-medellin-mansion/

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Medellin Traveler says on Sep 11, 2007, 14:03:

okay, I'm late to the thread but from my opinion is that the chemicals in Scooby's head are wreaking havoc and distorting his better judgement. I too call it a bullshit story in an effort to get him to Western Union. This happens all too often with gringos falling in love with a young beautiful Latin woman in a foreign country, because they think she is different than all the rest.. Lucky them,"F" everyone else who thinks different.

The only problem I see is that sometimes you have to learn things the hard way, on your own..

Less we forget, LOVE is BLIND!

La cuidad de la primavera, estoy feliz porque te vuelvo a ver - www.medellintraveler.com

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