Maybe I look Like a Bum

Lauthra says on Jul 15, 2007, 00:45:

I've heard it can also be cos there are too many blokes in the club and not enough women...Try not wearing trainers.

Nato (='.'=)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:01:

jaja very funny - Not american sorry : so trainers are not part of my stepping out shoes collection!!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:02:

post a photo of yourself so we can offer **suggestions** to improve your entry rate....jajajajj....it will be like a PBH Gong Show......jajajajaj...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:03:

maybe they are acting like LA clubs......doormen are looking to supplement their income.....?

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:43:

If i do that then you will only say I should never be allowed entry to any club in Bogota jaja. Maybe they are trying to supplement their incomes but I think maybe?? other extranjeros dont have problems with these clubs and getting in?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

goin_south says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:48:

....jajajajj....it will be like a PBH Gong Show......jajajajaj...
2 Funny, M_C... I hope scotty doesn't read this thread....Oh, oh... he's gotcha blocked... no preocupado, amigo.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 15, 2007, 01:55:

knowing scotty being so paranoid and all, i am sure he will continue reading my posts...paranoids are like that...they cant stand NOT knowing......jajajaj


bickerss, i was just kidding....are you an obvious gringo? are they letting colombians in at the same time? do you speak spanish to understand why they are not letting you in?..i know in some clubs in BAQ i could not get in on Friday nights only...saturdays were no problem.....then i found out that you had to call in on fridays and reserve a table and tell them how many people would be in your party......not saying that is happening here, but all the clubs in parts of LA maintain a "selective" guest list......

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

0 funny, 0 helpful.

goin_south says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:12:

Clavo_Clavo.... I think I'm also GONG to put you on ignore... tu necesite su suenos, amigo. necesite los suenos de Carlos Castenada...quiza...jejee

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:19:

It has to be something......maybe you should take a lady friend and you wont have a problem, you dont have to be dating the girl, just ask a nice young woman if she goes out and maybe they will think that you are helping your daughter into the club, well ya, that might not work either.....I am out of idea's goin south, you got any advice for him?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

goin_south says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:37:

I think he probably needs to stop cross-dressing....;)

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:38:

M-C - thanks. Look as gringo as they come and Yeah, speak enough spanish to get by. It was usually just ''members only ''' where I said again, '' la verdad, No puedo entrar?'' and then a no from the doorman / chick. Some times other combians were getting in - especially in Gotica. For Socorro I was with a nice lady friend. Never had trouble in any other city, incl Baranquilla (best nightlife in that town by the way, La Quinta - closed now - and Frogless rock). Maybe I get there to late - jaja or maybe it is just the way I dress jajaj

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:52:

Post the picture, it cant be that bad, but i think we could for sure atleast give you a little explanation....... you dont have hair plugs do you?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 02:58:

haha - no, I dont have hair plugs - will leave that for a few more years - dont wear sneakers out either!! however could potentially appear a little under the weather after irish pub and BBC beers!!! maybe thats it!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 03:06:

if you tuck your shirt in and dont wear a belt that might be another thing......... I have never been held back from entering a club in colombia and have been there 6 or so times for 2-3 weeks at a time........hmmm, but again I am 21 years old, got a little style and usually have a bad lookin girl with me, until recently when I got a fiance....

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 03:13:

ahh - that aint it either - I dont make those fopars jaja. The ''old'' normal gringo type frequented clubs i never had a problem ie Mr Babillas, Salto del Angel, Kukamakra (normally), Sand, Maria Mulatta, Africafe, Cinemea, BBC, Irish, Crabs, Lunabar etc etc. Have u been to the ones I mentioned?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on Jul 15, 2007, 03:20:

Wow how unusual! If you were in Miami at South Beach and attemtping to enter some of those Asshole Uppity Clubs on South Beach its easily believable but Bogota--please don't tell me these Clubs are in that Zona Rosa Barrio,,,If they are, I would say they did you a Favor,,,LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 03:36:

they are in Parque 93 and Zona Rosa. Might be me - just checking if other gringo types had problems as well.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 03:37:

I cant say I have ever been to Bogota, but I have been to many countries in my short time on this world, Dubai, Colombia, France, Turkey, Italy, states ( Miami night clubs) I just wish you would post the picture, I wont get on you, i will tell you the truth......I want to help you, i dont need colombians looking at you and thinkin bad of me because how you dress, I want to help you out....

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:05:

Hate to say it might be reservation night happen to me in one place in Medellin you needed a reservation...on a Friday night...Happened to me but did not care there so many other places that were good..

Or there were too many guys in the club....

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:11:

jaja - when I get one from my laptop will load it - i am at the office now . But i dress normally (i think!!). 57 countries and as yet only rejected in Bogota as per the above, Singapore in some Japanese only club (all i wanted was sushi!!), and bars in a small town in Holland - admitably though I dont try and get onto those swanky miami type clubs or my list might be a lot longer!!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:22:

You have not been rejected in South Beach....Everybody has in South Beach...at least a few times...

I get in only because in the Corporate Event Business I get VIP without buying a bottle..in South Beach but don't go anymore and have not been S.Beach for about three years and only go to Lauderdale Clubs if I go..Cheaper and less JAPS...

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:39:

it's not just you bickerss, I was turned away at gotica (or told it was like 50 USD to get in) and I think that socorro place. I don't bother asking why. When I hear 'are you on the list?' I just leave.

I've never been turned away anywhere else in the world except Toronto. Not in london, NYC, Tokyo, St Tropez, Cannes etc...

Bogota is becoming a lousy place to have fun. Reminding me of what I left behind. I swear there are more gringos in zona rosa bars than locals.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:44:

Great comment Pod...Thats right just leave don't need that crap..Thats all end of story.

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:51:

luckily there are so many clubs in Bogotá that you just walk 10 yards to the next one. But I really get the feeling it's just the start of a big decline.

It's all over, *snif *, time to find a new place.

this time I am going to follow GIBs advice and not tell anyone about it. I can't believe how fast things changed here?

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:51:

Hmmmm I have only been to south beach 3 times and all 3 times I was down there I never had a problem with getting into the clubs, well twice I was with my friend Jordan Palmer who's brother is carson Palmer for the Cincinatti bengels....... hmmmm I wonder if that is why, we did skip the long line at mansion. :-)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:52:

if you stay at any decent hotel in south beach you get comp passes for mansion or tantra or wherever

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 04:59:

Correct Pod....Fuck Tantra damn that place is expensive...Fucking few strings of asparagus is 25.00..to eat as a side dishe and the I think the Lamb Chop was 60.00.. Bart and G is cheaper and has better food..

Anyways maybe that is becoming a trend in Medellin and Bogota..The nightlife is getting know all over the place..Party animals now are talking about Medellin..and only 3 hours from MIA>>>

Its only time..

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:02:

I dont try to go to high class clubs just things i like, Pawn shop, cielo, the fifth, manision, those are all good clubs to me....... If it is about status then they have plenty of clubs where you have to be invited, but because you like the music and enviornment then you will be good almost anywhere, that is almost, i guess not bogota, but i will see in Oct.....

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:06:

yeah dave tantra is ridiculous. I only went once as it was supposed to be 'the' place. Not much going on when I was there, and the food was average at best. Think dinner and drinks for 2 was $250 USD.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:09:

Maybe Bogota is becoming to much of a yuppie type place. I have not been recently but have heard Cha Cha also needs an ''approved list'' to get in the door.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:17:

honestly bickerss, if didn't have friends here, I wouldn't come back, at least not for a long while. (BTW, I think that place is 'scirocco' ?)

I liked Bogotá because it was so different, lots of people would chat with you just to ask what the hell you were doing here. Now it's just like any other city. I still like it, but time to move on, find something new and interesting.

I'll come back but probably just stop in on my way to somewhere else. If anyone knows wher that is, please PM me. I promise I won't tell anyone!: )

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:38:

Pod, suggest you try Manizales, Armenia or Periera. Great places, friendly people, and rarely see any other foreigners.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:43:

shhhh! thanks bickerss, those spots were on my list. I'm also thinking I'd like to explore Bolivia too.

I should probably try Paraguay as well, 'cause I have not heard anything good about it. I don't think ANYBODY goes there.

unfortunately, I don't have much free time right now : (

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 05:57:

Try El Salvador - my fav country in Central America. Great nightlife, great beaches, friendly people, as well san salnador can be very modern ie the shopping centres etc were awsome. Uses USD too!!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 06:06:

Damn bro, I just looked at your page, you should be telling us how to get into night spots with how many places you have been too. What kind of work are you into, I do logistics in the Middle East......

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 06:15:

same same bud. Work between middle east and africa. 6 weeks here (now in Baghdad) 6 weeks in (usually) colombia.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bamapits3 says on Jul 15, 2007, 06:21:

what company, I am in Al Asad ) Al anbar province.......

0 funny, 0 helpful.

goin_south says on Jul 15, 2007, 09:27:

Hey Bickerss, when they start turning you away at your own hotel, then YOU'LL KNOW YA GOT a problem....jejee..

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

0 funny, 0 helpful.

goin_south says on Jul 15, 2007, 09:28:

You weren't wearing an Al Gore mask that night, were ya??

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Conchale Vale!! says on Jul 15, 2007, 11:31:

I think there is couple reasons here. First as GIB commented it does has to do with maintaining a hip image. But also I believe it has to do with maintaining a base of similar clients. For example i would believe bamapits has had few problems getting into clubs in south beach...why he is 21 and fits the scene. Unfortunately I am getting to damn old to fit in everywhere!! But I do believe you should be able to go where ever you please. I don't know all of those clubs however if I recall Gotica is a electro/techno type club. The average age 20-30 if your over 40 pushing 50 you'll look like a college kid in a day care. Also going to a disco alone is a rare thing anywhere I went in Latin America. Everyone goes in groups..it looks strange to be in a disco without amigos or amigas and leaves the question why. If you go to more of a bar type environment then solo is better and age is less important. Mind you i am not saying anyone is old here just my 2 cents

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Lauthra says on Jul 15, 2007, 12:57:

Also trying not getting there too late, when the place is already so crowded they don't anyone else in! Can't think of anything else.

Nato (='.'=)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on Jul 15, 2007, 13:25:

I could never understand why some Americans travel thousands of Miles ONLY to go to a Tourist Nightclub area like Zona Rosa to run into more Americans. Why Go on Vacation or Travel in the first place if your goal is to socialize with those you have just left behind?? WHy not stay in the States? You can get that right in Miami,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Lauthra says on Jul 15, 2007, 14:03:

Well, Bickers is Australian. But I do see a lot of what you're talking about Miamimike, 'tis very silly.

Nato (='.'=)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 14:10:

You can get the Latin scene and partying right here in Miami..without even a passport but you know what many gringos do that...from NY,Boston, Northern Cities fly right into Miami because they get great deals on a flight and hotel you need to shop..Miami Beach can be not as expensive as long as you stay from the trendy restaurants thats a killer in your pocket..Clubs easy trust drink before you get in..

Funny many Latins come to South Beach to party for a vacation..from S.America..

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

miamimike says on Jul 15, 2007, 14:56:

Panthdave, but the Good Colombian Bars aren't even in South Beach and they are a lot cheaper in other areas, lots of free Parking, no tourists ect.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

morphus says on Jul 15, 2007, 15:49:

"Funny many Latins come to South Beach to party for a vacation..from S.America.."

I once met 2 fat Colombianas in Miami. They were on vacation and from Colombia. What a disgrace! One was so fat she could barely walk. They wanted me to go to a club with them. No way! I let them take pictures of me though.

I also met some hot chicas in Miami on vacaion from Argentina and Uraguey.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 15:55:

Morphus Morphus...How did you meet two gorda chicas from Colombia only you....You never know Papa probably has alot of money and you should of pimped yourself out to them..

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

morphus says on Jul 15, 2007, 15:56:

I was turned away from a club the first time I went to Medellin. They said it was too crowded. In Colombia you can be treated like royalty one minute and like a fly the next.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 15, 2007, 16:24:

Only been turned away once in Medellin forgot the place was a reservation only place..Oh I have told the Door Guy at Folia to screw himself when he wouldn't give me a discount..was 1:00AM and I always buy two bottles of Tequila..he knew me but he was in a bad mood I guess so I went down the street to Santos and had no problem they gave me a discount at the door. All the other clubs in Medellin so many never have a problem..Damn I forgot the place was a trendy restaurant/club in Parque Llares you have to walk upstairs and the theme decor is all white...

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

c2 says on Jul 15, 2007, 18:54:

I was turned away at Gavana once ("private party" on a Thursday?), but I was with another gringo and my Colombian amiga. Personally, I think they don't want too many gringos in there. My gringo buddy has also been turned away numerous times at Invitro. Soroco is a dressy place, but it surprises me that they turned you away.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

pedro says on Jul 15, 2007, 19:49:

Bogota policy -- even in more down to earth places, I have noticed a policy not to let in lone guys once it gets late. The doorman figures the guy is probably drunk and is just going to immediately pester the girls and cause trouble. Mixed groups are better cause they get a table, buy a bottle and socailise within their group.

My advice: go as part of a mixed group, arrive early, dress nicely and you should be fine.

que nota!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 15, 2007, 20:43:

you can go to many bars and clubs in zona rosa and p 93 and never see a gringo type person - zona rosa and p 93 are popular for a reason, they have some good bars and restaurants. Have not seen any in Maria Mulata zoan rosa, the 80s bar down from coconuts, sand in 93, the disco near macas in 93 - plenty of places that are free of extranjeros. Also, sometimes it is nice to speak to people from your own country culture - whats wrong with that; sometimes its just great to be able to speak your own language, about things that are common without having to speak slow or explain yourself - especially when u never live in your own country.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

gringolondinense says on Jul 16, 2007, 05:59:

I saw a documentary about clubs in London. One club only lets "young and fashionable" people in. The TV crew asked the doormen whats fashionable and they said it varies week to week, so you have to pull out all the creative stops to look funky and smart just to get in the foquin door. And yep, they dont like tooo many guys in. Foq em all I say.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

esanch36 says on Jul 16, 2007, 06:28:

Most clubs you have to come with girls to get in...

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

0 funny, 0 helpful.

bickerss says on Jul 16, 2007, 06:48:

For Socorro I was with a very nice looking lady.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Lostgringo says on Jul 16, 2007, 07:07:

I have limited experience going to clubs in Colombia. However, I have had allot of experience going to clubs in the past in Canada. I would always have "payolla money (sp). Often I would go to the front of line and shake the bouncer's hand. I would of course have a twenty dollar bill or more in my hand at the same time. It worked every time. Bounces/doormen do not get allot of money for what they do and greasing their palm does help and is a common preactice. They see a gringo and think...hmmm maybe he has a little extra for me. I have never failed with my tactic....never! I guess it is all up to you whether or not you will pay extra for preferential treatment. I remember one time there was a line up two blocks long for a club. I greased the bouncer's palm and he had a guy take me through their kitchen to get to the venue. Hell if police take kickbacks don't you think these doormen will? Loosen up Bickers and spend some of your wealth lol.

Bickers there is no way you were refused because of the way you dress. I know you and you do not dress like a bum. You were not refused because you were drunk. I know you can drink my friend and still hold your own. In my humble opinion, the doorman wanted a little gratuity from you. Forget the list thing....just grease their palms lol.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

0 funny, 0 helpful.

kalder says on Jul 16, 2007, 08:19:

"Foq em all I say."

Quite right. Give me a pub any day.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 16, 2007, 11:57:

Very true Gringo......Pubs and my apartment is my style to have some drinks and music..


Like I said I don't know why maybe I am blind but during the day maybe see one Gringo in Medellin they must all come out at night like vampires..

I am usually with my GF and a group so maybe thats why I have no problems..and also they know I order a few bottles..

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

Man Tequila says on Jul 16, 2007, 13:00:

Morphus is dead, balls on, right when he says in Medellin you are treated like royalty one minute and a fly the next. This is largely true of Colombia too. Some of the fly treatment is jealousy, some of it is ignorance, some of it is jingoism, some of it is the assumption that all tourists are ignorant about what the real Colombia is like. I still am -- I've always had enough to eat. I have posted a lot on this board and I hope some of my genuine love for Colombia shines through. But Colombia is a very schizophrenic sort of country -- divided, inconsistent, manic-depressive, live for the moment... and this is its greatest asset and greatest weakness.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

0 funny, 0 helpful.

panthdave says on Jul 16, 2007, 13:10:

Your forgot Colombia lives minute by minute...Seems like they don't care about return customers and overall amount you will spend with them....If they have enough business for that minute they seem not remember how much money you spent the other night...I noticed this trend...In Miami I know I can get in anywhere really because they all know I will buy a couple bottles..of liquor..but in Medellin if they have somebody for that night buying 4 bottles they seem to forgot about the person that buys 2 bottles per night..and don't look overall that you buy 6 bottles for the week in there club.. There are execeptions to the rule and I am throwing this out...there cause I thinking about this theory lately..

panthdave Miami

0 funny, 0 helpful.

podborski says on Jul 16, 2007, 13:38:

I'm way past discos but still like places like el sitio and kukuramakara, which have live vallenato.

Years ago I was in London and went to the Hippodrome, which was the place to be at the time. Huge lineup in front. No one getting in. I'm not usually one to bother but I was on my own and so walked up to the doorman and started to explain that I was a tourist, just visiting for a short time, before I said more than 'I'm visiting from Canada' he had hoisted up the velvet rope and waved me through, told me I didn't have to pay the cover.

So I tried the same thing again at other hotspots (uhh what was that other one? Peter Stringfellows ?) and same thing, waved past the crowds of much hipper people (but I had to pay the cover).

I think it must be a deliberate policy to let in the odd tourist so they spread the word of the great clubs back home or something? I never did figure out why it worked.

I tried it in NYC and had some suceess there too, especially phoning ahead for reservations for the latest hot restaurant (Balthazar, Tribeca Grill, Montrachet, this was eons ago) that were supposedly booked full for months in advance. Call a few days before the weekend even. Soon as you say you are flying in from wherever, you get a table.

And if all else fails, the $20 (probably $50 now?) hidden in your palm exactly as lostgringo described (never make it obvious, puts the doorman in a bad spot, and doing it discretely seems to say you know what's what) never fails.

0 funny, 0 helpful.

slguy says on Jul 16, 2007, 15:29:

Who was it that said "Any club that would have me as a member, I want no part of!"? ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

0 funny, 0 helpful.

billyb says on Jul 16, 2007, 15:42:

Groucho

0 funny, 0 helpful.