Marrying a Colombian man

elreydelostrolls says on May 5, 2007, 12:44:

There's gotta be a story there but first let's introduce you to a PBH poster named Pow Wow.

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Gator says on May 5, 2007, 13:19:

ROTFLMAO nt

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mecca says on May 5, 2007, 13:20:

That's exactly right Cinders though I fail to see the problem with the above. Thank god the men of Colombia have not given away their country the way the gringos have. Thank GOD !!!!!!!!

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sweet160 says on May 5, 2007, 13:32:

Does this work also the ... other way around? If a Gringo man marry a Colombian women, its ok to cheat on her? Her family will accept this and expects the Col. wife to turn that o so great blind eye? You father in law takes you to the putas after the first day of marriage?

If so, Count me in! ;)

" its a dog eat dog world, and I will eat your dog! "

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mecca says on May 5, 2007, 13:39:

If you've got money you are king. I've got a colombian friend that is very well off, 1000 meter homes todo. I remember watching a 20 year old dime trying to talk her way into one of my friend's houses for like a half hour. He finally let her (only after her hot friend showed up) in and she was so thankful to come in and hang out for the day. She'd come back every time he called, with the friend. Ahhhhh Colombia.

Men with money OWN IT !!

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candelaria says on May 5, 2007, 13:43:

Biased, one sided story There are 45 million people in Colombia, and you judge the entire population just because something happened to you?That is a very biased and prejudiced point of view, as well as one sided story.
everywhere you go, you will find good and bad people! cheaters and faithful!

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vicshere says on May 5, 2007, 13:44:

cinders=powpow come on pow pow you cant fool us

listo

listo

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CaritadeAngel says on May 5, 2007, 14:01:

Nah, you need to think like a EUROPEAN Just make sure you aren't home when he gets back.

Then remind him that if he walks into a bar looking for sex, he hs 60% of success (assuming a good night). But if YOU do the same, what are YOUR chances. Yup. 150% (even if, like me, you are now only attractive to old donkey-handlers in BAQ).

So you got seduced by a charmer who wanted an exotic experience and then found out you were timesharing him- welcome to the real world. Charmers are dangerous, in any culture. Fell for that once, never again. Now I have antibodies to charming bastards sloshing through every vein. My ears are carefully honed bullshit detectors.

Personally, a man who has not the guts and spine to love one woman to me is a coward and a fool. I declare him my enemy.

Then there are the old standbys. Industrial stength laxative chocolate pudding (not for me querido, I'm on a diet) Calling up all his friends and telling him he's gay (photoshopping some pics might come in handy here)... no no, you see (sob) I'm not leaving him because he was with other WOMEN...sob sob...THAT I could take ...sob..sob...its just that he likes to wear my panties and makes me call him Celia when we're alone together....AND I JUST CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE..."

Or my personal favourite - the Aji Handjob. Up close and nasty.

If you don't want to grow horns, lads, DON'T PLANT THEM.

And hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn.

ElRey, now that was funny. They'd be perfect for each other.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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Wastelandlive says on May 5, 2007, 14:13:

Cinders Reading your prose it like slowly piercing my eyeball with a rusty screw.

Wasteland

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sweet160 says on May 5, 2007, 14:19:

Wasteland, I had the same but with CaritadeA. post...

" its a dog eat dog world, and I will eat your dog! "

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CaritadeAngel says on May 5, 2007, 14:21:

Evil Grin...Sweet One tries ones best. Pass the tabasco, someone?

"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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kalder says on May 5, 2007, 14:30:

CA What are you doing here on a Saturday night? The Calibans are creeping out from under the gaberdine. You're young, get down the pub and enjoy yourself hen :)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 5, 2007, 14:48:

Carita, we've had a few Celtic lasses here before, always gutsy, always well-spoken, always a lot of fun to read. Have you been here before, under a different name?

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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percy says on May 5, 2007, 15:06:

BUCARAMANGA I would like to talk to people from Bucarmanga. I will be moving to Colombia in 2008. I heard it is a very beautiful city. I have been to the costal cities. I have seen all the beaches an hurricanes i want to see in the U.S.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 5, 2007, 15:09:

Yup once, But ages ago, before I got to Colombia and I had to delete my entire email account because it was being spammed unto the ends of the earth, then I forgot my password, then I forgot my name.

Kalder...yup I am young and I also have a deadline. My current social activities are actully limited, not by mosquitos, dodgy old men or a sudden addiction to PBH, but by MA and the fact I am saving myself for my graduation day.

Hen?

Kalder, you make me all sniffy for home.

"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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adrienne79 says on May 5, 2007, 15:18:

Jajajajaja! I could say the exact same about my exhusband and his family. Oh and he was a gringo. you can't generalize all colombians the same. I look forward to getting married to mi colombiano this summer.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 5, 2007, 15:46:

I kind of recognized your style carita de angel, I think you called yourself doña something?

Cheers,
Desi



"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elreydelostrolls says on May 5, 2007, 16:03:

I know where you're coming from on forgetting your name. I've forgotten mine several times.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 5, 2007, 16:14:

Could be cant remember - long time ago.
Really have a bad memory for names. Dunno, should just stick to one handle for everything, and then have a wierd "split personality" thing going :D


"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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miamimike says on May 5, 2007, 21:43:

Cinders--Put him on this Web SIte and Share him with the World Seems like Miami Has a Lot of Entries-put him there for starters, if he isn't already on the Miami Page! LOL http://dontdatehimgirl.com/

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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goin_south says on May 6, 2007, 01:27:

No como se llama?

Why Colombianitas? Personally... I just don't like pink areolar tissue.

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scotty says on May 6, 2007, 01:49:

well cinder sounds like you may have had a bad experience?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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houstongal says on May 6, 2007, 13:08:

Generalizations Cinder's comment certainly reeks of one woman's perspective and a lot of it could be generalized to men anywhere! I did notice the word "majority" in one of Cinder's sentences. So for all those women dating/married to Colombian men, perhaps your man is in the minority. If so, be grateful.

My understanding is that good Colombian men are hard to find, and there are many more available women than good men. Therefore, it's not surprising to hear him complain of women throwing themselves at him. Temptations seem to be plentiful (all those guys looking for women can take note). He also complains that the women are looking for men with money (hmmm...yet another generalization, which could be applied to women from other countries).

I just found this website today. I understand that y'all could use more female voices. I hope to get involved in this little community from time to time.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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aztec says on May 6, 2007, 13:19:

houstongal, yes we do need more women. Be strong and don't be put off by the locker room chatter. Don't take the bait!

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elreydelostrolls says on May 6, 2007, 13:22:

Be strong, Houstongal, be strong!

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Robert Jorge says on May 6, 2007, 19:14:

Welcome aboard houstongal.
Welcome aboard houstongal.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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frankdeboca says on May 6, 2007, 20:14:

Wow... In spite of your obvious personal pain attached to this posting I must agree with some reservation to your premise. I have seen many men in Colombia espouse this expectation in a relationship, but to be honest I have seen the same thing here in the good ole' USA with barflys and crazy nights in Vegas, South Beach, Bahamas or Jamaica. US men cheat in Costa Rica and the women cheat in Jamaica - like a right of passage. And we don't rule the world in divorces for nothing. Of course the Europeans are catching up fast and let's not even begin to discuss the way Brazileans play that game.

I guess what I am saying is that not all Colombian men are like that, and in the end men are men all over the world. In the end have a good prenup and and just keep reminding him of the 1/2 of everything you'll get plus the alimony and whatever else your US attorney can come up with.

No guarantees in life or love... go in with your eyes open wide and watch for the little tell tale signs - same as you would an American man you are dating. My father said it best for me when he said "... if you aren't 100% sure and don't trust 100% than listen to your gut and avoid the pain..."

Good luck either way...

~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

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sweet160 says on May 7, 2007, 00:42:

Eddy Murphy's Raw Flashback


"In the end have a good prenup and and just keep reminding him of the 1/2 of everything you'll get plus the alimony and whatever else your US attorney can come up with."

HALF...! I'LL TAKE HALVE OF HIS SHIT! America is such a sweet country, I love it! (to observe from outside that is). Starting a marriage based on the fact if he does something wrong, he will have to pay up. What man wouldn't like to get in to such a epic romantic love affair....? I pity the fool...

" its a dog eat dog world, and I will eat your dog! "

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houstongal says on May 7, 2007, 06:34:

Thanks for the welcome! Locker room chatter makes life a bit more fun, so I really don't mind. As for strength...that's not something I lack. But every now and then I probably could use some support so it's nice y'all are out there.

I agree with frankdeboca, always watch for those little signs. Don't discount them too quickly as being cultural differences. If needed, test the boundary to see if reality is different from appearances.

And as for the comment about taking 50%...it works both ways. If you're the strong woman making the big bucks, you could lose 50% of everything as well. And that includes your pension benefits. Ouch!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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webmanco says on May 7, 2007, 07:11:

Just to keep in tone with the Globalization thread, some individuals believe that marrying people from other countries it is a plus, in most cases I would disagree.

I wish good luck to those envolving in such tasks. Kudos to those in a multi-cultural relationship.

Sometimes it does not work right even within marriages where both parties speaks the same mother languages, let alone with different language and religion.

Even thoug I am an open minded man, if I am to tight the knot it will be with a Colombian woman.

Welcome aboard HoustonGal, just in case you miss the thead on Women in PBH here is the link. (Aquí)

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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CaritadeAngel says on May 7, 2007, 08:04:

If only machista was like this...bring it on. Love - real love - requires guts and courage. Habitual cheaters are spineless cowards. I never do business with them. A man who cheats on his wife will cheat a business partner.

Love says this. There will be more beautiful women. Their will be more facinating women. But you are MY woman, my lover, companion of my heart, you are my reason for my life's labours, my world is better because you are in it. What makes you different from all the other women is that you are YOU, and you are mine. If I was offered the choice of 60 million dollars, or you, I would choose you. I will love you and honour you and protect you with my last breath. I'm a better man because you are my woman, and our love is worth fighting for because we built it together.

Love does not say "but I will visit the putas/bang my secretary in a love hotel/ listen to my mum before I listen to you/ keep a secret stash of Brazillian porn in the attick/ have my mistresses in my own country and be pure as the driven snow in yours".

Colombiano or Gringo, if any of the men here who moan about their lonliness, bad marriages, lack of love etc this is the reason. You're behaving like...how do the Americans put it .. yeah, like wussies.

Ya petetulant spoiled mummy's boy! Call yourself a man? May a thousand ants invade your underwear drawer!

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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morphus says on May 7, 2007, 10:00:

Its still possible to cheat on your wife and still love her. I know one guy that got drunk and cheated on his wife only one time. He felt so guilty and admitted it to his wife. She would have never found out otherwise. She never forgave him and they got divorced. He was very brave but he would have been better off if he went the cowardly way and kept quiet.

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Wastelandlive says on May 7, 2007, 11:05:

Hey CaritadeAngel... In the interest of full disclosure, I feel compelled to point out to you that if forced to choose between you and $60M, I'm taking the cash.

No hard feeling? See you on the Riviera!

Wasteland

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CaritadeAngel says on May 7, 2007, 12:16:

Fine, but I'm worth much more than that...
Hey Waste, the words " last coca-cola in the desert" spring to mind.


"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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podborski says on May 7, 2007, 12:32:

the $60 million or me question is a perfect example of why men and women have problems.

Every man looks at these (pointless hypothetical) questions and says 'I'll take the $60 million, and then meet you secretly in my new villa in Italy'.

And the woman takes his amswer as an indication that he's not in love with her. The woman leaves and the guy scratches his head. "She left me over the answer to a hypothetical question? Oh well, better off without that bs in my life."

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Buongone says on May 7, 2007, 15:08:

As for Retirement ! I cannot count the marriages that I have seen fail. So it's no different in Colombia, or the states. I am a Teamster. I know for a fact that when it comes to divorce and retirement, the woman is only entitled to half the amount that was put into the retirement plan when they were together. As for the other 50%, Cannot comment on that. Seeming I've been single all my life. But I have me a fine Colombiana that I will marry one of these days. Colombiana's are so much better of a choice over American women, in my book. If I'm going to get married, and down the road, (God Forbid), I get divorced. I will have done it with a Colombiana and not some Liberal Bitchy GoldDigger from the States.

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miamimike says on May 7, 2007, 15:24:

Buongone here in Florida A wife is entitled to Half of the Assets accumulated during the marriage. This includes, amongst other tangible appreciating assets, the appreciation on a Home owned during a marriage, no small item in Florida today. BTW, include Latinas(Colombianas also) with the American Woman when it comes to Gold Digger status-they learn the "Ropes" pronto when they arrive here! Forget all about that "Oh I'm not interested in what you have, if you are rich or poor" BS --its simply not true! Thats the BS they put on those Marriage Agency forms when asked about their interests but its not true. Makes good reading though, untrue it may be! LOL Make sure you protect yourself with a good through Pre-Nup agreement in both langauges!

BTW-6 out of 10 marriages between American Couples who share the same culture and langauge fail; considering these Facts, what do you suppose the Divorce Rate would be between couples who share neither a Culture or common langauge? Bet your last dollar it will be higher then 6 out of 10,,,

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 7, 2007, 19:34:

Not a hypothesis.
Nope. A met a man once in asia who was given a straight choice. You marry her we cut you off, or you marry the girl we choose for you and you get the 60 million. This is not hypothetical.

He chose her, saying "screw you, thats MY woman, I'll make my own".

Que hombre!

"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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mecca says on May 7, 2007, 19:41:

I'd say it's not reall a choice Carita 60 million !! WOW, now that's what I call economic enticement.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 7, 2007, 20:06:

But it so was...

"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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mecca says on May 7, 2007, 20:10:

I'm not doubting you, just thinking the man must have been wealthy on his own. Si?

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 7, 2007, 21:21:

Not in California, Buongone... "I know for a fact that when it comes to divorce and retirement, the woman is only entitled to half the amount that was put into the retirement plan when they were together."

She is entitled to that amount you mention, and a percentage of the payout from the Union money based on her % of the contribution...AND, she can even demand her money BEFORE you are eligible to collect your pension!!!

With our union pension, many guys have the choice of either (even before they are eligible for collecting):

1. keeping the equity built up in the house they bought together, keeping in mind the huge equity built up over time in the hot Calif real estate market, OR

2. keeping their entire payout of their pension for the lifespan of the pension payout...

after a long term marriage or cohabitation, the amounts are pretty close for us...it used to be as you described in CA but is no longer that way....=(



Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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kalder says on May 8, 2007, 02:30:

"Habitual cheaters are spineless cowards. I never do business with them. A man who cheats on his wife will cheat a business partner."

Probity in business matters and marital fidelity are completely different things. To conflate them is emotionalism, nothing more.

In my experience, some of the most untrustworthy players in the professional world are religious types. Their sexual continence may be scrupulous, but I've encountered more than one of them who think nothing of screwing people (so to speak) in the workplace.

(Having said that, I'm not condemning religion per se. Equally, some of the finest people I've met have been religious).

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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elreydelostrolls says on May 8, 2007, 05:48:

Speaking of religous types, one thing I've noticed on the highway is that if you see a car with one of those fish symbols on the back telling everyone that they're a born again, you can count on that driver doing something rude or nasty to some other driver like tailgating or cutting people off etc. Whenever I see one of those fish drivers I get ready for some bad behavior.

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Robert Jorge says on May 8, 2007, 17:20:

I have had the same experience UTC, I mean elrey, with the fish on the car = bad driver. Another thing to watch out for are the cars that have the P.Rican flag thingy hanging from the rear view mirror. At least in Florida, that is another way of saying "DANGER!, unpredictable driver, potential road-rager on board." Before I get reamed, not ALL cars with the PR flag thingy have bad drivers, but a disproportional amount seem to.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 8, 2007, 19:32:

I don't agree Kalder
Business relationships are base on trust in most parts of the world. A man who is unfaithful - or a woman for that matter - can betray the person to whom they are closest too and that is why I have problems with any thought of doing business with a man (or woman) who openly cheats on their spouse. I've noticed a strong correlation between dishonesty in business and dishonesty in marriage.

As for Puerto-Rican flags Robert, since you asked on my thread - what have bumper stickers got to do with Colombia? Exactly?

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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goin_south says on May 8, 2007, 22:22:

Oh, now....get real. Come to Louisiana....and if you see a fish on the truck in front of you, it probably has nothing to do with being born twice...lol, well... maybe that cat could be on his 6th or 7th life by then...jeje

Why Colombianitas? Personally... I just don't like pink areolar tissue.

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goin_south says on May 8, 2007, 22:54:

As for the title of the thread.... to stay on course.... I have decided not to marry a colombian man.
So, no more to say here.

Why Colombianitas? Personally... I just don't like pink areolar tissue.

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elreydelostrolls says on May 9, 2007, 06:05:

CaritadeAngel, if we're unfaithful we blame it on la brujeria. It's the ultimate "Get Out Of Jail Free" card. So many brujas out there....

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CaritadeAngel says on May 9, 2007, 07:04:

Rey, you just proved my point about cowardice
Love is an act of free will.

"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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frankdeboca says on May 9, 2007, 07:41:

CaritadeAngel ... I was reading this thread today and saw all of your comments. Don't you think that entering ANY relationship, in particularly a legally binding one, that it is best to always consider and plan for all outcoming possibilities? If I was to follow your proclamations to their logical conclusion I would find the formula "A+B=C" without exception (which never works). An example... If God is love, and love is blind... then Ray Charles must be God. HAHAHAHAHAHAH

In the end we are all humans with frailties and imperfections, and to be honest looking for a perfect man or a man with the traits you espouse only means that there will have to be, by human nature, other things missing or lacking to balance the person you speak of. Choosing a man or woman that will put you on a pedestal above all else in this world (if that is what you truly want) will create more problems than solve. A healthy relationship will involve compromises and growth by both people. I think they used to call this concept "maturity"

As the saying goes; beware what you ask for... you just might get it. I really don't understand the entire "cowardice" stuff your spitting out, but if thats your opinion - cool. As for me, I prefer to think the cowards would be more likely to be the people entering a marriage with closed eyes and unwilling to admit the realties of human nature to themselves - and coping with them or conquering them. But hey, just my opinion ...


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~The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering...

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kalder says on May 9, 2007, 07:51:

This may sound crass and philistine, but to me it's just candour:

If a married guy gets drunk and ends up in the whorehouse, so what? What's the big deal?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Wastelandlive says on May 10, 2007, 10:03:

I think it's a kind of child psychology. "I really don't understand the entire "cowardice" stuff your spitting out, but if thats your opinion - cool."

It means that if you do what I don't want you to do, than you are scum!

A common manipulation.

Another example: if you move beyond the prepagado crowd and deal with some decent Colombianas, you'll find that there is a kind of backlash against foreign boyfriends. The message is, "If you are with a foreigner, you are a whore, and will be ostracized from your community."

Same kind of nonsense. How else are they going to compete?

It's about as effective as this "Be a REAL man, and be faithful to me" prattle.

Wasteland

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CaritadeAngel says on May 10, 2007, 11:38:

I'm sorry...but My observations are based on very very wide experience in many different cultures. Men who have not the guts, patience and tenacity to give their all to just one woman are just not real men in my book. I know men who cheat and are not "scum", and I never said they were: they are flawed, as are we all, but flawed in a way which makes me truelly think less of them as MEN, not as human beings.

Firstly, Kalder, getting drunk does not absolve you of responsibility. Some guys get drunk, and spend all of their drunken hours telling everyone, including the barman, how much they love their wives. They then get their drunk arses into a taxi and go home. Getting drunk does not absolve you of responsbility if you sexually abuse your kids while drunk. So if you go to the whorehouse when your drunk, you still choose to do that. Geddit?

Secondly, I've noticed in all the men I know who cheat - or tried to get me to be the party with whom they cheat (believe me, I've heard it ALL - have a common, fundemental insecurity. They are frightened they will somehow "loose the magic power" if they stay faithful, which is a f*ked up concept of masculinity, or else are frightened that by loving one woman they will somehow allow her too much control. In other words, they are chicken. Love is risk, its courage, its hard work, and requires strength of character, will and purpose that every man wished he had. Those are the positive aspects of masculinity that I adore. Faithful men are better lovers. Period.

Men cheat, women cheat, but they cheat for different reasons: no happy, sexually-and-emotionally-fulfiled, loved woman cheats. Women cheat in the first instance out of neglect. Men cheat out of fear and pride.

Lastly, Frank,as to my silly romantic illusions. I understand, perhaps more than anyone, about human frailties. Women have them too - in some ways sexual desire for us is stronger and more powerful than for men.

But cheating - along with other forms of abuse will always lead to pain for yourself and for your partner. I am not looking for "perfect man". Am I a perfect woman to demand such a thing? But I am, among other things, looking for faithful one, and I believe that, in marriage I hve the right to expect that of him, - and quid pro quo - as he has the right to expect it of me. That's what marriage is all about. It is not, WasteandLive, a manipulation: which implies a perversion of justice. Love is ORIGINAL justice.

Personally, I always lay it on the line, and (hopefully) treat my love as I would want to be treated. I have, as a woman, way more opportunity to cheat than him anyway. You wanna play the field? Fine. But don't get married and increase the suffering in the world. Men who cheat on their wives would do well to examine their true motivations.

"Be a real man and be faithful to me", hey it works, it leads to happiness and fulfilment and good times. Trust me. You should try it sometime. I dont know a single man who cheats who's happy, except one alone,and he has a personality disorder which means that while he is as happy as a sunbeam, everyone else around him is feckin' miserable.

Its up to you. Nothing ol' Carita says is gonna change your mind.




"Five things bring us closer to the unseen: the act of love, the birth of a baby, being in the pressence of death or disaster, the contemplation of great art, and the human voice lifted in song".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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kalder says on May 11, 2007, 00:56:

Actually... I'm not particularly scandalised by the idea of stone-cold sober married men swinging by the whorehouse either ;)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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elreydelostrolls says on May 11, 2007, 05:57:

"Men cheat out of fear and pride."

Men cheat because we are dogs, animals which are genetically predisposed to spread our seed far and wide. Every man wants to screw as many chicks as he possibly can. Wilt Chamberlain is our idol.

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mecca says on May 11, 2007, 06:44:

elrey, i agree with everything in your above post EXCEPT Wilt Chamberlain. More like Hugh Hefner for most americans i'd guess.

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CaritadeAngel says on May 11, 2007, 10:17:

Oh you poor fools Who think your sexual desire is somehow "more" than a woman's...

A man who is daft enough to think this will look big and strong some day with those antlers sprouting from his head. WAKE UP.

You CANNOT deal with the full force of a woman's sexual desire. Very very few men on this planet can. And women cheat all the time. Its just they they dont talk about it. Dogs? Yeah right. You're rolling over and going to sleep by the time WE'VE just got started. You cheat cos your scared, and need to feel like big strong men. You cheat out fear, not out of desire.

We women. Now WE cheat out of desire. Hell yes, and for the most part, you never even know about it.

Kalder, now I know you're joking, but I have a major problem with anyone perpetunating human trafficking, child sex abuse, and sexual slavary, in whatever form it takes. Trust me, your sex dollars go to fund just those very things.

Cheers

Carita

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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andrew24 says on May 11, 2007, 11:26:

Meh, I don't have quite the pent up anger caritade does from whatever happened to her, but I pretty much agree: there's no excuse, not ever. You either care enough about the person to not cheat on them, or you don't care that much AND YOU SHOULD BREAK UP WITH THEM, it's one or the other, it really is quite black and white. There's no excuse, not ever, not booze or anything else if it was consensual.


Barring that natural expression of villainy which we all have, the man looked honest enough.

Mark Twain

Barring that natural expression of villainy which we all have, the man looked honest enough. Mark Twain

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