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Marriage while waiting on K-1 visa (I-129F already approved) . . .

Need sound advice . . . my fiancee understands that we're to be married in the US, however she wants to have a religious wedding (in Colombia) before leaving (for her family) . . . how would we go about having a "non-legal" wedding without jeopardizing the K-1 process?

By rona on May 26, 2005, 12:11 in Visa & paperwork. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


stanmoonie says on May 26, 2005, 13:14:

Well ... Well you could do it several ways.... one wait until you have the interview date then schedule your wedding for a couple of days after the interview. You will have not broken any rules that way and you will give the woman what she wants...
Or you can get married before and hope the embassy don't catch it.

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krisk says on May 26, 2005, 15:46:

i could be wrong and often i am but isnt the church wedding just for show anyway. i believe you still have to do the paperwork through a court house.

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utopiacowboy says on May 26, 2005, 16:39:

You are treading on very treacherous ground with this action. If the embassy personnel at the interview or the CBP when she enters with the K-1 get any inkling whatsoever that a "marriage" has taken place, you could be in for some rough sledding. Be sure not to register the "marriage" with any civil authorities in Colombia.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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stanmoonie says on May 26, 2005, 17:23:

Yes but... That is why plan to marry after you get approved you remove all chance of having a problem and you actually were single during the interview...

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Sonny says on May 26, 2005, 17:35:

utopiacowboy UC, hope all is going well in San Antonio. I have a question for you
All is going very well with our K-1 visa, yesterday my fiance received the first packet from the Embassy in Bogota. She is asking me for additional information that was already sent with the application such as Divorce papers, additional letters of communication, copies of airline tickets for the trips to Colombia. Is this all necessary or is this woman that has stolen my heart just being careful and trying to cover all bases? What do you think? Is it necessary to send to her again?

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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sandramoreno80 says on May 26, 2005, 18:09:

You can try if your gfriend's family is on good terms with a priest to conduct a type of little "blessing" on your future marriage and also a good luck thing as she will be leaving for another country. It would really just depend on the buona fe of the priest.

I am just clutching at straws here, because any marriage conducted by the church goes through the official channels and goes over to the notaries. I mean by doing that why don't you just do the papers for a spousal visa?

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utopiacowboy says on May 26, 2005, 18:31:

Yes, send it again. She is probably reading the instructions and the instructions say she needs to bring all this stuff with her. Even though the USCIS and the NVC have probably sent everything to the embassy, don't count on it. Chances are she won't need it but she'll feel better having it and it is a very stressful situation to go through.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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zsandon says on May 28, 2005, 12:02:

Party Time It has been my experience that one does NOT need a civil marriage certificate to have a religious ceremony performed, but rather the opposite. You customarily get a religious marriage and then a civil marriage certificate, a rather forgettable experience. Sort of like the Dept of Motor Vehicles, without the charm. Go ahead and get married in a church, it seems to carry no legal significance there. Unlike a civil officer, priests or other religious personalities do not act in any civil capacity. That's reserved for the "notarios". Maybe we should emulate their example. Get married with all the trimmings you may both like and have a great party. No legal repercussions anywhere. Congratulations and enjoy.

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utopiacowboy says on May 28, 2005, 15:39:

Are you Colombian, Zsandon? Or are you just talking off the top of your head? Many Colombians get married in a church wedding and the marriage is recorded in the notaria's office. So, yes they can act in a civil capacity. This is the danger in relying on advice from a dumb web site.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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silviat says on May 30, 2005, 22:31:

a priest blessing is the best idea My fiance and I had the same situation because I really wanted to have a wedding in colombia so I could share such a special moment with my friends and those members of my family who wont be able to travel.

The thing is that it may not worth the risk... The embassy may never find out... but they may do it... and the stress and the uncertainty are going to be stressful to deal with... it doesnt worth it.

Try to explain that to her, my fiance and I had a talk about it and we got to that conclusion... nothing worths the risk...

What we are doing is to have an small simbolic meeting with my friends and family where we will celebrate the uncoming wedding and cheer together. (maybe she can add to that a blessing from her family spiritual advisor or something like that, I am sure if you guys explain the situation to a priest he will understand)

Being in the same situation I know it isnt the same, I understand her how she feels about it... but at least for me, it is more important not to risk this process (and maybe cause a delay in finally being with my fiance) than anything else...

good luck

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zsandon says on Feb 12, 2007, 18:52:

There are no dumb websites, only dumb... It's irrelevant whether I'm Colombian or not. What, in your opinion, is the reason for "recording" the marriage in a notary's office after the completion of religious "ceremonies"? Who acts "in a civil capacity"?, you are not writing clearly. I am talking from experience. Religious ceremonies, there as in many other countries, are valueless legally. One may theoretically leave church, make a left turn and be answerable only in heaven. He / she is not legally married until the "recording" process you refer to is accomplished.

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Gator says on Feb 13, 2007, 06:20:

You Must... be sure and have the church(in my case Catholic) wedding RECORDED by a notary having jurisdiction in the area where the ceremony was performed. Example: You can't get married in Cali and have the wedding recorded in say Cartagena. All this process does is legitimize the wedding in Colombia and is necessary is the Colombian national wishes to change names on passports, cedulas, drivers license, etc., etc. The wedding will be valid in the United States as well as other countries without taking this step. Make SURE you ask to REGISTER the wedding at the notary NOT just have the marriage certificate notarized.

You will not be given another "civil marriage certificate" by the notary. The registration information, which will be on the church certificate, is all that is needed.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

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