marriage in Colombia question

Lorenzo de Australia says on Jul 7, 2004, 09:20:

Re: Marriage in Colombia Is that true? it is illegal to marry in colombia to a colombian, whilst me only having a tourist visa?
I am also only asking... as it maybe a possibility in the future!

let me know too!

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Constanza says on Jul 7, 2004, 12:52:

Buscando Libertad Hello, I'm a caleña living in florida for 4 years, this four years i been going back to colombia and back to here, in 2 times i had saved money to start a bussines and stay in my beautiful country but i failed, i'm a graphic desiner and recently i finally found a job doing what i love design but i'm still want to come back to colombia but now my visa has expired and i'm trap here, because if i come back i have to stay there and if things go wrong again i can't come back here so my only hope is find an american willing to marry me so i get my documents.I can pay for it.
So if somebody is interested in this please replay. I'm a really good person i know what i just say songs bad, but there is no other way for me.

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pointofview says on Jul 7, 2004, 13:52:

SOUNDS BAD AND IS BAD Dear Constanza:

First of all you have no current legal status to marry and stay in the USA. Yes, you can marry in the USA but the marriage would not allow you to file a change of status since you have no legal status (you overstayed your USA tourist visa).

What you propose is completely illegal sham marriage for money and you give the thousands of Colombian and USA citizens working through the process legally a bad name. You will probably get one reply to your post and that from the INS as they would like to be part of your program.

Your best shot is to cross into Mexico then travel back to Colombia later applying to renew or for another new USA tourist visa at the USA embassy in Bogota hoping they don't pick up the overstay on your USA tourist visa. If you have been using your tourist visa for extended stays (as a resident) in the USA they will probably turn you down.

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preisty says on Jul 7, 2004, 14:57:

That's bad too Dear Pointofview,

Your advise to her is break the law also.
I believe you must had been waiting forever for your documents uh?.

You don't know the situation of other people so who are you to judge?, do you know that thousand of people do that and it's because they give them not choice, she just want to be "legal" under the eyes of that country, who make those laws?, men right, she is not killing anybody, she's not stilling anythig. How could you give her such advise if you are judging her for try to find somebody to marry?

My advice to her will be: sweety, don't be stupid in try to find what you looking for in this media, you can get in troubles, you better don't answer any of the post you'll see here.

Good luck and god be with you

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2004, 15:23:

In answer to the original questions, it depends on the notaria. The law says that the TS visa is necessary but not all notarias enforce this. It is best to have your novio/novia check with the notaria in advance as to what is required. We were going to get married in Monteria where the notaria is a friend of the family and he was not going to require very much in the way of documentation but then we ended up getting married in Medellin with a real stickler.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Dan says on Jul 7, 2004, 18:29:

Utopia Thanks for your comment. I talked to someone from work and was told that people get married when down there for work all the time. I told my girlfriend by email, so hopefully she will be able to find something out.
another question: Other than what the websites say by needing the birth certificate and the singleness cirtificate, is there really anything else required for the process (such as my passport) for a Civil marriage? Is the Notary the only person seen as far as getting the Civil marriage done, or is there others that mi novia and I must see during the process? I just want to make sure that I don't miss anything.
Thanks, Daniel

God Bless America!

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 8, 2004, 10:05:

The notaria is the one who is responsible for performing the civil marriage so it is their decision what they will require. The law says certain documents are necessary but some notarias are more lax than others. I had to send her a copy of my passport with the marriage visa a week before the ceremony but again, this was only because the notaria wanted to see a copy in advance.

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ColombianGringo says on Jul 19, 2004, 12:39:

Constanza Send me an E-Mail to kd7hsm at yahoo.com
I have some advice/help for you
Patrick

Feel free to write me with questions to kd7hsm@yahoo.com

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ColombianGringo says on Jul 19, 2004, 13:18:

Illegal Talk about illegal, what do you think about President Bush saying to all the Mexican illegals...as long as you were working I will make you a citizen, Don't matter you're here illegally...so long as you are working...What a sham and disgrace that is so don't be hassling anyone about being here illegally or marrying illegally...There are ways around everything just ask me...LOL..

Feel free to write me with questions to kd7hsm@yahoo.com

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Dan says on Jul 19, 2004, 14:06:

Colombiangringo looking at your email address...just wanted to say its kind of interesting to see another ham on here... de w4abn
Daniel

God Bless America!

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Dan says on Aug 3, 2004, 18:41:

Documents After a month, I'm still waiting for a new copy of my Birth Certificate. If only I could use the copy I have with me right now from 2002 I would be very happy right now, because all the translations and legalizing would be done...

Hopefully, it doesn't take too much longer, time is running short.

God Bless America!

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Dan says on Aug 4, 2004, 15:23:

Another Question Certificado de Solteria...
First of all, does the original have to be Notarized?????
Second of all: Family that would write the letters live in VA. Can they be notarized in VA then can I have the translation done and notarized in NC and apostilled from NC?? My parent live quite a ways away from me and I can get the notarized translation part done at work. I'm just wondering if having things legalized from different states will cause much of a problem once I'm in Colombia.
Just trying to make sure I don't miss anything.
Thanks a lot-Daniel

God Bless America!

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 4, 2004, 15:36:

Yes, the original has to be notarized and apostiled. The easiest thing, which is what I did, is to have the Certificado written in Spanish. My daughters signed it before a notary and then I had an apostile for the notary. This way I did not need a separate translation with its own notarization and apostile. Your novia should be able to give you the proper wording in Spanish.

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Dan says on Aug 4, 2004, 15:58:

Utopia ok... I could probably go the the ladies at work that teach spanish to get the wording done. They also translate birth certificates and notarize them for people who are marrying in Colombia. If I can get those letters from my parents and do everything for VA I could probably get the birth certificate done in my state... The biggest problem I have is the timing... I leave on the 15th whether I have them or not because I'm traveling for work. If I can't get everything done by then, then I have to start all over when I get back from my trip, and that will just take even more time and money. I am more worried about the paperwork than anything else.

Yet again, another question... I know I've seen that the birth certificates are required within three months prior to the wedding are the certificados de solteria fall under the same time requirement?

Thanks a lot for the help-Daniel

God Bless America!

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 4, 2004, 16:03:

They always want fresh documents, that is documents within the last 90 days. This was a huge pain in the culo for me too. We postponed our wedding and my birth certificate was too old by two days so I had to get another one along with another apostile etc. I ended up with my own FedEx account I was doing so much fedexing.

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Dan says on Aug 4, 2004, 16:26:

Figures... My timing isn't too great right now. I was going to tell you that my girlfriend didn't realize until after I told her that the Certificado de Solteria was just a couple of letters from family members to say that I wasn't married. I'm just going nuts right now hoping all works out in the end. The main purpose of getting it (the marriage) done as soon as possible is because she is about 2.5 months into a pregnancy right now and I want to get married before the birth. I just think it would be better afterwards in getting the baby american citizenship by applying at the embassy for a child born abroad birth certificate. I have one from being born in Germany, that is why I'm waiting for my copy from Washington DC.

God Bless America!

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 4, 2004, 16:32:

They don't even have to be separate letters. It can be just one statement that both of them sign in front of a notary. Here is what the US embassy says about the Certificado de soltería: "The U.S. citizen must present a notarized, written statement, executed by a family member or close friend who has known him/her for more than ten years, stating that he/she has never been married. If issued in a language other than Spanish, this statement must be translated into Spanish by an official translator and must have an Apostille."

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wofiii says on Aug 4, 2004, 22:02:

If your Goal is to get to the US faster then DO NOT MARRY If your final goal is to get to the United States and you want that to be done as fast as possible then you do not want to marry in Colombia, because that can take you many more months to receive the K3 visa for marriage as opposed to the Fiancée visa K1. It also depends on what USCIS service center you use. For instance if you live were you use the Vermont service center, the K1 is the only way to go. They are currently processing K3 visas with receipt dates in February 2004.

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SingleTraveler says on Aug 5, 2004, 00:23:

Two Brothers and a Bride

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Dan says on Aug 5, 2004, 04:23:

wofiii I am aware about the processing of the visa applications. I'm just trying to get the marriage part done first. Right now, that is more important than anything else. but thanks for the reply.

God Bless America!

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wofiii says on Aug 5, 2004, 04:56:

Ok, if marriage is your priority then visit this site http://www.usaimmigrationattorney.com/GettingMarriedinColombiaWhatDoIDo.html


or this website

http://www.usaimmigrationattorney.com/colombiamarriage.html

They have about everything covered I think.

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