marriage in Cali

calipro says on Jun 27, 2008, 20:23:

Call this lawyer in Cali.

Deyanira Llanos Munoz
665-0881 o 310-831-5682

Just have your boyfriend bring his passport and birth certificate and you the same.

She'll take care of everything, including the civil ceremony and the notory.

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azulvioleta says on Jun 27, 2008, 20:57:

Thanks Calipro and Poorbuthappy for the information. Calipro is expensive if you do this things through a lawyer? do you know that?, I will call her if that is sure...

Azulvioleta

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calipro says on Jun 27, 2008, 22:22:

azulvioleta

That depends on what you think expensive is.....I'm not sure what she charges but I think 800K might cover everything and it's fast service. You can be married in a day or two.

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Philly says on Jun 28, 2008, 07:04:

You need to have all of your papers from your country aposstle(spelled something like that) Birth Certificate, BC can be no longer then 90 days issued, and if any previous marriages, those divorced papers also need to be aposstled. Then, you need all those papers translated in Spanish. We had our papers sent to Bogota, this is the part you would have to research, my wife handled this part. This is the only part that really cost any amount of money, and for real it was kind of cheap. The process is quite painless. I am now happily married in Colombia.

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juicerbud says on Jun 28, 2008, 07:47:

I was married in Cali to a Colombian last January. PM me if you have any questions. The most important advice I got from PBH was to talk to the notary first and find out exactly what you need from them bc it can change from notary to notary. We used notory 19 and they were great! All I needed to bring from the US was my birth certificate with the Apostille seal issued within 90 days (translated), a certificate of single hood (translated, search here for the format) and my passport. The day you get married, have someone bring wet naps or baby wipes to get the ink off you finger so you don't ruin your dress.
I would seek out the notary before you give money to a lawyer, I don't think you will need one.

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juicerbud says on Jun 28, 2008, 07:52:

You can get translations online if you cannot find a translator near you. Just do a google search, you can fax or email the the document and they will send you a certified translation. It is a racket, all it is is a person that can speak english and spanish typing up the translation and someone else notarizing their signature.
As far as the seal, in the states, you have to go to the state capital, I am not sure about Canada. I think your local municipality can steer you in the right direction.
Good luck!

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gimmedub says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:00:

goto san andres - save yourself the hassle of all that BS paperwork and get a vacation/honeymoon out of it!!!

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Philly says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:45:

oh, i forgot the part about about having a family member or a close friend writing a letter stating you are not married, which needs to get aposstled. Juicerbud gave you good advice. It dies change from notary to notary. I was married by a judge, they had no idea what they were talking about. I told them the papers that i needed to have. I also think you do not need a lawyer. The San Andres is also good

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azulvioleta says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:23:

Thanks everybody, but I am a little confused now. I want to the notory 14 and they give me a paper with the information and it says that we need the translation of the paper for an official translator, and if my boyfriend doesn't speak in spanish we need an official translator during the ceremony, that is true? and the woman there told me that she thinks that Canada doesn't have treaty with the Haya so that means his papers need to be authenticated in a Colombian Consulate and then bring the papers to the ministerio de relaciones exteriores in Bogota. Someone knows about that? that is what you mean Philly about that your wife went to Bogota? If you marry in San Andres is it valid too?

He is going to the Colombian Consulate in Toronto to find out everything about this, I hope that he could find the same information.

thanks again for your advice we are totally new in all this...

have a wonderful weekend

Azulvioleta

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Philly says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:44:

No. my wife had the papers sent to an official translator in Bogota. The part about needing an official translator during the ceremony sounds like bunk. If I could have, I would have done the San Andres thing. We did not go that way because I had been living in Colombia for over a year and saving money is near to impossible.

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guacharaca says on Jun 28, 2008, 13:26:

If he lives in Toronto or west of Toronto, he goes to the Consulate in Toronto. He needs to have someone translate his documents (does not have to be an official translator) and that someone swears in front of a notory in Canada that it is a true translation. Then those documents go to the Colombian consulate in Toronto and gets their stamp. The consulate then tells him to which office in Bogota that he has to give those documents to in order to get another stamp. If you do not have a relative in Bogota to bring your documents to that office and then forward them to you afterwards, I know someone. Then the documents go to your notory with your application for marriage. Your man will have to give you a notorised power of attourney (in Spanish) to submit the application on his behalf if he is not in Colombia.

Yes you need a translator during the ceremony but it can be any kid that speaks English as long as your notory believes the kid speaks English well enough.

If I were to do it over again, I would go to San Andreas. To hell with keeping the in-laws happy

Colombianos: Las armas os han dado independencia, las leyes os daran libertad. (Santander)

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gimmedub says on Jun 28, 2008, 14:45:

oh i remember my visit to the colombian embassy in canada - my head still swells thinking about the BS that puta told me lol - b/c i was born in trinidad I had to goto Venezuela to get my birth certificate authorized by the colombian consulate there (and this was the time that chavez had deported the colombian consulate)... yes you heard right - sir go outside, hail the next taxi, goto the airport, fly 3,000 miles to venezuela, hope to god that the embassy staff is still there, and then you should be fine... now she was actually incorrect - i could have got those docs apostilled in trinidad but that's another headache in itself - anyways be prepared for a fucking runaround that'll take you about 3 months and cost you about the same as it would for you to goto san andres and get it done at the notary there... we tried doing the paperwork route but after 4 months and about 800,000 pesos in BS calls/paperwork etc... I just said fuck it and flew to san andres.

if you're still wanting to do this in cali and he's born in canada tell him to get his letter of no-impediment from the province he's in... here's the link for ontario

http://www.gov.on.ca/ont/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_252/_s....

then head to the closest colombian consulate (toronto has one if he's there - ottawa has the embassy) with his birth cert, and that letter, they get copied and stamped, then you got 90 days to apostille in colombia and translate - this guy is pretty good for doing those things

http://www.apostillacolombia.es.tl/

have fun and good luck!

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azulvioleta says on Jun 28, 2008, 17:17:

Guys again thanks for the advices.
Philly where are you from? are you from canada or U.S? did your wife send the papers just for the translation?
Juicerbud where or how can I contact you, I think that would be or big help can speak with you, do you speak in spanish?
Gimmedub, I know that your idea is great but we are a little afraid, because I applied for my tourist visa and Canadian embassy refused it, they said that they don't think that I will return to my country after my vacation time there, so we want that they can realise that this if real, that we love each other and is not just a paper thing... so we aren't sure if a marriage in San Andres could be a goood option, maybe we are wrong, but we think that is a good idea have pictures with my family and some friends in our marriage... maybe we are really afraid about that....

Guys thanks for your help and if I need something more I will ask you again, I am going on tuesday to the Notory 21 and find out there....

thanks

Azulvioleta

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Philly says on Jun 29, 2008, 07:43:

I am from the United States, my wife sent the papers to Bogota to get translated by an official translator. San Andres, not sure why you are scared? How can they deny you a visa if you are legally married? A fiance visa and a visa for a wife is a totally different ball game.

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azulvioleta says on Jun 29, 2008, 23:33:

Well Philly, maybe we are so scare because when my boyfriend to ask for the tim that will take have me there after our marriage they told them that it could take until a year or more and our application cou be refused in if they don't believe that our marriage is real... well maybe they say that just to scared the people who want marry for papers or could be true... but we decided get marry here in Cali andin that way know better my family... Thanks for your help...

Azulvioleta

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Philly says on Jun 30, 2008, 04:06:

Okay, but it sounds like they can deny you if you get married in Cali also? I believe you have all the info you need now from this site, do what you think is best. Remember, it can be done. I am here living it.

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GregYohn says on Jun 30, 2008, 07:43:

Hola!

You can get married in Cali or in San Andres!

Cali has alot more paper work hassles. Imagine if one thing is done wrong and you are planning to get married. Remember, you need to wait 10 days after applying for the marriage license before getting married! Maybe that is a deal breaker, unless you get a power of attorney given from your future spouse to handle the paperwork before you get there?

San Andres costs more, but can be much more painless and its seen as romantic also. One notary in San Andres and the law makes it so simple. Having a sunny beach is good too! I looked at visiting the Pacific Coast for a honeymoon, but still get told about it not being safe for a gringo from my fiance.

Best to say the woman should be happy, but you'll have to handle all the headaches! You can visit a couple of notarios and get different prices by over 100.000 pesos!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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guacharaca says on Jun 30, 2008, 11:30:

Get married in San Andreas. Take lots of photos and have them published in the newspaper in Cali. Then attach the newpaper clippings to you immigration application. It will be very convincing that your marriage is real to Immigration Canada.

However, if you marry in San Andreas, make sure that all paperwork is in order for Immigration Canada. The difference between marrying in Cali and San Andreas is that the Notory in Cali makes sure that the marriage is legal....that is, he makes sure that your husband is actually single or divorced on paper before the marriage takes place. If you marry in San Andreas, the notory trusts you, as a couple, to make sure that he is legally able to marry. Immigration Canada checks up on the legality of the marriage in any situation.

By the way, you would not have a prayer of getting a tourist visa from the Canadian Embassy so do not take it personally.

Colombianos: Las armas os han dado independencia, las leyes os daran libertad. (Santander)

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azulvioleta says on Jun 30, 2008, 19:43:

Guys you are so nice, thanks for the advices and yes I will talk about this with him and we will make a decision then; and yes Philly I think that I have all the info here, any way I will go to some notaria tomorrow and see what is the best for us...
thanks!

Azulvioleta

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GregYohn says on Jul 1, 2008, 09:39:

Hola!

Go to a couple of Notarios! The one you find close by may be more costly than your 2nd one.

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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billyb says on Jul 1, 2008, 09:48:

Yes, but when you factor in all the time, taxi fares and parking spent going to different ones, would the couple of thousand pesos you might save have been worth it?

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GregYohn says on Jul 5, 2008, 07:37:

Hola!

I was just told by my GF in Cali that after giving all the paperwork, the license is good for 6 months to get married!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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tompower says on Jul 10, 2008, 13:35:

Azulvioleta, it took exactly 8 months from start to finish for the permanent resident visa for my wife. the way it works is after you marry in colombia he submits the application to canada immigration there's various things you need to do like a medical exam, police clearance and certify/ translate your documents. After 40 days or so they reply to him saying hes good to sponsor you and then they send the application to the canadian embassy in bogota, there they review all the documents and around the 8 month mark they'll contact you to send them your passport to stamp it and give you your visa. Once you land in canda your a permanent resident free to travel back to colombia when ever you want, recieve health care, study at ESL classes and work. That's definitely worth the wait because coming as a visitor isn't a permanent solution for being together.
Good luck,
Remember, we're all in this together.
Tom Power

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