Loving Medellin? Why?

PaisaAmericano says on Jan 31, 2007, 19:45:

You go Mami! I am also from Antioqueño parents and all my life have traveled here for the summer vacations. I was lucky to go to school here as a 10 year old and learn all the manerisms, dialect, culture, soccer well everything. I am now 30 and have moved to this beautiful paradise, I have found that the opportunities for a ColomboAmericano are endless! If you know perfect Colombian Spanish and perfect English you are set here and will live a very prosperous life.

Cindster says on Jan 31, 2007, 20:23:

Hmm wondering? Oh really? what type of opportunities? I want to get a degree here in something that i can use in medellin but i don't know what gives good money over there? any ideas?

ciaoo ; cindy

La Colombianita ; Cindy

utopiacowboy says on Jan 31, 2007, 22:44:

Medellin? I like it.
Medellin? I like it.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

thur says on Feb 1, 2007, 01:43:

Medellín... It's funny you said "everything is so far" (in Bogotá), because... it is. The city expansion is huge. It will take you about an hour to go anywhere (in TM). Everything in Medellín _is_ near and all paisas I talked to said "Medellín is a village" :-)
Greetings,

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goin_south says on Feb 1, 2007, 05:43:

If it is {a religion}.... I think I might like to join... :) Southernman151...are you still there? Don't forget to max that camera out with some pics of CELL PHONE HOLDERS today!

dos pesos mio,... pequito de nada

and, thank you.

southern151 says on Feb 1, 2007, 05:47:

Don... Religion was not much of my thing until I came here. Then, I found "The New Medillin Order!" LOL This place damn sure threw a hook in me. I'm at the airport now and sad that I am having to leave. Can't wait for the next trip!

PaisaAmericano says on Feb 1, 2007, 07:45:

Hey Cindster I dont know what career plans you have, but positions as an English Instructor are endless here and pays very well. You can private tutor, work at a University, The Columbus School, Colombo-Americano etc. I am currently in Real Estate and cater to the American or English Community or those who are planning on investing here. My background is in Travel, Hospitality and Tourism and that is huge here as well, especially now that Colombia is safer and all these gringos have found out what a great place this is and how beautiful it is. There are American Companies here that also hire Americans for their International divisions. So Cindster, if you do a little research youll find many opportunities.

goin_south says on Feb 2, 2007, 00:03:

Quiero un trabajando, que estas solo por mujeres quien quiere aprender la ingles.
Miguel...tu quiere estar mi ayudante?
No Quiero. Disculpa.... ;(

Quiero que ellas aprende la spanglish.

dos pesos mio,... pequito de nada

and, thank you.

Man Tequila says on Feb 2, 2007, 01:07:

I've been to Medellin as a tourist, once, for a couple weeks. My opinions should be seen in that light.

The paisas seem to love compliments on the metro and the microclima. The metro is decent, and pretty handy given how spread out the city is. The weather is good; any weather is good compared to Canada (I didn't find Bogota cold). Other international cities have fine metros, and the weather is also nice in Cali and Cartagena. But somehow it is deeply encouraging to see so many people take such pride in these things.

Not all paisas are super friendly. Many of them are, though, and I liked their courtesy and sense of tradition. I liked the paisa women, too. Paisa women took great joy in correcting my many Spanish mistakes with gleeful pedantry and, for reasons which elude me, got endless pleasure from teaching me phrases that would probably get me killed if I actually tried to use them. When I bought something, such as a toy sitar at the craft fair at Parque Bolivar, the vendor spent a lot of time making sure I knew how to play the stupid thing... and was visibly pleased when I could knock out a bad version of "Cielito Lindo". Paisas seem to enjoy teaching.

Meeting people in Medellin was as easy as sitting down at a bar. Strangers would start telling you jokes and pour you shots from their bottle of booze. I got pretty darn drunk on several occasions and I suppose I could have easily been slipped something nasty or ran into problems. But the thing is, I didn't. I just had a great time. I met a lot of great people. As a taxi driver told me, "in Colombia, you make a friend every day".

Medellin has clearly changed for the better in recent years, with only 696 murders there in 2006. The people were enviably happy, sociable, a little self-satisfied and smug. They do have a lot to be proud of. But much work still to do. People seem to work pretty hard in Medellin.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

goin_south says on Feb 2, 2007, 01:15:

I think... Medellin is steadily building towards the future, and not bad, just as it is right now. In Five Years,... A World Class Destination!

dos pesos mio,... pequito de nada

and, thank you.

panthdave says on Feb 2, 2007, 05:01:

Correct Medellin is on the Right Track Medellin has nice and hard working people.. I have found very friendly people in the Village of Medellin as I call it. Might be overbuilding alittle in Poblado. Sorry to say this but like Medellin as it is now and don't want to become a huge city and become overcrowded with tourists. I can't stand that and thats why I have started to hate Miami which has changed in the last 15 years.

Medellin is on the Right Track by keeping security and driving out the drugs.. Yes you still have problems but the overall picture Medellin has done a great job just don't want to see a huge Tourist City in Medellin

panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

utopiacowboy says on Feb 2, 2007, 06:10:

It does seem absurd until you realize that it was over 3000 a year a few short years ago. Your AUC tax dollars at work.

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goin_south says on Feb 2, 2007, 11:16:

696 murders in 2006 In Medellin? alone?

dos pesos mio,... pequito de nada

and, thank you.

Cindster says on Feb 2, 2007, 12:02:

Bogota isn't cold AT ALL and i'm living in Miami where it never snows lol. Honestly i haven't met not TWO paisas that are unfriendly. I did meet one lol (family problems little cousin) and did enjoy correcting her in english LOL . im sorry its a inside joke anywho

most paisas are awesome & yes they love to correct & they dont seem annoyed or bothered by it.

La Colombianita ; Cindy

Colombiche says on Feb 2, 2007, 12:15:

I am now 30 and have moved I am now 30 and have moved to this beautiful paradise, I have found that the opportunities for a ColomboAmericano are endless! If you know perfect Colombian Spanish and perfect English you are set here and will live a very prosperous life.

Hi PaisaAmericano, I really wish you would share more about how you made that transition back to Colombia, it is something I am currently working on and I am interested in hearing the stories of those who have already done it.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

Simon says on Feb 3, 2007, 09:44:

Medellin is a great city with a lot of potential. You almost feel as if you were in a different country. It's natural setting is stunningly beautiful and the people are among the friendliest in all Colombia.

DonGringo,

Dude, you need to get your ass to Medellin as soon as possible, you might leave thinking twice about staying there permanently! There's no city like it!!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

goin_south says on Feb 3, 2007, 11:06:

I had a great time in Medellin; Was with a wonderful Calena de Pasto the whole time, and the Hotel we froliced in and retired to each night, "Park 10 Hotel", was fabulous!!

dos pesos mios,... es poquito de nada

and, thank you.

goin_south says on Feb 3, 2007, 11:07:

I had a great time in Medellin; Was with a wonderful 'Calena de Pasto' the whole time, and the Hotel we frolicKed in and retired to each night, "Park 10 Hotel", was fabulous!! The hustle and bustle of both, El Centro and El Metro, were great experiences.

dos pesos mios,... es poquito de nada

and, thank you.

paisa29 says on Feb 4, 2007, 14:23:

Loving Medellin? Why? Medellín tiene algunas cosas que la hacen una ciudad muy especial, es una combinación entre el clima, las montañas, paisajes, etc, pero lo mas importante es la gente... su calidez, pujanza, personas con una gran fortaleza que hemos aprendido a seguir adelante a pesar de todos los problemas, sufrimientos y dificultades que se presentan,
ser paisa es un orgullo, desde que eres pequeño tu familia te enseña a querer y cuidar la ciudad.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 4, 2007, 21:02:

Hola paisa29 Now try it in English. Very nice said!. TIENES TODA LA RAZON, MUY BIEN DICHO.
"DIME CON QUIEN ANDAS Y TE DIRE QUIEN ERES"

Man Tequila says on Feb 4, 2007, 23:19:

Only 696 murders There were more murders in Medellin than all of Canada. When I say that there were only two murders per day, this is because in the past there might have been ten murders per day. Kidnappings are down too.

Colombian newspapers report these things as decreases in percentage to minimize the fact that Medellin and Colombia can still be a pretty dangerous place, and praise the government which looks like it is doing a pretty competent job.

People in Medellin were generally very friendly. I
ran into the occasional jerk -- a crappy waiter at Al Rojo who tried to short change me diez mil pesos, a hotel manager who tried to overcharge me until I asked to talk to his boss, one snotty night club doorman (out of many that I met). This needs to be weighed against the hundreds of friendly paisas that I met. People in Medellin are far friendlier and helpful than the average Canadian. I like the paisas a lot. I thoroughly enjoyed learning their maledictas. They thoroughly enjoyed hearing me (mis)pronounce any long word that caught their eye. Can't say why. Meeting the same paisa twice often felt like running into a long time friend.

I really liked Medellin and the surrounding towns and mountains too. I'll be going back.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

goin_south says on Feb 4, 2007, 23:23:

There were more murders in Medellin than all of Canada.

Maybe that is because the population of Medellin is almost more than Canada... (kidding, Rubito!!! I know, it's not!)... and/but that also... it's too freakin COLD FOR CRIME most of the year in Canada.

Man Tequila. talk about comparing oranges to pears. damn!

It's okay. Your name gives it away. Tequila.

dos pesos mios,... es poquito de nada

and, thank you.

paisa29 says on Feb 5, 2007, 08:42:

Liza... la cosa es que necesito mas tiempo para hacer la traducción en ingles y no tengo mucho libre estos dias.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 5, 2007, 08:58:

Tranquilo Paisa Esta gente entiende. I want to say so much, but I rather go to the beach and walk, than spend too long siting writing. I usually do it from work or before I go to bed, instead of watching stupid T.V.
DIME CON QUIEN ANDAS Y TE DIRE QUIEN ERES.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 5, 2007, 10:27:

DG Look at my profile. AYYYY que miedo, Don Gringo me va a bofetear!, y darme muchas lecciones, or maybe he wants to be fresh with me!? LOL

gcarozzi says on Feb 5, 2007, 10:41:

don gringo
why don't you don gringo

why don't you visit Medellin and stop wasting your time writing stupid things. go see medellin and you will never leave the place.

gcarozzi says on Feb 5, 2007, 11:00:

now i know why they dumped you at the orphanage. i dont blame then to have some one like you. ja ja you are missing great stuff in your life go to medellin i will take you if you are to afraid

Lisa Zee says on Feb 5, 2007, 12:21:

Do you want to live in Medellin? I can help you buy the house of your dreams, or an apartment. Beautiful places and for every-one's budget. I bought my apt. in the best area of El Poblado. I could never afford one here in California or any state. Ask me how.

southern151 says on Feb 5, 2007, 15:27:

Lisa.... How? Thinking in the next couple of years that this may become my reality. Just bought my first home in the US and was a very proud moment but came back and considering selling. It was that great of an experience! I think that I could come here and work 4 to 5 months a year and live my life peacefully there for the rest of the year. I am never home here in the US anyway for my job keeps me traveling a lot.

I would like to spend at least a month there this summer to see for sure. I would like to have an apatment while I am there and would say that Poblado would be my prefered spot. Can you help with that too? Prefer furninshed.

Lostgringo says on Feb 5, 2007, 16:16:

Liza Zee I mailed you but never received and answer...




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Lisa Zee says on Feb 5, 2007, 19:07:

southern151 I am going to Medellin at the end of June. For now contact me at my e-mail. I have some ideas for you, if you are serious about buying a place, it is a great idea, Medellin has a lot of potential.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 5, 2007, 19:09:

Lost Gringo I always answer my mail. Write to me again please. Es usted una competencia? LOL.

utopiacowboy says on Feb 5, 2007, 21:21:

El Poblado, land of the prepagos and the gringos who love them.

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Skippy says on Feb 8, 2007, 08:28:

Want to be back in Medellin. I love Medellin. I really loved it. Right now I am working on a contract in Mexico. It's okay, but nothing compared to Medellin. Mexican people are friendly enough, but once in a while you meet some people who hate Gringos. It seems to be that way with the women here. Some women don't care if you are gringo. Others are Puro Mexicano. Definatly, I find the Paisas to be very well educated and motivated to work. Oh please. Let me get back there soon. I miss the rum of Colombia. Ron Viejo de Caldas Rocks!!!!!

Yeah you have to be careful with the ladies in Meellin, but that is in every city in the world I think.

Yup

love2colombia says on Feb 8, 2007, 15:57:

El Poblado is fantastic

jmbone says on Feb 8, 2007, 17:58:

My website: www.medellininfo.com is full of hundreds of examples, and more than a thousand photos, as to why I love this great City of Eternal Spring. In 06 I lived for more than four months in Medellin and met and worked with some wonderful people. This year I hope to spend even more time in the area.

The Portal is attracting thousands of unique visitors each month, and the numbers keep growing. As the current site is only in English, this is a good indicator of worldwide tourist, business investment and real estate interest in progressive Medellin and Antioquia.

There must be someone who loves this great city as much as I do, and who will translate the websites English into Spanish? I have been looking, but so far the prices that fellow lover´s of Medellin want to charge are just to high for a pensioner with a Not For Profit, no advertising, website........any takers?

Check it out at: www.medellininfo.com

regards,

Jim

manu1999 says on Feb 8, 2007, 20:31:

nice site I just checked it out and took a good look. Beautiful how you let us know how to pronouce it off the bat... "Med a Jean"... much better than "Med-EL-len"! Good work overall, pleasing and easily navigable.

One small recommendation... in the hostals section, don't recommend Casa Kiwi as first pick, that place is shite, recommend somewhere else.

manu1999 says on Feb 8, 2007, 20:34:

Oh oops Nevermind, it's arranged alphabetically. In that case you're missing out Black Sheep (IMO) a better hostal and Palm Tree which I've heard good things about...

Lisa Zee says on Feb 8, 2007, 20:55:

Very nice photos!!! Thank you. You can buy your home in El Poblado. Ask me how.

Man Tequila says on Feb 8, 2007, 21:44:

Quite a few of the women in Med-a-jean are players. The paisas really do have a killer business instinct.

El Poblado is very nice. I get the feeling lots of folks don't venture outside and see the rest of the city, though. This is a real shame -- some of the friendliest people and most interesting sites are elsewhere.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Lisa Zee says on Feb 8, 2007, 21:49:

If you are gonna do business You live in El Poblado, and spend most of your free days in: El Penol, Rionegro, San Pedro, San Jeronimo. All over the country!.

utopiacowboy says on Feb 8, 2007, 21:52:

You got that right, dude. Of course it probably explains why I never run into any gringos or English speakers while in Medellin. They're all holed up in Poblado with their prepagos. I'd rather live in Doce de Octubre than frigging El Poblado

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Lisa Zee says on Feb 8, 2007, 22:00:

LA UVAS ESTAN VERDES "LAS UVAS ESTAN VERDES"

paisa29 says on Feb 9, 2007, 05:30:

More pictures over here... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=240834

morphus says on Feb 10, 2007, 09:32:

Centro

panthdave says on Feb 10, 2007, 10:13:

Sorry I Like El Poblado...and not with a Prepago. I have a nice apartment in Castropol which is close to centro,Parque Llares. Well everything is close in Medellin not like Miami..

El Poblado is nice section to live.. Its just not land of prepagos and gringos..and who cares if so..Nice to see some fellow Americans.. Of course your going to get prepagos just like Miami Beach..

El Poblado though I hate the construction right now. Oviedo, El Tosoro, and Parque Llares are very nice.. Many Colombians go to Parque Llares to hang out for the evening and walk around..

Viva Medellin on there success after Pablo and the people..

Viva Poblado for having a nice section to live and go..

Very happy in Poblado with my girlfriend and friends.. Nothing wrong with Poblado...



panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

utopiacowboy says on Feb 10, 2007, 11:04:

Good to see that you are enjoying Poblado "cocoon" but it is far from the real Medellin. For many gringos (most? all?), Medellin consists of nothing more than Parque Lleras hobnobbing with people who think they are in Miami.

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morphus says on Feb 10, 2007, 11:18:

Sometimes the Poblado cocoon is nice. I was wandering around Barrio Boston one night and stumbled upon a crime scene. A taxi driver was shot and killed. I saw him slumped over the steering wheel. The taxi was crashed into a store and the polce had the area taped off. I thought to myself "ok, time to go back to Poblado" and took off. I hung out in Parque Poblado all night and watched the sun come up. I thought about the poor taxista that would'nt get to see another beautiful day in Medellin.

panthdave says on Feb 10, 2007, 12:02:

I have been Boston,Buenes Aires,San Javiar Barrios Actually I am in San Janviar many times with a friend and kind of like it that doesn't mean you don't put down El Poblado.. I just like when I go home its a nice place to be doesn't mean I stay locked in El Poblado.. And yes we meet in Parque Llares with my colombian friends because its a nice place to be at night.
Yes it is safer than other sections so whats wrong with being in safe section.. I am glad you can have safe sections in Medellin now. I eat in Centro and have friends in Prado Centro which has historical houses which the rich use to live years ago. I am not rich and live on paychecks every two weeks but very happy having a place in El Poblado...except like I said the contruction sucks right now by Oviedo..Was going to get an apartment in Boston (centro) but the apartments in the new buildings were too small and did not like the view from the balcony..

Peace Out




panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

Man Tequila says on Feb 10, 2007, 12:10:

I liked Parque Lleras and Poblado. I'm sure the cocoon is handy if in Medellin for longer periods. I'd probably do what morphus did if I saw a taxista muerta. And it's a great place to people watch and eat San Carbon steaks. My brief impressions -- It's a little expensive, a little over-rated, a little less friendly than other districts, and a pity if one goes to Medellin and does not venture downtown, ride the metro or visit other barrios. There's nothing wrong with El Poblado, but more to Medellin.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

gbeckler says on Feb 10, 2007, 12:38:

Real Estate in Medellin Hi Lisa,

I will be in Medellin in July and plan to check out real estate. Do you know what the avg price per square foot is for residential properties in Medellin? Do you have any info on the current property appreciation rate?

Thanks,
Gary

Gary

podborski says on Feb 10, 2007, 12:45:

Oh jeez guess I'll be the only one to disagree I spent a week in medellin, was totally UNimpressed. Everyone told me how great it was, beautiful city, best looking women, lots of nightlife, etc.

The city is not at all beautiful, IMHO. Every single building is red brick. It´s a hard city to walk around and explore as it's all uphill. The center was pretty dirty and the women walking around there were BIG, and I don´t just mean the siliconas. Thought I was back in Dallas.

Far better ´scenery´in Bogota.

Parque Lleras was quiet, small, not much going on. Bit like parque 93 in Bog but fewer spots to go, less live music (if any at all?)

Mangos was a total waste of time. Went to the famous chipechape (or whatever) mall, yup, borrring.

I was bored to death and changed my flight and got right back to Bogota.

I do know quite a few Paisas though, all great people, fun, intelligent, friendly, educated, hard working. None of them live in medellin. Hmmmm.

Maybe you (I) need to spend more time there and get to know some people and the right places to go? But I don´t know what I´d do every night in that town if I was on my own as I usually am.

utopiacowboy says on Feb 10, 2007, 13:16:

Chipechape? Wrong city, dude. Personally I agree with you that most of the places you went were boring. You'd need a corroncho guy like Elmo to show you the lively city. The only thing I find strange is that you didn't see any hot chicks. The Medellin chicks are way hotter than those in Bogota.

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Man Tequila says on Feb 10, 2007, 13:46:

I'd agree with you that the nightlife in Medellin is largely a Thursday to Saturday affair, and that Mangoes is much overrated.
I didn't see a lot of gorditas in Medellin. The city is difficult to walk around, and the fact major streets have two names is confusing to non-locals. But the taxis are cheap, the people friendly... it's not a bad place. I think Chipichape mall is in Cali. I often prefer mercados to malls, myself.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 15:35:

That is all buildings!!! I don't find nothing attractive and beautiful in that after being abroad, not to be nasty but there are much better and beautiful buildings here in the UK! show me a nice original, traditional casita paisa and I would be happy!!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 10, 2007, 15:53:

Mejor que un edificio

I would prefer to look at this paisita. Excuse the quality of the video.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 15:59:

sorry UC youtube didn't like your paisita it said video is not longer available...(SCARY))) stick to you monicaB blowup doll instead. ;)

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:02:

It's available. I just clicked on it again. It seems to come and go. Although you're right, nothing beats a "real doll" for availability.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:09:

lovely clip UC does it come with sound?
Mrs. UC is looking good.
Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

love2colombia says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:11:

:-S mmmmm, Casa Paisa

utopiacowboy says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:11:

Muchas gracias, Senora. It originally had sound but you could barely hear it. If you're good at lip reading Spanish you can make out some of what she is saying just from watching it.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:13:

I got it!! UC is that your wife! she looks sooooooooo young, UC cut the sound cuz she is saying in a few words "death to gringos"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:23:

"muerte a los gringos"? LOL
You're one funny girl, kat.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

Simon says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:59:

"That is all buildings!!! I don't find nothing attractive and beautiful in that after being abroad, not to be nasty but there are much better and beautiful buildings here in the UK! show me a nice original, traditional casita paisa and I would be happy!!"


It looks like someone's become a snob after living in 'el exterior' for too long.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

Simon says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:01:

And I think Podborski needs to get his eyes checked.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:03:

I am not becoming snob and if I am so what, but what is so attractive about those buildings? my farm in villavo is more attractive if may I said so....

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Simon says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:10:

Those buildings are awesome. Just because a building is made out of brick (a good, strong material) and are not made out of glass or steel, doesn't mean they are excluded from being considered "beautiful".

And the color red combines really nice with the green mountain backdrop.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

love2colombia says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:12:

Kat1 muéstrame tu casa en UK...


Tengo curiosidad...:-S

Simon says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:15:

She lives in Buckingham Palace, didn't you know?

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:16:

Love2 Colombia, I wish and i will try , I wish and i will try only that i don't want to be a show off , simon a building even if it's make out of brick it should have character, those building hasn't got that they are normal brick buildings in my opinion, Medellin have more beautiful stuff to show that those horrible red things. look at that paisa house is so much beautiful and original.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:25:

Now this is in Medellin and this is pretty, this are stuff we should be showing off,something different and with character

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Lisa Zee says on Feb 10, 2007, 17:59:

El Poblado El Poblado, used to have and still has big, huge BEAUTIFUL homes, with swimming pools, horses and tennis courts. There is 'EL CASTILLO also, a museum i believe, numerous fine restaurants and hotels. El Poblado is not just the buildings, they stand out because they are tall you people!!!!!. The trees on the avenues are hundreds of years old.
Has any one been at the 'EL CLUB CASMPESTRE' on avenida de el poblado? (I can see it from my bedroom window). Has anyone played golf, or had lunch, played cards, done any entertaining there????... Oh! I think I remember the fkgn cowboy meeting his wife there at El Club Campestre, wasn't it there? I think they met at a gala one night many years ago!!!! HA !!!
I admit that is getting over developed, and there are many buildings, but it is safer than any other area of the city. I personally prefer to live in EL CAMPO, but you have to do business from the city.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 10, 2007, 18:58:

gbeckler Re: Medellin R/S I have any info you need. Please contact me at my e-mail and I will answer all you questions.

goin_south says on Feb 10, 2007, 19:31:

Oh, How I Wish it Would Rain

Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

goin_south says on Feb 10, 2007, 19:33:

tiny pic,.....my a**. Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

podborski says on Feb 11, 2007, 06:49:

see that last photo I just don't consider that beautiful, IMHO.

Simon, I love brick, great building material, using tons of it in my own place, but like 95% of medellin is red brick, it's too much, needs some diversity. (Bogota is not much better in this regard. Some great buildings individually, but they are all so very similar.)

Obviously brick is a cheap locally sourced material.

I can't recall the name of the mall, it was high up, and had a small disneyworld type park in the center. Malls aren't my thing. I have'nt been to cali.

Maybe my expectations were too high as people all raved about the place to me before I went? It just didn't have anything cultural to see, except for the excellent Botero museum. I didn't used to like Botero, but after seeing the real thing, I'm a fan. The sculptures are really incredible.

I would love to see the area around Medellin though, next trip I hope to see Armenia, Manizales or Pereira, maybe all 3.

If any nice paisa wants to offer to show me around medellin, I'm willing to give it another try!

goin_south says on Feb 11, 2007, 11:07:

I-pod,....that is not red brick; IT'S CINNAMON! lol I have to agree with you, the first thing that hits one's senses upon seeing photos of Medellin from the air, is 'where did they get all that red brick'? Imported Georgia soil?

Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 13, 2007, 14:23:

gbeckler Re: Medellin / Real Estate To answer your question about real state in Medellin: $100.00 usd per square foot and, $1,000.usd per square meter, on high end properties.
The appreciation of real state last year was around 6%, but you have to consider that our inflate rate was 4.5% last year.

goin_south says on Feb 13, 2007, 16:39:

$100 per square foot??? USD? Lisa, I have no idea, but my first impression is that is pretty damn nice real estate!

Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

cuidate says on Feb 13, 2007, 17:15:

Interest Stuff I'm not a city boy and for sure would not want to live in either a high-rise or an enclave, especially one populated with extranjeros and designed to protect everyone from the natives. That's kind of the flavor I get from some of the posts here.

As an aside......what's a "prepago". I thought you were saying "prepaid" or some such but it's apparently one of those words in Spanish that isn't found in the dictionaries. Like Paisas.

Is a home in a rural setting an invitation to disaster in terms of the criminal element it might attract?

Lisa Zee says on Feb 13, 2007, 17:46:

Do no believe Do not believe what some idiots post here. They are supposed to be "sarcastic only". you are a perfect example, that gets the wrong impression, because some individuals are supposed to be 'funny'.

I will be living in rural areas in the future, and come to Medellin to shop and do business. Go visit and you will be impressed!

goin_south says on Feb 13, 2007, 17:58:

oh, I forgot to ask, then.... for a description of what one might get in Medellin for that sort of cost. Por favor.

Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 13, 2007, 18:40:

How much money do you have??? LOL!!!. Well..... look at those buildings in El Poblado, and a 3br. 2bt. or 2br. 2br. could cost you, $50.000 usd to $70.000usd, mas o menos. I can tell you more if you are really interested!.

utopiacowboy says on Feb 13, 2007, 19:18:

Poblado is a total rip off. Do you want to be the gringo that gets bent over? Living in your little cocoon with Colombians who like to pretend they're not even in Colombia. Check out El Tesoro mall and tell me that you're still in Colombia. I'd rather hang out at the toll booth in Los Cedros all day selling inedible foodstuffs. Notice the post above "How much money do you have?" Yep, that's what it's all about right there. Money, money, money. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 13, 2007, 19:41:

HA,ha,ha,ha,ha.JA.JA.JA That is so funny, ja,ja,ja,. You are so funny!, you are killing me!, ja.jaja,! They are right! you are a comedian!, ja.ha,ja,ha. Or is it sarcasm, hmmmmmmm, ja,ja,ja. keep up the good work!
SOUR GRAPES, SOUR GRAPES!!!.

utopiacowboy says on Feb 13, 2007, 21:46:

Tell me, Lisa Zee, is what you're doing that much different than what Aussie Greg is doing with the Medellin Mansion? I think Medellin and Colombia deserve better than hucksters selling it out piece by piece to ignorant gringos. And you're right, it's not very funny.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

goin_south says on Feb 13, 2007, 22:43:

I have the $200,000.00 that came with my monopoly game

Paz y prosperidad para Colombia.

and, thank you.

Lisa Zee says on Feb 13, 2007, 22:52:

VERY FUNNY, It is hysterical JA,JA,JA!!!! jA,JA,JA.Do you do birthday parties? Can I hire you for my son`s pinata???!.Can you also be the ass??? ja,ja,ja, Thanks to PBH I found a real clown for my sons B/day Party!!!.

SOUR GRAPES,SOUR GRAPES!!!

tomtom33 says on Feb 14, 2007, 02:17:

Poblado I found that I can be ignored by hot young ladies in their 20s just as easily in the US as I can in Poblado. That is not the case in other areas of Medellin.

Last month I bought an apartment in the La Setenta area, Barrio Conquistadores. They seem to like fat, old Gringos here. And the prices aren't bad here, either. The apartment is 140 square meters(4 bedroom, 4 bath) plus 30 meters of private terrace(2) plus 2 parking spaces in the building for 123 million. It's estrato 5.

morphus says on Feb 14, 2007, 15:50:

Tomtom33, why do you need so many rooms?

kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 14, 2007, 16:05:

why Hefner needs a mansion?
why Hefner needs a mansion?

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elchantajista says on Feb 14, 2007, 16:27:

sour grapes That's funny lisa jaja, hope u had a great Valentin day hope somebody made it special for u, tu tambien Kat Happy Valentin day,

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda en Bogota "Vicente"

kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 14, 2007, 16:37:

Happy valentines to you chantajista and thanks for the lovely poems in the spanish section ;))

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tomtom33 says on Feb 15, 2007, 05:40:

There are many rooms in my house for guests, of course. The apartment is about 6 blocks from the Universidad de Pacifica Basilica(I think). I was hoping to rent rooms to deserving coeds.

Actually Paisas have large families. You buy what is available.