Looking for ColombianoX

vladimiro says on Sep 23, 2005, 10:52:

Go check out the colombia forum at univsion.com, he might still be fighting with teen-agers over there:)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 23, 2005, 12:51:

Señor X, meet yourself this can only be ColombianoX himself trolling.

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kernow62 says on Sep 23, 2005, 20:30:

I am sure G5 will put you in contact with him. He is on good terms with ColX who honoured him as the successor to his Defensor crown. I am still waiting for G5 to start posting snippits of articles, alas I will have to await further.

G5 you should hand the title back to Monpiri.

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kernow62 says on Sep 23, 2005, 20:33:

Mr. Hollywood, I wonder how many other people noticed the similarity of Señor Monpirri's posts and those of the late ColX. Not very creative with the disguise.

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morphus says on Sep 23, 2005, 21:02:

he will emerge one day. they all come crawling back to these message boards. i miss him too in some kind of weird way. if i met him in Colombia, i would give him a hug.

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kernow62 says on Sep 23, 2005, 21:47:

You have to go to Florida to give him a hug.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 23, 2005, 22:38:

Why? Has he got diarhrea?

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quindioman says on Sep 24, 2005, 00:01:

i was about to comment that colombox finally scored......and now he's meant to be doing a Jekyll and Hyde....what fruits have you been divulging in Mr. X?

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morphus says on Sep 24, 2005, 06:33:

i think he lives in Orlando. i only go to Florida on my way to Colombia. i don't leave the airport.
the funny thing about CX is if he was born in Peru or Venezuela, he would be the defensor of those countries. thats why national pride does'nt make sense. its just something that is embedded into your brain as a youth. same thing with religion. anyway, theres nothing to be proud about if you are from any of the countries in the Americas. they were all invaded by Europeans.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 24, 2005, 08:59:

You're absolutely right, Morphus. Where you are born is a complete accident - it's not an accomplishment to be proud of.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kernow62 says on Sep 24, 2005, 09:18:

So what about all the flag wavers in the US. Are they wrong to have pride in their nationality?

I don't think ColX is in Orlando, I believe it is somewhere between Palm Beach and Ft. Lauderdale.

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tomtom33 says on Sep 24, 2005, 09:26:

Most flag wavers in the US were born and raised in the US. The raised part is what can validate one's feelings.

I am also proud of my Scandinavian heritage. But I was neither born nor raised there. And I do not consider myself an expert on the culture. Nor do I feel the need to defend it.

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Monpirri says on Sep 24, 2005, 10:23:

They are almost always politically correct... I would be very concerned about hanging out with people who are not proud of their heritage or their country. They do not contribute 100% culturally because they are very careful about what they say, they have a careless attitude, they are also very negative and have a lay back attitude, and in a heartbeat they are very easy to bribe. For example, for the right amount of money or for a food plate they will sell their country. We have seemed this in history with spies who did not love their country.
The proudless, they just flow with the wind, if somebody say something wrong about their country they just get off-course or join the circle of the political correct.

Monpirri AKA “Yo me llamo cumbia”

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 24, 2005, 10:33:

Everybody loves the place where they were born and grew up or a place that they've adopted as their home. I just can't get into the whole nationalistic thing where if your Olympic skeetshooting team wins a gold medal, you should be jumping up and down just because they happen to be your countrymen as though their accomplishment was also your accomplishment because you share a nationality. Or where everything in your country is better than everywhere else just because it's your country. Texans are certainly prone to that kind of behavior. OTOH I can see why other people would think it's just a big shit hole. Hell, I used to wonder why several million people were living in Montreal while I was freezing my ass off. Still, it's got its charm to those who love it.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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vladimiro says on Sep 24, 2005, 12:01:

Different types of nationalism "theres nothing to be proud about if you are from any of the countries in the Americas. they were all invaded by Europeans."

People can be overly nationalist, but there are some ancient countries whose history inspires a pride in thier people that has helped them bounce back after difficult time periods againg and again. Even during 200 years of domination by foriegners the Chinese believed they had a historic right to be the world power they had always been, and it was this unique Chinese pride that helped them bounce back eventually. China will be China a thousand years from now, but what will the USA be? Probably go the way of the Roman Empire:)

Its interesting how some countries always have a nationalist resurgence after being dominated by foriegners. Countries that are as old as Egypt are still speaking the same language they spoke thousands of years ago despite being conquered by Mongols, Arabs, Europeans, Russians while others like the Egyptians lose their language to their conquerers and disappeared.

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morphus says on Sep 24, 2005, 15:32:

theres no hope for mankind until all the races start mixing together and produce a new species of human. it will take thousands of years though.

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BxUnika says on Sep 24, 2005, 15:35:

National Pride "the funny thing about CX is if he was born in Peru or Venezuela, he would be the defensor of those countries. thats why national pride does'nt make sense. its just something that is embedded into your brain as a youth. same thing with religion. anyway, theres nothing to be proud about if you are from any of the countries in the Americas. they were all invaded by Europeans"

You know, I always thought this. It was kind of the luck of the draw as to what nationality/ethnicity we were born with and we did nothing to "earn" it nor can we change it. It is what it is.

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BxUnika says on Sep 24, 2005, 15:39:

Why "Proud"? Can't We Just Be Content? "I am also proud of my Scandinavian heritage. But I was neither born nor raised there. And I do not consider myself an expert on the culture. Nor do I feel the need to defend it."

I notice a lot of people have great pride about places they know nothing about or may never have been to simply becuase it is their heritage. Pride to me is stupid. We can acknowldge our heritage but I don't know about pride. What did we do to earn that "pride"?

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BxUnika says on Sep 24, 2005, 15:41:

Yup, You Are Right "I would be very concerned about hanging out with people who are not proud of their heritage or their country."

This is ColX. It's got to be same attitudes, same style of writing- even the quote at the bottom is in the same style.

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BxUnika says on Sep 24, 2005, 15:48:

Same Here, Utopia "I just can't get into the whole nationalistic thing where if your Olympic skeetshooting team wins a gold medal, you should be jumping up and down just because they happen to be your countrymen as though their accomplishment was also your accomplishment because you share a nationality. Or where everything in your country is better than everywhere else just because it's your country."

I remember the day before the Puerto Rican Parade here in NYC years ago young PRs were slapping five to everyone they recognized as Puerto Rican. That concept is foreign to me. A stranger you have never seen before is more important than a neighbor whom you see everyday simply because he is of the same ethnicity as you? Should I slap all White people five? Irish people?

I think there's a difference between recognition of your heritage/country and being pride (read: arrogant) about it. It's provincial, really. I have seen people who will talk to each other, associate with each other, and even befriend each other just because they are of the same ethnicity/race/religion even though they may have nothing else in common and may actually not even care for the other person that much. That to me is just ridiculous.

Same goes for voting for people just because of their ethnicities. Fpor example, did you know it was said Fernando Ferrer lost the NYC mayoral election 4 years ago because almost no Dominicans voted for him because he was Puerto Rican? That's ignorance at it's best.

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Sam Salmon says on Sep 24, 2005, 19:54:

Looking for ColombianoX? Look in the mirror your four dollar phony!
Jesus what an idiot!




' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

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Monpirri says on Sep 24, 2005, 20:22:

Is pride a sin? Or what is wrong with being proud! Why we celebrate the 4th of July? Because it is a celebration of patriotic pride.

Americans were proud when they stepped on the moon:
"America desperately needed some "pride"--anything for which to be
proud. Then, suddenly, out of nowhere, as Americans and the rest of the world stood in front of their televisions, two astronauts stepped on the moon in 1969. Up until then, America was putting people about 400 miles away in orbit--far away from the harmful Van Allen Belts. But suddenly Americans made it into outer space--landing and walking on the moon--250,000 miles away, no less?"

Why the Japanese are so successful in the automobile industry? Because "Two words stand out in Japan: work and pride" http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3165/is_v23/ai_5126815
Brazil soccer players are proud for being formidable soccer players, what is wrong with being proud?

ColombianoX is a proud Colombian, he is a person who highlights the positive issues about Colombia over the negative news and I have also placed several posts with positive issues. What is wrong for being proud?
A proud person usually loves to emphasize the positive vs. the mediocre. In my view, pride is the highest form of adrenaline that makes a citizen to reach for over achievement. That is why I say ColombianoX is a proud Colombian! As I said earlier, He is jus like a proud American, like a proud Italian, like a proud young Puerto Rican when he sits under the sun to play his congas.
A person lacking pride gets a rush by placing negative, disparaging remarks and insignificant comments about a subject and very often diminish woman. So far, I have seen this to be the case in some answers placed in the forum.

Here is another example of pride from World Quotes, this one I think is really awesome form of pride in the script:
“As the representatives of a people and a nation of Earth, I feel the immeasurable pride and I share the intensely felt emotion of the American people and the American Nation in the first human contact with the lunar planet.”
SRI(HM) Savang Vatthana

Monpirri AKA "Yo me llamo Cumbia"

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 24, 2005, 21:26:

If pride is so wonderful why is it one of the seven deadly sins? Why do we have a proverb which says "Pride goeth before a fall"? I was proud of how my children played football today but I was proud of all the players even those from the opposing teams. Pride just seems to come from a place that says I am better than you because blah, blah, blah. And to be proud of some accidental thing like which country you were born in, you may as well be proud of having two ears.

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morphus says on Sep 24, 2005, 22:58:

theres nothing wrong with being proud. i'm proud of my mixed heritage. its bad when you are so proud that it affects your judgement and ignore certain facts.

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Monpirri says on Sep 25, 2005, 11:23:

Beauty Is in the Eye of the Beholder I have been a member of Poorbuthappy about less than two weeks, but I have noticed that the ColombianCowboy living in Utopia has been very vocal, I don’t even know this “Colombian” guy. However, Mr. utopiacowboy has been a vivid antagonist of what I have stated. In restrospect, I believe he wants to teach me so far, three things:
1. Who is who in the Spanish Television in the USA. See thread “ So much ignorance, so little” http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/13231
2. He has been trying to teach all about what is to be a proud Colombian.
3. And now he wants to teach about religion. “If pride is so wonderful why is it one of the seven deadly sins?”

I really want to meet you because you will be able to teach me all these facts that I do not know, and furthermore I would like to invite you join the Colombian Association in Austin, and perhaps I become your most faithful disciple on positive Colombian affairs.

Monpirri AKA "Yo me llamo Cumbia"

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 13:01:

I think you need a disclaimer, dude! And a chill pill.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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aztec says on Sep 25, 2005, 14:33:

Two weeks monpirri1... ...is not enough time. You will find the most outrageous people on this site often offer the wisest counsel. I have learned to pay more attention to their comments.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 25, 2005, 14:43:

ColombiaCowboy Monpirri, if you paid better attention you'd realize that Utopia is a Canadian-born Texan, not a Colombian. His wife and stepkids are the Colombians.

My curiousity is why people like ColX and now Monpirri think Colombia needs so much defending?

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Monpirri says on Sep 25, 2005, 17:37:

It is an Ironic a Canadian born in Texas,,, It is an ironic that Canadian born in Texas have been challenging me in several issues concerning Colombia. I admire your intuition.
I am going to take the pill that you suggested, but first, let me say this for the record. First of all, I congratulate you for marrying a fine Colombian lady.

I have noticed that you like to create animosity or conflict among the members, and when someone ask for a specific question about culture or Colombia you respond with a sarcastic remark and ambiguity. And when things became out your control you flash the disclaimer card. You just flashed the disclaimer card on this subject:
Is there a really popular juice in Colombia?
http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/13337#comment

Here you provide information:

Any Colombians in South Carolina
You can go to the smallest redneck burg in the US and you'll find a Colombian. I bet there's some of them in Fargo, North Dakota freezing their asses off.
http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/13321#comment

And here, you show all the Colombians and other cultures that visit this site for helpful information, what to expect.
Why? Has he got diarhrea?

How about now you taking the pill, and read and read carefully the posts several times before posting and if you have meaningful information that is going to help someone, please by all means post it. I am pretty sure you have done that in the past! But please remain silence when you do not know the answer or you are not sure.
I am just concern about the virtual tourist who want to learn about Colombia.

Monpirri

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 18:16:

I used to always post the disclaimer but then I got lazy. Besides anyone familiar with the site just zips past my posts - they're mostly for my own amusement. BTW, being sarcastic is a Canadian national characteristic. We can't help it, it's our handicap but at least it allows us to park in those special parking places.

You're sure that I've posted meaningful information in the past? I wouldn't count on it, Senor. I get on the site when I've got a minute to kill by posting some nonsense. You're taking this site (and life) way too seriously.

Finally, you think I married a fine Colombian lady? That's odd. Frank thinks I married a Strata 1 hooker. Geez, in that case, I hope she's giving me a discount.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kernow62 says on Sep 25, 2005, 20:04:

I think that Canadian characteristic was a gift from Britain. You are welcome.

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platano says on Sep 25, 2005, 21:55:

Welcome back, ColX! Plátano X
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Gomezman5 says on Sep 25, 2005, 22:22:

Platano...... Now here this:

Cx is NOT back. Take my word for it. I know Cx better than anyone out here. We email several times a week. He is reading the posts though. Take my word for it, because the only way I really know what is being said about him is when I get an email from him telling me about what so and so said. And like I said Kernow, your stock in his book went down. You should not have been so conclusory. Like I said, he defended you a few times.

Here is my take. Why is it that if someone comes on here and defends Cx, people automatically assumes that it could not possibly be a real person who supports Cx, but it is Cx, coming back under an assumed name pretending to be a supporter of Cx.

Well you can take my word for it. Cx does has his supporters. By the way, you guys know how I stand on many issues. And you also know that that my stand is not always in agreement with Cx's. I really think it is important to emphasize that point. My defense of Cx is on principal, not because we thought like two peas in a pod. I like Cx as a person. Unlike some people here, it didn't post just to criticize others. He posted his opinion and when people disagreed, he stood up for what I believed, but he did never got personal and started attacking people.

So if some people here want to be so short sighted and not realize that they are insulting Cx by stating that he has returned covertly, they can do so. But all I ask is that they think about his feelings, when they think that way. Cx didn't do anything to most of you guys that you feel that you have to destroy his credibility.

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platano says on Sep 25, 2005, 22:28:

Well, wherever he is.... I hope he is well... No offense was intended. Whoever is imitating him is doing a good job.

Plátano X
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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kernow62 says on Sep 26, 2005, 04:57:

So what you are saying is that you have talked to him and this isn't him? OK, good enough for me.

Monpirri who wasn't even a member when ColX was on the list is certainly a vocal supporter, nothing wrong with that. He has also imitated ColX's style very well. And what is it they say about imitation?

I think the time has come for you G5 and Platano to hand over the Defensor crown to Monpirri, he has earned it.

G5 you have done nothing to lay legit claim to the title. Where are all the links to "interesting" articles that relate to Colombia, such as those ColX used to post, such as those Platano posts, or even my radio or chocolate posts. You sir are an imposter to the crown! :-)

I could care less whether my stock went down in ColX's book. Is that supposed to matter to me? If ColX wants to talk let him do so, he can send me a PM or an E-mail (you may give him my E-mail).

And ColX as you are monitoring these posts, people's feelings will get hurt on forums, it is part and parcel of forums. If you let it bother you enough to leave you are giving in. Would ColX do that?

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kernow62 says on Sep 26, 2005, 06:02:

Who should wear the Defensor crown? I say we should put it to vote, after all ColX didn't publicly anounce who should succeed him.

Here are the contenders (except ColX, his posts are for point of comparison).
The late departed Defensor
ColombianoX's forum posts

* U.S. slow on Colombia's arms aid
* Uribe, un presidente sin ocaso
* Presidente Álvaro Uribe presentó hoy un documento con las metas del país para el año 2019
* ¿Made in Colombia? Algunos símbolos nacionales no son tan colombianos como se cree
* Qué viva la decencia!
* More good news!! Colombia is NO longer world's kidnapping capital!
* Great news!! Mexico, NOT Colombia, is now the TOP SUPPLIER of U.S. Drugs!!
* COLOMBIA 2099
* Marc Anthony and Jennifer Lopez in Colombia
* Hasta de E.U. están llegando visitantes exclusivamente a la Feria de las Flores de Medellín

Contender 1
monpirri1's forum posts

* Looking for ColombianoX
* SHAKIRA nominada de nuevo - 33rd Annual American Music Awards
* SHAKIRA nominated again...
* Colombian Restaurants in the States and Overseas
* THE NATIONAL MUSIC OF COLOMBIA IS CUMBIA
* LA CUMBIA ES LA MUSICA NACIONAL DE COLOMBIA
* Sigue recorriendo y conociendo a Colombia con los Nómadas.
* Información desde el Consulado- Huracán Katrina

Contender 2
platano's forum posts

* Colombia president rides popularity wave
* Uribe Annoyed and Angered by French Efforts to Free Hostages
* Has anyone seen this Colombian film? Do you recommend it?
* Would a FARC victory be a terrible thing?
* The Condor in Colombia: A Conservation Challenge
* COMPOSTING UNDER FIRE
* Civil Military Relations in Colombia
* Colombian Composers Featured: Gustavo Adolfo Rengifo, Jose Antonio Rincon, and J. Reina
* Deso Fashion Show Sells Weapons to Colombia
* Colombia to Limit Import of Chinese Textile Products

Contender 3
Gomezman5's forum posts

* Uribe on Fox's Neil Cavuto (For you Cx)
* With Team Colombia, There Is Never A Dull Moment
* Mi Patria, a Few Songs, & What I Am
* BIRDS !! Does Colombia have the most Species?
* LA SELECTION COLOMBIANA will win today !!!
* Peru 0 Uruguay 0 2nd Half
* Copa Mundial 2006: Will Colombia be disqualified AGAIN?
* Peter is Helping Us, So Let's Help Peter
* Killing of U.S. Judge shows how different the U.S. is from Col.
* Maria Full of Grace Oscar nomination? It came at a cost that is too high for me!

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Gomezman5 says on Sep 26, 2005, 07:18:

Hey...maybe Platano was Cx all the time!!! So Cx really isn't gone.....(Sorry Cx, you are busted)

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Monpirri says on Sep 26, 2005, 08:05:

Post-traumatic stress...Let's wait! Thank you for considering me for this very important post, I feel honored, but let's slow down, this is not the Indianapolis 500.
ColombianosX is going through a post-traumatic stress, he needs time to overcome all the verbal terrorist attacks. Let’s be honest with ourselves there is a lot of cultural ignorance on this medium. Just put yourself in his places and you will realize what I am talking about. We need ColombianoX back, he is really brilliant.
I believe the best qualified persons to take the title of “Defensor de la Colombianidad!” is ColombianoX, if by some incurable medical reason he does not want to return to this site, the best qualified persons are Gomezman5's and Desideria.

Monpirri AKA “Yo me llamo Cumbia”

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 26, 2005, 08:47:

monpirri, I'm deeply honoured to be nominated as a candidate. You're doing a fine job yourself as the Defensor in absence of the real Colombiano X (?)

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 26, 2005, 09:32:

no coment

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platano says on Sep 26, 2005, 12:26:

I vote for monpirri... Plátano X
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Monpirri says on Sep 26, 2005, 12:26:

Epa Jee! Viejo ColombianoX regresa y no vamos de rumba con todos nuestros amigos de este foro.
Todos no vamos para un finca hermosa en Colombia al lado de un bravo rio a charlar y ha comer sancoño de gallina al fogón, carne asada a la llanera, caribañola y jugo de todos las frutas, como te parece la idea? Y por que no, nos metemos una mojarra frita con patacón.


Tu hermano,
Monpirri AKA "Yo me llamo Cumbia"

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Gomezman5 says on Sep 26, 2005, 14:09:

monpirri I feel most honored. But, while I have a lot of repspect for Cx personally, if you read my threads, you will quickly note that I can be fairly criticl of Colombia. In fact, I am always informing people of my sentiments, and then I get a whole bunch people (a majority of which are not Colombian) jumping on my case for doing so. I always remind people that this site is not an an extenison of Colombia's tourist bureau of tourism, although people here act that way.

Although.....since Cx's departure, I have toned down the rhetoric (with minor exceptions) and have sort of caved into the masses here. There is still a lot of US bashing going on, but......I just consider the sources. Anyway, I think you monpirri are a candidate to be his successor. Are you up to the task that awaits you? If so, all I ask is that you get prescreened by Cx. He can ask you a few basic questions, and if after that he consludes that you are the right man for the job, than ....it's yours. Give it some thought

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kernow62 says on Sep 26, 2005, 18:58:

I would like to be a fly on the wall. ;-)

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protocol13 says on Oct 16, 2005, 12:56:

Guillermo Restrepo/Hammer Londoño and Ricardo Mayorga. Don't know much about Restrepo's departure, but Hammer Londoño (on Spanish radio) and Ricardo Mayorga (on Telemundo/Univision), had a similar confrontations with the Mexican listeners over what many of them felt was too harsh criticism of Mexico or its National team or its idol Hugo Sanchez or Mexican sports in general. At times, Londoño received several phone calls from the Mexican listeners stating that they where going to pressure the radio station to fire him. He replied that no amount of pressure will make him change his opinion to conform to the will of this certain group. Mayorga suffered a similar fate and was the subject of immense campaign in the form of calls, letters and postings on the Univision website that wanted him to be fired for being anti-Mexican.
It is unfortunate that the Spanish radio stations and Television stations that although located in the USA and the mayority stock is owned by non-Mexicans, have bended to pressures of Mexican activists and their cohorts and stooges.

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protocol13 says on Oct 16, 2005, 13:00:

It is unfortunate that society is now controlled by the political correct group that makes it hard to criticize anything without being called a racists or anti this or anti that.

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