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Limpieza Social of Paramilitaries against sex tourism: Reloaded

Limpieza Social of Paramilitaries against sex tourism.
Rumors are that the Limpieza Social of Paramilitaries against prostitues (or prepagos) will go on in Medellin. A particular mention has been made about Gringo's prepagos and sex tourists.  We will probably witness interesting development in the near future.
By robi666 on 2008-03-15 11:48:11 in Friendly Talkzone.

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 11:49:
It is all about the content of some new fliers up in the barrios.  Muerte a los gringos?

pedro says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 11:52:
No way. a limpieza social on prepagos?  I sense a new Colombian militia about to rise up, in defense of prepagos.  I thought paracos were the highest profile user of prepagos, anyway? Do they just want to corner the market? I imagine the gringos would be fairly easy to muscle out, to say the least.
¡save pow wow!

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 11:56:
There have been strange deaths of young women in Medellin during the last month. Now a gringo shoot down, whether in Parque Lleras or in a barrio up on the hill, would be an effective example for all.

kat1 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:03:
Morphus should do something about!!!!

pedro says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:06:
Aha. I'm seeing a complete change of brand name for the Medellin Mansion.  It will now be called Fortress Medellin. "Only the brave".
¡save pow wow!

Rubito says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:22:
robi666 what is your motive in posting this CRAP???  My wife worked on and off for two years in the very BIRTHPLACE of the AUC and there was a good two putaderos out of four buildings on every street corner, and nobody said or did a thing against it.   Do you have any proof?
---Violence is the price of freedom.---

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:29:
As I wrote, rumors, Rubito, nothing more... do I need proof to post? Take it or leave it, I don't care.  Be wary, this "modus operandi" of "limpieza social" is not strange at all, putas have been targeted before, although it is strange the open reference to gringos.

RAAAY says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:32:
Interestingly........I have heard the exact same thing..............The manner in which I heard it was during my romp up to M.T 's barrio n the hill.  My friend made some calls to two people he knows in that neighbourhood seeking to confirm presence of Aguilla Negros there.  He was told that a sort of public meeting was held in the soccer pitch in the barrio. People were informed that there was going to be no more toleration of Gays, junkies, petty crime etc etc and that very soon something was to going to be done about the prepagos and particularry the Gringos par-taking of them.  There have been stories of prepagos being killed in the last two months.......in one week there were six killed.  Rubito............I trust my source on this...........Take it whatever way you want...........  .
.... I can resist everything.....except temptation..........................

kat1 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:37:
It can be true.. nothing surprise me anymore with this people... they have always been doing "limpiezas sociales"

Rubito says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:42:
limpieza social traditionally means killing kids who rob people, usually the gamines.  Once again all I can say is, those pieces of fucking garbage better stay FAR away from Bogota. They may as well stuff their arms into a food processor as go over there!
---Violence is the price of freedom.---

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:42:
Yes yes Rubito... ok

RAAAY says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:43:
I'm sure you big bad boys in Bogota really have them shaking in their boots.
.... I can resist everything.....except temptation..........................

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:48:
LOL

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 12:54:
Rubito says, "robi666 what is your motive in posting this CRAP???"  How about to inform others of the possible dangers when in Medellin, nothing more.  Robi666, Thanks for the info, keep us posted.  Is RAAAY acknowledging the presence of los famosos Aguilla Negros?

Medellin1975 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:04:
Isn't Rubito that fat old balding guy with a little ponytail?

vicshere says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:31:
come on rob your making this up like this video http://www.startvg.com/videos/whosinside.html
listo

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:32:
Rubito does not look fat, old nor bald from the picture posted in his profile. A good looking guy if you ask me. And I see he is a senior member of internationalsexguide, so he may knows things better than us.

Cerealkiller says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:33:
Paras (aguilas negras, grupos de auto defensa, etc etc) have always done that. Its their way of marking their territory, they'll get rid of the gays, kill all the putas and bring their own putas...this is not new. El Tiempo published an article on Aguilas Negras in Medellin just yesterday. I cant be arsed to look it up, but if anyone is interested it should be easy to find.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:38:
Esa es verdad, CK.

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 13:52:
I was actually surprised how open some young gay men walked about the barrios, thought it was good to see that they didn't have to hide from fear of being targeted.   It didn't seem to me that anyone really cared about these young men hanging out.   They are from barrio, so what's the big deal? Or are they reffering to male prostitutes working the streets?  Is Colombia homophobic?

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 14:07:
Here's an article in El Munco... which is in addition to another one that was posted the other day as well.   It seems, from the recent press, that they are becoming more open about their activites.  How can they get away with such actions? Are not the police responsible for policing the streets?   I understand the motivations for "la limpieza social" but who are they to take matters into their own hands and decide who lives and who doesn't?  ------------------------------------- La localidad tiene altos índices de consumo de estupefacientes  Panfletos hablan de limpieza social  Volantes que se dieron a conocer en ciertos puntos de Envigado y que se refieren a un ataque a los consumidores de drogas fueron hechos por la comunidad, según investigaciones.  Al igual que en Medellín, en Envigado, sur del Valle de Aburrá, se vieron panfletos que amenazaban con una limpieza social —asesinato a consumidores y expendedores de drogas— en puntos específicos del municipio.   “En esos papeles decía que no respondían por nadie que estuviera después de las 9 de la noche en la calle��?, dijo Clara Inés Monsalve*.  Sin embargo, las investigaciones realizadas por la Policía arrojaron que estos volantes fueron hechos por alguien de la comunidad que buscaba generar temor en ciertos grupos del municipio.   De esta manera lo expresó la secretaria de Gobierno de Envigado, Luz María Restrepo Botero, quien aseguró que “hicieron la investigación respectiva y al parecer es alguien de la comunidad con la intención de atemorizar algunos espacios donde hay venta y consumo de estupefacientes��?. Agregó la funcionaria, “pero que no es nada de verdad de limpieza, porque igual en el papel daban 8 días de plazo y ya van 15��?.   Aún así una parte de la comunidad expresa temor, como lo manifestó la señora Monsalve, pues según dice, “a nosotros nos preocupa que se vivan épocas como las que tuvimos hace 15 ó 20 años, donde mataban a los muchachos que consumían vicio��?.   El consumo de drogas   “Por acá uno puede ver a muchos muchachos fumando vicio, eso ya prácticamente es algo común��?, sostuvo Monsalve.   No muy lejos de la realidad está la afirmación de esta ciudadana, pues la misma secretaria de Gobierno admitió que el municipio tiene altos índices de consumo de estupefacientes.   La señora Restrepo Botero expresó que “la verdad es que nosotros tenemos, en Envigado, un alto índice de consumo de drogas. Venimos atacando esto de una manera frontal con la Fiscalía��?.  Explicó la funcionaria que han estado atentos a la comunidad, pues en los momentos que ellos manifiestan donde hay expendios de drogas procuran hacer un informe y adelantar las gestiones necesarias.   “Ya se han dado dos allanamientos que han sido positivos, inclusive, se han detenido tres personas en estos lugares donde se encontró el expendio de drogas��?, anotó.   Homicidios y hurtos   Durante los primeros meses del año Medellín presentó un incremento en el número de muertos —la cifra aumentó durante el mes de enero, en febrero el índice bajó equiparándose con el mismo mes del 2007—, sin embargo el número de asesinatos en el municipio del sur fue bajo.   “Yo me acuerdo de dos personas que mataron dentro de un taxi, eso fue hace poco, como unas dos o tres semanas��?, dijo Juan José Bermúdez.* y narró, “eso fue en la noche y los mataron, según me dijeron, porque intentaron hacer un robo y a uno de los dos lo hirieron y se fueron para el hospital de acá (Envigado), pero después de que lo atendieron salieron en un taxi y por allá, por la canalización de la Ayurá, unos tipos en una moto pararon el carro, hicieron bajar al conductor y les dispararon a los dos��?.   Aunque es una hipótesis extraoficial del doble asesinato, esas dos muertes hacen parte de las tres que tiene la Secretaría de Gobierno del Municipio en sus registros del 2008.   Aunque las tres muertes no representan un incremento con respecto al mismo periodo del 2007, la señora Restrepo Botero reconoció que tuvieron un aumento en los hurtos.   “Veníamos con una racha de hurtos. Unas personas que, logramos identificar no eran de Envigado, venían en moto y hacían sus robos. Con la comunidad nos dimos a la tarea de que nos informaran y nos dieran las características de estas personas, de esta manera logramos dar con la captura de cinco ladrones��?, anotó la funcionaria.   Quisimos corroborar la información que suministró la funcionaria con la Policía, pero se dificultó la comunicación con el oficial encargado.   La señora Restrepo Botero insistió en que trabajan por el objetivo que planteó el alcalde, Diego Gallo Riaño. “El doctor Gallo quiere hacer un trabajo muy de la mano con la comunidad, por eso venimos haciendo unos consejos barriales de seguridad, estamos fortaleciendo la red de apoyo, las alarmas comunitarias y los frentes de seguridad, vamos a comprar un CAI móvil, para ofrecer mayor seguridad en todo el municipio��?, concluyó la funcionaria.   * Nombres cambiados por petición de las fuentes.

tomtom33 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 14:37:
War of the Worlds, otra vez.

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 14:42:
tomtom, You have to agree there has been a spike in activity as of late, just read the local papers in Medellin.   The gringo-target is a new twist, indeed.

tomtom33 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 15:55:
The prepago killings of last fall could have been twisted into something as well. Shit happens, especially in Colombia.  I hear a lot of rumors. Hell, it was rumored that war had begun.

vicshere says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 15:57:
yea I wonder who started that rumor "the war has started" dam the same poster as this one
listo

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:16:
What's up Vic? 80 posts, 2947 comments and you cannot just forget that little experiment? :)  Again, there's nothing so unbelievable in this. Prostitutes have been a target before. New activities are reported in Medellin. About gringos, in spite of the rumors and fliers, I don't think they will target them openly, but who knows, there's a logical reason behind it.

vicshere says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:24:
rob you said  A particular mention has been made about Gringo's prepagos and sex tourists. in your OP
listo

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:28:
Uh?

poco says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:28:
Quote: My friend made some calls to two people he knows in that neighbourhood seeking to confirm presence of Aguilla Negros there.  This makes more sense. If and when we seen something about this besides rumors it will be protection rackets and gangs as the reason. Paramilitaries,, no, gangs yes. My question might be: Will Medellin figure out the paras weren't all that bad.  Vishere Quote: yea I wonder who started that rumor "the war has started" dam the same poster as this one  But this one is a RUMOR,,, much better. Believe it or not but I've seen an increase in gang activity and it's not a rumor. Enough of an increase that I'm starting to think Panama looks pretty good.
"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:30:
Funny, I am thinking about a sailboat at the moment.

poco says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:43:
Quote: Funny, I am thinking about a sailboat at the moment.  Are you thinking of selling that good looking finca, stripping the teak and building a sailboat?
"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

RAAAY says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:49:
Robi's " Finca " is made up of tin and brick...............not great material for making a boat.........  .
.... I can resist everything.....except temptation..........................

poco says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:54:
Quote: Robi's " Finca " is made up of tin and brick...............not great material for making a boat.........  Humm, so what's this?  http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/is-renting-out-a-property-a-good-business-proposition/
"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

RAAAY says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 16:57:
. Medellin Trav says...." Is RAAAY acknowledging that presence of los famosos Aguilla Negros?    I challange you to find one comment of mine that said I was'nt aware of their presence. The only thing I challanged were your stupid exaggarations.........  For example......  MT says...." What are your thoughts on the 10:00pm curfew the paracos have annuonced for all the barrios in Antioquia last week?  All the paisas were put on notice that no one is supposed to be on the streets and in their homes by 10:00pm. The paracos have been enforcing the curfew by making the presence known in the barrios until 3:00am.  The paracos are out in full force wearing black clothing from head to toe, while carrying firearms, in full view throughout the barrios in Antioquia."    .
.... I can resist everything.....except temptation..........................

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 18:18:
Stupid to you.................  Who cares how I worded my initial post, besides you.....................  AND........... your response was very sophmoric, which included a fabricated story, timeline, and altered pictures to go along with your fantasy, something I would have expected from Medo..... not big bad RAAAY, it was entertaining to say the least.  RAAAY says, "Rubito............I trust my source on this...........Take it whatever way you want..........."  How naive of you, not only to listen to them, but to actually believe they are telling you, a gringo, the truth.....  That is basically what you stated in your reply to my initial post when I commented that three of my contacts in the barrio confirmed what I had heard about the curfew.  You are soooooooooooooooooooo naive...........................  At the time of my initial post, I had just gotten off the phone, after talking to my contacts in the barrio.... they said................ (en espanol, of course)   "that they were put on notice that no one is supposed to be on the streets and all should be in their homes by 10:00pm. The paracos have been enforcing the curfew by making the presence known in the barrios until 3:00am.  The paracos are out in full force wearing black clothing from head to toe, while carrying firearms, in full view throughout the barrios in Antioquia."  If it did not translate to your satisfaction, that's your problem, not mine..... no need to challenge anyone to a duel, or fabricate silly foolish little fantasies about going up into the barrio at 6:00pm and taking photos from the back seat of a car while hiding underneath a sack of La chiquita bananas...................... I love chiquita bananas, by the way.  The message is what was important......... but you wanted to turn it into a ........... for whatever reasons....................

robi666 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 18:25:
Poco, that finca is the only thing I'd keep...

wendell13 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 18:28:
I wouldn't be posting my foto on this site

CatGirl says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 18:39:
Robbi: I am late on this thread, nice finca  Wendell: This is the second or possibly third comment you have made of this fashion.  So please fill me in? I can understand why certain things a person needs to be careful with since this is NOT a secure site, as I can Google anything or anyword used and - Wow - there's a thread from PBH Anyways...so why the comment?
Love is a Verb

deathnova says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 18:58:
I'm just pro-sex, tourism or otherwise :-D

CatGirl says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 19:17:
jajaja....
Love is a Verb

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 19:40:
I think prostitution and drugs should be legalized on the whole planet.   It doesn't make sense that prostitution is legal in two states in the US, and not the others. Or does it?

Aaron21 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 19:43:
Yeah, he looks more like Eminem.... : )

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 19:50:
Aaron21, Yes, I do look like Eminem, without the bling-bling!

CatGirl says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 20:02:
Purrr
Love is a Verb

Medellin Traveler says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 20:10:
Ha-Ha,  I usually edit most of my comments after posting, spelling errors, grammer, and puncution are not my strong points. I'm a screenwriter, and have editors korrect all my mistakes. But, I write a whole lot everyday, always have two, three, twenty things on my mind........

Aaron21 says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 20:42:
However your edit makes my comment appear to be a non-sequitur - not that I care really ... : )

CatGirl says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 21:02:
Aaron: Maybe there is future post on what really happened.. :)))...until then - CIAO
Love is a Verb

poco says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 21:12:
Quote: It doesn't make sense that prostitution is legal in two states in the US, and not the others. Or does it?  Yes, how other would late night comedians get new material?  Leno: What's the highest paying job in the U.S. government?  Working under the governor of New York.  
"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

RAAAY says on Saturday March 15th, 2008 22:39:
MT says........... " which included a fabricated story, timeline, and altered pictures to go along with your fantasy,"  I was actually going to send you an e-mail last week, to clarify weather you were being funny and indulging in sarcasim, with your various comments on my post.   It appears that you are indeed even more niave than I thought. Your comments about altered photos, altered timelines and the veracity of the story, are indeed what you believe. You are not joking around.  Helped by Robi and the other lads, taking the piss out of you, you actually believe that I was bullshitting. You believe I was'nt were I was, at the time I said, and that I doctored pictures.   Believe me, I have better things to do with my time than concoct stories for your amusement. In an earlier post I commented that others here consider you dumb............but I don't.   Seems that I was wrong.   .
.... I can resist everything.....except temptation..........................

Medellin Traveler says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 7:10:
I could well say the same thing about you...... but didn't really understand your fascination with my initial posts.... you were very adamant about proving me wrong, for whatever reason, when the important thing was to make people aware of life in Medellin, if you had better things to do in your life.... you should have "gone did did 'em," but no, you jumped on your motorcycle and rode up the mountains like some hero ready to save the day................  In anycase.... I know enough about that particular barrio to know what's going on there.......... don't need someone risking their life by trying to prove me wrong. To think, I was actually worried about you after you posted your sick and twisted photo and comments as your reply to your adventures in the barrio......... you thought that was funny, so I think your second reply is a joke as well.   RAAAY says, "Rubito............I trust my source on this...........Take it whatever way you want..........."  How naive of you, not only to listen to them, but to actually believe they are telling you, a gringo, the truth.....  That is basically what you stated in your reply to my initial post when I commented that three of my contacts in the barrio confirmed what I had heard about the curfew.  Lots of people on here have said things about you, but I have given you the benefit of the doubt..........   Seems that I was wrong.

robi666 says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 7:23:
Ray and MT, I think that you should stop it, kiss each other like at the party and forget... :)  Ray was really up there, in his first post he stretched the time, but afterwards he corrected it. My joke was built up on that wrong time. On the other side, I do not think M_T really wanted to say that the curfew was happening everywhere. He let his hand slide on that.  Ray did not find anything strange up there, but he was not in the right barrio to find something, probably, nor there were big chances that he could really see something.  Ray is a curious guy, and I don't think that he really believed in those facts at the very first moment. But, after a couple of day, his man in Medellin, came back with a story that he reported in this thread.  In those days, Spimi and Roci reported a couple of stories by their own, enforcing the idea of a spike in the activities of "limpieza social". The fact that they were talking about barrios that are not up on the hill is to be noted. I met Spimi and he personally told me about a new interesting story.  Again, there is nothing strange about it. Voices, meetings and pamphlets are recurrent facts in Colombia, almost anywhere. Medellin, Barranquilla, Santa Marta, etc. Not in Bogota, where they are afraid of Rubito.  The curious part is that I was reported by two different sources about the prepagos and gringo thing, and Ray was reported about the same by his guy. And that is what this thread is all about.

Medellin Traveler says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 8:29:
robi666,  I AGREE.  It's not about RAAAY or MT, it's about getting the information out there to help make people aware of life in Medellin; good, bad, or otherwise.  I love RAAAY............... had the best time with him at the party in January. He owes me a few beers for my sleepless night after posting his lovely picture after his adventure trip.   robi666 says, "I met Spimi and he personally told me about a new interesting story.  The curious part is that I was reported by two different sources about the prepagos and gringo thing, and Ray was reported about the same by his guy. And that is what this thread is all about."  Do share....  Let's get back to the regularly scheduled program.... life in Medallo.

tejasmarcos says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 10:31:
where's the medellinmadman? he can probably clear all this up.
although i live in a box, i don't think like it.......

Medellin1975 says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 10:33:
or Pepe A could also shed some light on the subject....

tejasmarcos says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 10:36:
i was out last night and saw pepea kick the chit out of the medellin madman. it was like a one, two punch and the madman was out! i'm not sure what they were arguing about, but that pepea sure can fight!
although i live in a box, i don't think like it.......

PepeA says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 19:50:
I don't even know who you are talking about? ;)
Visit my website http://www.LaCasaMedellin.com/

eywed says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 19:53:
Don't leave us hanging PepeA lets here te story.
Ay Hombe!!!!!

MitchAlvarez says on Sunday March 16th, 2008 23:54:
man if this post is true.........se jodieron half of the pbhers jajaaja   pobresitos
I dont spell check and i spanglish alot. Sorry but I am paisa y montañero. :)

rocinante says on Monday March 17th, 2008 10:35: edit
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"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

morphus says on Monday March 17th, 2008 10:43:
"Morphus should do something about!!!!"  Why me? I don't care about prepagos.

billyb says on Monday March 17th, 2008 10:53:
??, are people deleting their posts again?

rocinante says on Monday March 17th, 2008 12:19: edit
I never really said anything and was in the wrong thread - hence the dot.   Billy you know I am anti edit - anti delete. I don't really know about this topic so I have nothing to offer (as usual). Sorry.
"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

azunoman says on Monday March 17th, 2008 12:38:
I live in Maricopa County Arizona and our country sheriff Joseph M. (Joe) Arpaio has been labeled as "America's Toughest Sheriff". Think NY crime rate went down with Gulianni it would be a wonder at what Joe could have done.  Well...there is nothing like the RULE OF FRICKING LAW. If people are breaking the law and the jails a little cramp, then put up some tents, weather is perfect at least in Medellin for it...but those that abide by the law really don't care where you put it  We have a 'real' posse, chain gangs (men and women), and you serve 100% of your bloody time, no porn magazines and no TV. Puts a stop to that right quick :)  Sheriff Joe and the Rock 
"Ready, Fire, Aim"

billyb says on Monday March 17th, 2008 13:29:
Roci, I know you are against edits, that made your dot surprising. But my ??? was because I couldn't figure who Morph is replying to when he said "why Me? I don't care about prepagos".

LDW says on Monday March 17th, 2008 13:29:
Most of us have heard about this limpieza social before. It was going on in Cali for some time.  It is ugly, but no matter how much we disapprove, I doubt that outsiders like most of us are will make much of a difference one way or the other. None of us as individuals can change the world, as a whole, although our individual behavior can have some effect on our immediate surroundings.  Best thing for outsiders? Don't patronize the putaderos. It seems that some Colombians don't like foreigners' use of putas, so........don't contribute to the problem. Beyond that, let the Colombian police deal with it. That is there job.   I am an old guy. I just want my fresh coffee, fresh oranges and pineapple, and my 18 holes of golf.

Mr. Hollywood says on Monday March 17th, 2008 13:36:
Someone needs to make a T-shit: "Colombian Hookers for Colombians Only!"

lpdiver says on Monday March 17th, 2008 14:54:
Why would anyone PAY for chimba in Colombia? You can get all you want for free just wandering around the cities and not even looking for it.  t

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:28:
Tejas- too funny. PepeA getting in a fight? Now that is not surprising. Was it one of those prepagos running from him that he decided to beat her up or did the "Mister I have the best Internet connection in Colombia" beat up one of his customers. Must have been the customer on ISG complaining how crappy his Internet is.  And the extortion freak wonders why people run from him.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:38:
Doodle, Why smear a person on the internet ?  If you have a problem with Pepe address it to him and not the internet..
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:42:
I didn't realize asking Tejas who he beat up was smearing someone. The part about him being an extortion freak and people running from him is a fact and all the regulars on this board know it so why not post it for anyone looking for information on Colombia to see. That's what this board is for... informing people of things to do, places to see, and people to stay away from.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:45:
I have lived in Colombia the last 8 1/2 years , and know if someone screws over people , that person is dealt with by the people he screws over.  Look what happened to the marriage agency guy in Cali , Colombia last year.
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:47:
Uhh - DD....that implant you put in the thread, could possibly set off a seizure. No fooling.;))
Love is a Verb

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:50:
perhaps if PepeA were to not blantantly "smear" others by lieing on the Internet about others, than others such as myself would not post negative "FACTS" about PepeA.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:51:
CatGirl, sorry about that. I have no intent to harm anyone .
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:51:
DD: You are so thoughtful - ;)
Love is a Verb

LDW says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:52:
Dodger Dogs......  I have heard about those agencies.....I have seen them on Youtube.  What happened to to the one you are talking about? What were they doing that pissed the wrong people off?  Note......I am not, and never have been, a potential client of theirs.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:54:
doodle,  I will call your bluff show your cards.   Name people he extorted and prepagos he allegedly beat up , also how when and where have you been a victim of Pepe ?
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:56:
sure.. what's your email address  by the way, to clarify. I did not say he has beaten up a prepago. I did infer that they run away from him.

robi666 says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:56:
DD, you are talking about Robert Vignola, true? I did not hear anything lately about the police investigation on his death.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:56:
Doodle shoot me a PM
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

robi666 says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:58:
Why a PM? Doodle, post infos here.

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 16:59:
DD: Psst ..did doodle do it? jjajaja
Love is a Verb

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:01:
robi, Do you believe any of this rant ? You living in Smrt know you can not screw several people over and still run a business.
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:03:
Catgirl , nope no emails from doodle , just a bunch from African scammers and people I know.
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

goin_south says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:06:
Raaay y Robi... Is it okay,  if I start using some of you guys 'shtufff',  to start a new COMIC BOOK SERIES??? jejjjej
Don't ..... Ask me about: El 'Nuevo' Dorado..

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:07:
I did send you a PM, waiting for your reply to send you an email.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:09:
LDW : here is the link about the Cali dude.  www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Apr01/0,4670,ColombiaAmericanKilled,00.html
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

robi666 says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:10:
DD, I don't, of course.

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:12:
10/4
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

doodle says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:13:
got it. I'll send in a moment. I need to find it. You can erase your email from the forum now. I wrote it down.

robi666 says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:14:
Again, why a PM?

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:20:
DD: BTW - the information in your article and that environment? That is the information that was given to me, or at least how Cali was explained to me.
Love is a Verb

tejasmarcos says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:23:
the word on the street is that the madman was talkin smack about pepea. pepea confronted the madman and tried to professionally address the issue. the madman was high on guaro and started calling pepea's fine ass novia a prepago. pepea did a judo legwhip and the madman went down hard. when the madman was getting up, pepea lit into him again with a knee to the sternum and before the madman could hit the ground, pepea cold cocked him one more time between the eyes. the madman didn't move a bit. 5 minutes later, the madman was hauled off by ambulance from parque lleras.  i tried to snap some fotos, but the blows were coming lightening fast....
although i live in a box, i don't think like it.......

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:25:
CatGirl : In Colombia it is ( calle justicia ) .  You can go and file a complaint at the Casa De Justicia and then have to serve them your self a ( boleta) and then hope they show up , but the most often used method here is ( calle justicia )
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

Monpirri says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:29:
Calle justicia? Do you mean like the sicarios movies and all that crap?
Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

LDW says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:30:
Dodger Dogs......  That guy was running a casino too. Looks to me like he probably owed money to the wrong people.  Which reminds me....I always give a little chuckle when I hear stories here from people who want to "retire" in Latin America and then, as they put it, run a little business. I know a Canadian guy who went to Panama with his Canadian wife and kids with exactly that idea. This was a guy who had always carried a lunch box to work for a wage job (nothing derogatory intended by that), and he couldn't even speak Spanish.  So....leave a country whose language you speak, but where you have never experienced the rigors of running your own business, and then expect to go to a country whose language and/or customs you don't know and expect to run a business???  Hmmmmm..................Something wrong with that picture.  Moral of the story........  Retirement there may be OK, but stay below the radar screen.

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:31:
Yes, and again - this is the city I was told was the one that was this way, not Medellin. I was told this is where most of the so called Mafia is....but what do I know
Love is a Verb

goin_south says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:32:
The Wild, Wild West. Carambita! jej  Where is GIB, when we need him???
Don't ..... Ask me about: El 'Nuevo' Dorado..

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:32:
DD: Who took over this guys business? Or is it gone?
Love is a Verb

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:34:
This happened to 2 people I knew , they sold fake prepaid calling cards.  From todays paper http://www.elpilon.com.co/ click on the (Justicial ) section and see how many murders occur here in this little town everyday.
Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.Will Rogers

CatGirl says on Monday March 17th, 2008 17:38:
The motorcycles...these people typically drive motorcycles? (Calle justice)
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be nice says the monkey!

By robi666 on Mar 18, 2008, 18:17 in Friendly Talkzone.

robi666 says on Mar 18, 2008, 18:17:

BUM

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

RAAAY says on Mar 18, 2008, 18:31:

Just as I thought earlier..............The powers that be probably deleated this post because of Doodle getting into it about Pepe........

Robi...........why don't you edit out all the irrellivent comments..................

Also.....it is very cumbersome to read with all the crap in it.

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:04:

It has just been brought to my attention that TeleAntioquia recently ran a news report to warm people about an increased level of tourists being taken for paseo millonario as of late, throughout Colombia.

The news report mentioned that young women are taking advantage of single male travelers with the aid of Scoplomine or Burundanga, and have been very inventive in their approach.

True?

Anyone else see this on TeleAntioquia?

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CatGirl says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:16:

Roci?

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CatGirl says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:19:

OK I will try again.....Is there anyone on this board that is physically in Colombia?

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CatGirl says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:25:

This is pathetic....Hello?

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paulr says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:48:

I´m here physically but not mentally, is that enough?

Life is like a ten-speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use.

Aaron21 says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:52:

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye mateeeee..........

robi666 says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:53:

M_T, RCN was talking about it tonight. In Bogota, four cases in the last two days if I remember well.
Foreigners are a favourite target.

robi666 says on Mar 18, 2008, 19:55:

Ray, you're right, but i do not have much time... one of the mods can take away what they do not like, anyway.
They can edit posts.

DodgerDogs says on Mar 18, 2008, 20:05:

This is what can happen at bars in Medellin.

En la comunicación les contó que había sido victima de Aguilas Negras que habían utilizado burundanga para dejarlo en estado de inconciencia y despojarlo de sus pertenencias con un rumbo incierto, terminando el desastroso viaje a disco bar Mangos.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

CatGirl says on Mar 18, 2008, 20:07:

I have a few questions

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CatGirl says on Mar 18, 2008, 20:39:

Ok - well...I get it.

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tejasmarcos says on Mar 18, 2008, 21:21:

MT - how did you catch that TeleAntioquia episode in Shy Town?

god is in your head

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 19, 2008, 03:17:

Medellin Traveler says, "It has just been brought to my attention...."

I was on the phone with Colombia, helloooooooo, when robi666 reloaded the thread.

Also, don't own a TV..... it's been over three years now.

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podborski says on Mar 19, 2008, 04:22:

wow you guys are sure making up for GIBs absence : )

RAAAY says on Mar 19, 2008, 07:37:

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Yep...........soon we'll be hearing about remote controlled explosive cell phones in taxis...

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 19, 2008, 20:15:

How 'bout this...

The "Paraca list" is being investigated in Antioquia by authorities...

A few days ago the "Paraca list" started to circulate on the internet.

The e-mails that have been circulating has information as well as the names of those involved in the new armed groups throughout the variois neighborhoods in Medellín.

Anyone get the email yet?

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robi666 says on Mar 19, 2008, 22:14:

MT, nuevos panfletos en el barrio Santa Lucia, ayer:
"Los ninos buenos se acostan a las 10, si no los acostamos nosotros... Aguilas Negras"

CatGirl says on Mar 20, 2008, 05:40:

Raay: "...soon we'll be hearing about remote controlled explosive cell phones in taxis...

LOL

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Robert Jorge says on Mar 20, 2008, 06:21:

And sharks with freaking lazers coming out of their eyes.

tejasmarcos says on Mar 20, 2008, 07:08:

and girls putting scopalamina on their nipples! oh wait, that has already happened....... nevermind.

god is in your head

manINred says on Mar 20, 2008, 11:34:

Great, more people taking it into their own hands to rid Medellin of its 'immoralities', like smoking weed and sex.

And I thought prostitution was legal in Colombia.

Medellin Traveler says on Mar 20, 2008, 18:20:

Desmovilizado abatido por ser cabecilla de banda criminal

Medellín, Marzo 20, (LA FM) Un nuevo golpe a la delincuencia común propinó la Policía Nacional en el suroeste antioqueño. En la Vereda la Esperanza, en la vía que de Bolombolo, conduce a Santa Fe de Antioquia, mediante operativo fue abatido alias “El Loco�? Francisco José Morales Valdez, de 47 años, cabecilla de una banda que delinque mediante extorsión, homicidio, hurto y otros delitos en esta zona del departamento.

Alias “El Loco�? era desmovilizado del Bloque Suroeste de las autodefensas, ex integrante de la banda delincuencial del capturado alias “René�? que pretendía conformar mediante alianzas delincuenciales con alias “Memín�? quien es cabecilla de las �?guilas Negras que delinquen en el occidente y norte de Antioquia, un brazo armado de dicha organización en el suroeste antioqueño.

En los hechos falleció el Subintendente Fredy Hernán Benavides Benavides, de 29 años de edad.
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BUENAS NOCHES!

Los viejos malos, acostados por............ la Policía Nacional de Antioquia

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