Does any one know if they are still making the movie with Javier Bardem and Christian Bale "Killing Pablo" they keep changing roles and release dates, supposed to be in 2009 and shot in colombia -YARI FILMS??
By mariacvetanoski on May 28, 2008, 04:21 in Friendly Talkzone.
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de pronto says on May 28, 2008, 06:06: is this going to be Hollywood style? ... y viaje a Macondo todo pagado 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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love2colombia says on May 28, 2008, 06:18: Los miembros de PBH están obsesionados por este hombre...
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Rikito says on May 28, 2008, 07:05: Oh great! Another movie sterotyping the Colombian wat of life. Yari films must have absolutely no imagination other than making murder, drug, rape movies. A real plus to a society that is trying just to survive each day. It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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de pronto says on May 28, 2008, 07:12: If I would like to know more about Pablo's life I would prefer a NatGeo documentary (I think its name is: Pablo Escobar's last days) over a hollywood style movie. ... y viaje a Macondo todo pagado 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 07:27: man, some people are thin-skinned. Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 07:29: What's so fascinating about it that hasn't been done before? Remember 'Scarface'? "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 07:30: "oh and btw - part of the appeal of the story is the polarization of opinion within colombia herself about the man..." "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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de pronto says on May 28, 2008, 07:34: Tal vez ideal para Hollywood pero en ese caso Hollywood no se caracteriza por apegarse a los hechos históricos. ... y viaje a Macondo todo pagado 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 07:39: deny it all you want, simon -your attempts to whitewash over any faults colombia has won't work in this case. just because they don't fit your idealized vision doesn't mean that escobar didn't have lots of colombian followers who were saddened by his death. Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 07:42: I'm not denying anything, I'm just saying that this story wouldn't bring anything new to Hollywood and that the Colombians who followed him are usually the riff raff of Colombian society. "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 07:59: in the first place, "new" is relative in hollywood. scarface was a remake. but nothing new? Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tomtom33 says on May 28, 2008, 08:02: Hollywood is interested in turning a profit. Anything new? No lo creo. Ocean's 24 anyone?
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romy says on May 28, 2008, 08:09: it did not polarize Colombia (am I agreeing with the the joker...)
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Rikito says on May 28, 2008, 08:38: slyguy, please enlighten me on how any details about the life of a murderous, drug dealing scumbag like Escobar is "it IS a fascinating story, damn near ideal" It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tomtom33 says on May 28, 2008, 08:42: How many movies have been made about Hitler and Al Capone? They sell and make money. Did we really need chainsaw murder horror films?
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 08:46: did i ever say he wasn't a POS? i'm only saying that his story is interesting - and ideally suited to hollywood. don't take my words out of context please, rikito. "ideal" and "ideal for hollywood" are two very diferent things, and you know it. Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mononoke28 says on May 28, 2008, 10:27: I've been a long time fan of Christian Bale and I truly think he chose this movie for a reason. The fact that Javier Bardem is attached to it is another great plus, although I'm not so sure about the director. Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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aztec says on May 28, 2008, 10:30: I don't care what the movie is about but if Javier Bardem is in it I will watch it!
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 10:32: "A whole bunch of Mexican actors speaking with Mexican accents shooting guns and claiming to be Colombians." Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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aztec says on May 28, 2008, 10:33: I don't care what the movie is about but if Javier Bardem is in it I will watch it! He can make Pablo Escobar look even more menacing.
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ColombianoGringo says on May 28, 2008, 10:34: Aztec, Have you seen any of his Spanish movies?
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 28, 2008, 10:36: I think some of you are missing the core element of "Killing Pablo". See, the scumbag gets KILLED. Heroic Colombians hunt him down, against daunting odds. It's a great true story that shows the story mostly from the side of really brave, idealistic Colombians fighting to regain control of their country from corruption and crime.
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de pronto says on May 28, 2008, 10:37: "true, but makes no difference. 95% of ameicans don't know the difference in accents, anyway" ... y viaje a Macondo todo pagado 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 10:39: "Heroic Colombians hunt him down, against daunting odds." "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 10:44: No, but I did see the History Channel's Documentary on it narrated by Mark Bowden himself and I clearly remember a Centra Spike guy talking about a legend among their circles that says that it was one of them who took out Pablo with a sniper shot to the head. I don't doubt Hollywood would love to go with that ending! "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mononoke28 says on May 28, 2008, 10:44: I was coming from an acting/producing point of view. The whole reason why Benicio Del Toro was so good in "Traffic" was because he totally understood the character and where he was coming from, he was 100% Mexican in that movie. Same thing with Javier Bardem in "Before Night Falls" where he was so believable as a Cuban. So I think he'll do his homework on this one and hopefully become a true Colombian, in this case a true paisa. Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 28, 2008, 10:48: BTW, since when were Colombians not caucasian?
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 10:48: you know, what you guys miss who get pissed off is... Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 10:51: "The whole reason why Benicio Del Toro was so good in "Traffic" was because he totally understood the character and where he was coming from, he was 100% Mexican in that movie." "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mononoke28 says on May 28, 2008, 10:53: But slguy, one thing is to read a book and get the point of the writer and another is to go see a movie based on it with money hungry producers and a director behind it trying to make more money. Sure, everybody knows that Escobar was the devil incarnate and that the police and everybody else involved had a right to catch him dead or alive. But why then cast Christian Bale as the supporting actor behind Bardem? He plays an American cop... who do you think will end up being the hero? Bale, of course. It's all about glorifying the American guy because American audiences will be the ones buying the movie tickets and they won't like it if it's any other way. They're making a product that sells. Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 10:56: "But why then cast Christian Bale as the supporting actor behind Bardem? He plays an American cop... who do you think will end up being the hero? Bale, of course. It's all about glorifying the American guy because American audiences will be the ones buying the movie tickets and they won't like it if it's any other way." "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on May 28, 2008, 10:56: Anyone know what Hugo Aguilar is doing these days? If I recall he was a hardworking, honest cop in the book (I think his father was too). He later was elected governor of Santander (in 2002 or 2003 I think). Does he still have a clean reputation?
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 10:56: simon, your life must be a living hell, always seeking out the negatives. why not stop trying to find the bogeyman in every corner? Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 10:58: It was Hugo Aguilar who actually shot and killed Escobar, that guys my hero! "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 11:00: "simon, your life must be a living hell, always seeking out the negatives. why not stop trying to find the bogeyman in every corner?" "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mononoke28 says on May 28, 2008, 11:02: Simon, I don't care what other people say about you, I still think you're aight (some times) =D Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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aztec says on May 28, 2008, 11:12: ColombianoGringo,
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ColombianoGringo says on May 28, 2008, 11:21: "Lunes al Sol" was the first movie I saw with him where I knew whom he was . I also liked "El Mar Adentro". A few others you might check out are "Entre las piernas" and "Carne Trémula".
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Simon says on May 28, 2008, 11:24: "Entre las piernas" "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 11:32: " He was so convincing that If he was not dating Penélope Cruz I would still believe he is homosexual." Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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aztec says on May 28, 2008, 11:48: slguy, you are right. Can't ever tell about those guys. Could be for publicity.
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ColombianoGringo says on May 28, 2008, 11:56: Simon,
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Medellin Traveler says on May 28, 2008, 12:21: I've said it before, Benecio Del Toro would be great as Pablo Escobar. "Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 12:24: absolutely correct, mt. he'd be great in the role. Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on May 28, 2008, 12:39: Joe Carnahan recently signed a two picture deal with the studios, one being Killing Pablo. I do not know which movie he will shoot first, but know that Joe Carnahan has the budget approved to shoot Killing Pablo in Medellin, Colombia, which he was very adamant about when approaching the studios. Good news! "Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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slguy says on May 28, 2008, 13:42: "Again, I've read the script and it's not specifically about Pablo Escobar, it's more of a cat-and-mouse chase, with those reponsible for Killing Pablo being the main focus of the movie." Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mononoke28 says on May 28, 2008, 13:48: Ojalá le hagan los crespos igualiticos para que se vea bien HP. Just my thoughts. =D Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on May 28, 2008, 15:13: simon...if i weren't mistaken (am i?) i'd think you were the reincarnation of my old pbh buddy, colombiano x....always defending, what more often than not, didn't warrant, nor need, defense. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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robi666 says on May 28, 2008, 15:28: Killing Pablo, the book, is quite boring for large parts, for the ones who are not into technical military details. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 28, 2008, 15:49: I know what you mean, Robi, a bit too much fascination with the technology and stuff. Blackhawk Down, also by Bowden, suffers a bit from the same disease but is also a great story.
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Medellin Traveler says on May 28, 2008, 17:20: Mr Hollywood, "Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Rikito says on May 29, 2008, 08:55: I still think that many of you are missing an important point. I am sure the 'Pablo" movie will be well done, well received, and make a lot of money. I will also accept that it may be a great theatrical study of characters. Let’s also say that it is deserving of an academy award or two or three. BUT, this is not the point. There are many other subjects that are more deserving of Colombia films than the usual murder, drug, rape, kidnapping, etc. that most Colombia movies show. There is no imagination or creativity to this. It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on May 29, 2008, 09:12: I disagree that it will be a slam dunk money maker. Look at "Love In the Time of Cholera" - some big names in it, behind it, good sets, famous author, etc and it was a commercial bomb. On a related note, the Colombian film industry is just as guilty as Hollywood in perpetuating the negative stereotypes of Colombia. Or look to the Mexican film industry - it seems like a majority of their films are about violence, corruption, drugs and accordions.
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Simon says on May 29, 2008, 09:16: 'Love In the Time of Cholera' was a pretty big hit in Colombia. "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on May 29, 2008, 09:19: Simon,
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Mononoke28 says on May 29, 2008, 09:28: But then again, Javier Bardem, Benjamin Bratt, and little known Italian actress as Colombians??? They took a Colombian, romantic story and turned it into an Sunday Night ABC special. Leave it to Hollywood to kill a classic. Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 29, 2008, 09:32: Rikito, that was a great post! Saludes. "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 29, 2008, 09:33: Rikito, your critique of the movie business is nothing new or specific to Colombia. Nobody is ever going to make that same movie about a single mom in Encino struggling to become the Attorney General of California, either. They don't call it the movie "business" for nothing. Ultimately, it's about making money.
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slguy says on May 29, 2008, 10:23: rikito, as hollywood said...no one has an obligation to whitewash colombia's image, or hide her bad qualities from extraneros - except for our very own Don Quixote de Simon. Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on May 29, 2008, 10:25: Hollywood trash? So lets make an Indie movie about Pablo.
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 29, 2008, 10:25: Try convincing studio heads or financiers of that.
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Medellin Traveler says on May 29, 2008, 10:30: rikito says, "But, opportunists like the guy making this movie do not have enough imagination (or balls) to do anything else." "Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Rikito says on May 29, 2008, 10:59: " Blood, Guts, Bullets and Octane, Narc and Smokin' Aces" Crap begetting crap! WOW ! now there is an artistc movie title that wants to make you socially aware. I just have to take my kids to see this thriller. It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on May 29, 2008, 11:57: Come on.... get real. "Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Simon says on May 29, 2008, 12:00: Boycott Killing Pablo!!! "Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mr. Hollywood says on May 29, 2008, 12:08: Erin Brockovich, if you really think about it, was about Julia Robert's cleavage (which was itself a bit of movie industry wizardry.)
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Mononoke28 says on May 29, 2008, 12:59: Well, you can't really compare Erin Brockovich with the lady who is now working as the Attorney General for the Department of QuindÃo. Mainly because Erin Brockovich didn't have an education and still helped her firm win multimillion dollar cases. Diana 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on May 29, 2008, 15:34: I'm making a film about PBH characters. "Slackers" was critically acclaimed a few years ago and what are we if not slackers? Ha-ha.
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Rikito says on May 29, 2008, 17:04: geeze...why such superficial comments? It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on May 29, 2008, 18:10: let me throw my hat in that ring, tinto, i'm living proof that i can slack with the best of em. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte says on May 29, 2008, 21:15: Rikito, I think you should write a screen play about the real Colombia. Howzabout "One man's struggle to renew his cedula against all odds"? La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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MitchAlvarez says on May 30, 2008, 10:49: ok so lets figure out who would play who? "Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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danielojos says on Jul 12, 2008, 12:01: Are you kidding me?!!! Smokin' Aces IS ABSOLUTE CRAP that had some of the worst reviews in hollywood over the last few years......read the reviews of action fans on imdb from all over the world that said it was TERRIBLE and the ending was one of the worst ever!! even some of the stars of that film say they regretted being in it!!.....this guy IS a hack director who is only going to make this film for his own "look at me---I'm a tough guy" ego....read some of his blogs and you will see this.....he will not care one bit about how it protrays the country or its citizens....what a joke!!
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