Just for a laugh nothing personal CHE

elmodefoque says on Oct 7, 2004, 05:20:

oye! eso estaba bien bacana pero falto los cubanos de miami.
un cubano, un habla mierda
dos cubanos, dos habla mierda
tres cubanos, una pila de mierda

I'll get there, when I get there!

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MJ says on Oct 7, 2004, 06:15:

LMAO LOL That is a good one (my respect to the cubans of course)

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toneloc24 says on Oct 7, 2004, 09:08:

Pretty funny!!! Tres gringos..... LOL!

I've heard different points of about this, in different countries, nonetheless. I saw a bit of it in the movie "The Motorcycle Diaries." This joke reminds me of it.

My question: why does everybody, including Colombians, hate the Argentines? What the hell did they do to piss so many countries off?

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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elmodefoque says on Oct 7, 2004, 09:22:

Tone, if I weren’t too damn busy at work right now, I’ll tell you. And I guarantee that after I’m finish you'll dislike them too.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Miguel says on Oct 7, 2004, 10:52:

Not all Colombians hate Argentines Just got back from BAQ and my girlfriend's brother has his entire room painted in the colors of Argentina, and an Argentian flag hanging on his wall.

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mad_lion says on Oct 7, 2004, 12:42:

here's the common view of Argentinians I have travelled to Argentina, I live in a section where there are many Argentinians back in the US. and I have travelled to several latin countries where they joke and dislike people form Argentina. Mainly because the Argentinians belive that since they hold dual nationality to Italians, Germans and Spaniards that they are "upper class latinos w/ European roots" - for a very long time Argentina was a very a rich country - their local currency, the Argentinian peso, was equal 1:1 to the good 'ole USD. The economy was booming and lots of rich people live in Argentina - so they compare themselves to having an equal way of life as the USA and Europe.

Not to mention the fact, that prior to 2001, Argentinians did not require a Visa to enter the US, and can come and go at free will so long as they had a valid passport.

Add all of this up and what do you get? "We are better than you" attitude. Other latin countries do not have the same lifestyle or roots and can only dream of coming migrating to Europe and USA or having the economy that Argentina once had.


Actually, it is very common to hear an Argentinian say that they are not spanish, rather European.

that attitude just pisses every one else off. Not too mention that soccer play a big role in society, and Argentina has had teh most controversial super star of all time "Diego Maradonna" playing for them - Maradonna makes Dennis Rodman look like a church boy.

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elmodefoque says on Oct 7, 2004, 12:57:

To me, Argentineans are descendents from dirt poor Italians, as poor as I was, that came in barcos (freight ships) and landed in my South American continent from Europe with dirty faces and a bundle of clothing rapped around a stick. They could claim to be European all they want, who the hell wants to be from Europe anyway.
They claimed to be so macho and gaucho all that crap that the British traveled 500 thousand miles to kick their ass and made them cried like babies. Female FARC guerrillas could easily kick their ass. After they got their ass kicked, the only Latin country that gave them loans was Colombia and in kind they refuse to play some damn soccer event held in Colombia, I don’t know which but they claim to be concerned for their safely.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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fearless7 says on Oct 8, 2004, 16:25:

Ha ha Funy joke. I've passed it along to friends and family. if you or anybody have anymore jokes, please pass it along. thanks.

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Dolfi says on Oct 9, 2004, 12:53:

Can´t complain I spent three days in Buenos Aires and found argentinians to be nice people. In fact it felt more ltaly to me than Latinamérica.

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isaactraveler says on Oct 9, 2004, 13:15:

funny! heheh. funny joke. But why argentinians? my understanding is that for all the differences the colombian people might have, they are all united in the fact that they hate PERUANOS jajajaja

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daver says on Oct 9, 2004, 17:02:

***To me, Argentineans are descendents from dirt poor Italians, as poor as I was, that came in barcos (freight ships) and landed in my South American continent from Europe with dirty faces and a bundle of clothing rapped around a stick. They could claim to be European all they want, who the hell wants to be from Europe anyway.****

Elmo, next time you look at a map, you will find that Italy is in Europe. So is Spain.

My family came to Canada, poor English fisherman, and unemployed Scottish... I don't know if their faces were dirty, but I do know they could have packed their belongings in a bag around a stick...but, they chose to wear them instead... and they are damn proud of their heritage, just like Colombians are of theirs.

Also, the Argentinian's, AT LEAST tried to fight for what they believed in against a large power, while many South American countries simply bow down to the USA. No offence, but the UK could defeat any country in Latin America should they choose to... the difference is, not every country would have put up a fight. Remember also, the Argentinians came very close to sending the British home. Several large British ships were sunk, and many more would have if all the bombs from the Mirage's were not fused by incompitent people (up to 1/3 of the British ships would have been sunk if all the bombs that scored a direct hit had detonated). I think the Argentinian pilots who flew 600 mph, 20 feet off the ocean surface, into an armada of highly armed British warships, did much to show that South Americans do not like to be pushed around by great powers.

Ok, a little harshly worded, but I feel better now ;-)

Dave

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vladimiro says on Oct 10, 2004, 01:21:

Argentines It was ironic when a Colombian friend told me that Argentines are creidos (arrogant) and then said that Peruanos are tontos, too Indian, speak horrible spanish, and of all countries, lowly Peru had the gall to require a visa for Colombians :)

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juanalejo says on Oct 11, 2004, 15:44:

Argentinians Well, the richness of Argentina did not proceed from the last few years, they were one of the richest nations in world beginning of the XX century, and were known as the "despensa del mundo" as they produced more food per capita than any nation in the world. They are a highly educated society, and I personally find them very nice to talk to. I think it happens the same as with the Americans which are generalized as being hated world wide, but you tend to have a very nice conversation once you meet them. The history of Argentina and specifically Buenos Aires has traditionally had more to do with Europe than the rest of Latin America to which they have had to link themselves because of geography in the later part of the XX century. The 1 peso to 1 USD had nothing to do with being a rich country as by the year 2000 Argentina has cut at least 12 "0`s" of their currency with a few name changes in between, and that parity was done trying to control inflation. Something done also by Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Bolivia among others. I think Argentinians have begun to identify themselves much more as Latinamericans in the later years and they have realized this is where there future lies.

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elmodefoque says on Oct 11, 2004, 18:21:

I don’t’ have anything against Peruanos but admiration, as a matter of fact; I fill closer to them than any other South American. Argentinos could be all the Europeans they want, but the way I see it, while Europeans were still living in caves and later dying in their own filth with the plague, the Incas and Chibchas were rich prosperous people. We all know that soon stopped when the filthy, thieving Spaniards and their European diseases nearly whipped us out!
I still consider Argentineans worst than Colombian snobs and that takes a lot. They got caught up thinking that they were actually a rich country and took on a real powerful nation like the UK and all they needed to kick their ass was a couple of weeks and a couple of battle ships. No need to use even a fraction of their might. Anyway, since when are Italians famous for their armies. The Italians have a history of surrendering to every Tom, Dick and Harry that stepped on their land, and Argentineans carry that blood proudly.
For over 30 years Cololombias have taken on the most powerful country (USA) in the planet. They have outsmarted America’s modern technologies, with their army, navy and marines and continue to satisfy the American demand for drugs. The USA has failed to destroy a bunch of poor, third world, unsophisticated, uneducated, un-European, mestizo Colombian criminals. With every 100 tons that get seized, 500 hit the streets of USA. No Argentineans and no one else (ok, maybe the Mexicans) have the balls to get into this extremely dangerous business, they just don’t have the right stuff. In this business you got to be ready to die or do serious long, long, hard time, from a mere 3 years to a 20 plus prison sentence in a foreign land away from your love ones. Many Colombians take this chance 24/7. Who’s got the balls to take a chance like that, not Argentineans, that’s for sure..
One final thing about Argentinos, unlike Colombians who have been killing each other for over 30 years to makes changes and stop injustice, Argentinos did nothing while a couple of tin can Generals controlled them like sheep. The only ones that raised their voices were old women crying for the thousands that disappeared, where was that Italian machismo a gauchismo. They never had the cojones (balls) to stand up and fight like Colombians continued to do, including Indian women.
I will say no more about this subject, I believe they are not worthy of my valuable time. All I have left to say is that Argentina could stick their European pride up their culo!!
Me despido, and next time I’ll tell you what I really think about Argentina and Miami Cubans.
One positive thing about Argentina.
Is so weird that the two people I admire most are from Argentina and Cuba. Ernesto “Che” Guevara, from Argentina, isn’t that bitch, he should be from Colombia, Peru, Mexico. I’m just happy he’s last name was not Andretti, Benbuchinni, Giamasii.
The other person is Juan Gonzales from Cuba. Who the hell is Juan Gonzales? He’s Elian Gonzalez’s father, the same guy that was offered millions of dollars by the Cuban American mafia to stay with his kid in Miami. Not only did he turned them down but gave them the middle finger and return to his waiter job in Havana. That takes balls, a lotta balls and conviction, something I lack. I wish I had just a tiny bit of his pride. He new that if Elian was to stay in Miami most likely he would be smoking dope, become a 100 dollar sneaker wearing brat, and dropping outta school by now.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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isaactraveler says on Oct 12, 2004, 08:30:

Ok elmo so you are saying Argentina is not as good as Colombia for not selling drugs.
Argentina is not as good as Colombia for not killing each other?
Italians fold faster than a Dollar?
and Elian Gonzales is NOT a $100 sneakerwearing, dope smoking, non-school attending brat?

just fact checking for my book.

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isaactraveler says on Oct 12, 2004, 08:31:

Oh.. Something I heard with regard to Argeninians: How does an Argentinina commit suicide?
He jumps off his ego.

ok maybe it sounded better in espanol.

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elmodefoque says on Oct 12, 2004, 08:45:

Yeap! Isaac, I like that on Yeap!
Isaac, I like that one "Italians fold faster than a dollar" can I use it sometime?
You gotta have the right stuff. Americans have the right stuff, they came here, slaughter the crap outta the Indians, luckily I was further south or they would have killed my ass too. They continue kicking everybody ass that don’t agree with them, for that I got to bow to them, and for that they rule the world but are having a hell of a hard time with some low life, Colombians.
Hey dude how about more pics of those broads you posted before.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Oct 12, 2004, 09:13:

I completely understand Americans, British, Guajiros, some Colombians, and maybe the French having huge ego, but, Argentinos, please!
What is their claim to fame? That they could kick a freaking leather ball between two poles. That’s the only time they’re ever mentioned, otherwise them and the Uruguayans don’t exist.
Damn, I making many enemies, but that’s the story of my life. That’s why I’m call el-modefoque, but is all in good healthy fun.
Let’s see, who else can I go after??

I'll get there, when I get there!

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litost says on Oct 12, 2004, 11:33:

You talk so much mierda, but you do it very articulately, I will give you that... have you ever thought about broadcasting, I think you could give Howard Stern a run for his money!

Or maybe a show "Laura en America" style???

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caslug says on Oct 12, 2004, 12:00:

Great Idea!!! Elmo Colombia's New Radio Personality That would have a major impact on the Colombian Radio market. Imagine if he becomes the voice of the disenfrancise ranting against the social injustice, and upper class colombians. BUT of course, by talking about his love of booty(both human and donkey variety), he would win the hearts and minds(hormones) of millions of horny colombian men, regardless of social class. As long as he doesn't rant against gov't, FARC, drug lords, or try to make major social change, he'll be quite safe. I hope he does he show both in Spanish AND English(for us foreingers). ;-)

Does colombia radio have a shock jock like howard stern?

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elmodefoque says on Oct 12, 2004, 12:21:

You just mentioned one of my all time heroes; Howard Stern and I also need to add the late Rodney Dangerfield.
Man, a week ago Howard had a 10,000 dollar contest to see who had the biggest hemorrhoids, I still can't stop laughing. Contestants actually bend over, spread their cheeks and expose their hemorrhoids for all to see, with a doctor and a gay guy as judges. Even Howard had to stop taping and walk away from disgust.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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cali_fornia says on Oct 12, 2004, 13:26:

Love / Hate Relationship I didn't think I would find a discussion on Argentinos in this forum so I was attracted to all the perspectives exposed. I have a very personal experience with Argentinos given that I was married to one for four years. I'm Colombian-American having grown-up and lived mostly in NYC and Miami where there are lots of Colombians and Argentinians. I never thought I would marry una Argentina given the big differences that exist between us. And I wasn't wrong for never thinking the unthinkable. In sinthesis, the experience was: 85% bad (very bad); 10% ok and only 5% good.

I hardly recommend any non-Argentinian/Uruguayan Hispanic marrying one. The compatibility in so many arenas is so opposing that this in itself would generate the worst imaginable friction. I saw the same happen with other couples in a similar situation. It's probably the reason why they, exclusively, tend to marry and/or mix-in with white Anglo-Americans and/or Europeans.

My ex is from Buenos Aires and the reason I mention this is because they tend to have the worst reputation for being snobbish, rude and outright nasty. Even people from other cities in Argentina agree with the rest of Hispanic America in saying that they (the Porteños) are the worst. I kid you not. People from Cordoba are also much to be warry of and careful about.

While every country has good and bad things, Colombia being no exception, and having mentioned some "not-so-nice" things about the Gauchos - I'll mention the things that attract me the most (thus my love/hate relationship):

The Yerba Mate (which I drink), soccer, music, food, literature, movies, leather, good taste for fashion and design, wine and the like. The wide ranging landscapes (except for tropical beaches) and natural settings which include: Las Cataratas de Iguazu, Bariloche, La Patagonia, Las Pampas, La Tierra de Fuego, La Antardida Argentina, La region Andina and the like. The fact that Colombian soccer players have played and continue to play at their top teams. And the fact that it is one of the cheapest destinations to travel to; cheaper than Colombia who unfortunately remains very high-priced.

Separating the wheat from the chafe (or the other way around), I think that if one can go there and hopefully travel outside of Buenos Aires, around the country, I have no doubt there are many beautiful people that can be met who would probably even agree with what most of us Hispanics have to say and think. My experience has been that they have to thank the folks from Buenos Aires and the Argentinos living abroad for making a bad name for the majority. My experience was no exception. phhhhhhheeeewwwwwww I feel better now!!

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