Juice

kernow62 says on Sep 23, 2005, 20:30:

aguardiente

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DoninLasVegas says on Sep 23, 2005, 20:47:

Fruit

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Michael_B says on Sep 23, 2005, 21:30:

Yes, It is called Lulo

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kernow62 says on Sep 23, 2005, 21:45:

Aguardiente and lulo, what a combination.

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Monpirri says on Sep 23, 2005, 23:54:

Exotic and Tropical Fruit Juices in Colombia It depends where do you go in Colombia, the season and the mood of the person who makes the juice.

Piña, curuba, lulo, guanábana, maracuyá, mora, fresa, mango, mandarina, guanábana, naranja, mango, mora...

I just made papaya juice with milk, juice was really gooooood!

Monpirri

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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Brandy says on Sep 24, 2005, 12:20:

Papaya.. Papaya! i think that was the juice that i was looking for. can it come in a mandaraine flavor? does anyone have a good recipe to make it?

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kernow62 says on Sep 24, 2005, 12:58:

Mandarina is another type of juice (tangerine).

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Caballista says on Sep 24, 2005, 13:16:

Tangerine is not a MANDARINA!!!! confunda, pero no ofenda por favor!!!! jajaja
Recipe for JUGO DE MANDARINA: put in the blender Water and sugar and then add the MANDARINAS with peel if you want or w/o it. Blended it for about 5 seconds and enjoy it. The secret it's to put the sugar in the water, before the Mandarina, and to stop the blender before it gets bitter. Same recipe for Orange, and Limón.

Other graet juice it's GUAYABA AGRIA, from PEREIRA, soooooo goooooodddddd!!!!!

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kernow62 says on Sep 24, 2005, 18:54:

OK, my mistake, I was reading from the bag of frozen mandarina pulp from Colombia and they translated it into English as tangerine.

So it is really what we would call a clementine in the UK I suppose, at least according to this site.

http://frutas.consumer.es/documentos/frescas/mandarina/intro.php

However it is a hell of a lot closer to a tangerine than to a papya! ;-)

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Sam Salmon says on Sep 24, 2005, 19:53:

Maracuyá! Maracuyá! Maracuyá Maracuyá when fresh is unparalleled flavour of distinction and pleasure.
Mandarina as well is versatile and pleasing.
Mora-Blackberry-is fabulous if you can find it fresh.








' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 03:03:

Why they keep saying Mora is the same of BLACKBERRY, Mora IS not blackberry AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 03:03:

My favourite juice is Nispero. Put Nispero in the blender, milk, sugar and lots of Ice,and Voile you are in heaven ;-)

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quindioman says on Sep 25, 2005, 03:08:

me estas confundiendo mas kat./......tenia la impresion que mora = blackberry y frambuesa = raspberry.
Yo pensaba que la mora = raspberry pero alguien aqui en PBH me corrigio y dijo que la mora = blackberry................toy confundido :(

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 03:55:

no, kat? what's mora then?

Cheers,
Desi

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 04:29:

Mora/blackberry hybrids " Some of the most important commercially grown brambles are actually blackberry - red raspberry hybrids. Examples include ‘Boysenberry', ‘Loganberry', and ‘Youngberry'. The fruit flavor is unique, but culture and management is more like blackberry than raspberry. Major Rubus hybrids include:

Loganberry - R. vitifolius x R. ursinus? A Blackberry-raspberry hybrid, more like a blackberry. Large, reddish-purple fruit, low yield, vigorous growth. Produced by Judge J.H. Logan of Santa Cruz, California in 1880. Probably 'Texas Early' blackberry x 'Red Antwerp' red raspberry, as these were two of the three Rubus planted in his yard that year.


Youngberry - ‘Phenomenal berry' x ‘Austin Mayes' dewberry. Sweeter than loganberry but cold sensitive.



Phenomenal berry - This is a 2nd generation cross between blackberry and raspberry, by Luther Burbank in 1905; also called ‘Burbank's Logan'.



Boysenberry - Loganberry x dewberry ? Discovered by Ralf Boysen in California in 1920. Preferred over Young- and Loganberries; larger, earlier, more acid taste.



Nessberry - dewberry x red raspberry



Olallieberry - Black Logan x Youngberry



Tayberry - 'Aurora' blackberry x unnamed tetraploid raspberry selected at Hort Research Institute in Scotland. Longer, 50% larger, less downy and brighter appearance than loganberry."
http://www.uga.edu/fruit/rubus.htm

Cheers,
Desi

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kernow62 says on Sep 25, 2005, 04:30:

My understanding is that the mora is a variety of blackberry but traditionally used when not as ripe as people in the UK or US typically use them, a bit of redness still in the berry.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 04:47:

mora (rubus glaucus); blackberry is a generic name Digging in a mountain of black berries...

"Rubus glaucus is commonly sold in the Andean countries of South America. This crop is typically grown in small, up to 0.5 ha plantings for local sale. Large bottles (2 L) of mora carbonated soda were available in grocery stores suggesting larger scale commercial production is viable. A large fruit processor seriously considered commercial production of this crop in the US in the 1970s but pulled out just before the plantings were to be established. This crop may be similar to the 'Marion' blackberry, which is renowned for its flavor and aroma and excellent processing characteristics. However, as with 'Marion', R. glaucus fruit are too perishable for the fresh market. This crop appears to be a developed "land-race;" cultivars have not been developed but the species has commercial qualities. Plants require irrigation on their native volcanic soils and are often trellised (Gaitoni ~1970; Federación Nacional de Cafeteros de Columbia ~1984 [The exact date of these publications is unknown but they are available upon request]). Because the species is native to high elevation near the equator (little change in photoperiod and moderate temperatures year round), widely adapted types must be developed if this crop were to be more widely planted. Commercial production has been reported in Mexico and Central and South America (Gaitoni ~1970; Federación Nacional de Cafeteros de Columbia ~1984; Rincon 1987)."

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 04:54:

We discuss this before, Mora it's the same family of the berries, but blackberries when they are not ripe are red, very small and sour, when they are ripe they turn black or dark blueish color and it's very sweet. Mora when is not ripe is green and turns red when is ripe and it's much bigger than a blackberry. the taste is different even if you make it as a juice. And rasberry is more like frambuesa, rasberry is not as juicy as mora and it's a bit dry.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 04:55:

yes, kat is basically right they are not the same. Mora de castilla or just mora for short is native to the Andes. It's closely related to other hundred subspecies of rubus family and is sometimes translated either blackberry or Andean raspberry.

I wouldn't bother to translate it any longer, mora is mora.
Jugo de mora doesn't taste like blackberry juice. We have blackberries in Sweden too, cal them björnbär (Bear berries) and they are not moras.

I think I'm gonna make some björnbär juice now...

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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lockheed says on Sep 25, 2005, 05:02:

juicing up I think Maracuya is awsome, where I live they call it Parchita,
Lulo is also popular, I have a Mispero tree in my backyard.
I would like to try a jugo de chontaduro.
You guys know what blew my mind and taste buds JUGO DE TOMATE DE ARBOL. awsome.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 05:03:

a nice pic http://www.proexant.org.ec/HT_Mora.html

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 05:06:

and then this one too... http://www.angelfire.com/ia2/ingenieriaagricola/mora.htm

Me estoy poniendo morada de ver tantas moras...
Chao,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 06:35:

Good work Kat on clearing up the whole mora misunderstanding. Only 6,486,973,137 to go.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 06:57:

thanks a lot utopia cowboy I did the work, she got the credit, fine with me.
Desi

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 08:40:

Lo siento, Desi. I guess Kat was the project manager and you did the work on the project so of course she gets all the credit!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 10:16:

wrong again, utopia cowboy She protested, I started the project to find out the truth about mora, she rendered an empirical piece of information, I researched and presented the results of my reseach and didn't get any credit for my work. You're quite a piece of work, utopia cowboy. I am very disaapointed.

Cheers,
Desi
(I don't work for anybody else. I'm the project manager for all my projects.)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 10:21:

Geez, you made me go digging through the entire thread again to see exactly who said what and in what order. OK, Kat, no credit for you! Next!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 10:25:

what an attitude! of course kat deserves part of the credit. He testimonial about the color and consistence of the native Colombian mora was very important towards the conclusion of my thesis that mora doesn't have a translation.
Yes, it's good to read first before giving your opinion on something somebody else had said. The first step towards a meaningful excahange of messages.
Cheers,
Desi

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 25, 2005, 10:27:

Where did that disclaimer go?

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 10:41:

If this were a school project I think Kat deserves a smiley face or a gold star on her homework. Desi deserves the same PLUS extra credit. And our Mary Jane-smoking, teenage lesbian friend, UtopiaCowboy, deserves another afternoon in detention. ;-)

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oldbongo says on Sep 25, 2005, 11:16:

all are correcto... but you don't know avodado juice

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oldbongo says on Sep 25, 2005, 11:19:

sorry.. thats jugo de aguacate..smooth

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 11:36:

thank you teach tinto! Your arbitration in this bothersome incident is both fair and equally rewarding. Utopia got his dunce cap on and had to recur to his old, used-up disclaimer that doesn't excuse him any longer.

Cheers,
Desi
(and old gringo is happy as a lark consuming his favorite Colombian produce...the avocado juice. Everything's back to normal. Good.)

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adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Sep 25, 2005, 12:56:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 13:21:

adri, I believe it's morphed. It's not very usual and yet there are always a few Björn around. Parents probably think it's a kind cute and cuddly call a baby boy Björn. Teddybear (Nalle) used to be very popular as a male nickname some years ago. Of course, all these ancient animal names developed in the iron-age shamanistic society. Parents named their boys Bear because they hoped he'd grow up to be a strong and courageous just like his totem animal.

Some of this kind of thinking may still linger in the subconscience when choosing a name for a baby.

Cheers,
Desi

(Blackberry is still the closest translation for mora, but it is not the same subspecies)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Sep 25, 2005, 13:41:

Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 25, 2005, 19:53:

Mora FWIW, I just bought a jar of Alpina brand "mermelada de mora/blackberry jam." It was made in Colombia but the label is bilingual, presumably for the export market. In the Spanish section the ingredients are "fruta mora, azucar, agua, etc." In the English section they are "blackberries, sugar, water, ect."



It would appear that our diligent researchers were correct -- blackberry is kind of an umbrella term.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 26, 2005, 00:23:

I'm very happy that Desi did the research, WWe have this conversation before about Moras and Blackberries, and was saying that it wasn't the same, I was thinking to tell Kernow to put a pict of a Mora and one of a Blackberry so people could see the differents. but Desi did it. thanks Desi problem sorted!! My credits to her.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 26, 2005, 03:22:

I recently bought some moras imported from Spain and they were more alike our blackberries than Colombian moras so I knew that you were right; "blackberries" are a large family with lots of different varieties, but the generic is often used to translate the name. I had to dig into it to satisfy my own curiosity; I wasn't expecting any credits at all. It was just cowboy's flippant comment that ticked me off. (I'm sending you back half of the credits, dear. If we ever meet, it'll be Spanish grapes and Colombian moras side by side:)

Cheers,
Desi

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 26, 2005, 04:12:

Thsank Desi, and I hope for t Thank Desi, and I hope for the future everybody knows now that Mora is
Mora jeje.
And UC? he is always "mocking around" ;-P

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 26, 2005, 09:20:

Very touchy group here at PBH. Always ready for a fight. Gotta love it.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 26, 2005, 09:50:

no problemo UC

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