wtf, JUANES??????JUANES????

elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 04:51:

thank you and goodnite

I'll get there, when I get there!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 31, 2008, 04:58:

good nite? anyway i do agree. juanes who?

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johnny2008 says on Aug 31, 2008, 05:14:

Obviously the correct answer is Carlos Valderama, then Shakira. Note the Mexican guy was also wrong and should have said Julieta Venegas.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 05:40:

roci and morph,
you guys gonna be at that brazilian festival on 46st, manhattan, today?

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 05:50:

the broad from dominican republic chose Johnny Ventura, wrong!!
i was gonna go with Alex Rodriguez, then i remember that modefoque was born in NYC
Oscar de la Renta for them
Puerto Ricans went with J-LO , agree

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 31, 2008, 07:05:

Juanes is an excellent choice.
Juan Pablo Montoya would've been another.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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rocinante says on Aug 31, 2008, 07:13:

Elmo I'm not in NYC but Rubio would love to go if you can get him to the neighborhood. Your first mistake was watching TV and playing with your balls at the same time. I would have voted for the J. Mario and the Muy Buenos Días. Or maybe just Natalia Paris or Sophia Vergara.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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Robert Jorge says on Aug 31, 2008, 08:20:

No mention of Octavio Mesa ... unbelievable.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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webmanco says on Aug 31, 2008, 08:26:

Ballet de Colombia

El Indio Romulo

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 31, 2008, 08:44:

Ingrid Betancourt...how could I forget!

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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La_Huella says on Aug 31, 2008, 09:25:

Why not Pablo? To be brutally honest, he probably is still the most widely known Colombian to those outside the country.

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manINred says on Aug 31, 2008, 09:29:

" to name one person that best represents their country, most talented, loved, admired and respected etc. "

Well, the answer is obvious...

URIBE :)

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sloopskipper says on Aug 31, 2008, 10:19:

I loved Julieta Venegas when she appeared here. I made this little video at the convention center across the street from my house.

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Simon says on Aug 31, 2008, 10:33:

"Why not Pablo? To be brutally honest, he probably is still the most widely known Colombian to those outside the country."

He may be the best known to a drug user like you, but most people outside the country would probably say Shakira or Ingrid Betancourt!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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Simon says on Aug 31, 2008, 10:40:

Modefoque,

Just what the fok is your problem with anyone who is not from 'la Costa'? What, do you think Colombia is some fokin island to be constantly bitching and complaining about how it should just be 'all costa'?

And I think Juanes is a wonderful choice, he is a truly successful, decent and patriotic Colombian superstar! You don't see him dating Argentines and living in the Bahamas only to drop by Colombia just when he needs to promote a new album!

I, of course, would have chosen Uribe, he is the ULTIMATE COLOMBIAN!!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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johnny2008 says on Aug 31, 2008, 11:29:

Simon, I am not sure Ingrid Betancourt is somebody that you want representing your country, especially on this side of the atlantic.

So far as we see it, self indulgent woman goes electioneering in a place where she was warned no to go to. Same women gets kidnapped after being warned that she would get kidnapped. (Admiro las guerillas que cumplen su palabra)

Then in what is seemingly an act of political gesturing, she is rescued. Hooray Sarkozy and Uribe.

This woman loves Colombia so much that the first thing she did when she was released was... Err... board a plane and head straight for France for a cosy dinner with Mr and Mrs Sarkozy, the fragrant Carla Bruni.

Has she been back to Colombia since? I am guessing not because she keeps cropping up on the BBC news, in fact if she shows up once more I am throwing my TV out of the window.

Has she not also stated that she is thinking of running for presidency again? I don't suppose she is going to do that from France, so you may well get her back at some point in the future. But correct me if I am wrong, but did she not poll less than 1% of the vote last time? Seems she has delusions of popularity or maybe her "tragic plight" has bolstered that.

Not being an expert on Colombian politics so I speak very much as an outsider, but dare I say, in a country where people hunt for their lunch in a rubbish bin behind the avianca building, there are probably worthier causes to throw cash at than rescuing someone that wilfully and knowingly got themselves into trouble whilst promoting themself? Think on that.

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La_Huella says on Aug 31, 2008, 11:44:

Shakira perhaps, I don't think the average non-Colombian has any idea who Ingrid is. And the average English speaker won't know who Juanes is. The average English speaker would ONLY know Shakira and Paul Broome :)

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Simon says on Aug 31, 2008, 12:33:

I could give a fok what the "average English-Speaker" thinks!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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Azul says on Aug 31, 2008, 13:12:

I have a question about this debate...was the original question who best represents their country in the eyes of the rest of the world or the most popular and beloved within each individual country?

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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La_Huella says on Aug 31, 2008, 14:56:

Picking any *one person to represent Colombia means that you will be leaving at least 75% of the country out in the cold.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 15:51:

betancourt is your typica india colombiana that found a foreign guy to give her any self worth and adios colombia.
I;m not a big fan of shakira but let's be honest here, NO other colombian even comes close as she does when it comes to giving colombia a good name.
Hey modefoque, you fokin old bitter amargao malpario, why don't you like shakira?
porque le abre las pata a manes que no son colombiano, that's why.
my vote for most admired colombiano is GABO.
if the most important, smartest gringo to ever walk this planet says he's brilliiant and his hero, then that's it, no need to continue
modefoque, and who is the smartest gringo to ever walk this planet? bill fokin clinton, that's who.
thank you!!

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 16:30:

Just got back from the Brazilian street festival in Manhattan. There had to be more than half a million modefoques salivating over all them Brazilian girls’ ass, including me.
As a Colombian and 100% costeno I could not give a rat’s ass between Brazil and Argentina that’s why I think I’m perfect for deciding the long going dispute between these two modefoques as to who is best.
The good thing about living in the most diverse city in the planet, I get to enjoy modefoques from every corner of the planet.
Let me tell you something, when it comes to choosing best country with most beautiful fun people etc. Brazil wins hands down.
Many here talk about beautiful Colombian women and chit, I don’t know what the fok you‘re talking about, where?
These Brazilian broads are fokin stunning, and come in all shapes and colors.
I’ve hanged out with argentinians , they don’t ever come close to Brazilians.
Even the fokin Brazilian guys are handsome, if I were a broad I would not think twice about giving them a piece of my culo.

Thank you.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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sloopskipper says on Aug 31, 2008, 17:16:

I recorded this from CNN and posted it (Shakira's Other Job) a few months ago, but who could better represent your country than this little girl from your home town?:

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droble77 says on Aug 31, 2008, 17:21:

I like the brasileiras too elmo. I think no one can match them when it comes to energia en la cama. :0) But there's plenty of Colombiana stunners also, and they have other positive traits as well besides just looks.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 17:24:

JUANES IS A NICE GUY BUT COME ON , YOU CAN'T COMPARE HIM TO SHAKIRA WHEN IT COMES TO PUTTING A GOOD FACE ON OUR LITTLE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY

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elmodefoque says on Aug 31, 2008, 17:37:

yes, those LAZY STUPID COSTENOS

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Monpirri says on Aug 31, 2008, 18:27:

Simon, I'm not from las costa but I have to be honest. Juanes is a fine artist who also has done a great deal for Colombia also but he should have not been the first choice.
I would say Shakira should have been the first choice because all her world tours and her millions in music sales, she is all the way on the top with American Divas, and last but not least because of her “Fundacion Pies Descalzos"

I must be the only Colombian on PBH who gets along with Argentineans and the thousand of Colombians who live in Argentina. Maybe it’s because I grew up with them and I worked with them.
What’s wrong with dating Argentineans?

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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billyb says on Aug 31, 2008, 18:45:

The guy should have chosen Elmo, but then we would have missed this thread.

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romy says on Aug 31, 2008, 18:48:

"I must be the only Colombian on PBH who gets along with Argentineans and the thousand of Colombians who live in Argentina. Maybe it’s because I grew up with them and I worked with them."

hmmmmmm

you grew up in Argentina? Born in Colombia? Live in the US?

I see why we disagree on most things.... we are opposites of each other.

btw, to clarify you're not the only Colombian on PBH that gets along with Argentinians, etc...


On the OP- I believe Gabo should be #1, forget Shakira, Juanes, and especially Uribe.

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Monpirri says on Aug 31, 2008, 19:14:

I grew up playing soccer with Colombians, Argentinians and Peruvians in Jersey and I worked with Argentinians, Colombians and Peruvians in NJ.
I am glad you get along with Argentinians, so what do you think about, "What’s wrong with dating Argentineans?" You did not touch that subject.

Yeap, Gabo is also a good choice but I think the show was referring to entertaining artists.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:00:

Juanes would be a perfect choice to represent their little pueblo (medellin) but NOT when it comes to hitting the world stage he don't stand a chance.
competing between cali, bogota and the rest of the andean cities, medillianos win hands down but in representing COLOMBIA, with talent, wealth, culture etc. best to let costenos handle that

thank you

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elmodefoque says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:12:

these is the kind of talent andean cities(bogota, cali, medellin etc.) better worry about.
see if your andean city could come up with a song better than this
dont even try to compete in the world stage

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Monpirri says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:34:

There you go again picking up on the Peruvians again.
Bogota, Medellin and Cali are not in Peru, can you find videos that reflect the ones from the Colombian Andes?

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elmodefoque says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:37:

monpi, los andes is all la misma mierda, colombia, peru, ecuador boliiva

anyways, I LOVE THAT SONG!!!! this chit is over 50 thousand years old
the euros were still living in caves, eating each others caca

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:39:

Elmo, step down from that cloud.
There's aHUGE difference between say Cali and La Paz, Bolivia. You know it, just admit it. Just once.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Monpirri says on Sep 1, 2008, 08:43:

Ok, viejo Elmo, I get it now.
It's funny my Peruvian friend is leaving this Friday to meet his future wife in Bogota.

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romy says on Sep 1, 2008, 10:17:

nothing wrong with dating Argentinas...

just like there's nothing wrong with being an Indio... race is the silliest thing.

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Monpirri says on Sep 1, 2008, 11:48:

OK.
Viva Colombia, Argentina y Peru! :>)

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papiChulo says on Sep 1, 2008, 16:05:

maybe the paisa that answered the question was thinking... which colombian is not a sell out? ie: a real colombiano living and working in colombia that has the cash to live somewhere else.... in that case Juanes is in a class of his own.

avoid the unhappy and the unlucky

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Monpirri says on Sep 2, 2008, 04:17:

I did not know that real colombianos are the ones who live in Colombia. Former and current leaders in Colombia lived abroad for while.
Sell out? http://fundacionpiesdescalzos.com/

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papiChulo says on Sep 2, 2008, 09:09:

if the shoe fits... jejeje

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Mononoke28 says on Sep 2, 2008, 13:07:

I agree with the paisa on TV. Juanes, papá.

Diana

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 2, 2008, 23:07:

My wife's one word opinion about Argentines: creidos.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 3, 2008, 01:35:

juanes, seems like a nice guy and all but his music is latinPOP rock , typical andean cities chit, always trying to please their MASTERS TO THE NORTH (GRINGOS)
Carlos Vives is a very PROUD COSTENO and as such, plays AUTHENTIC COLOMBIAN MUSIC, giving homage to OUR TRADITIONS something our cachaco brothers know very little about
BARRANQUILLEROS CIVILIZED OUR NATIVE ANDEAN BROTHERS TO THE SOUTH LONG AGO AND WE WILL MAKE THEM PROUD OF THEIR TRADITIONS ONCE AGAIN .
WE DREAM OF A TIME WHEN FOKIN BAMBUCO IS HEARD ALL OVER PARQUE LLERAS, CRIPPY CRAPPY MALL AND ZONA ROSA, NOT PHIL COLLINS
thank you!

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Mononoke28 says on Sep 3, 2008, 09:52:

Well the thing about Juanes and what sets him apart from your average latin rock is that he's successfully fused different Colombian rhythms with standard pop/rock sounds. That's why "La Camisa Negra", "Fíjate Bien" and "La Paga" did so well. He also did a version of Joe Arroyo's "La Noche" which I thought was wonderful.

And yes, Carlos Vives is amazing and I love him for what he's done but is he known worldwide as much as Juanes. I don't see that happening.

Gabriel García Márquez is also a great Colombian ambassador but now days people seem to read less and less which is really sad.

Shakira is also known worldwide but she's a voltearepas anyway, so she doesn't count. >D

Diana

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Monpirri says on Sep 3, 2008, 16:32:

Mononoke, voltiarepas is someone who is constanly praising one country over Colombia.
For example, instead of promoting Colombian products he or she would rather advertise or use products from the other country. i.e a voltiarepas would say, I rather have a tortilla than an arepa and so on. In his or her opinion Colombia is always second or last!
A voltiarepas would not spend any time looking for information to educate his fellow cyber friends because he or she would rather post info that is going to team her or him with his or her friends.

A voltiarepa would say something like the music X country in Spanish is better than Colombian music.
In other words, a voltiarepas would sale everything that does not belong to him or her for peanuts or he or she would do it for a couple of beers or whatever.

En otras palabras, un voliterepas es huevon o una huevona que solo sirve para poner a Colombia abajo.
Un ejemplo NO realistico, un presidente de un pais que de repente le de por hacerse un dinerito, o por solo por tener unos amiguitos en una parranda, le da por vender todo el carbon de Colombia y para rematar regalado a su pais favorito.
O alguien que diga en Colombia, bueno ya nosotros no necesitamos producir mas cine o novelas que promueban lo bueno de Colombia porque ahora en adelante paramos esa vaina y comenzamos ha exportar todo lo extranjero porque lo del exterior es superior a los productos colombianos. Gente asi tienen la mente carcomida por el gran gusano de la ignorancia. Esos son voltiarepas!
Y tambien los que se hacen los tuertos y los mudos cuando hay que decir algo a favor de la patria.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 3, 2008, 17:22:

VOLTIAREAPA JIJIJIJJJJJAJAJAJAJIJIJIJI
i wouldn't go as far as calling shakira a voltiarepa or voltibutifarra, she gives colombia and espcially barranquillla a shout out every time she's on the world stage.
for me, a classic voltiarepa is BETANCOURT, she sold out her country for a handful of franks or pesos? what ever french money is called

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papiChulo says on Sep 3, 2008, 18:34:

carlos vives is a gear box!

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