Juanes asks Hillary Clinton support for anti-landmine campaign

Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:45:

That would be nice if she did it **personally**...walking in one of the FARC minefields.......would solve alot of problems.....=)

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miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:54:

She's (hillary) a Good Lady, lets hope she throws her full support behind this issue! Where was past SOS Condi Rice on the issue and what did she accomplish on it? Colombians like Husband Bill and well they should, he started and signed Plan Colombia into law back in 1999, largely resonsible for the improved security Colombia enjoys today.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:02:

I agree with you MM...she should take the "first step" i say........=)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:12:

more than what obamamama has under his belt......=).....lesser or greater of 2 evils?

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theflatline says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:14:

I think she should walk through the mindfield holding hands with Pastrana on one side and Carlos Vives on the other.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:42:

i always said that they should offer the following to all FARC and Paras.....hold a futbol game between the two factions, in a mine field, and the last standing player gets a pardon for all his sins......=)..they could PPV it and raise money for the military and civilian victims, including children, for their medical treatment and financial support.......

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miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:55:

Like I asked, what did the past SOS Condi Rice of the past administration accomplish on the Issue? Links please

Notice no comments left on the fact that Hillary's husband Bill, who started and signed Plan Colombia into Law and which is largely resonsible for the much improved state of Security enjoyed by Colombia today. No comments on this? Why Not?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:58:

MM..i could give a shit what condi did....Hillarybillary is a pathetic POS.....so is her POS husband.......=)

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Simon says on Jun 11, 2009, 14:59:

We've discussed this before MM, it was Pastrana who thought it up, and yes, Clinton put up the money.

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 15:10:

Simon says --"and yes, Clinton put up the money"

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And more important, HE(clinton) signed Plan Colombia into law. Give credit where its due. Personally I could care less who signs what as long the end result is accomplished. Obviously, not much has been accomplished in the past 8 years. If something has, please list a link to the source

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 16:12:

miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 17:24:

Not only was Colombia ignored on Bush's Watch, so was the rest of the Americas. That's why Hugo Boy, Iran and China moved in and signed many deals in the Americas. We lost our "backyard" for that stupid Crusade into Iraq and NO WMD.

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Simon says on Jun 11, 2009, 17:46:

Even though I think he was a horrible president, I actually think Bush was a good friend to Colombia. He always advocated passing the FTA with Colombia and even visited the country twice.

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adrimm (Moderator) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 18:41:

Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 18:43:

Bush couldn't get the FTA with Colombia passed, because congress wouldn't go along with it. I think congress was a Democratic majority during those years.

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adrimm (Moderator) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 18:53:

I don't know how much Hilary can do about the Landmines.

To me it would read as very hypocritical since the US is one of the more glaring absences from the 1997 Ottawa Treaty (also known as the Convention On The Prohibition Of The Use, Stockpiling, Production And Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines And On Their Destruction).

http://www.icbl.org/index.php

The next major meeting will be in Cartagena.

Wikipedia also diplays a map with signatories/non-signatories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

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miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:05:

Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 18:43 (today): flag

Bush couldn't get the FTA with Colombia passed, because congress wouldn't go along with it.
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RJ===and Congress wouldn't go along with it because they thought, by a preponderance of the Facts, that not enough was done in bringing to Justice all the murderers of those many Newspeople and Trade Unionists. Very few of the Perps who committed thee Murders are actually sitting in Jail this very moment. IMO, it was a good thing not to pass the FTA until Colombia rounds 'em up and sends them to the Corral(jail). In the meantime, Colombia could pass a reverse FTA by dropping their High Import Tariffs on US Products heading into their country as a Gesture. Many Colombian Products already head to the USA Duty Free. How about some long overdure Trade Recipricocity?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:11:

That is intelligent...penalize a whole country of people because some homicides dont get solved.....in my book, that is retarded thinking.....but no one ever has accused Congress of being intelligent.....in fact, they all suck chorizo to get where they got.....chorizo-suckers, the whole bunch of them......

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:22:

Wouldn't want to appear anti-union to a lib. Using stats posted here in the past, trade union members actually were LESS likely to be mudered than the general population. Did union guys get whacked? Yes. That's bad. But come up with an argument that holds water. Worried about the unions, cut off trade with China. That would be at least consistant.

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Simon says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:25:

"That is intelligent...penalize a whole country of people because some homicides dont get solved.....in my book, that is retarded thinking"

I I absolutely completely agree wholeheartedly!

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:30:

romy says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:40:

try, more union members are killed in Colombia than in any other country... you don't think that holds your water? If much more Colombians are dying that's another issue, who kills them all? hmmm

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:56:

Romy, I don't think we are in disagreement. But there is a LOT more to the story and it's political.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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miamimike says on Jun 11, 2009, 20:44:

Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 19:22 (today): flag

Wouldn't want to appear anti-union to a lib. Using stats posted here in the past, trade union members actually were LESS likely to be mudered than the general population. Did union guys get whacked? Yes. That's bad. But come up with an argument that holds water. Worried about the unions, cut off trade with China. That would be at least consistant.
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RJ--Back to the question--How many of the Perps are actualy sitting in Jail for their dirty deeds? In the meantime, Colombia could pass a reverse FTA by dropping their High Import Tariffs on US Products heading into their country as a Gesture. Many Colombian Products already head to the USA Duty Free. How about some long overdue Trade Recipricocity?

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bam m says on Jun 11, 2009, 22:07:

nice pantsuit !! why is her cola on the front of her body......??? oh..sorry shes preggers...

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 11, 2009, 22:37:

MiamiMike - no argument from me on your question: "In the meantime, Colombia could pass a reverse FTA by dropping their High Import Tariffs on US Products heading into their country as a Gesture." I

I totally agree with you. Again, no argument from me on that statement. I have been wondering about that for 3 years now.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Simon says on Jun 12, 2009, 11:40:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/miami-music/2009/06/juanes-goes-to-wash...

Juanes goes to Washington

He's putting his clout where his songs are. Colombian - no, make that international - rock star Juanes, whose music movingly deals with social issues in Colombia and Latin America, paid a visit to Washington Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, meeting with members of Congress, the Obama administration and the State Department to talk about his work with landmine victims and other humanitarian causes in Latin America. (Juanes' Mi Sangre Foundation works with landmine victims in Colombia, the most landmine ridden country in the world, with three victims a day). The trip culminated in a meeting with Secretary of State Hilary Clinton.
Juanes and Clinton discussed plans for the next Concierto Paz Sin Fronteras (Peace Without Borders Concert). The first Paz concert last year, with Juanes and other Latin stars such as Miguel Bose, Juan Luis Guerra, Alejandro Sanz, Carlos Vives, drew 200,000 people to the border of Colombia and Venezuela at a moment when Colombian president Uribe and Venezuela's Chavez were in a tense face-off over border crossings and interference in Colombia's drug wars.

Interesting that this comes as the Obama administration looks to revamp its relationship with Latin America. Things weren't nearly so friendly during the last administration, when Juanes always managed to find a reason to be otherwise occupied when he got an invitation from the Bush White House.



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Rocco81 says on Jun 24, 2009, 08:52:

You are right Miguel...Billary is bad, but not as bad as what Odrama is gonna get going here.

Sic semper tyrannis

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 24, 2009, 08:58:

Obamamama probably doesnt even know where Colombia is on the world map......maybe he should ask McCain....jajajjaja

still, i would like to see Billary take the first step on those land mine fields........with Bill right behind here.....

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