Jealousy and colombianas...

southernman says on Feb 12, 2006, 01:21:

Jealous Get use to it, my Colombian woman told me she is very jealous, does it bother me? Sometimes, but for the most part, I love it. My lady get Jealous because she can't see me in my city, it's not so much that she thinks I am cheating on her or something, she just can't see me,so, If I mention that I had a meeting with my secretary, she will quickly ask me, were you two alone, or when I get ready to go to my office, she will say, I don't want you in the office with your secretary.
If you treat your woman the best, she will not want you to be around any woman, other than herself.
These Beautiful creatures are jealous and possessive, and you have to love it or hate it, and depending on hhow you feel, it will determine you some of your life course with her.
I treat my woman like a queen, I live in the United States, she lives in barranquilla, do you think she is not going to be Jealous? Mine is very Jealous too, because she has not been in a relationship, I am her first, so this is a big factor too.
I went to Barranquilla to see my lady, we were in the resturant with all her friends, other lady friends, and some guys. One lady was talking to me, with my lady sitting next to me, and all we were talking about was nothing. I had my arm around my lady enjoying the touch of her delicious body, but do you know she went to the bathroom because she was jealous of me talking to her friends.
If I sat there and didn't say anything, then she might have said, I was being anti-social.
The beautiful things was, when she told me she was jealous, I remembered the conversation, and I felt bad that she felt bad, I don't ever want to make my lady feel bad or Jealous, I apologizedto her, and kissed and loved on her so much that she knew I was her and she doesn't have anthing to worry about, that day.
Tomorrow will be different, but I love it.
Not trying to tell you what to do dude, just sharing my experience.

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bbattiste says on Feb 12, 2006, 06:37:

Yep...Just get used to it My wife arrived in the states just three weeks ago and her jealousy seems to be a little better. Before arriving in the states she was jealous of my female dog and didn't like it when I talked with her 15 year old niece who is not your typical attractive colombiana. So, my wife has a bit of a problem too and we have been together for more than two years.

Before my wife arrived in the states I bought a house from an attractive single mother. Well, out of the blue this woman stops by to see the house while she was visiting the neighbor at 7:30 in the evening. It was a very ackward situation, but to my surprise my wife only asked a few questions and let it go. I was never involved with this women, but while I was buying the house she did detain me several times just to talk. This time I don't blame my wife if she is a little jealous. Although nothing happened between me and this woman, I imagine my wife might be wondering if anything did. The times when my wife should be jealous,she isn't...and when she shouldn't be, she is. At times, they are hard to figure out, but it is worth it.

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rocinante says on Feb 12, 2006, 12:28:

explaining the inexplicable My 2 cents. A majority of fights that occur in any culture are not usually about what they’re about. Meaning that the underlying reason is something else. She's most likely mad about something or someone else and it might not even be you that she's mad at. She may be mad at herself or one of her family members or mad that you are away. But for some reason a different reason (your ex wife) comes out. Maybe before getting married she promised and convinced you that she wouldn't care if you left her for half the year and now her feelings on that have changed; so she is using the ex wife, incorrectly, as amo, hence your confusion.

By her not taking your calls or taking your money is a huge red flag, in my mind. There is something bigger behind the curtain.

By the way, I love your posts and feel we are in agreement on many things about US and Colombia.

Good luck my friend.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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seammckenna126 says on Feb 12, 2006, 13:18:

I think you missed it by a mile I don’t have kids nor an ex wife, but I don’t need to smoke to know that it causes lung cancer….with that said let me give you some things to think about that maybe you haven’t or at least you haven’t expressed it here….Even though it’s not necessary to agree with your new wife…you should however be able to see things from her point of view. Maybe she has or maybe she hasn’t expressed it to you but just from what you wrote I would say first and foremost you are actually forcing her to share her husband. HER husband. By that I mean…you are spending half your time there and have your time here, for what ever reason. The reasons aren’t important. She is getting “short changed”. Unless your marriage certificate said “part-time” marriage, that is exactly what she is getting from you. That alone is making her feel less than number one to you. Big, Huge mistake!
The other thing is even though she may like your ex-wife to some civil degree, that doesn’t mean she likes for you to be alone with her (as she sees it in her mind), not to mention alone in a whole other country…especially since you two have remained friendly for the kids sake. You see it as being over, she may see it as “this man once loved this woman, has children with this woman, was married to this woman, made love to this woman”. Even though it’s innocent and parental in nature. You look at your ex in one light, she may be looking at it in a “past light”. Right or wrong isn’t the point. Trust is a key component in a happy marriage, but your purposely asking a lot from it being in two different worlds, which is sort of unfair for all involved including yourself. She seen you going to your kids school performance and your ex wife was there…in her mind it may be “just like old times” kind of thing. It’s one thing for your wife to be with you (at least in the same country) and you two go to the kid’s functions…it’s quite another for her to be in Barranquilla while you and your ex wife are at the same function for the kids…whether your sitting together or came together with your ex wife, or what ever.
Your “eventually working it out” thing is only going to be, in reality, a postponement of the inevitable. While you may be totally innocent and a victim of circumstance, you are actually putting yourself in bad situation willingly. If your main desire is to have a loving, respectful and trusting and committed marriage I would be worried in the day that she is totally fine and content with the current situation that she is living with. This particular episode is just the tip of the iceberg that is eventually heading your way unless you re-evaluate what a marriage really is. I don’t see a part-time husband and part-time marriage being very satisfying and fulfilling to any woman who truly, deeply loves you in the right way. You two need to be permanently together. Other wise she will eventually look for a full time husband elsewhere and you really won’t have anyone to blame for that. Your too busy looking for a cure for the symptoms instead of one for the cause. Your missing this whole thing by a mile, dude. Your short changing everyone here, including your 4 kids.
I’m not judging, pointing fingers or saying your doing anything wrong. To see this in any other light, besides putting your two families on the back burner and to some degree, “selfishness” on your part, would be a big mistake not to consider. You will continually have to “keep working it out” until you do something to make this a “full time” marriage. Your not being fair to anyone here, not even yourself. It’s a bad situation you have here, I know. But it’s one that you willingly put yourself into. Money, phone calls and e-mails are absolutely no substitute for your time and attention. Anyone can do that for them.
I think you already know all this and you already know the one and only solution. You just need to decided if you want to do it or not. Unless of course infidelity, unhappiness and divorce feels good to you.
This isn’t marriage advice….It’s only one stupid man’s opinion, but I see a light at the end of your tunnel and I think it’s a freight train heading your way. I am only surprised you don’t see it since you was married once before. Everything in your life cannot be number one because that will never, ever work. It’s an impossibility.
I don't think this is a jealousy issue, I think it's a "marriage" issue. As far as her not taking your money...I can understand that. In case you don't...it's one of two things...(1) If you can't be HER full time husband then don't be one at all, or along those lines. OR (2) You being gone to your other family (as she sees it) for the other half of the year, your making her feel like along the lines of a well taken care of prostitute. NO disrespect intended what-so-ever.
One last thing to consider....again, only for consideration....Would you keep a dog that came home for only 6 months out of the year? If your making yourself into a part-time husband and part-time father (ouch!!) then don't be surprised if your family gets hurt and angry.
You can look sorrowful and try to reason with the people who love you or you can take the bull by the horns and do something about it.
By the way, did you ever stop to think that her not taking the money or your phones calls is her way of saying...."Get your butt down here and show me that our marriage is important and work this out face to face"? Women are funny that way, they like to think they are number one in your heart...over your work and everything else.
What you call a "loved one going off the deep end for what seems to be nothing", others say it's more than justified...just coming out at the wrong time perhaps.
Best of Luck to you.

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soldoncol says on Feb 12, 2006, 15:17:

my colombianna is extremely jealous and that is life with a colomba. for good and for bad, that is the result of the real emotions of a latina. It manifests itself in this way,as well as the way she can never get enough of Y O U. Thats the part I like

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rocinante says on Feb 12, 2006, 15:57:

you sank my battle ship! seammckenna126, your post is articulate, complete and spot on. CostaJunkie originally requested no marriage advice so I danced around the separation issue. But you, my good man, have landed a direct hit.

How both parties agreed to the 6mo/6mo deal is probably a private matter but there is no doubt that this time apart is the direct problem or has indirectly caused another problem.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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seammckenna126 says on Feb 12, 2006, 16:01:

. Rocinate, wanted you to know that i posted a public apology to you on my last thread. sorry for the mix up.

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Crazy4Cali says on Feb 12, 2006, 16:52:

Yup. Things, like the 6 and 6 situation, can look and sound quite reasonable and be completely unworkable at the same time. That they were agreed upon in a seemingly rational fashion, just makes it harder to admit, after looking at the empirical evidence, that they were, in fact, a bad idea.

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Wastelandlive says on Feb 12, 2006, 17:05:

Wow... SeanMckenna reads you the riot act... ... and gets all kinds of reinforcement from the crowd.

And I'm wondering how many of these gentleman have divorced the mother of their children, remarried, and yet continued to fulfill their responsibilites as fathers.

You are doing so. I respect that.

Guys, guess what? He'll be attending a lot more than athletic events... there'll be parents weekends, graduations, marriages, and baptisms of the grandchildren to look forward to, all of which he will be attending along with the ex.

La Colombiana knew that he had kids when she got into it; she's going to have to deal with it, punto.

CostaJunkie, you got exactly the advice you didn't ask for; I trust you know what to do with it.

Wasteland

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 12, 2006, 17:13:

My wife and I and my ex-wife all live in the same small Texas town. All our kids go to school together and play on the same sports teams together. No jealousy on the part of anyone so I guess I can't be much help.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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andresote says on Feb 12, 2006, 17:24:

not just colombianas get jealous, I think this is something that's fairly universal among most races of women, but perhaps because Colombianas and latinas in general are more forthcoming with their emotions it's a little easier to see in them...?
My Colombian wife tells me that she's not a particularly jealous girl, but qualifies it by saying that if you don't get at least a little jealous sometimes it effectively means you don't really love that person, which I think is fair enough.
Jealousy (especially when it seems unwarranted... i.e. all the time)and other emotional phenomena can be hard to handle, but as others have said it's part of the price you pay for having a beautiful, funny, sensual, sexual, caring, loving Colombiana for a partner... enjoy!

el mundo da vueltas y lo que haces puede recaer en ti mas tarde... todo en la vida se paga

el mundo da vueltas y lo que haces puede recaer en ti mas tarde... todo en la vida se paga

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GregYohn says on Feb 12, 2006, 17:41:

Jelousy Hey!

My GF from Baranquilla is not jealous! We talked about things, since I am in Philadelphia and she is there. Fortunately, I can be honest to her and say she is much better than my ex.

The ex was a filipina and her father was a chick guy. When we got married she thought I was after other women while waiting on her to get here with the marriage visa. Looks like she went for other men and isnow pregnant by another guy in less than 90 days after she got to the USA.

I learned both women like alot of communication as their only similarity.

Contact me concerning packages sent back there or to here. My GF has a tourist visa to come here to carry legal items to the states on her next trip. FedEx said $69 to send a Valentine's Card! OUCH! Paid it anyway!

Greg

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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costajunkie says on Feb 13, 2006, 10:59:

THX Wastelandlive... I do know how to say "thanks!" for being able to look at the original intent of the poster as opposed to watching following a million "Dear Abbies" read a countless things wrong into my alleged behavior, and then taking it to a place where it was never meant to be.

I believe that I said that I needed no marriage advice, but I guess what can I expect?

Walk a mile in my shoes, have full knowledge of the way I conduct my life, the way I have maintained and upheld the responsibilities for the children from a previous marraige as well as my new family, and then you will be better able to judge my deficiencies as a man.

"Guys, guess what? He'll be attending a lot more than athletic events... there'll be parents weekends, graduations, marriages, and baptisms of the grandchildren to look forward to, all of which he will be attending along with the ex.
La Colombiana knew that he had kids when she got into it; she's going to have to deal with it, punto"

Additional thanks... if anything was right on about my life, it is this... I'm amazed you saw it.

Yeah, I know what to do with "this info I didn't ask for"... Outta here!

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mariasman says on Feb 13, 2006, 12:33:

Hey Costa I have the same thing going on with my Beautiful Colombiana. She gets jealous whenever I talk to my ex as well. I mean extremely jealous. Just keep working her thru these difficult times and things will change for the better. Never give up on her. It really is just an innocent thing that she has no control of. As with me, My Colombiana has never met my ex but as she is still living in Colombia and my ex here in the same state as myself, I have to interact with her just because I have a daughter with her whom I like to have on my days off so when I do call the house to speak to her( My ex only has a cell phone), my ex will answer it on occasion and I (unwillingly) am civil with her no matter what she did to me in the past. We are in no way friends but we have a peaceful co-exsistence currently( The monster is in hibernation I guess). If you have read any of my last posts, you will know that I am totally against the American woman and as for my ex, I despise her with every last bone in my body but that is for another topic. Well, like you, I tell my wife( my beautiful wife) when I have a phone encounter and she just doesnt seem to understand why I have to deal with her at all, so what follows is her getting angry and at times, very sick to her stomach thinking about what we could possible be talking about with her. Then, I get sick because she is unhappy. If you have ever seen the movie "Scarface", if you remember the part when Tony goes to visit his mom and sister and when Manolo saw Tony's sister for the first time and made a comment on how beautiful she was and then the look on tony's face and the quick response, well, then you kinda have an idea of what happens when I tell her that I had to talk to her. You know what, at first, I didnt know what to think, then, I used to get a little angry and even blew up a few times( never in a negative way, only constructive anger was used) but now, I am learning to deal with it by reassuring her more with all the love I can give her( even if it is only by phone for the next few days). That wasteland dive guy that commented on your thread really has no idea of what a relationship is all about. Sometimes, it is about sacrafice which I am sure you are doing. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, right? I am sure that either one of you is planning some kind of move in the near future whether it be to the states or to Colombia( I really didn't like the reference that Mr. wasteland used about "Feeling like she is a high class prostitute either). At anyrate, send her flowers. Tomorrow is Valentines day so don't forget it. You know, another thing could be that yes, maybe she is proud and maybe she really realizes that she made a mistake but she is too proud to tell you. This is very possible.Just keep pushing hard with no offense and very little defense( got to have defense or you enter Wuuus status.). Make sure that she knows that you don't care about what happened and that your life would be empty without her. She will answer soon. Jealousy + Pride = una situacion muy dificil. The solution is patience. Good luck my friend.

mariasman

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mariasman says on Feb 13, 2006, 12:43:

One more thing Just the fact that she s jealous means that you have a keeper. She really loves you and is so scared to lose you because to her, you are her life. I am sure that she is just embarrased to tell you. So, as for the sour feelings, there is no need to have any. I have never held any resentment toward my wife for any of the past jealousy episodes. Actually, I din't know what it is but when she is angry( from a bout of jealousy) I think she becomes even sexier( I only mention this to her after the jealousy spell has ended). I wouldn't change one thing about my wife, not even the Jealousy genes.

mariasman

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seammckenna126 says on Feb 13, 2006, 16:31:

I never said your behavior was wrong I never once said your behavior was wrong. Your trying to put this on her as a jealous thing…and my opinion doesn’t mean anything I know, but that’s not it. Some people don’t know, others don’t care. I naturally assumed your the first kind. I applaud the way you are juggling your kids and wife in two different countries and I take my hat off to you. Some people ask what cough medicine is best for a nagging cough when the answer is to quit smoking. Some get it, some don’t. This has nothing to do with your ex or your kids. She’s just mad that she wasn’t able to go to your kid’s performance with you and that‘s a good thing that she cares enough to want to go. I’m sure you’d rather have her here in the U.S., but until that time, she’s going to get mad about things you think are stupid. As the other person stated…..she will have to deal with it. That’s real insightful advice. I like how my thread got all turned around as a personal attack, but that’s ok. I don't see how someone stating the obvious fact that the current living situation is probably the Biggest, if not the main, problem is an attack on your character or sincerity. I read and re-read my previous comment to you **** What exactly did I say that is grossly incorrect?****
It's my belief that you was looking in the wrong direction and I went on to state how she might be possibly looking at things. If someone was traveling down the wrong street and yelled out the car window for directions to anyone who might be listening and cared enough to help, I wouldn't say..."oh, drive around awhile. you will do just fine, one of these roads has to lead to where your going." I'd say, "your on the wrong street, you need to be over on this other street." Even though my comments were not sugar coated with..."awwww, it will be ok, she’s this and she’s that...." doesn’t mean I was trying to be judgmental. I wasn’t and I’m still not. You wanted to know what to do about her jealousy. Your looking for answers to jealousy and this isn’t about jealousy at all, but you don’t want to hear that so...just keep soothing her, I’m sure she will get over it and if all else fails…take the other person’s advice and tell her she will have to deal with it. That always works well.
Christian advice straight from the Bible is never taken easily by a lot of people. I apologize for pointing out one (of many I'm sure) obvious solution to your problem and caring enough to try and help. It seems that putting this thing on her and making her out to be jealous over nothing feels better.

BTW mariasman, Wastelandlive didn’t say that...it was me and if the possibility of her feeling like that offends your tender sensibilities...I'm so sorry, but some do feel that way at times. I just said it’s one possibility. Your right, I’m sure I have no idea what a relationship is all about. I'm sure the only problem is she's just jealous and the obvious fact that this is an undesirable and sad living situation has minimal, if any, impact on her behavior.

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costajunkie says on Feb 13, 2006, 18:27:

You know, perhaps this thread would not have gone this direction if 1)I mentioned the fact that this is not my first relationship with a Latina (I do hate to generalize), and with each one this theme of jealousy always seemed to be part of the mix, and 2) I used a better example, one that explained none of the dynamics of my current relationship. For, example, if I had related the time when my lady got something out my wallet (it was OK, I asked her to look), where she found a business card from a woman with whom I do business, and the rest of the evening was spent looking at her "hang-dog" expression, convinced that it could be someone else no matter what I said... would this have better explained my intention?

The least that would have happened is that these closet analysts would have remained in the closet, on the sideline, the place where they truly belong on this account.

Seanmckenna... Perhaps because I shared with people some of the background on my relationship, you feel it's fine to come out and play marriage counselor to me or anyone who might feel inclined to share some the more in-depth details about their relationship. The problem is you don't have an inkling of the circumstances of my past, her past, what brought us together, our present, our plans for the future, my relationship with all my kids, etc...

"I never said your behavior was wrong"

What's this then? "Your short changing everyone here, including your 4 kids"... "If you can't be HER full time husband then don't be one at all"... "What you call a loved one going off the deep end - others say it's more than justified"... "Your “eventually working it out” thing is only going to be, in reality, a postponement of the inevitable"... ad nauseam...

The danger here is you attack someone who is really trying his hardest to make things work... and who's wife who will also agree, regardless of the bumps. For example, most people understood my 50%-50% absence to mean that I am gone for 6 months at one stretch... NO!!! Just last month I made 3 roundtrips in the span of 10 days. Why? I have a business and work that provides well for all of the ones I love, including her and the child. At most, I am absent for two or three weeks, with lots of time on my hands to spend only for her when I do get there.

I have spent about all the time that I wish to spend here on this thread and on one person who sees as the looming catastrophe coming my way... the least I want this to seem is some kind of attempt at self-vindication. My sensibilites are something quite less than tender, but I do get a little indignant with someone who has taken my post and turned into a wholly off-based and unwelcome analysis of my life and relationships.

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seammckenna126 says on Feb 13, 2006, 18:40:

I never attacked you. Your entitled to your opinion.
Sincerest luck on your marriage. You seem to have everything under control. By the way, anytime you get on a public open forum, you will get unwelcomed responses. To bad you can't tell which is well meaning and which are bashing you. Anyone who reads what I wrote can see that I say..."she may be feeling this way...." Like you, I try with my best intentions even though it may not be recieved as such. I would never intentionally rub salt in a wound to anyone. If I hit a sore spot, it was unintentionally. You are correct, I should mind my own business from now on. Your advice is well recieved.

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costajunkie says on Feb 13, 2006, 20:45:

No harm, no foul...

As I said in my previous post, my point would have been better served if I had used an example with less biographical exposition.

No matter what you said in your post that may have hit a "sore spot" (my Gringo family loves to spend the weekends together questioning the path I have chosen to take in life), I never felt that your counsel was malicious. Misguided??? Hmmm... you are right on some points, but because you don't know the whole story, it is off the mark on others. We'll let it lie at that...

However, circumstances being the way they are, we are simply trying to make the best of life together whenever possible. This doesn't mean that we plan it to continue this way forever. I (and she) would have never accepted continuing the relationship like this if it were to be forever a part-time marriage. But just as she and our baby deserve a full-time husband and father, my 3 kids from a previous marriage also deserve a full-time dad. I wish that it could make it work another way, but it is just not possible at this time. My wife had full knowledge of what she was getting into, but occasionally she feels insecure (with her colombiana reasoning). She can't help but feel differently and insecure (yes, the distance, but mostly her past relations), but she is also trying hard to make it work too. Nevertheless, she would choose my "part-time" husband and father over any "full-time" husband (colombian or American) everytime.

I will understand all was done with your "best intentions" if you will forgive MY going off the deep end...

Gotta go... I need to call my wife before she goes to bed (as I said, it will blow over). She has been trying to read this thread, and though she doesn't completely understand what was said, she is "sharpening the knives" anyway because she believes that my honor was impugned...

Which leads to another possible topic - "Colombianas who would kill for their man"

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seammckenna126 says on Feb 13, 2006, 21:20:

KNIVES??? GOOD LORD I hope she's not one of my fiance's friends that's coming to our wedding party on friday in Barranquilla. I'm going there today actually. I'll be coming to you for advice on "married" latin women or first aid advice if your wife gets to me first. :) Tell her I was on her side here. hahahaha. For the record, wasn't doubting your love for your family. I watched my dad go through the same thing you are.
Maybe a little sugar coating on my part wouldn't hurt sometimes.
thanks for understanding.

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cfG21 says on Dec 4, 2008, 23:13:

Not just colombian buddy, but all latin women lol.... as a colombian i can tell you there are worse and some puerto rican women will stand toe to toe with you and will fist fight you.

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babylon5 says on Dec 5, 2008, 06:56:

You invited your ex-wife over to Thanksgiving with your "costena" there???? Chamo, estas loco? Let me put it simply and clearly, you just don't do that. No ifs, no ands, no buts. A Colombian woman, or most latin women, HAVE to feel that they are first in your life.....because, the number one thing that latinas worry about with their man...him being unfaithful, or even appearing to be unfaithful.....I would recommend that you make other arrangements for X-Mas.....

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casa_de_norte says on Dec 5, 2008, 09:31:

Jealous? My God man! it is their middle name.. it has gotten better for me... My wife has a term for it, I can't remember, but she acknowledges it, and it has gotten much better.. The trick is to not let your eyes linger too long, nor pay unneeded attention to other women.. I am a pretty friendly guy. I said hi to a shopping clerk at a grocery store, and made small talk while the order was being rung up. Nothing flirtatious .. Just my way.. she got PISSED! A very hot girl walked by.. like being guy, I looked.. we didn't talk for 2 days.....,

Babylon has it right-- They need to feel central in your life, and secure... I like to say, I didn't marry a plow horse, where I have to throw her some oats once in a while, I married a thorough bred and they can be tempermental, so you have to show them lots of love.... If I wanted a plow horse, I would have married a gringa,

"Why cain't we all jus' git along?!?! "----- The great Rodney King

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lpdiver says on Dec 5, 2008, 11:37:

I am very fortunate. My wifes jealousy button is very small and hard to find. It ranges more to hurt feelings than jealous rages.

Casa-de-norte...you are comparing your wife to a horse man? WTF you are brave...I get the analogy man; but, in the end a horse is a horse. Just yanking your chain BTW. BUT don't let your wife see the post.

ts

"cook some rice!"

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casa_de_norte says on Dec 5, 2008, 19:16:

LPDiver... After I wrote that I did say, "OOPs!" especially since she don't quite get American analogies..

"Why cain't we all jus' git along?!?! "----- The great Rodney King

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