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ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME, TO OPEN THE FORUM UP TO NEW MEMBERS?

just ran into an acquaintance/client I have not seen for about a year so,
at the Wing-Stop Restaurant. We started talkin..
he just got back from China, for a month, but is latino by heritage.
(If you're lucky, billyb.. I might take you to this particular wing restaurante..)
Anyway, after a long 'internationally oriented' conversation
about the virtues of so much of the rest of the world,
apart from the USA, of course,
much discussion about the fact that he probably
ought to brush up on his spanish...
he's goin to Colombia next year... and I gave him this website
HE'D LIKE TO LOG ON AND PARTICIPATE....... BUT.....
.........BUT....
..
..
...
BUT.... ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME, TO OPEN THE FORUM UP TO NEW MEMBERS???

THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN OVERLOOKED...
AFTER BUT A FEW COMMENTS IN THE RECENT PAST,
BUT, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LONG, NOW...
DON'T YA THINK, PETER? DESI?

How 'bout some discussion, from the mods or from the peanut gallery,
about why? why this long? when opening again for new members?
why was it done in the first place? hasn't it been long enough now,
for 'mission to have been accomplished'?

The person who referred me here (you wanna kill 'm, jajaja!!) hasn't been on here
since he referred me.... (I know, he probably said to himself: "if they let him in, I'm leavin)... He's on to the next gal (colombiana, or maybe someone else). I told him a week ago that he should return. After trying to create new user name, since I had forgot about the 'currently closed to new members' policy... he looked back and had kept his old email with name and password.

The whole point I'm making, is... people are wanting in/on.. maybe it's time to lift the freeze.

Que Piense?

By goin_south on Apr 19, 2008, 19:40 in Friendly Talkzone.

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 19:40:

Que Piense?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 19:51:

In a variation of Grouchos Marx's famous words, your friend wouldn't want to be a member of any forum that would have you as a member? BTW, was that the Wing-stop, or the Wing-nut?

webmanco says on Apr 19, 2008, 20:21:

Let the doors wide open, and shy lurkes back in.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

george jung says on Apr 19, 2008, 20:22:

NO!!! To crowded with trival non sense with newbies as it is

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble" anonymous woman

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 19, 2008, 20:24:

pbh = la pequena cuba

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 20:27:

If you start letting them back in, then you will have the trolls like medallo loading up on new identities to use when they keep getting deleted.

Monpirri says on Apr 19, 2008, 20:45:

It's ok, medallo is not really an offensive dude. He's just the scapegoat because the real cartel is locked inside pbh. We need to end the quarantine, open the gate and welcome new members.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

muchacho_escondido says on Apr 19, 2008, 21:43:

Open her up, already! It's getting lonely on these boards and I'm afraid their demise is imminent without some fresh blood.

Before the cleansing and the fall of PBH iron curtain there were many more messages and interesting discussions. Now it's same old, same old every day.Seriously-- I am convinced that this forum will be quite simply dead within a year if the iron curtain isn't lifted.

As far as trolls go-- well, just delete them as they come. Eventually they'll get tired of registering: I can't imagine anyone who can be so attached to PBH as to go through the trouble of daily registration (and creation of new email accounts that goes with that).

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 21:58:

Excellent points, _escondido. I think you're right about the demise.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 21:58:

" I can't imagine anyone who can be so attached to PBH as to go through the trouble of daily registration (and creation of new email accounts that goes with that)."

Muchacho, that's the thing, you wouldn't think so, but surprisingly there are plenty willing to do so. Then again, I have re-thought my position and have to admit that some of the trolls are quite entertaining, besides I hate anything that smacks of censorship. I mean, Chorizo posting a picture of his stack of pesos was priceless, LOL.

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:00:

AND ANOTHER POINT: Everyone who wants to keep it closeD, only focusing on the 'unwanted trolls'...
...................................what about the OTHER POTENTIAL POSTERS... who would contribute RICHLY to the community,... AND ARE BEING SHUNNED AWAY???

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:02:

Chorizo posting a picture of his stack of pesos was priceless

JJA.. I think I missed that; can you re-claim and post it here.... (uh,.. without hi-jacking a most important thread - I fear escondido's point is the significant one)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:04:

You are right ducks, if they'd had this policy a couple of years ago, you all would have missed out on all my pearls of wisdom.

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:04:

(but, just think of how that STACK OF PESOS has improved in value! jaja, since the posting)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:05:

I'm certain you meant to say: 'cultured pearls' of wisdom

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:22:

Naahhh, nothing cultured about my pearls, jeje. but nice pun, nontheless.

goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:36:

ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME, TO OPEN THE FORUM UP TO NEW MEMBERS???

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:22:

There are ways to reduce and nearly eliminate duplictous memberships. I know on the British expats site that I tried to open a second account because I had forgotten my password and could not retrieve my personal e-mail at work.

They were able to detect a duplicitous account and reject it.

t

"cook some rice!"

aztec says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:24:

Had no idea it was still closed. Is there not a better method of controlling destructive impulses on PBH?

We all know who were/are the "over the top" trouble makers. Of course, have to admit we can all be a little troublesome sometimes.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:30:

Monpirri, you have no idea how offensive the troll you mentioned is. Just take my word on it.

It's up to Peter to open up new inscriptions or not. I have no part in it.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:45:

Aztec,

I had no idea it was closed as well. I guess we are in the vast minority of one membership posters.

t

"cook some rice!"

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:09:

Is Medallo the same guy as Lancer who was calling the moderators for help at one time??

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:35:

This troll had at least 30 different handles, all used up now. Monpirri, can't you just believe me when I say that this character gets really nasty when contradicted? Have you seen his posts when he loses it? Flies off the handle? The messages he sends to moderators in private? Please stop making excuses for trolls here. You have no idea what you are talking about, my friend. Sorry to have to put it so bluntly.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:36:

Thirty? Well I missed a few. How about posting them all?

t

"cook some rice!"

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:43:

Nah, I think you guys just wanted to show your muscle with Medallo because he spoke the truth about certain things! Have you seen his posts when he loses it? Which one?

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:51:

I can't believe that you, Monpirri, let a TROLL to manipulate you.

Yes, we wanted to show OUR MUSCLE, by having to spend hours and hours here in front of the computer eliminating offensive messages, editing, deleting, answering to mails and all this, just because we want to have this forum working. We wanted to show OUR MUSCLE with having to close down the new inscriptions for indefinite future because the site was bogged down by his garbage???

Are you sure, monpirri, that you want to align yourself with this character?

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:52:

No. lpdiver. That's a chapter inthe history of PBH that we want to leave behind.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 05:55:

Desi used to be a very nice woman. But big money and luxurious benefits would change anyone...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:09:

Well that is your choice of course just remember that "History tailgates" and "Those who fail to learn from their past are doomed to repeat it."

t

"cook some rice!"

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:40:

Let the bulls in

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:00:

Perhaps some new moderators are needed. Desi is too power hungry. Colombiche is too busy at the office. I would like to see Kat1 become a moderator. Cerealkiller might be a good moderator too. Rubito already has experience over at Colombia Blog. Why not let him be a moderator here?

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:04:

IMHO no new moderators should be moderating elsewhere.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:11:

jesus christ. give des a break, please? she does a thankless job faithfully and diligently, god knows. and puts up w/ crap that would have most of us going postal.

while i often disagree w/ her philosophically, i can't help appreciating her levelheadedness and tolerance.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:31:

Morphus, that's pretty funny statement that you just delivered. :>)
I have to admit it's a good one!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:35:

"jesus christ. give des a break, please? "
slguy, with that big money and benefits she gets, we have the right to pretend to better service.

slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 08:44:

big money? benefits? huh? what am i missing?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 08:52:

Desi is only in it for the money :)

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 08:54:

LOL

Slguy, thanks for being such a gent. No, you haven't missed anything. Ray and robi have been kidding me about "the big salary" I'm making here I guess they just can't understand WHY ANYBODY would be putting up with them and a few other characters here for free...I can understand them.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:01:

i had a suspicion there was some digital crank-yanking going on... ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:09:

it should be opened again after a few changes are made;

like a 10 minute close on the edit button.

a way to deal with the medoblado problem with his 600 accounts.

moderation that isn't biased and applies the rules evenly.

I think Rubito, Vicshere, billyb, webmanco, poco, etc., (I know I'm missing a few), would make great moderators. This is a site about Colombia............why not have a Colombian moderator based in Colombia?

This is all falling on Desi and she is overworked.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:11:

Webmanco? Ha Ha, that will never happen as long as Colombiche is around.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:12:

And Vicshere is way too hostile.

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:13:

Slguy, there are some rumors circulating on PBH about moderators:

Desi is paid 115k USD per year and has a new corporation Mercedes bought in Medellin Poblado (the fact was revealed when Peter posted the 2007 economical results of PBH). Photos of her around Parque Lleras in her Mercedes were posted in the past months.

Colombiche is paid the same, but she's angry at Peter and Desi because she did not get a car as benefit, even if she does not show it. Eventually, the resentment pops out when they fight about the famous hacker Webmanco.

Tinto resigned when he discovered that he was the only one not being paid. So, he started to post under the name of Medoblado, and 30 more names. Voices are that, after his last impersonation, a vampire, he was put in jail in Bolivia for some bombs affair.

Kat is a secret moderator: this has been revealed by many PBHers who received threatening emails from her about having their accounts deleted, and someone who asked and obtained her help to moderate some posts. She is also responsible of Elmo getting an alcoholic again, but that's another story.

Gringoloid, backed by going_south, revealed an interesting conspiration theory which claims that Utopia_Cowboy writes anything on PBH and moderate himself. Desi and co. are not real and just his invention.

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:18:

I to think that the forums should be open again, but thats up to Peter.

I suggest a 20 min close or a note made on the edit button that the post was altered on xxx date at xxx time.

Which makes sure that people who lie can't go back and edit their lies, or name calling etc., without leaving a trace.

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:19:

vicshere has guts and a sense of fairness.........it may sound hostile, i guess.

i think he could look at the rules and enforce them rather than sitting there with his thumb up his ass.

same goes for rubito..............

but webmanco is colombian based....................i think he would be too busy though.

there is no better way to moderate what's right and acceptable about colombia than to have a colombian moderator.

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:21:

it's all true for the relative newbies: UTOPIACOWBOY WRITES EVERYTHING ON PBH... (even Lisa Zee's posts.....that's really him, hating himself...jaj)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:21:

actually goin_south doesn't exist............he is my creation and another account............i'm really the pbher, goin south.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:23:

A lot of Colombians are biased. They might delete people that don't agree with them.

slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:25:

you guys havin' a good giggle at the pirate's expense, clearly.

just as clearly, i had it coming. jajajaja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

RAAAY says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:28:

Yes....open it up again........more and more people are coming to Colombia and this board is a great source of info for them.

On the trolls............I have 24 user names, which allows me, to have many varied and interesting conversations with myself. Sometimes, I think it would be nice to have someone else to talk to, if even for a little while.

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

tejasmarcos says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:31:

nobody is for status quo?

god is in your head

slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:34:

we need newbies to goof on when they post here trying to sell coat hangers, IMHO.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:37:

Morphus,,,,,,,,,,current moderation also deletes or demotes if you don't agree with them.

there was a guy here, scotty, who had his posts deleted for unknown reasons time and time again. there was absolutey nothing wrong with his posts; it was just biasness.

I was in a bar last night and was introduced to a new drink, called the 'European.'

1oz. Gibberish
1oz. Attack the person and not the argument.
1oz. Mods selectively enforce the rules.
A splash of Creme de Pow Wow and a garnish of chicken feathers.

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:51:

I also believe that people shouldn't post under multi handles, if they wish to change their handle once and a while, no problems, but posting in the same thread under more than one handle, can only mean one of two things to me, a person is out to cause problems or has mental problems.

Habitual liers and people who make up information (ie lie) should be deleted, as they tend to then lead people astray with deliberate false information.

An example was a famous poster on here who was deleted and would post out fabricatred stories of events like large scale shootings that never happened.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 09:53:

I have a few handles on reserve but I don't use them.

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:08:

morphus,

I have four handles, as I been coming here since 1999, but only use one at a time then drop one and start as a new person.

My reasons for changing handles once and a while is for security, as this a public forumn and although I limit my posting on personnel things, they come out over time, I know a few others who live in Colombia as well do the same as well.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:26:

Gringoloid, I wish you hadn't said that.

I have already explained it to you why I had to demote a couple of threads lately and it had nothing to do with me agreeing or not agreeing. Don't put that on me. If you and CtgBound (or anybody else) get into a lengthy match of name-calling, ad hominem attacks and whatever I will kill the thread, but check it out it may be just demoted and you're welcome to take your fight outside and invite your friends as an audience. I'm not going to be sitting here babysitting and policing grown-up people.

I don't have the time or the inclination for conspiratory theories or detective work of whoddunit first; but as I already told you, as long as we're not accepting any new members I'll have to be restrictive with deletion of accounts. If you consider that a bias, then there's not much else I can say.

To Morphus/Morgus and all your other handles; I will delete any double/multiple handles and block the IPs that I find. But I'm not out there to get anybody.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Lisa Zee says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:27:

I had no idea we were exclusive, no wonder it was nicer thise days, no crazy trolls!

I vote to keep it close.

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:28:

PBH is VIP now

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:30:

Webmanco, I just asked a question.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:34:

Lisa................medoblado has two handles going on right now in two different threads.

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:39:

Webmanco, I just asked you a question because you seem to be upset about the name Cuybiche? The name is rather cute and it follows your principles.
Are you really upset?

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:52:

Desi.............when a thread is demoted, it's the same as being deleted; ........most people here are just like you and they don't have the time or the inclination to look for demoted threads. i never look beyond page one in the active to read threads.

I don't think there is an active, public website/blog in the world that does not need moderation.

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 10:54:

There are a few ghost threads, when not deleted is quite a homework to find them.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:15:

Desi, Morgus should have never been deleted. He did no wrong.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:15:

*Loid, if I were you and had a thread demoted and still wanted to go on with the discussion I'd drop a pm to the people I was talking to. The thread is easy to locate in the OP's profile under POSTS. It's as if I sent you guys outside to talk about things that are no concern for
anybody else.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:18:

"My reasons for changing handles once and a while is for security"

CTG Bound, RAAAY and Robi are still breathing. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Alma del Norte says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:21:

Morphus:"CTG Bound, RAAAY and Robi are still breathing. I don't think you have anything to worry about."

Dem boyz is always givin' papaya!

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:27:

All the people that can not sign up with PBH are better off. There are a lot more productive things they can be doing. This site is addictive and takes up a lot of time. GIB and John_Stark did the right thing by leaving. Here we had John_Stark who used to be a brilliant attorney reduced to an obnoxious troll. I guess one morning he woke up and realized what was happening to him.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:31:

Morphus, I can't remember any longer why I (if it was me) deleted Morgus. There must've been a reason. You should be glad you were allowed back in with all the sexist garbage you've been writing here, for years and years.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:34:

how in the world would anyone think they could not be found in colombia? especially if they post a lot? Also with the way these colombians talk about each other.

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:36:

I hope Morphus is not the half of what he showed on here...

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:40:

My PM is always open and everyone who wanted to meet me for something, I always answered and showed up.
Security is a main concern in Colombia, without having to be paranoid about an internet forum.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:42:

Glad? I'm cursed...LOL. Anyway, it was before you were a mod. I'm over it anyway. I know I was innocent of what I was accused of.

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:44:

Look out Robi666, PMs are under privacy protection by the moderators. :>)

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:46:

They can only read the first email. After that you can email back and forth without them reading.

Monpirri says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:50:

Thank you for the warning.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:59:

Desi, demoting the thread means that all the valuable information posted is gone, also the future information and followups will never be made because of some jerkoff stalking and then ruining a thread.

Medoblado was responsible for a deleted thread where some people posted some really good pictures.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 12:18:

As long as the thread still exists (even if it was demoted) the information on it can still be searched.
About the lost pics...what can I say...I liked them too, but they can be re-posted. Don't feed the troll.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 12:42:

Desi...........as you say here: "as long as we're not accepting any new members I'll have to be restrictive with deletion of accounts."

then the inmates rule the asylum. there was a poster here UTC/JohnStark/buenaspues, etc.....I don't know how many accounts he had but he was a good guy even though he had an edge on himself............his comments were entertaining, and he was mostly just kidding around...just like morphus.

but for people that didn't understand his sense of humor they really threw him under the bus. Same thing with G5. You may keep the assholes but you lose a lot of intelligent posters like UTC. So i think you lose some good people just to keep an asshole active.

Now me, I'll never have a meltdown, I'm not that sensitive and the only way you're going to get rid of me is by deleting my account.

I just think my post should stay active and not be demoted.

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 13:05:

I don't see what the problem is. Most boards just block the IP address and trolls are kept to a minimum. Not too many people have the means to jump around to different computers.

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 13:10:

Don´t need to be on different computers to change the Ip address, in most cases don´t even need special software.

Fact is people feed the trolls, as simple as that.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

morphus says on Apr 20, 2008, 13:16:

So give people what they want.

Webmanco, what other tricks do you know? How can I break into someone's email account?

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 13:18:

That UC left this board was his own doing, not the mods. He got away with A LOT, only because he had plenty of past merits. You cannot continue acting like a total moron for months and years and not to have it fall back on you in the end. I was trying to keep him on the board to the very end. BTW, he is still reading this forum even if he's not posting. We got a reminder not that long ago.

Gomezman got just bored....I never heard a word from him that he was planning to quit, he wanted to take a break, but just like UC, he loved the fight.

No, I don't think "the inmates are running the asylum". I don't like these black and white scenarios; I prefer a more nuanced modus operandi.

Cheers!

Morphus, I know what to do with obvious trolls too. My problem is that I sometimes have a hard time deciding what to do with a poster who's been contributing good info for a long time but gets into stupid, juvenile fights with other posters. For the sake of the forum I want to keep good, knowledgeable people on; the easy solution would be just three strikes and out.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Lisa Zee says on Apr 20, 2008, 13:48:

It is very easy to read how people joke about things here and it is easy to ignore it and even laugh, BUT, when the assault is very personal, and "everytime" you post "any" comment, the same a/h keeps butting in, following you, and ruining whatever you post, that is a huge difference.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CatGirl says on Apr 20, 2008, 14:59:

Desi "Monpirri, you have no idea how offensive the troll you mentioned is. Just take my word on it."

Again I have been away a bit....but if the person you are referring to is the one from the Decemeber 2006 disaster, I have to agree

Loid: Medo is back?
"actually goin_south doesn't exist............he is my creation and another account............i'm really the pbher, goin south."....if this statement is TRUE - that explains a whole heck of ALOT! jaja

Purrr

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Rikito says on Apr 20, 2008, 15:58:

I say open the doors and let some fresh air in, but make sure the door swing's both ways!

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

gringoloid says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:21:

Desi...............this is what i'm talking about here with biased behavior.

Morphus states above:
"I have a few handles on reserve but I don't use them."

ctg bound states above:
"I have four handles, as I been coming here since 1999, but only use one at a time then drop one and start as a new person.

My reasons for changing handles once and a while is for security, as this a public forumn and although I limit my posting on personnel things, they come out over time, I know a few others who live in Colombia as well do the same as well."

Desi states:
"I don't have the time or the inclination for conspiratory theories or detective work of whoddunit first; but as I already told you, as long as we're not accepting any new members I'll have to be restrictive with deletion of accounts. If you consider that a bias, then there's not much else I can say."

Desi further states:
"To Morphus/Morgus and all your other handles; I will delete any double/multiple handles and block the IPs that I find. But I'm not out there to get anybody."

Now lets examine this exchange. Morphus, an american, states that he has some handles...........he's just kidding around, and i feel sorry for anyone who does not understand that, and Desi you know that he is just here pulling our legs and having some fun with us.

Then it goes to ctg bound, whose statement on the face sounds serious and he gives reasons of why he has 4 accounts. A clear violation of the rules that would get you popped on most sites that i visit and any american on this site.
Desi, what would the c-blog guy do?

Why no mention to ctg bound about his 4 accounts?

Then it goes into your statement that you don't have time or inclination to play whodunit on threads. But you sure do speak in firm words to morphus about what you would do about his accounts, that you know and i know are fictitious. Your statement reflects some sudden strong inclination. Why not apply that same inclination to ctg bounds 4 accounts?

If this was just one time, i'd say ok..........but this same anti american biasness has been going back to caritadeangel and as recently as last week with SiV.

You can run this site anyway you want.....................but this bias does not fool me one bit.

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:27:

Looks like some people are seeing things that are not there again.

The Cblog owner would e-mail the person and ask him why, if the person gave a reasonable answer like what I state, I know the Cblog owner would be fine on it, 100% sure.

Also and I am pretty sure Morphus does have more than one handle here I think he changed it a few years ago as well, although I could be thinking of somebody else.

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:39:

"he's just kidding around, and i feel sorry for anyone who does not understand that"

I know of at least two other Morphus' handles: "turista-sexuale" y "Pedhus".

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:57:

Hey, was the weather that bad where ever you guys are today?
damn... I didn't aim to start another riot, but SINCE YOU ASKED.....
Has anyone got any 'extra used handle's for sale?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:59:

Just remember I did reserve the ParaQuito handle.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 17:00:

goin_south ,

I am sure we could come to a deal, I have one handle with no flame wars and another with one flame war, what price are you offering?

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 17:13:

With the right money, I'd sell my main handle.

webmanco says on Apr 20, 2008, 17:14:

A few handles are priceless, too much moral value.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 17:19:

robi666,

Yours comes with to much baggage attached, a nice clean one is better and worth more I feel.

docwilliam says on Apr 20, 2008, 18:02:

GIB is still here, he is just under several different names.

"There's no time to panic"

Rikito says on Apr 20, 2008, 18:03:

If you open up to new PBHrs I think you should also clean out some of the skeletons.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

adrimm says on Apr 20, 2008, 18:31:

Actually while I have mixed feelings about exclusivity, I had noticed that things were definitely calmer and friendlier again.

george jung says on Apr 20, 2008, 18:41:

Maybe quieter and calmer, but still posters from Jerksville.

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble" anonymous woman

Frank Rizzo says on Apr 20, 2008, 19:25:

Hey George Jung...I loved that part in the movie where they couldn't find anywhere to put the money...the whole house was full of cash...and they had to weigh it to tell how much cash was there..........

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:20:

Hey Robi666.....YOU'D HAVE TO PAY ME to take your handle... ja

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:46:

g_s, what if i change the picture?

Rubito says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:50:

I like it better here now to tell the truth. Peter really needs to get off his DIY kick and get REAL forum software installed here. Then you wouldn't have such a problem.

Morph, ME a mod here??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHwhew let me catch my breath.....

HAHAHAHA

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:52:

That's what I was thinkn... JAJAAjajajajajajjjjjajjajaja!jejejejejjjjjjeejeeje!

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:53:

Robi, ... what if you'd change the picture to what?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:53:

No, Robi... you'd have to go back and delete ALL OF YOUR CHIT!

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 21:55:

It will be an hard work... tell me, where to start with?

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 22:16:

neva mind... how 'bout YOU JUST PAY ME!

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

robi666 says on Apr 20, 2008, 22:19:

From a barrel of shit to another barrel... just a bigger one? No thanks.

goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 22:25:

Like I said: they got us OVA DE BARREL. you're right.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Robert Jorge says on Apr 20, 2008, 23:42:

I have met several people who are originally from Colombia, living in the US, who checked this site out. (I told them about it) They couldn't join and participate - so they are examples of potential good members who are forever lost. They got bored.

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 21, 2008, 00:02:

I had the same experience RJ. Two college buddies and one co-worker of mine (Colombians here in NYC) tried it out but had the same issue.

I agree that it shoudl be open. But then again I'm not in charge. Plus I think those in charge like the whole power thing. Im not sure. I think they dont mean any harm and are good people but they do go beyond whats necesssary I believe.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Robert Jorge says on Apr 21, 2008, 00:25:

I don't blame anybody really for the current situation - because I don't know who really is to blame. Peter says no new members for now, because of the bad trolling we had last year. I can definitely appreciate that. But on the other hand, it smothers and stops the growth of the site. The site actually shrinks over time. It sounds corny, but PBH is actually pretty important as a source of information for the thousands of people discovering or interested in Colombia. I discovered PBH, because I Google searched "fiance visa Colombia" 2 years ago. PBH threads came right up with the search. Google darn near anything with Colombia in it, and there will be a PBH hit.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 05:11:

*Loid, isn't CtgBound also American/gringo? If not, then how did you know?

Of course, I'll delete also his multiple handles or ask him to choose one of them like I've asked everybody who I have found out with more than one handle. I don't delete accounts for that reason, though, until the matter has been discussed.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

morphus says on Apr 21, 2008, 05:23:

Desi says she does'nt particularly like like or dislike Americans. Sounds anti-American to me...LOL

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 05:27:

Does it now, Morphus? It was meant to sound neutral.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Peter (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 05:39:

Good stuff dudes.

Indeed, we have plenty of stuff to fix here. And I will open this forum again, before the year is over. But not today or next week.

I want PBH to be here for the long run. If we come back in 20 years it should still be running, and still be happening, and we can reconnect with old friends and all that. And laugh at how dumb we were when we were young. So if I take things slow sometimes it´s partly because I also have a life and can´t spend all my time on pbh, and partly because I want to do things right and evolve the site slowly. Hang in there!

Poor but snappy

Albatross says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:07:

As my college advisor would say when I proposed a radical redesign: "Evolution, not Revolution".
(I still prefer Revolution)

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:16:

let's go on strike!!!! heheheh

vicshere says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:20:

kat---rubble rozer

listo

robi666 says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:25:

kat, are you organizing a mods strike? Is it because of Desi's Mercedes?

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:28:

yes, she got tthe top of the range one, mine is tunning on vegetable oil...

rubble rozer? what does it mean?

slguy says on Apr 21, 2008, 06:32:

i think he meant rabble rouser - you know, like Hugo, a person who gets relatively uneducated folk all stirred up by spouting BS.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

RAAAY says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:21:

I think I will start my own PBH site.........it will not be open to new members.........just me........I will have many user names and loads of interesting posts............

I will just sit here with my few beers and have long facinating conversations with myself. There will be many rules. If any of my user names break the rules..........even once.......ZAP ZAP ZAP.......instantly booted off.

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

robi666 says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:23:

Will you be able to put users on ignore on that board, Ray?

RAAAY says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:24:

Is Robi posting on this thread.....??

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:30:

yes he is, he just said you are a gorgeous looking guy, is that true?

robi666 says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:32:

Please Kat, Ray is always stalking me on this board, can you delete his account? It is about time...

RAAAY says on Apr 21, 2008, 09:06:

Kat......." he just said you are a gorgeous looking guy, is that true? "

Yes Kat,,,,,,,,,this is true. I am constantly being molested by girls, here in Medellin. They keep asking me for Abraham Lincon..............I don't quite know what they mean. There is a place I go for lunch...........the poor girls have very little clothes. They have to keep swinging off these poles to keep warm. I usally apply some dollar bills to them, to try and ward off the cold.

They always seem to like me. I presume it is because I must be " gorgeous looking guy "

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

robi666 says on Apr 21, 2008, 09:08:

You forgot to tell her about when you go sitting in front of the schools...

static says on Apr 21, 2008, 09:28:

I had no idea that the forum was closed to new members. This is forum suicide!

It needs to be re-opened as soon as possible.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 09:49:

The border is close at the moment, new members have to ask for an appointment, then they will be invite to through a rigorous interview, after that we will take the decision.
If is a friend, or family member we need letter of recommendation from the sponsor, he will be issue with a invitation visa afterwards he/she can apply for a permanent one :)))))

cali373 says on Apr 21, 2008, 10:20:

YES REALLY!

Smile if you are a thinker!

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 12:31:

funny shtuffff,... kat1!

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

nueva york bombero says on Apr 21, 2008, 12:36:

"we will take the decision"
So you are in charge around here..........

slguy says on Apr 21, 2008, 12:43:

kat's in charge, wherever she goes. this is news to you, NYB? ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

nueva york bombero says on Apr 21, 2008, 13:02:

I thought she denied it, but she slipped just now....
Ms. Kat runs shit around here....

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 13:13:

nah i don't i am just messing around

MountainTop says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:45:

I agree with the other poster who wants kat1 as a moderator. With an outfit like that, she must have a good sense of humor. Bye the way, I was angry when Mich didn't include you in his list of best looking females. You are number 1 on my list. If you ever leave your husband, and are into broke-ass geeky white dudes, I hope you let me submit my resume.

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:53:

(I don't think) Kat's into broke assed dudes of any color ;-o)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

dwr says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:59:

If that photo is really Kat and I believe it is, she is really pretty. Anway. Open PBH to the world already.

dwr says on Apr 21, 2008, 15:01:

Did I cross the line giving a compliment? sorry! Please don't delete me as I won't be able to get a new name.

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:10:

there's no premium, on used names from pbh. yet.
You could buy one for a nickle. I bet.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

CatGirl says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:17:

GS - Someone mentioned Ebay at one time - LOL

ooops! ....Did I say that?

slguy says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:26:

i guess i screwed up by not getting several pre-embargo. won't happen again! ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Juanes says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:28:

i never knew it wasnt open to neuvos miembros.........thats tonto really..

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:29:

mountain is mad b/c i didnt include kat1 on my list? jaja thats funny bro.

ive always complimented her and most females on pbh. pay attention man!!

but in case you missed it i sent her some:

recently... as i did to the other sexy queens of pbh.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

CatGirl says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:44:

Mitch....you are always good to us gals....we appreciate it very much too - Besos

ooops! ....Did I say that?

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:52:

its easy with you sexy ladies.

but your welcome linda.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

CatGirl says on Apr 21, 2008, 16:54:

See how you are?...you make me blush..

ooops! ....Did I say that?

MountainTop says on Apr 21, 2008, 17:25:

Oh my gosh you aren't buying his shallow flattery. Look at his photo? It screams mujeriego!!!

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 21, 2008, 17:43:

Moutainboy stop hating!!

Ive never publicized myself as anything but a mujeriego. But I have yet to ask any of the mentioned ladies out or made any proposition. So relax!!

What you probably dont know is that in Colombian, "Los paisas" like me are known for how we speak to our beautiful women. Since we are raised we are taught the whole " A una mujer se le habla como un princessa, se le trata como una reina, y no se toca ni con un petalo de una rosa".

As for my picture... her name is Jessica Cediel. She is one of the most beautiful colombianas on television. Google her up. I will even give you a link so you can enjoy some of her recent pics in soho (Colombian playboy magazine):

http://www.soho.com.co/home.aspx

Anyways......as my young teenage brother says " "Dont hate, Participate!!"

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

MountainTop says on Apr 21, 2008, 18:17:

It is Mountain Top first of all. Second, I am not hating. Third, you don't talk to all the women the same. The more attractive the girl the nicer you are to them.

As for Jessica Cediel, if she is one of the most beautiful colombianas on tv, why do you only have a photo of her butt. I like a good onion just as much as the next guy But every once in a while, you have to show a little substance. Maybe it is just a maturity problem in you case.

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 18:40:

I thought Tiger was 'De Man'... but...
You De Man, Mitch!

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Lisa Zee says on Apr 21, 2008, 19:27:

What Mich is a:........ gentlemen, un caballero!.

webmanco says on Apr 21, 2008, 19:33:

Mitch the new Elmo? LF?

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 21:00:

LF??
que es?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

webmanco says on Apr 21, 2008, 21:15:

Lucas Freily

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 21, 2008, 21:33:

GoingSouth: No..........YOUUUUUUUU the man brother!!

Lisa: Thank you linda.

Mountain Top: I put that picture up after re-reading the new rules peter put up. Trust me i have a much better picture of jessica to put up. I have plenty of pics from my recent trip to medellin with woman you might just only see in your dreams. But brother im not here to argue with you. Just follow up in my past and future comments and youll see that i speak to all women the same. They merit special treatment because w/o their existence we really aint shit. God bless them all.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 22:01:

wellllll.. looks like, with Peter's implication that it is goin to be a very long time - "sometime this year" - to reopen the forum for new members,.... Looks like he must be trying to eliminate any questions about 'who is de man'.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

eywed says on Apr 22, 2008, 00:42:

How about you dont get in without a reconmendation from say a member who has been on over 1 year.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

morphus says on Apr 22, 2008, 06:23:

I have 5 PBH handles for sale $100 each :)

uiu8787

gringoloid says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:38:

Desi, thanks for not addressing my points and also for deleting my motorcycle thread when you said you were just going to demote it. (the reason being you want to cover up the evidence of the bias so that you don't have contradictions with how you treat americans versus anyone else.)

Also thanks for deleting another american last week by the name of Mark Anthony for absolutely no reason than to delete another right wing american.

I've never met him face to face but through daily PM's I think I got to know him pretty well and there is no doubt he is no more a racist than anyone else around here and probably less.

Also, I never asked for anyones account to be deleted, including ctg bounds 4 accounts. I only asked that americans be treated no differently than anyone else. I enjoy making a fool out of fools as long as it's not during the day when I'm trading FOREX.

So another american gets deleted when you say you're not deleting people. My post gets deleted so you can cover your tracks instead of eliminating the gibberish and letting us carry on with the complicated process of importing parts into Colombia.

gringoloid says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:38:

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Desi, i have to crack up laughing everytime i notice your tagline.

gringoloid says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:48:

My favorite poster right from the beginning was Elmo. He doesn't post like he used to and I wonder why.

I know I would never get a straight answer out of him as he is always kidding around but if people weren't afraid of the truth, and if elmo was to get serious, I bet he would be validating my statements.

You say that UTC and G5 left because they were tired of this, or something. if you look at their last comments, it's very clear why they left.

of course, you can run this like a european, left-wing, IM/AIM service if you want, it's your site and fully half of the comments fit something that belongs on MSN Messenger. but to wreck a site because of the left wing bigotry........is quite sad.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:52:

*Loid, you are not going to believe me, but it was an accident. (The deletion of your motorcycle thread). I wanted to see if a demoted thread could be activated again and tried to remove it from demoted to off-topic and lost it instead.

Now, about mark anthony....I don't delete people for being right-wingers. This guy was a racist. I can send you the proof privately, if you don't believe me.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

RAAAY says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:58:

Could we please delete all Americans...........actually, perhaps it would be a good idea to also delete all Italians, and everybody else, that does not come from Ireland.

The site should then be re-named to PPBH..................Paddies Poor But Happy.

Then...us Irish lads could have deep meaningfull exchanges about beer and titties.

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

kalder says on Apr 22, 2008, 08:00:

Titties? Makes sense.

I pity any 'leg men' living in Ireland.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

RAAAY says on Apr 22, 2008, 08:06:

Kalder...........We would allow Englishmen in for short visits. We