Is this close to the archeological reserve?

p0gue says on Nov 1, 2006, 21:05:

If they attacked the town of
If they attacked the town of Tierradentro itself, then yes, very near the park. This really sucks. TD is one of the sleepiest, nicest little places you can imagine and the people are the best. Fantastic scenery, nice ruins. What the f*** did the FARC want with them? Doubly tragic cause they were just starting to get some tourists in there after years of tranquil safety.

litost says on Nov 2, 2006, 05:11:

Tierradentro archeological site is in southern Colombia, departamento del Cauca. The attack was in a town with the same name in the departamento de Cordoba.

juancegomez says on Nov 2, 2006, 08:48:

Haven't been to that area though So I can't answer the main question...but that's already been taken care of, apparently.

By the way, it would seem that the "paracos" aren't going to be too happy about this, since the area has long been under their influence, and they had at least partially demobilized their apparatus there.

utopiacowboy says on Nov 2, 2006, 09:53:

This is in the southern mountainous part of Cordoba which is surrounded by Antioquia. This part of Cordoba has always been a disputed area. Here is the article from El Meridiano which includes a map showing the location: http://www.elmeridianodecordoba.com/jueves/JUDICIAL/JUDICIAL.HTM

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juancegomez says on Nov 2, 2006, 10:37:

Tinto and UC It's been a disputed one, yes, but in general the dispute seemed to be settling in favor of the paramilitaries, strategically if not always locally, so it's not that much of a leap to say that yes, this is going to piss them off.

It may be the more disputed side of their backyard, I don't deny that, but it's still closer to their house than something at the other side of town, so to speak.

In fact, some of the paramilitaries were actually physically present in this specific area during the demobilizations, if I recall correctly. So even if their control was not absolute in all of Córdoba, it's still within their sphere of influence, as far as I know.

cali373 says on Nov 2, 2006, 12:08:

p0gue Lets think about that for a moment, if you remove the FARC,ELN,AUC, colombian military, government,the oligarchy, and any U.S. influence any place in colombia would be the nicest little place with the best people.

Smile if you are a thinker!

juancegomez says on Nov 2, 2006, 12:38:

cali373 Maybe, who knows, perhaps other problems would persist because those aren't the only elements I'd list, but I'd prefer to set realistic goals.

Utopia is nice, but it's not realistic.

Sr Tertius says on Nov 2, 2006, 13:20:

cali "if you remove the FARC,ELN,AUC, colombian military, government,the oligarchy, and any U.S. influence" ... Colombia would be largely empty... I don't know if that is good or bad, though. I side with juancegomez on this: I think that these elements are constitutive of Colombia (ok, maybe not the US influence) and we have to deal with them.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

Sr Tertius says on Nov 2, 2006, 13:44:

Paramilitaries in Cordoba Seems to me that the influence of the paramilitaries in the departmental government of Cordoba was first evidenced when the department changed its name from CordoVa (which refers to General Jose Maria Cordova, who appears in the coat of arms of the department) to CordoBa. My guess is that someone thought the name was mispelled. Only the paracos would do something as atrocious as that. Does anyone know this incident in better detail? Maybe your wife, UC?

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juancegomez says on Nov 2, 2006, 15:52:

Sr Tertius I don't know if you're serious about that, but I wouldn't know.

Google seems to show plenty of results for both José María CórdoBa and José María CórdoVa.

Seems like one of them is a common spelling error / alternative spelling, but I don't think its origin needs to be sinister in nature.

Early 1800's Spanish, by the way, often used slightly different spellings, wordings or phrasings here and there, and perhaps at least some of them were later changed for stylistic reasons, since "Córdoba" apparently became the accepted international spelling for other places so named (in Argentina and Spain, for example).

Again, doesn't seem that sinister to me, but that's what little I know.

utopiacowboy says on Nov 2, 2006, 19:14:

I did ask my wife about this and her answer is typical. She said it was changed by a governor whose name she could not remember but who had a homosexual son. It was within the last 25 years while she was living in Medellin. She says many people continue spelling the name as Cordova.

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