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Is there a real democracy in Colombia? 'Departamento Administrativo de Seguridad'

Not enough with ParaPolitica, now a Government entity with not so ethical acts.

There is not excuse in saying that fraud in elections or that manipulation by buying votes, forcing towns to vote for any given Politician happens in most countries. We are in Colombia and it seems we got way too many rocks on the road to a fair election.

Guerrilleros, Parmilitares, nowdays DMG, maybe expatriates are a few of the actors in manipulating the Presidencial election, supposely the root of a democray.

If killings of sindicalistas, falsos positivos, guerrilleros, paramiliares corrupted politicians, forced exilio, war, litlle investment in education and not creation of legal jobs, are signs of a well run country then we must be doing something wrong.

Call me paranoid but at last marches last year I took many pictures, in one instance I saw a guy taking me a pictures and he seemed to be taking pictures mostly of other photographers, I would no doubt it was apointed by Goverment entity or even Guerrilla.

Un 'manual' para seguir y acosar a personas calificadas como opositores tenía el DAS

http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/un-manual-para-seguir-y-acos...

Foto: Mauricio Moreno / EL TIEMPO

Magistrados de la Corte Suprema se negaron a tener escoltas del DAS, por temor a seguimientos.

Hasta el punto de indagar en sus vidas privadas para buscar 'vicios' o 'amantes', y tomar fotos de sus hijos, llegó la oscura organización que se creó en el organismo en el 2005.

El 'manual' aparece detallado en una de las 103 carpetas que la actual administración del DAS le entregó a la Fiscalía y que fueron elaboradas por el Grupo de Inteligencia G-3, creado durante la administración de Jorge Noguera y coordinado por su entonces asesor José Miguel Narváez.

"Ubicaron a padres y cónyuges de miembros de ONG nacionales y extranjeras; fotografiaron a hijos de defensores de derechos humanos y hasta escribieron grafittis amenazantes en las paredes cercanas a la casa del entonces viceministro Andrés Peñate, porque creían que era un conspirador", asegura uno de los investigadores del caso.

'No sacrifique a su hija'

Todo indica que fueron ellos quienes le enviaron a Zoraya Gutiérrez, directiva del Colectivo de Abogados José Alvear, una muñeca salpicada con sangre y la nota: "Usted tiene una hija muy linda, No la sacrifique...".

El mensaje llegó a su oficina a mediados de mayo del 2005, cuando su hija apenas cumplía siete años.

http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/un-manual-para-seguir-y-acos...

By webmanco on Jun 14, 2009, 08:27 in Politics & the war.

jackh4u says on Jun 14, 2009, 08:34:

For many years now. The electronic voting system has its own built in fraud system. It has been tested and proven to be corrupt. But, still used!! In independent tests people voted for what they wanted but due to the bug planted in it the final results did not match the input. So, now a days with all the "advancement in technology", you no longer need to point guns at the city or town. They just smile as people vote, but the out come is pre-determined!

Paper ballots, counted by at least 2 different organizations is about the closest way to a true vote.

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webmanco says on Jun 14, 2009, 08:43:

Jack4u
The electronic voting system has its own built in fraud system

I would say media manipulation plays a big role in getting people voting for the wrong candidate without any of the illegal ways listed above.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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jackh4u says on Jun 14, 2009, 08:56:

Yes. People all over the world are sheep. They are to lazy to do the right thing. Or to afraid. Many drones just do what they are told and not think for themselves or have an original thought. Many I know here talk about how corrupt the governments are here, how they steal all the money, but none, I mean NONE of them will do anything about it. Sorry, but people are to stupid and afraid of the "consequences" to do the right thing! Wrong is wrong. It will have to get so bad that some of the sheep wake up and FINALLY want to do something about it. But, by then it will be to late as the DRAGON has gotten to big and powerful to cut the head off.

We are in a sad state all over the world. That is why ALL the governments around the world are working to DE-ARM the people. Because when the sheep do get a brain and see what HAS happened, they do not want them to have guns to get the crooks in all forms of government to pay for their sins. People had better wake up or the human race is doomed!

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dwmte7 says on Jun 14, 2009, 10:50:

ha ha ha ha ha ha....ho ho ho.....har har har har. oh my belly.

patriarch

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 14, 2009, 12:36:

Webmanco

How many violent death were in 2001 per year in Colombia?
How many people got kidnapped?
How many schools have been build?
How many foreign investment and more legal jobs were created?
How many people were unprotected (police stations and military) villages which were attacked by guerilla?
How many villages were attacked in 2001 from Guerilla?

And believe me I can go on with much further things.

Just a view points what colombians are thinking, and that's important.

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webmanco says on Jun 15, 2009, 22:42:

http://serefina.co.uk/post/112932453/carnival-feb-21st-2009

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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Chriscan (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 16, 2009, 16:29:

Anyone who wants to build a school is a commie

Beam me up Scotty; No intelligent life here.

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