Is it easy to buy drugs in Cali?

Colombitaliano says on Sep 29, 2006, 10:48:

One more point to clear up Please do not give people excact instructions on how to commit illegal activities, or encourage it. And please don't give out people's names. Remember drugs are an illegal industry for the most part (we're not talking cough syrup here). This forum is for the purposes of research and information only to satisfy peoples curiosity, let's not be bait people, thank you.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 29, 2006, 10:58:

yeah it's really easy to buy an aspirin in Cali. They sell them at every drugstore in Cali.

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Colombitaliano says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:06:

Thank you Desideria Thank you for your input Desideria. Your humour, though predictable, is appreciated. Thank you also for the Kobi Yamada quote, it is a quote I agree with, but can you please clear up the perspective from which you place the quote, so I know which particular relevance it bears on this forum, thanks again, great first comment.

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:18:

Do you want to buy drugs in bulk quantities or do you want the bulk of the conversation to be about Cali?



"For example, if you replace the word Cali with Medellin, my answer would be no. But for the sake of this forum can we stick to Cali please, at least in bulk anyway."

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:31:

Columbitaliano I'm glad you appreciate my humour. (Predictable or not)
The Kobi Yamada quote is my signature and only relates to myself, has no bearing at all to the forum.
I have a problem with your thread and I'll be honest about it: Cali has enough problems right now without getting the additional stigma as the drug city of Colombia.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Colombitaliano says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:36:

Thank You Tinto Yes thank you Tinto, to clear that up, I would prefer the bulk of the conversation to be about Cali. And take you back to the point that this forum is aimed at the diversity of my question and it's openness. I would not like to pinpoint any particular amount of purchase or any particular level of dealings with or within the illegal drug industry, I just wish for people to claim how they feel the illegal drug industry has particularly effected, changed or affirmed their own experience of Cali, in any way, shape or form, thank you, well spotted.

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panthdave says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:45:

Wanted to Visit Cali but thinking about it now.... I visit Medellin mostly but wanted to see Cali but now I don't know been in Miami 22 years and had enough of the drug scene..In Medellin did not see much but probably is there too.. Anyways sorry bringing up other cities and agree with Desi have alittle problem with this thread

No offense If so Honest mistake...posting this comment...


panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

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Colombitaliano says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:54:

To Desideria I apologise for mistaking your signiture as part of your comment. I fully understand your point about the stigma Cali has recieved for many years, and I'm sorry if you're offended by the subject of this forum. I don't wish to patronise you, because to me, you seem to be an intelligent person, who is strong enough to hold their own view, and express this view, but you've got to look at every angle of a subject approached (this website being dedicated to Columbia, this forum being dedicated to Cali), and unfortuneately in my experience, drugs are very much a part of Cali. Whether you agree or not, again sorry if you're offended by the manner of this forum, but please respect that this is a subject that will bear relevance to some people, regardless of how it does to yourself. Talking about it won't increase the problem to any noticeable degree, and not approaching the subject will not make it go away. I must also add that I value your opinion, because your comment is within the subject matter of this forum, and is a well constructed, intelligent comment, from the heart, that accurately conveys your feelings on the subject matter in hand.

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Colombitaliano says on Sep 29, 2006, 11:58:

Panthdave No offence taken, your comment is relevant. Only you can decide whether to visit Cali or not. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't. Enjoy yourself either way.

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 29, 2006, 13:34:

Por que? I guess I don't agree with the premise that, with regards to Cali, "I believe that drugs feature high on the agenda of the overall picture."

I won't argue that drugs (or more specifically drug trafficking) have put Cali, and Colombia as a whole, in the spotlight. Drug trafficking is also a factor in Cali's rise and fall in terms of it's current state of disrepair (along with corruption, etc.) But that is different from the effect or the significance of any individual transaction.

While drug trafficking might be a big part of Cali's history as a city, I don't think that it's necessarily has to be a part of anyone's visit. I've traveled many times to Mexico, Costa Rica, and Colombia and never had any encounter with drugs or drug trafficking. At the same time, I've also been aware that if I made the right hand or eye gesture, I could have as much of either as I wanted (or more).

So, if you don't want to name names or street corners or whatever, I guess I don't see the point to this thread. In just about any country or city, you're rarely more than two or three people away from someone who'll sell you some form of chemical diversion.

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vladimiro says on Sep 29, 2006, 14:51:

Drugs in Colombia Its very convenient to buy drugs in Colombia. I usually stock up on some drugs in Colombia before going back to the US, because there are so many hoops to jump through just to get basic medical care in the US. In Colombia I usually don't need a doctor's prescription fo rdrugs I want and when I do it only takes ten minutes to pop into a doctors office and get one. In the US, first you fight for a doctor's appointment, then you must take time off work to wait for hours in a doctor's office, then you must justify at length for something so simple as higher doses of Ibupofren or Ambien sleeping pills, then you play phone tag with the pharmacy and the doctor's office for a week just to get refills. Anything to do with medicine is much less hassle than in the US.

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famsearch says on Sep 29, 2006, 15:31:

as for buying in bulk... in medellin, i was able to buy a whole bottle (100 tab.) of aspirin, in of all places, exito!
dan

dan

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poco says on Sep 29, 2006, 18:07:

For less than a co-pay Most drugs are less money

Yes they are less,, but there is one problem,, do the drugs contain the prescribed amount of medicine,, or any medicine for that matter ?

Counterfeit drugs are prevalent in the U.S. so I'd assume the problem is even larger in the world capital of counterfeiting.

Viagra,, hummmm I wonder how many deaths are attributed to taking counterfeit drugs ?

I’d recommend herbal cures in Colombia. The leaves of this tree in my yard will dull the pain of a toothache while waiting for a dentist appointment.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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caslug says on Sep 29, 2006, 19:47:

colombia's is like many countries..re: drugs.. if u want to find it, you'll find it..
if u NOT looking for it, IT(drugs) WONT find YOU!

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Colombitaliano says on Sep 30, 2006, 06:53:

Some interesting comments coming in Thank you everyone, some interesting comments are coming in, it's only fair I say my piece. I agree particularly with seanjuan00 & caslug, and thank you to vladimiro and poco for a different slant on the matter, and thank you to famsearch for picking up on Desideria's earlier joke, and thank you to Crazy4Cali for your intelligent comment. If I wanted I could buy a kilo of cocaine in Cali for the less than the price I'd pay for an ounce in the UK, I don't have to affirm the high quality. There are trustworthy people who would offer there services to carry it for a free holiday, but I would decline, because I would prefer covert measures, rather than using carriers, I'm not going to tell you those covert measures, and when I'm in the uk I could make a 1000% profit relatively quickly

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 30, 2006, 13:14:

I s'ppose it should be easy to buy drugs in any city, in USA, in Europe or in Colombia. I don't think Cali is anything to be singled out as a major drug capital of the world.

Yes, you are doing Cali a disservice, gringo, as the city struggles to get rid of some bad karma it has attracted in this past decade. And no, it doesn't deserve all that bad rap it's getting here. It's not half that dangerous or dodgy as you people make it look like.

I spent three months in Cali, not that long ago, and I wasn't approached once with an offer to buy drugs. So, I guess the drug dealers know what their customers look like. The drugs either find you or hide away from you, depending on who you are.

Cheers,
Desi



«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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aztec says on Oct 1, 2006, 04:17:

Desi... ...as you may know, my wifes family (brother and niece)are in the medical profession there in Cali. The US government has given temporary asylum to her niece because of extortion and death threats to her son.

I could share more stories about contacts with Gilberto and Miguel Rodriguez-Orejuela . The two brothers accused of running Colombia's notorious Cali cocaine cartel who have recently plead guilty. However, it is way too dangerous to the family and even to me here in the States to say anything.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Oct 1, 2006, 05:05:

yes aztec I've been following the Rodriguez Orejuela and Cali Cartel case in the media and I believe that the Cartel and drug maffias are directly responsible for the economical stagnation and social decay of that city. That's why I have a problem with this thread; not because of some drugheads need to get their fix and fun somewhere, I'd just that they'd go somewhere else.

No, I didn't know about your wife's family, aztec.

No gringo, (the Don part has to be earned), I didn't stay home much when I was in Cali. We were out and drove around the neighbourhoods most of the time, visited malls and restaurants and the outlying areas like the Carretera al Mar, La Cumbre and Jamundí. Of course, a large portion of my time went to the reparations of my house there, either buying material or just supervising the workmen, but no, I wasn't hiding anywhere within four walls and yet saw just a few traffic accidents, a police chasing somebody who had stolen a motorcycle, almost witnessed a robbery at my netcafe ... I was not offered drugs nor saw I anybody doing drugs blatantly at streetcorners, but then again, I wasn't looking for that.

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Colombitaliano says on Oct 1, 2006, 06:37:

Agree with both Both Desi and DonGringo make very different comments about Cali, but I would have to say they're both right. It's all a question of who you are, and what you're doing. Everyone is prejudiced to a certain degree, it's human nature, it's been programmed into our DNA since we were running round with sticks and stones and painting cave walls. We all have an acute sense of body language and facial expression, which aids in the decision process when meeting people, treating people, or encountering people, I believe this is how patterns repeat themselves when in particular places etc. Part of that DNA also helped us hunt, when we were scanning the horizon for food, we would particularly spot what resembled our fancy. Human society has evolved beyond that now, but those same basic processes remain as part of our genetic make-up. This is why different people or places present themselves differently to any other particular person, and probably will continue to do so. And the same part of this DNA that helps us learn (eg. caveman discovers fire, burns himself, so he's very careful in future) cements our view of a place into our programming.

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Sam Salmon says on Oct 1, 2006, 21:46:

OK I Confess! I too bought drugs in Colombia-Naproxen and Ibuprofen both.

Sitting hunched in cars/planes made for much smaller people than my self aggravated an old neck injury and I succumbed to the lure of cheap Colombian pharmaceuticals.

So shoot me!

As to Marijuana it's much more common here in Vancouver-judging from the smell much more powerful as well.

' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

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charlie says on Oct 1, 2006, 22:23:

cali I totally agree with you caslug, I believe and I know that we should only stick with cali but it wouldn't be fare to mention that drugs are easy to aquire in every city around the world. Colors were invented for a reason as well as drugs. Thouse who do not like them stay away and stop criticizing but, those who love them enjoy.Lov & Peace

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goin_south says on Oct 1, 2006, 23:47:

Necesito Nada; solamente mi Colombiana.

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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gabo4ever says on Oct 2, 2006, 06:23:

The smoking of weed in public... DGringo you mention that it was shocking for you to see the openess with which the above was done, well here in London it is all too common to see the smoking of weed in public places. Since the government moved the classification of weed from a Class B drug to Class C (legal to consume privately but not to sell) you cannot go a day without smelling weed being smoked! So does that make London a drug capital and provide reasonable cause fot it to be labelled one? I dont think so.

Whilst I agree Cali has got its problems with Drugs, I can vouch for the simple rule in life that if you dont go looking for it, you wont find it. Whilst there are inevitable circumstances in which the above saying is not an absolut rule, you must take into consideration the factors such as friends and locations, as to why drungs were put in your way.

I grew up in Cali, head there at least once a year for vacation, I can honestly say that in terms of drugs consumption I have seen more drugs being consumed and passed aroung here in London, than Colombia!

You do see a lot more traquetos (obviously) but ultimetely it is up to you whether you are involved in any way with them. Long gone (hopefully) are the 80's and 90's era when traquetos went into a club and picked the girls they wanted for that night, whether they were with a boyfriend or not, and you were left dead on the floor if you said otherwise.

So Cali has done a lot to clear up its drug image, what it dont help is people heading down there, looking for something which they clearly havent lost, getting in trouble and then claiming they had a bad experience and recomending other people no to go there!

If you are heading to Cali for drugs, make sure your prepared for what you experience!

Att. Gabo

La Felicidad es un Don o simplemente una reaccion?

Y por si se atreven: Watsamatamaracuya?

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EdgarL says on Oct 4, 2006, 07:09:

HELP! With Military Card Question. My girlfriend Claudia is a Colombiana here in the U.S. She is the plaintiff in a lawsuit against an acquaintance, also originally from Colombia and now here in the U.S., who has stolen money from her and her family (long story). I think the defendant has pulled many scams but has covered his tracks well. Claudia is seeking to prove some of his bad activities to damage his credibility. One of the things Claudia suspects the defendant somehow (illegally?) got a Colombian military card (possibly with the help of someone within the Col. military). He moved here just before he turned 18 and eventually got residency then citizenship, but he never served in the Col. military. Did he need to show proof of serving in the military before U.S. residency/citizenship would be granted? Would this "proof" of military service be in his "A" file? What questions, and to who, can Claudia ask to get to the bottom of this issue? Thank you in advance for your responses. Any help is greatly appreciated. With love, Edgar

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EdgarL says on Oct 4, 2006, 07:10:

Sorry I meant to make a new post. I'll do that now.

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Colombitaliano says on Oct 5, 2006, 09:21:

gabo4ever I agree with what you're saying gabo, but weed was re-classified from B to C, not A to B. Everything you say about London is right, I walk down Oxford Street smokin a joint, through Brixton, Hackney, and wherever else, on the tube, in bars, guess that's the new reason for it being called the 'big smoke'. I've even got my own crops in South (ain't telling you where).

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oldbongo says on Oct 5, 2006, 20:03:

oldbongo is happy to report.. that: according to authorities, www.carbc.uvic.ca

sam is onto something...

would you beilieve,..53% of british colombians have smoked pot.
it is more popular than tobacco...
it generates 130 billion $$ a year here.
it's illegal.
it's ridiculous.

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Lostgringo says on Oct 5, 2006, 20:57:

Mexico Legalizes it All http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1146370431.shtml

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gabo4ever says on Oct 6, 2006, 04:05:

ColombiItaliano.. Thanks for the correction! Its funny to think in Colombia such a big deal is made of Weed Smokers "mariguaneros".

But like you said, here in London its the norm! Its definetly a money spinner!

Y por si se atreven: Watsamatamaracuya?

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Monpirri says on Oct 8, 2006, 13:53:

Lostgringo Everybody wants to jump into the Wagon$. Marijuana has been legal in several countries. Here’s an interesting article from 1988.

“German brewers don’t want beer to go to pot

Asbjoern Gerlach brews his beer with water, malted barley, yeast, hops – and marijuana. In Germany, that last ingredient raises eyebrows, but not for the reason you might think. Since 1996, low-tetrahydrocannabinol hemp has been legal in Germany and is now one of the country’s fastest-growing cash crops.
Gerlach, a 30-years-old brewer in Berlin’s rough-and-tumble Kreuzberg neighborhood, adds low-THC Cannabis sativa, the flowering buds of the hemp plant, as a flavoring in his brew. He’s been doing it on a small scale ever since hemp was legalized.
The police don’t care; the hemp in his beer is very low in the active ingredient people smoke marijuana for. But Germany’s image-conscious big brewers last month threatened to sue him. If Gerlach should lose in court, he could be fined $6,000 a bottle for violating the country’s beer-purity law. The Reinheitsgebot law, enacted in 1516, is one of the first consumer-protection measures in history. It requires that beer be made from malt, hops, yeast and water – and nothing else.”

Thursday, May 28, 1998
Wall Street Journal

I believe Marijuana is also legal in Arizona and California for medical purposes.
Only in Colombia, colombian mariguaneros are incarcerated for 100 years:)

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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