IPHONE has been Unlocked and Verified by a AP Reporter who used his T-Mobile Simchip and used the phone

panthdave says on Aug 25, 2007, 03:44:

Will be interesting how long it will it take to see the IPHONE on the streets of Colombia with the Comcel,Tigo,or Movistar Simchip

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panthdave says on Aug 25, 2007, 04:03:

you think i should bid by tomorrow night and bring to colombia and make a record profit..

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danronian says on Aug 25, 2007, 10:07:

Has anyone had luck unlocking the v3xx Razr here? I tried everywhere, and no luck....

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panthdave says on Aug 25, 2007, 10:29:

They should be...I have bought them unlocked.. but always in the States...Have you tried some Comcel subdealers in Centro Medellin usually they have people they can call and they will unlock the unit...if you buy the chip from them...

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miamimike says on Aug 25, 2007, 17:55:

I read in today's Miami Herald he has it on eBay and I think the Below ebay link is his Phone. The paper said the bidding was up to $3000 but the most expensive I see presently with active bidding is at $1000! He's a pretty clever innovative Kid at that!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPhone-AT-T-unlocked-will-work-with-any-sim_...

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panthdave says on Aug 25, 2007, 18:09:

Mike go to his blog he is having problems with Ebay he said and wants to take private bids via his blog tomorrow evening and also some kind of instructions are on his blog.

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danronian says on Aug 25, 2007, 22:45:

I havent been with my phone to Mendellin yet, but I went all over Bogota trying to get it converted with Comcel. What they've been telling me is the v3xx is still too new for them to have a software method to convert it. One place had it apart thinking they could stick a little part in it, like the normal razrs, but when i got back an hour later, they said it looked completely different inside, and couldnt fix it at all....that was the place that converted the look-alike to mine I saw someone using on the street here a few weeks ago.

I'm going to start looking on the internet for a fix...maybe there is a software unlock program I can get for it.

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miamimike says on Aug 25, 2007, 23:57:

PD-I wonder if it was only a listing problem or if eBay was purposely jinxing his Auction due the fact they thought he may have doing something illegal by selling this Unlocked phone that has received so much publicity.

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panthdave says on Aug 26, 2007, 05:18:

Its amazing though how tough they made to unlock this phone hardware and software fix...but I think its great this kid was on a mission AT&T trying to monopolize again with there money by making this unit for there network only....

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miamimike says on Aug 26, 2007, 10:29:

PD-The Kid is unbelieably clever and determined to say the least. He defeated what Apple & Iphone Engineers strived to make Tamper Proof (I would imagine). When he gets out of College, Apple should look this Kid up! LOL

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jarhead says on Aug 27, 2007, 11:02:

the kid sold the phone,(or traded it) for a brand new nissan 350z roadster, and 3 8gb i phones...there are 2 other ways to do a software unlock of the i phone now...the catch is.....AT&T notified these people right before they were to start selling the "unlock" online, that their ass would be sued if the unlock was released...so right now, the only way to unlock the i phone is via a sofware/hardware unlock..........I have some i phones in my office, and a couple of dorky Colombian techies standing by to unlock them.....everyone is in a "holding pattern" right now, awaiting the outcome of the AT&T legal action................

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Robert Jorge says on Aug 28, 2007, 01:14:

I agree Rubi - about the "shaky ground." But, maybe they feel it is a copyright issue, or a piracy issue - like when somebody gets Directv, and then gets a blackmarket chip to receive free programming. I don't know, but maybe this is what they are thinking. The copyright issue is probably what they would argue though.

Anyway, hats off to the kid. I am amazed at what people can do with their computers, cell phones, Sony Playstations, etc. I can't even figure out how to use my blue tooth function on my cell!

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jarhead says on Aug 28, 2007, 06:10:

Here is where all this unlock shit is going in the U.S....................

Hackers who unlock Apple's iPhone from the AT&T network and share the method with 10 million of their closest Internet friends are inviting a lawsuit from the two companies, several intellectual property (IP) lawyers said Monday.
Apple and AT&T may have a legal case against unlockers under the U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), especially if they try to sell software code or devices that unlock the iPhone, the lawyers said. But the legal landscape gets a bit complicated -- there's a legal exception to the DMCA's anticircumvention provisions that allows individual mobile phone users to unlock their devices for use on other networks.

So figuring out how to unlock the iPhone yourself is not likely to be a DMCA violation, most of the IP lawyers said. But posting instructions or code online, even for free, may earn you a cease-and-desist letter from an unfriendly lawyer, and selling software or a device that unlocks the phone is inviting trouble, most of the lawyers said.

But there's plenty of disagreement among IP lawyers about the interpretation of the DMCA.

"It's an extremely grey [area], because I don't think the exemption was altogether clear," said Bart Showalter, an intellectual property lawyer in Dallas with the Baker Botts LLP law firm. "The idea of trying to use copyright to, in a sense, establish exclusivity in a service contract ... is going to be an interesting thing to watch."

John McLaughlin, founder of Uniquephones, based in Belfast, Northern Ireland, had planned to release software Saturday that would allow users to unlock their iPhone. But early Saturday morning, McLaughlin said he received a phone call from a man saying he was from a law firm representing AT&T. The caller said McLaughlin could be sued for copyright infringement.

Two other groups have claimed to have unlocked the iPhone.

Representatives of both AT&T and Apple declined to comment Monday on possible legal actions against unlockers.

Showalter suggested that unlocking the iPhone and posting code or instructions for free would likely fall under the exception to the DMCA's anticircumvention provisions, thus protecting the unlocker from legal action.

The exception allows circumvention of device controls "for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network," according to language from the U.S. registrar of copyrights. So if a hacker unlocks the iPhone, then posts the unlocking code for free, he's engaging in a legal activity and enabling others to engage in the same legal activity, said Michael Lewis, an IP lawyer with Fox Rothschild LLP.

If that hacker is sued, he could probably argue that posting of the unlocking code is protected by free speech provisions in U.S. law, according to Lewis.

Other IP lawyers disagreed. Movie studios have successfully sued Web site operators for distributing the DeCSS DVD-copying code, noted Carole Handler, an IP lawyer with Foley and Lardner LLP. The unlocker of the iPhone who posts code online could be held liable for secondary copyright infringement, she said.

"I don't see that [Apple and AT&T] have a choice," Handler said. "They have to do something. If you don't protect your intellectual property, it's gone."

Lewis' colleague, Gerry Norton, agreed, saying the unlocking exception was narrowly written. "The exception was just for the end-user," he said.

Most of the lawyers agreed that selling software to unlock the iPhone, as McLaughlin was planning to do, would invite a lawsuit under the DMCA. "The courts seem to have less sympathy for people who are doing things to make a buck," Lewis said.

But there wasn't even unanimous agreement on the legal liability of selling unlocking software. If the software being distributed targeted only the network lock on the iPhone, the developer could have a defense, Showalter said.

"It does seem a little unusual to me that they say somebody can unlock their phone, but if someone tells them how to do it, that's a violation of the DMCA," he said. "If the software that's being sold is only doing the minimum amount that's necessary to allow it to interoperate with other services, you may have some support in the DMCA exception."

Beyond the legal questions about unlocking the iPhone, Apple and AT&T could face their own legal challenges, Handler said. The exclusive contract between the two companies could lead to an antitrust lawsuit if a competitor or customer could successfully argue there's no other device like the iPhone available on the market, she said.

"Consumers want new technology," she said. "This is the era of the consumer controlling the media. When the consumer is told he or she can't do something, they get pretty upset, and they start claiming conspiracy, antitrust, and the whole bit."

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jarhead says on Aug 29, 2007, 06:57:

no, Colombia is a free for all, I just did a hardware/software unlock on my phones, and I we put that info out there for all to use (in spanish) here in Colombia, I just found it interesting that with this particular product "they" reacted this way....I think this will set a precedent....from now on this is going to be the norm in the states

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an7ic says on Aug 31, 2007, 09:15:

I already have unlocked my iPhone in Colombia, check my blog ( http://iphonecol.blogspot.com ) and see the video that shows the iPhone working on the tree carriers here: TIGO, MOVISTAR and COMCEL.

Regards

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