Info on firearms

Gator says on Jul 16, 2006, 19:06:

Gun Club of Bogota Av 82 7-97 or make friends with a Colombian military officer. I usually go with my brother-in-law to one of the military ranges. Expensive to buy and expensive to shoot-mine are 9mm so I sponge of the military.


First, before you can even start, you need a cedula (Colombian ID card).

The legislative authority which regulates the possession of firearms by civilians is Industria Militar (INDUMIL). INDUMIL is also the legislative authority that regulates the sale of firearms and firearm supplies to civilians. Licencing Requirements:
You must meet the following requirements to be granted a licence to possess firearms:

Applicants must be over 18 years of age with full citizenship or have Colombian cedula; A form provided by Industria Militar must be duly completed; Duly authenticated photocopies of the applicant's identity card and police record must be presented; Proof of the need to possess weapons for the applicant's safety and protection must be provided; and medical certification of mental and physical fitness to use weapons must be presented; persons known to be suffering from chronic alcoholism, dependence on narcotic drugs or psychotropic drugs may not receive a permit and you must complete an approved firarms training course (certificado maneso de armas.)

I have no idea if the above requirements are still in force or accurate. I do not have a permit because I do not carry on my person-just keep in the house/apartment or, occasionally, in the car. I did ask my brother-in-law (retired military and at one time in his career was the military police commandant of the military district-Bogotá.)

His reply was if you are a gringo watch out but he also said the percentage of people who do have a firearm with them is very, very high. BTW, you shoot and kill someone with a gun and do not have a license there is a mandatory jail sentence of six months. This applies even if it is self defense.

I personally never want to have to say. "El cárcel es magnífico. Mucho mejor que me apartamento." (Nice jail you got. Much better than my apartment.) Are Colombian "jails bad? For a good idea I suggest you rent and watch closely the 1978 movie "Midnight Express."

Under Decree No. 3664 of 1984, article 1 provides for an imprisonment period of between one year and four years and confiscation of the weapon in cases of illegal carrying, transport, manufacture or distribution of firearms.



"SIC FRIATUR CRUSTUM DULCE. OBESA CANTAVIT."

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Gator says on Jul 16, 2006, 19:07:

Oops, double post. "SIC FRIATUR CRUSTUM DULCE. OBESA CANTAVIT."

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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platano says on Jul 16, 2006, 19:21:

"Midnight Express" The movie "Midnight Express" is about an experience in Turkey, not Colombia. I think the comparison is grossly inaccurate. Previously I have posted extensively on the benefits available to prisoners in Colombian prisons, including libraries, conjugal visits, and educational programs. I don't believe any of that was available in the Turkey prison in
Midnight Express. Therefore, watching that movie is only going to produce fear and is not going to accurately reflect the quality of care prisoners in Colombian prisons receive.

Colombia is committed to help you realize your social, family, work, and spiritual potential. This became law in Colombia in 1993 (Código Penitenciario y Carcelario (Ley 65 de 1993). It is part of what INPEC calls P.A.S.O. (Plan de Acción Sistema de Oportunidades).
INPEC will help you learn, too, so you can use your prison time constructively. The law mandates that you have access to various courses of study including natural sciences, environmental sciences, social sciences, history, geography, politics, art, ethics and human values, physical education, religious education, humanities, SPANISH, foreign languages, mathematics, and informatics. (Artículo 23 de la Ley General de Educación).

There are eight universities that allow you to study in their programs in Colombian prisons: Santo Tomas, Universidad Nacional Abierta y a Distancia (UNAD), Universidad del Valle, Corporación Universitaria del Caribe CECAR, Universidad Francisco De Paula Santander, Universidad del Tolima, Universidad del Quindío y la Universidad Católica de Risaralda.
plátano

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 16, 2006, 22:43:

There is also a separate permit to obtain if you wish to purchase and/or carry a 45cal. They only keep 9mm and 45 ammo in stock, and the military (via INDUMIL) is the only legal game in town.

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

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Gator says on Jul 17, 2006, 14:46:

As Usual... Platano is dead right-a six-months stay in La Modelo will most definitely show you just how much Colombia is committed to help you realize your social, family, work, and spiritual potential.

Platano wrote "You can use your prison time constructively. The law mandates that you have access to various courses of study including natural sciences, environmental sciences, social sciences, history, geography, politics, art, ethics and human values, physical education, religious education, humanities, SPANISH, foreign languages, mathematics, and informatics." ROTFLMAO big time.

I KNOW where "Midnight Express" took place so I don't need your help with my posts you “sabelotodo.”



"SIC FRIATUR CRUSTUM DULCE. OBESA CANTAVIT."

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 17, 2006, 15:29:

Midnight Express I actually know a guy who spent a whole year in a Turkish prison for alleged antiquities looting over a vase he had on his boat. He said it was NOTHING like Midnight Express and not that bad, well, considering you're deprived of your liberty and all that.

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platano says on Jul 17, 2006, 16:29:

Gator, stop your whining... I'm just trying to point out the positive side of Colombian prisons. I cite the law, I give facts, and all you can do is roll on the floor laughing? Here is an interview that illustrates what I am saying about Colombian prisons (INPEC) wanting to help you develop your potential.

This is an interview with one of the prisoners enrolled in an accounting program through Universidad de Valle:
ESTABLECIMIENTO: EPC. Cali Villahermosa
EDAD: 33 años
FECHA DE INGRESO: Abril 14 de 1997
CONDENA: 25 años – 9 meses
UNIVERSIDAD DONDE ESTUDIA: Universidad del Valle
CARRERA: Contaduría Pública 57
SEMESTRE: Ultimo

¿De dónde surgió la idea o la iniciativa para hacer estudios de educación superior en la cárcel?

El deseo de superación personal, por iniciativa propia y por supuesto del dragoneante de la sección educativa.

¿Qué hechos y/o situaciones le han facilitado su decisión de estudiar?

A nivel de la familia, el apoyo incondicional en aspectos importantes como comunicación con la universidad. A nivel personal, la disciplina constante en la labor estudiantil.

¿Cuál cree debe ser el aporte o la actitud de las instituciones de educación superior para promover más el acceso a la educación superior entre la población carcelaria?

Crear mecanismos de difusión con los cuáles los detenidos conozcan los programas que ofrecen las universidades y buscar la manera de que los detenidos accedan a la información necesaria para las tareas bien sea usando Internet u otro medio.plátano

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MedellinViking says on Jul 23, 2006, 05:59:

What to Study....Hmmmmm Maybe Botany Why Botany?

Because the 2 that I have know did 2 stints and afeter their second were killed and are pushing up daiseys. Which is because the families do not have the cremation money...

I have also heard that you are require to use an equal force in repelling an attack, as in you cannot use a gun against a knife. Anybody out the have the definitive on this?

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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