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In the Washington Times : FARC's uranium likely a scam

FARC's uranium likely a scam

By Kelly Hearn
March 19, 2008

Scientists studying a purported proposal by Colombian rebels to sell uranium for about $1 million a pound say the plan sounds like a scam.

The reason: Ordinary uranium can't be used in a nuclear weapon; it is a poor choice for a terrorist "dirty bomb"; and it is worth only about $100 a pound.

Colombian forces earlier this month seized a computer during a raid in Ecuador, in which an e-mail from a midlevel leader in the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) claimed to have access to "50 kilos of uranium," — about 110 pounds — from an arms supplier, and proposed to sell it at the exorbitant price.

Matthew Bunn, a nuclear specialist at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, and other scientists expressed skepticism about the proposal.

Mr. Bunn said the e-mail contains "considerable indications that a scam of some kind was involved, since the quoted price of $2.5 million per kilogram is roughly 10,000 times more than natural uranium is worth."

"To me, this suggests the FARC people dealing with the issue knew little about the subject," he said.

Mr. Bunn said the uranium likely available in Colombia or Ecuador is worth about $100 a pound.

The e-mail, dated Feb. 16, 2008, and translated by The Washington Times, is reportedly written by Edgar Tovar, a regional FARC commander, to Raul Reyes, a FARC leader who was killed in the March 1 raid.

It begins by recounting a litany of deaths, defections and plans for the Marxist guerrilla group. It then mentions financial difficulties befalling the group due to cocaine eradication efforts, presumably referring to joint U.S.-Colombian aerial spraying to kill coca plants.

"[The financial] situation remains difficult due to the eradication and fumigation," Tovar writes.

He then says "another of the issues is Uranium," telling of a man in Bogota named Belisario who "sells explosives that we prepare."

Tovar said the contacts "propose the sale of each kilo at $2.5 million and that they deliver and we look to see who to sell to, and that it should be a business [venture] with a government."

Tovar writes that his suppliers have 50 kilos (110 pounds) ready, "and they can sell much more; they have direct contact with those who have the product."

Ivan Oelrich, a chemist and physicist at the Federation of American Scientists, said it is unlikely the rebels are talking about uranium to make an atomic bomb.

Natural uranium is a heavy metal that is only slightly radioactive. However, it contains trace amounts of a rare isotope that will support the nuclear chain reaction of an atomic bomb.

Massive amounts — perhaps 100 times the amount FARC proposed selling — would be needed to extract enough of the rare isotope for one or two atomic bombs.

Moreover, the extraction process is highly technical, typically requiring thousands of connected centrifuges spinning at supersonic speeds for long periods of time.

"If it is regular uranium they are talking about, it would require a huge industrial task to convert into something that is bomb grade," said Mr. Oelrich.

An example often cited is Iran's attempt to enrich uranium, which would require 3,000 centrifuges continuously operating for nearly a year to produce enough material for one nuclear bomb.

Colombian officials speculated that the uranium offered by FARC could be used to make a so-called dirty bomb, in which conventional explosives are used to spread radioactive debris.

Even that would be unlikely, said Steve Kidd, of the London-based World Nuclear Association.

"In this form, [uranium] is only lightly radioactive and would be useless in a dirty bomb," Mr. Kidd said.

The e-mail does not mention a customer by name, but it is presumed that FARC is proposing a uranium sale to Venezuela. The nation's president, Hugo Chavez, is sympathetic to FARC and has negotiated with the guerrilla group for the release of hundreds of hostages, many of whom have been held for years.

Rep. Connie Mack, Florida Republican, on Friday proposed a resolution declaring Venezuela a state sponsor of terrorism, citing the proposed uranium sale.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, also a Florida Republican, backed the proposal.

"It is vital that Congress and the administration have access to the volumes of information that might determine whether [Venezuelan President Hugo] Chavez has aided the FARC in its war on the people of Colombia," said Ms. Ros-Lehtinen.

Other documents released from the seized laptop reportedly indicate Mr. Chavez either paid or pledged $300,000 to FARC.

"It is highly conceivable that [FARC guerrillas are] trying to expand their income flows by obtaining and selling high explosives on the black market," said John Pike of GlobalSecurity.org.

"And it is conceivable that Venezuela"s Chavez may be intrigued by such a prospect, and certainly Iran would be," Mr. Pike said.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080319/FOREIGN/517318036

By buggy on Mar 19, 14:46 in Politics & the war. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


buggy says on Mar 19, 14:53:

Científicos estadounidenses dudan de la presunta operación de las FARC con uranio

Fuente: Caracol Radio
03/19/2008 - 11:26:00


Varios científicos citados hoy por el diario The Washington Times manifestaron escepticismo respecto a una supuesta operación de las FARC para vender uranio con el que fabricar una bomba.

El rotativo publica hoy un correo electrónico entre dirigentes de las FARC en el que se habla del uranio, así como opiniones de especialistas que minimizan tanto el riesgo real que podría suponer que ese grupo guerrillero tuviera 50 kilos de ese metal, como el precio que pensaban obtener por su venta: 2,5 millones de dólares.

Según los científicos consultados, el uranio no enriquecido "no puede utilizarse para una arma nuclear", no es muy útil para la fabricación de una "bomba sucia" y sólo cuesta alrededor de cien dólares el medio kilo.

Matthew Bunn, un especialista en asuntos nucleares de la Facultad de Gobierno de la Universidad de Harvard, dijo al diario que el correo electrónico en cuestión contiene "indicios considerables de que se trataba de algún tipo de fraude, porque el citado precio de 2,5 millones de dólares por kilogramo es aproximadamente diez mil veces más de lo que vale el uranio en su estado natural". "Esto sugiere que la gente de las FARC involucrada en este asunto sabía muy poco sobre el tema", dijo Bunn a "The Washington Times".

Ivan Oelrich, de la Federación de Científicos Estadounidenses, dijo a "The Washington Times" que es poco probable que los rebeldes estuviesen hablando de uranio para fabricar una bomba nuclear. Según Oelrich, se requerirían cantidades masivas, al menos cien veces más de las que presuntamente pretendían vender las FARC, para extraer suficiente isótopos para una o dos bombas nucleares, y se trata de un proceso técnico e industrial muy complejo.

También Steve Kidd, un científico de la Asociación Mundial Nuclear, con sede en Londres, subrayó que este tipo de uranio "sería inútil para una bomba radiactiva".

E-mail radiactivo

El correo es uno de los contenidos en las computadoras requisadas por militares colombianos en un campamento de las FARC en Ecuador que fue atacado el pasado 1 de marzo.

El correo electrónico publicado por el diario presuntamente fue escrito el 16 de febrero pasado por Edgar Tovar, un comandante regional de las FARC, y dirigido a "Raúl Reyes", el número dos de esa guerrilla, quien murió en el ataque colombiano.

Tovar menciona en el correo electrónico a un hombre en Bogotá, identificado sólo por el nombre de Belisario, que, según dice, "vende explosivos que nosotros preparamos".

Agrega que sus contactos "proponen la venta de cada kilo a 2,5 millones de dólares que ellos entregarían para que veamos a quién vendérselos, y que debería ser un negocio con un Gobierno", según el correo electrónico.

Uranio

El uranio en su estado natural es un metal pesado con poquísima radiactividad, aunque contiene pequeñas trazas de un isótopo poco común que contribuye a la reacción en cadena de una bomba nuclear.

buggy says on Mar 19, 15:25:

I hoped that some of you would say that these assholes of scientists were paid by these assholes of FARC, Chavez, Correa and Piedad Cordoba ....
It is your current language, no ?

durito says on Mar 19, 15:57:

I don't understand.

Haven't you alleged that the documents were all fakes created by the gov't.

This isn't what these articles say.

Alma del Norte says on Mar 19, 17:16:

Yeah, durito, re: that - these computers went off to Interpol, (or vice versa), 2 weeks ago. Any news peeps?

juancegomez says on Mar 20, 11:01:

Alma: Apparently Interpol has until the end of April, so expect to hear something by then.

Btw, AFAIK the Interpol guys are here, not the other way around.

romy says on Mar 26, 20:26:

Marzo 26 de 2008

Hallan 30 kilos de uranio que según el computador de 'Raúl Reyes' fueron adquiridos por las Farc

La primera inspección de las autoridades revela que se trata de un material empobrecido que no puede ser usado para fabricar armas atómicas.

El hallazgo se dio gracias a la información suministrada por dos informantes que señalaron el lugar y aseguraron que el material pertenecía a un hombre llamado Belisario.

Esta información coincide con los datos hallados en el computador de 'Rául Reyes', en el que se menciona a 'Belisario' como el contacto para la compra de uranio.

Las Fuerzas Militares dicen tener registro de este hombre y en el computador de 'Reyes' se menciona que acostumbraba a venderle diferentes productos a las Farc.

El uranio fue hallado en dos paquetes, uno de 15 kilos y otro de 20, y estaban enterrados a un metro de la carretera, la cual las Farc acostumbraban utilizar para el tránsito entre Bogotá y la antigua zona de distensión.

Las Fuerzas Militares aseguran que tiene información que desde el 2005 las Farc estarían intentando comprar uranio.

El uranio está en manos de Ingeominas y las primeras muestras dan como resultado que es uranio empobrecido.

En uno de los paquetes, el uranio tenía una marquilla, que podría ser de la empresa de donde proviene. Esta información está siendo analizada para determinar también el país de procedencia.

A los informantes se les pagará la recompensa.

Es empobrecido

Con la ayuda de los informantes, el CTI y el Ejército ubicaron el sitio exacto donde estaba el material, que podría pasar de 30 kilos, según los propios hombres que suministraron la información.
Según el ministerio, los expertos de Ingeominas continúan en el sitio extrayendo todo el material.

"Cuando termine este procedimiento y se compruebe que todo el contenido corresponde a uranio se procederá a dar mas información", dijo el Ministerio de Defensa en un comunicado.

La primera semana de febrero del 2006 un hombre, que no quiso identificarse, llamó a la Brigada XIII del Ejército para denunciar que en su cuadra, en el barrio Santa Sofía, norte de Bogotá, se traficaba material radioactivo.

Los hombres de inteligencia de la brigada se trasladaron hasta dicho barrio y trabajaron en forma encubierta durante dos semanas.

Los investigadores hicieron contacto con dos personas que les ofrecieron uranio. El valor exigido fue 315 millones de dólares.

A finales de ese mismo mes, cuando estaba pactada la compra de una barra de 15 centímetros de longitud por 8 centímetros de diámetro, el Ejército pidió la colaboración de CTI de la Fiscalía para realizar un allanamiento.

La operación se efectuó en una empresa de gas para vehículos, donde el uranio se encontraba envuelto dentro de una nevera de icopor. Además, dos personas fueron capturadas.

Tras un análisis hecho por expertos de Ingeominas, se determinó que se trataba de uranio empobrecido. Era en realidad residuo obtenido de la producción del combustible destinado a los reactores nucleares, inservible para fabricar armas atómicas.

El pasado 16 de marzo del 2001, el DAS encontró 600 gramos de uranio enriquecido en una casa del tradicional barrio Nicolás de Federmán, en Bogotá. Era guardado en tubos de plomo que evitaban su radiación.

Para energía y blindaje

El mineral de uranio se encuentra en la naturaleza y tiene bajo poder radioactivo. En Colombia existen unos pequeños yacimientos en Santander y Caldas.

El uranio usado para fabricar bombas y producir energía nuclear debe ser sometido a un proceso previo en el que es mezclado con otros minerales para aumentar su radioactividad. Colombia no posee el material ni los equipos para esa transformación.

El material que es desechado de los reactores es conocido como uranio empobrecido y es usado por la industria militar para blindajes.

REDACCIÓN JUSTICIA

Muestra de uranio empobrecido decomisada hace dos años. EL TIEMPO

DodgerDogs says on Mar 26, 20:28:

Colombia seizes uranium from leftist guerrillas 27 Mar 2008 03:16:58 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Hugh Bronstein

BOGOTA, March 26 (Reuters) - Colombia said it seized at least 66 pounds (30 kg) of uranium from the country's biggest left-wing rebel group on Wednesday, the first time radioactive material has been linked to the four-decade-old guerrilla war.

The uranium was found in a rural area long considered a Marxist guerrilla stronghold just south of the capital Bogota.

It is being examined by government experts, the defense ministry said in a statement, although it did not say where the material came from or what it could be used for.

An expert on Colombia's cocaine-fueled conflict said rebels of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, do not have the facilities needed to make a bomb with uranium.

"This appears to have been part of a black market operation that the guerrillas were trying to use to make money," said Pablo Casas, an analyst at Bogota think-tank Security and Democracy.

"This is new for Colombia and could bring the FARC into the major leagues of black market terrorist transactions," he said.

The government said information about the stash of uranium was found earlier this month in computer files left behind by top guerrilla leader Raul Reyes, who was killed in a Colombian bomb strike against a FARC camp in neighboring in Ecuador.

The March 1 raid sparked a major diplomatic dispute between Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe, a conservative ally of the United States, and the left-wing leaders of Ecuador and Venezuela.

Colombia also claims the files show evidence that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has given financial support to the FARC.

The United States, which calls the FARC a terrorist group and has long considered Chavez a destabilizing force in Latin America, said the evidence is "disturbing" .

Chavez openly sympathizes with the FARC but says Colombia's accusations are part of a U.S.-backed plot to smear him. He has also questioned how the computer files could have survived the bombing raid.

The FARC took up arms in the 1960s and is now funded mostly by cocaine smuggling and extortion. The group says it is fighting a Marxist insurgency meant to close the wide gap that separates rich and poor in this Andean country.

"No one believes the FARC wants to blow up Bogota to further the revolution," said a diplomat based in the capital who asked not to be named.

"This seems more like a black market action than military action. It shows again how the FARC is behaving more like an organized crime group than a political group," the diplomat said.

The war kills, maims and displaces thousands of Colombians every year. (Reporting by Hugh Bronstein; Editing by Kieran Murray)

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romy says on Mar 26, 20:29:

where are they gonna get 315 million dollars? what a convenient number, specially after realizing this uranium was harmless.

DodgerDogs says on Mar 26, 20:31:

Chavez lent them the money ( interest free :) :) :) :)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Mar 26, 20:49:

Romy, I'm wondering if you might have misread the story in Spanish. The $315 million was what the uranium traffickers were asking as the price for what turned out to be depleted uranium seized in an undercover investigation that began way back in 2006. It's not the same case as the recent seizure linked to Reyes computer data.

People on the black market try all sorts of crazy scams to rip each other off.

romy says on Mar 26, 21:11:

No, I understood. I just found it interesting that these numbers were so similar. What kind of a person has 300 million kicking around for some uranium? It seems so ridiculous.
From the top- "The e-mail does not mention a customer by name, but it is presumed that FARC is proposing a uranium sale to Venezuela. The nation's president, Hugo Chavez, is sympathetic to FARC and has negotiated with the guerrilla group for the release of hundreds of hostages, many of whom have been held for years."

goin_south says on Mar 26, 23:29:

dodgerdog//////prove it.

NO MAS........ MARINERO YERRI'S... ;-(

DodgerDogs says on Mar 26, 23:49:

Hugo signs 3 year 115 million dollar contract with NY Yankees
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Hugo steals 50 million dollars worth of Colombian Parrots
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Hugo earns 50 million dollars as Mexico's top Mariachi singer
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Hugo makes 50 million dollars as a prepago in Cartagena
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Hugo dolls sold to Toys R Us for 50 million dollars
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GS: the 315 million dollars Hugo earned from these things, he then loaned interest free to the Farc. If you need more proof use Google .

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