Importing New Truck to conserve cash, bring dog and tools

Gringo Spy says on Oct 3, 2008, 08:14:

Only a zero miles new car can be brought into Colombia. It will then have to be taken out of the country after one year. It does not have to be out of the country long, 24-48 hours will do. You might be able to get some sort of extension but no guarantees. I'm not sure about this but I think you need to have the car paid in full before you can bring it down. Either that or you will need some sort of permission from the lender to allow you to take it out of the country and frankly that will be impossible, IMHO of course.

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quantum says on Oct 3, 2008, 08:33:

Yes, Im in agreement with GSpy on that one. There is no way they will let u take that new car or any car that is financed out of the country. If u find a way to do it, pls let me know. But hey, another option is to buy the truck here in Panama, even cheaper than in the U.S. and just ship all your toys and tools directly to Colombia.

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scumbuster says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:06:

From the USA side how would they even know you took it out if you are driving? Many people drive to Mexico and Canada and there cars are financed. I would think its only the restrictions, Colombia would have on the receiving end.

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Gator says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:07:

Best it be brand new and you have the import paper authorization from DIAN (Dirección de Impuestos y Aduanas Nacionales). Must have the dealer's paperwork showing the mileage and attesting the vehicle is new.

Colombia has strict rule on importing used vhicles-you can't unless it is certified as an antique. Prohibitive tariff on new vehicle of around 33% Best have paper works for the dog-see your Colombian consulate

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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dwmte7 says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:08:

yeah...tell your senators and representatives to vote no on the free trade agreement. it's all onesided like the one with mexico. screw them.

it's either an open border, or it's not. now, it's not so recommend a no vote. we took it in the shorts with mexico......as wit: try taking personal property to mexico. lets not do it with colombia.

i paid on one of my three shipments of personal goods into colombia, $7,500.00 usd. that's pure bullshit. we've shipped our personal effects down and back three times now and we got another one coming up in about 2 yrs and i'm tired of getting screwed.

definitely vote no on free trade with colombia...unless its FREE TRADE across the board.

dwmte

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ujay says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:21:

gringoliod ,was into this a while back,bring in second hand cars.and the time all that ,get in touch with him.i think he said he bought them in by plane.but he knows all about this.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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sloopskipper says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:43:

You'll probably find that you can not export a vehicle without a clear title.

I know that I was not able to ship a newly leased Volvo to Puerto Rico, for that reason.

But, as was mentioned, it could be driven to Mexico. However, I would want to be SURE there would be no problem getting it shipped from there.

I believe that you would have big problems getting it in, and out, of Panamá (especially without a clear title, and you possibly might have to pay duty and sales tax).

As far as transportation for you and the pet, I think you'll have to find another way. When I shipped my Jeep from Puerto Rico (in container) nothing was permitted in the vehicle, except for jack. The ship was supposed to steam directly from San Juan to Panama City, but was rerouted, and held up in Cartagena for a couple weeks.

The car had to be steam cleaned underneath in Puerto Rico, and inspected by police before it could board ship. You will probably find that the vehicle will be impounded at the destination, until it is cleared by aduana.

If Colombia is anything like Panamá (and I expect it would be, at least, as bad) that could easily be weeks and you'll probably have to pay storage.

I think if you are considering transiting several countries, you might be in for much trouble.

But, pity you can not drive from Panamá to Colombia. I just read in Colombia Reports that The Pan American Highway might be connected, through The Darien and Chocó, by 2012.

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daan11 says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:47:

buy the car in Colombia. they just invented something called a credit card. use it. they´ll take it at dealerships in Colombia for used and new vehicles. Finance it that way.

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sloopskipper says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:51:

And with Colombian manufactured cars, he would save the 33%(?) duty?

However, I'm sure he'd want to make sure he has a card with no foreign transaction fee. A 3-4% add-on would be basty.

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Sam Salmon says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:52:

"I just read in Colombia Reports that The Pan American Highway might be connected, through The Darien and Chocó, by 2012."

Pigs might fly too-they 'might' (!)

No one else has mentioned the tools-you mean you're importing work tools?

They'll either be stolen on board ship-those runs are notorious-or taxed heavily upon entry.

' a la orden!'

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sloopskipper says on Oct 3, 2008, 09:56:

You are not a believer, Sam?

I also wouldn't want
to make a big bet on it.

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antiguru says on Oct 3, 2008, 12:42:

Thanks for the advice. I'll just fly over with my dog and buy a truck and tools here. Same conclusion as previous threads on this topic. Got it.

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Oct 3, 2008, 12:45:

A truck, dog and tools -- add a woman that done you wrong and you've got the ingredients for a country music song.

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gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Oct 3, 2008, 16:39:

jaja

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antiguru says on Oct 3, 2008, 17:59:

i've packed my toooools....
gonna hiiiiiit the rooooad
won't stop driving 'til i forget her naaaame
my best friend bosco at my side
gonna build me house in medelliiiin
i'm sure those paisa girls will change me luck
if they don't steel my tools, eat my dog and impound truck

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Gator says on Oct 3, 2008, 20:09:

About half way down the banditos would kill you, eat the dog, steal the truck and sell the tools.

What the hell-go for it! Or sell the final results to David Allan Coe

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Buongone says on Oct 3, 2008, 22:09:

You talk about having the vehicle certified antique. If the car is over 25 yrs old. It's antique? Right. What about this certification? Thanks

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elk says on Oct 4, 2008, 06:14:

You say: "Also, I want to drive down with my dog and a truckload of hand/power tools (used personal items"

Driving from the U.S. to Panama isn't as easy as it might sound, especially when your driving a vehicle with a lien on the title. (loan)

I have made the trip or drive seven times from the U.S. to Panama. You will be crossing seven borders to reach your final destination. Each border official has a way of extracting their piece of the pie. (Honduras is the worst in my opinion)

Each country will have their own view of the law as it relates to your vehicle. Normally the title must be in your name only, without a lien holder shown on the title, but perhaps you can make a donation under the table. Bringing a number of power tools across the border will be another issue and will again require paying mordida. Plan on paying $350 to $500 in border fees to reach Panama. It may cost more in your case with the tools, dog and vehicle title. Research the requirements for bringing an animal across each border. The Aduana looks for any reason to add an additional fee for the border crossing.

On a positive note, the trip is very interesting and enjoyable with the exception of the border crossings. Plan on at least 12-14 days to reach Panama.

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antiguru says on Oct 4, 2008, 06:41:

thanks for the real-life feedback. trip cancelled!

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sloopskipper says on Oct 4, 2008, 08:23:

Glad you checked in, antiguru

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jeff8875 says on Dec 2, 2008, 12:36:

Another option I heard someone doing a while back, was to ship in the parts to a kit car.. say one of the factory five cobra kits for example and have it put together in Colombia. You avoid the fees etc... anyone heard of this?

-Jeff

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antiguru says on Dec 2, 2008, 13:55:

i realized i wouldnt need a truck in medellin. first, hiring a truck for a move or delivery is very cheap and, second, parking would be a pain.

so i bought a 2004 mazda allegro hatchback with 70K kilometers on it for $9000 USD.

flew down with my dog. labor is so cheap here realized i won't need my tools here either.

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vicshere says on Dec 2, 2008, 19:19:

labour is cheap wait till you see the quality of the work you would have wished you brought your own tools

listo

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