im going to colombia in 2 months...anyone thats living in medellin or cali hit me up!!

dwmte7 says on Dec 6, 2007, 05:55:

jay...forget the translator...i went in '89 and established a mfg operation in medellin and didn't speak spanish. i didn't have to worry about hanging out with english speaking foreigners, there weren't any. even if there were, i made it a point to only be with locals and force myself to learn the language and customs. it came about surprisingly quickly. not fluency, but certainly sufficient to manage my affairs. i had about 60 employees and managed alright.

nowdays, there's foreigners everywhere and one can manage quite well. too, many colombians speak english now. if not fluently, enough to make communication workable. i'm not a cali fan, spent my 19 years in and around medallo. suggest the same to you. (i should note, i do secretly possess a fondness of those calina legs) in medellin, you'll probably be in and around parke lleras in poblado, and--unfortunately--there's english speakers all over the place. to make your trip really an experience of colombia, get the hell outta poblado, and visit the surrounding pueblos...sante fe de antioquia, el retiro, la ceja, maranilla, carmen de viboral, rionegro, san antonio, tablaso and the whole of llano grande.

don't go just to hang with other gringos, as you'll end up with no clue as to what is the real beauty of lady colombia. i originally went in the late '80's when shooting, killing, bombings and all manner of chaos and meyhem were the order of the day and went on 24/7. it was as dangerous as any war zone in the world....all that aside, there was an underlying romance, seductiveness, etc. to make me look past the horrors and fall in love with a most incredible country. don't miss the opportunity to explore her marvels and beauty, by just hanging out in clubs and bars and chasing chicas. go out and explore her, taste her real charms, treat her with deep, sincere respect and she'll respond by taking you in, embracing you and making of you, one of her devoted admirers.

i'd, personally, put llano grande high on your adjenda, as the beauty, people and surroundings are enough to convert even the worst detractors and demented. trust me, colombia, if seen as she is, will make you sad you might have to leave and (if) after leaving, overpowered by the desire/need to return.

enjoy your trip
douglas

dwmte

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Peter (Moderator) says on Dec 6, 2007, 10:56:

douglas, you're like a poet!

Poor but snappy

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Lisa Zee says on Dec 6, 2007, 11:11:

Yeah Douglas!, that is beautiful and so true! I agree 100%.

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jay007 says on Dec 6, 2007, 13:35:

damn douglas you gave me goose bumps...LOL i know man i love it,i went about 6 years ago when i was dating this colombian girl i meet here in FL..she couldnt come with me cause she was here on political aslum? but anyways her family met me at the bogota airport and took good care of me me and her 14 year old brother went to cartenena by ourselves i had fun but couldnt do "everything" i wanted to with him around, her parents took me to there other house in a small town i forget the name of it but we passed a town named LA VEGA on the way...the views on the drive down there where awesome...put even MAUI in the dirt..c its more thrillingif i had a lil more money id go and try to live there for a year or two. thanks for the advise ill make note of the places you mentioned.

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coffee beaner says on Dec 6, 2007, 14:03:

I'll chill with you dude...we'll get some hoe's and stuff LOL!

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Lisa Zee says on Dec 6, 2007, 15:09:

Make sure they are over 14.

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jay007 says on Dec 6, 2007, 15:21:

over 14?? why do they let 14 year olds in the clubs out there??

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coffee beaner says on Dec 6, 2007, 15:27:

They have things here called chiquitecas... it's like clubs for people under 18, they don't sell alcohol though. But why would you wanna go hit on a 14 year old when Medellin is crawling with banging 18 - 35 year old women.

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dwmte7 says on Dec 6, 2007, 18:59:

GOD!!! maui, i dropped outta college in the early 60's and went and hung out in maur and kauai just to get away from the acid that was taking over the universities. when dr. leary started the tests at harvard, it spread like wild fire and before long it was at berkeley, and everywhere else. they even started a class at u.c. santa cruz, 'the lsd experience' you guessed it, dropping acid in a college class......ooooooooohboooy. they didn't have the dorms built yet and all the students were livin in trailers. most of the kids gutted the trailers and turned them into teepees and started livin like indians. doin acid, gettin knocked up, having their kids without midwives/drs/hospitals, just up in the dirt on the sides of the hills. damn it was wild and crazy. a bunch of fuckin wild, crazy, stoned and pregnant kids...like myself, without a clue as to where it was all gonna lead. well, here it is 50 years later, i've lived all over the world, and our precious COMMON FATHER, has saw fit to drop me out--finally--in the wanderland of colombia, and i'm still clueless where it all leads. i'm gonna go ask elmo for some advise.

dwmte

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jay007 says on Dec 7, 2007, 00:39:

listen....i would never talk to a 14 year old OK!!!chill out son...as for dwmte7..man i dont understand your comment MAN you must still be on acid dude lol gosh...but i love ya anyways

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goin_south says on Dec 7, 2007, 00:48:

I can dance, like the guys that sing reggaeton and wrap; can I come to the party?
Plus... breakdance...if it helps ... anything.

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Dec 7, 2007, 00:50:

Qierro regresar a Cali.... muy pronto!

Ciao! Gustav.

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dwmte7 says on Dec 7, 2007, 05:53:

go ahead, southbound, get in the wind...they're waiting for you. IT'S PARTY TIME.
douglas

dwmte

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jay007 says on Dec 7, 2007, 17:44:

party party party!!! yall are gettin me hype...i just hope they have Patron

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Lisa Zee says on Dec 7, 2007, 19:06:

No Patron, AGUARDIENTE!

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goin_south says on Dec 7, 2007, 23:39:

n'er mind jay; I'll bring a LARGE BOTTLE of Marinero Yerri

Ciao! Gustav.

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jay007 says on Dec 8, 2007, 04:17:

that aguardiente taste like black liquierish i hate it!!

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coffee beaner says on Dec 8, 2007, 09:18:

It's kinda hard to find Patron here in Medellin, usually the thing here is Mr. Jose Cuervo.... bring Patron or Cabo Wabo ;)

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goin_south says on Dec 8, 2007, 09:31:

try the Blanco, jay.
Not that it's my favorite drink; I was in 'very desirable circumstances' the first time I drank that stuff. It was good then. but I understand. I've been saving a bottle here for over two years now.... and, maybe forever.

Ciao! Gustav.

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dwmte7 says on Dec 8, 2007, 21:32:

well, jay...you better get used to that guaro, cause youse in colombia now....when in rome...

it took me a while, but after i finally did it, i understood.

dwmte

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