Illegal immigration: Are we just too stupid to solve it?

expatriate says on Apr 22, 2007, 15:19:

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aztec says on Apr 22, 2007, 15:21:

What has the May Flower... ...got to do with anything in the 21st century?

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aztec says on Apr 22, 2007, 15:24:

Go see the new movie "The Children of Men" ...with Clive Owen if you want to see the future of Western Civilization.

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scotty says on Apr 22, 2007, 16:34:

expatriate I somewhat agree with you. I dont see the Russians or Chinese or radical muslims taking over this country. I think in their favorite dreams they would love to conquer us but i dont see it happening.
What i do see in the USA is an implosion taking place. Outside forces are assisting in this implosion and by outside forces i mean the countries i just named and others such as Chavez, Castro and a whole host of others who would like to see us crash and burn.
With that being said the real problem is the inside of America and other free countries such as Colombia, England, France, and others. The USA and other free countries are collapsing within through every avenue such as the music, the movies, the media, polititions, far left wingers, greenpeace, al gore, michael moore, sean pean, bill mahr, rosie odonnel, and the list goes on. our lack of border control,the illegals keep piling into this country no one does anything about it, the hospitals and schools are filling up, the crime is going up and the polititions sit on their hands our wild spending lieing cheating phoney polititions , our over taxing, our abuse of our own people, gun control to take our weapons away so we cant protect ourselves, outrageous insurance fees, medical fees and every other fee.
the rich getting richer the poor getting poorer and the middle class working their asses off, paying more and getting less. our troops fighting for freedom while the left wing of america puts them down and the democrats trying to cut off the troops funding.
I think america and freedom loving countries are in trouble, we are imploding slowly but surely.
Do i see rebellion and street fighting, maybe but i doubt it, i see a slow implosion in the making as we all sit by and watch it happening.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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expatriate says on Apr 22, 2007, 18:07:

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scotty says on Apr 22, 2007, 18:23:

Rubito I think you are right about crime in general going down across the US but the crime of illegals has gone up. There are more illegals in prison now than ever before something like 30% of all crimes are illegals commiting.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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scotty says on Apr 22, 2007, 18:34:

expatriate i just read your post and i am totally blown away. i just dont know what to say to you. your post is sooo far over the deep end i just cant respond to it. so you got all your imformation off the internet huh? well that explains it all.
you are the typical blame Bush blame America crowd.
people who have gone down the road you have gone down are beyond help, its to late for you to see whats really going on. you cant see the trees for the forest.
any reasonable person that reads your last post can see how far you have fallin. just listen to your self
"the israelis give congressmen sexual favors and blackmail them with that", "cheny training people how to fly planes into buildings".
my advice to you is 1. stop reading the garbage you are reading on the internet it has effected your common sense. 2. stop smoking what ever it is you are smoking because it has clearly fogged your mind. 3. please tell me you are not an american citizen . 4. if you are a citizen please tell me you are not registered to vote.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Juan348 says on Apr 22, 2007, 18:38:

These predictions of doom and gloom for the U.S. are hilarious. I live in Miami, a very diverse city, and see little racial strife (certainly less than in the sixties). The people coming from other countries want to be part of the system, albeit, in their way. They are not coming here to alter the fundamentals of our society. Very few people don't want to learn English. It is very difficult. For people who don't like change, I am sure it is disconcerting to see the racial fabric of the U.S change.

Depression? The economy has never been better. The standard of living for the average American is incredibly high.

As for Bush, he is doing a great job. Our stength as a nation nor his effectiveness should be judged by how liberals in other countries view us.

As for visiting Colombia, Bush was very well received. I go to Colombia frequently and the Colombians are pro-American and they were glad to see him. Many in other countries are very sensitive and jealous about our success and they couch that jealousy by being critical of the U.S. no matter what we do.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 18:48:

Real simple solution: Enforce existing law, with deportations for first time offenders. Secure the borders to stop the flow and force all to use the legal process of immigration. Tighten Current immigration laws, such as deportation is required even if you get knocked up and pop out a puppy here on US soil: your kid can stay, but Adios MFr! impose high fees/taxes on $$ sent to Mexico to help pay for enforcement....make the violators do their jail time before deportation, then AMF! and for every illegal kicked out, let a legal law-abiding one in...its amazing to watch the legal immigrants at the swearing in ceremonies for their citizenship, and how full of pride they are to be US citizens.....then, talk to some illegal who has nothing but contempt for the US...what a joke...



Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

Got Beer, anyone??

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Apr 22, 2007, 19:14:

expatriate, that sounds like some pretty serious reading 'Defensive Racism'

...and forecasting. I can deal with everything there, but... WWIII. Man I can't stand the thoughts of WWIII. Isn't there something else we can do? Can they postpone that for a few more generations?

El Mundo; It's.... The Mad Hatter Tea Party!

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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bhill says on Apr 22, 2007, 19:27:

Useless politcians We have the finest congressmen that private interests can buy. They are all spineless, and so deep in some pocket or other that no difficult issue can be resolved, immigration included on a large and growing list. Though I admit, I still had a _little_ faith in government left before the Bush administration robbed me of even that token support.

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 22, 2007, 19:38:

I've got a strange craving for Kool-Aid.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 22, 2007, 22:06:

I always laugh when I read this crap about racial strife etc. Texas is now minority majority and in the not too distant future it will be majority Latino. I don't see the "white" people freaking out about this. Everybody seems pretty cool about it as we construct a new society where everybody's a mix of cultures and ethnic groups. Es el futuro y you might as well embrace it.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 22:52:

I hate to enlighten you, but it is not a race or nationality issue....its a matter of legal versus illegal immigration....but, i would not expect you to understand that....but i am happy that you are happy in your little microcosm of utopia....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

Got Beer, anyone??

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:03:

And when the illegals become legal by the stroke of a pen? Then what?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:06:

Salud! Sign 'em all up for Service! lol
Colombia; It's...a Party!

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:11:

MinuteMen? No, i do believe that Rodentdero has the MinuteMan Syndrome, as does most Texans..but that is an issue to be dealt with between you married couples....if the amnesty is approved again, which is not likely, then you will have your slave labor once again, UClown.....then i win either way, hate to tell you the truth....then we will legislate whitey away with law changes...jajajajja....my sympathy is for the people who respect the law and enter legally...what makes illegals more important than legal immigrants?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

Got Beer, anyone??

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:29:

Sorry but i am not sympathetic to the illegals....i dont reward bad behavior...and i would hope you dont reward bad behavior with your kids, do you? It would be nice to live in the land of flowers and dreams, but that aint life and you know it. You want the privelidge to live in the US and enjoy its benefits, then the US has every right to keep you out if you are a child molester, rapist, druglord, etc....with illegal immigration there is no way to keep any of the bad element out...sounds like you would have not problem having these types of people live next door to you and your family, huh? well, dont come crying to anyone if your kids get molested by some pervert who simply walked into the US....Hey, R, go live illegally in Mexico and see what they do to illegal immigrants? or are you not aware of how they deal with illegal immigrants...?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

Got Beer, anyone??

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:46:

One molester is too many....especially if the victim is your kid With the decal or without the decal you were a tourist in Mexico, which is not the same as an illegal immigrant...please know the difference....and if you tried bribing la migra, you would more than likely be in la pinta.....who cares if most are or are not illegal? does it matter to you whether or not the one who molests your child in the booty is legal or illegal? You can keep some of them out by preventing entry in the first place....then, you need only deal with just the remaining native molestors or legal immigrant molestors...i guess to you it would be ok if it was a paperless molestor who takes your childs virginity, huh? pathetic, dude. and if they have a record for such activity in mexico, wouldnt it be better to NOT let them in? Not possible with an open border...

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 22, 2007, 23:52:

Anyway, i need to sleep...i am going to sleep by shooting at the mojados jumping over the fences in my dreams...jajajajaj...

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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scotty says on Apr 23, 2007, 00:24:

UT what happens when the stroke of a pen you ask? simple, more mouths for us working people to feed, more taxes for the working people to pay, more kids in school for us working people to support, more ER's at the hospital full and our taxes paying for that to, more unskilled people walking the streets and being exploited by businesses, more of everything negative.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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scotty says on Apr 23, 2007, 00:30:

rodadero you crack me up man. so let me see if i understand you. you are saying that there is no difference between cubans who risk their lives on the open seas to get to america and escape communism and brutality of the castro regime and a mexicans that sneak into this country breaking our laws, use our hospitals, schools and dont pay taxes, send the money they earn back to mexico as the same?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 23, 2007, 05:56:

I'm going to have a good laugh when the next amnesty goes through.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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aztec says on Apr 23, 2007, 06:27:

expatriate, You are reading from... ... the left wing play book of the US Democrat Party. Try to broaden your research beyond moveon.com. You people will never get over the fact that Bush beat those clowns Gore and Kerry.

When will you people realize that Bush is not eligible to run for another term as president. Why not offer something positive for the future of America. You lost the last two elections so get over it!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 23, 2007, 10:33:

Yup, most fools always laugh at everything anyway, so why..... should UClowns be different....like i said, i win either way.....you lose either way, because your tax dollars will go up with more arrivals or just keeping the ones here...but then maybe Utopianians dont pay taxes since they dont have crime either....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 23, 2007, 11:00:

It is too bad that some children have to pay for the bad choices of thier parents, R.....but there is a legal way to enter and an illegal way...both have consequences and both have benefits...such is life, make bad choices pay the price...nobodys fault but their own.....so dont let the door slam shut while getting deported, please......like i said, my sympathy is for the people who abide by the laws of the country they want to enter...not the mojados....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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aztec says on Apr 23, 2007, 11:20:

Rodadero That's because they are all here. Have you been to Mexico lately? Nobody home. The objective is to STOP it! Then deal with the ones who are here! We have the technology to detect a cockroach crossing any part of the border.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 23, 2007, 12:47:

R, do you know how Mexico and the authorities treat all those people who enter Mexico illegally as well enroute to the US? Christ, the local police, the federales, border officials take everyting from them except their chones, beat the shit out of them, and then arrest them....Read up on that horrendous treatment, then re-read your post....and the US has the right, as every country, to control who and who does not enter its boundaries...like every country....and there are plenty of foreign medical people at medical and dental centers in the US....so because 1 doesnt get in, well, sucks to be him....The US is not the dumping ground for every human not happy with his/her life.....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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scotty says on Apr 23, 2007, 13:25:

miguel clavo good posts!

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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miamimike says on Apr 23, 2007, 13:51:

Here in Miami The Cubans have Control and They Have all but wrecked the city. (suarez, carollo,penellas ect only to mention a few politicos) Corruption is rampant, the City hall gang pulls scam after scam. Look at the Miami Airport, rife with corruption. Its been under construction for 10 years now! Look at who is controlling the Venders, Construction. Miami is he Poorest Largest US City as far as wage disparity to housing costs. Miami is loaded with undocumented Aliens(illegal). Bush(W and Jeb) along with some Dems, doesn't want rein them in as he views them as potential Future Republican Voters. With all these Illegals working off the Tax Rolls(below the table)it drives the wages down for honest workers who compete with these illegals. Illegals don't bother with Any Licenses like occupational, professional, pay workman's comp ect. How can someone conducting business in a legal manner compete against these folks? They can't and in the end the Legal's workers wage drops! Not to mention, when the issue of shoddy work comes up try and get your botched job repaired! Hasta la vista go your dollars! Legal Orderly Documeneted Immigration is what made our Country great, Illegal Immigration is what will destroy it!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Juan348 says on Apr 23, 2007, 14:30:

The U.S. has taken in millions of Mexicans. About 10 percent of all Mexicans live here. However, they are still overly critical of our policies. Instead of thanking us, they have the nerve to demand (not ask) for more. Now they want a Marshall type program. Their new plan is that we must send them billions of dollars or they will continue to send more immigrants. We could get manual labor from anywhere, we don't need them. They always tell us what we need to do for them, but never what they could do for us.

I want more immigration (and we need more people to grow the economy), but legal not illegal, and more diversity. It is time for more Colombians and Peruvians and less Mexicans. Let's reward the Colombians for being pro-U.S. and give them more consideration in immigration.

Finally, the Cubans are like the Mexicans. They only come here for the money. They could go the Haiti or the Dominican Republic or even Mexico and be just as "free".

Despite the above, illegal immigration is not going to ruin the United States. It is not a good thing, but the country is strong enough to handle it.

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expatriate says on Apr 23, 2007, 16:39:

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treedoc says on Apr 23, 2007, 18:08:

reality I think u pretty much got it right there expat. And Scotty just needs to get out more, read more, travel more. The picture expat paints may not be pretty, but its far closer to the truth than other versions that have been presented in reference to this thread. Thats one of many reazons why Im an expat too........listo

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caslug says on Apr 23, 2007, 19:28:

If we(USA) lets.. cuban in for free.. then why not OTHER commie countries? how about VEN or CHINA??
HECK in CHINA.. they DONT allow internet PORN!!!! now that's VERY INHUMANE!!! ESPECIALLY with China having more boys than girls(due to their one child policy)! talk about cruelty! imagine being a boy/man and not having internet PORN!!! EVEN in the US, while putting the screw(no PUN intended) to our civil liberties, the ONE thing that US gov't hasn't dare to do, is take away our PORN!

If chinese govt lift those restriction, i can see US/Europe trade defict go from a defict to a CREDIT! US/Europe produce most of the world's internet PORN!

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 23, 2007, 21:16:

You da man, Caslug! What was it that the patriots said, "Give me Jenna Jameson or give me death!"? Or the Texans at San Jacinto hollering, "Remember the money shot!". Or Patrick Henry vowing "I regret that I have but one life to give for my pussy." Damm, it makes me feel like...........saluting the flag.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 23, 2007, 22:36:

Wow Rubito, finally a point I agree with. My wife's grandfather was a Cuban immigrant to Colombia.

Expatriate, GW never denied his alcoholism. He admitted he was a recovering alcoholic and hasn't had a drink for a long time - like 20 years ... I can't remember the exact date. He is alleged to have snorted a lot of coke in his youth. If true, so what? It is well documented that Gore was a pothead and Clinton had a lot of ties to cocaine smuggling while the Governor of Arkansas. And I am sure slick Willy really didn't inhale.

Expatriate: I love your theory that the World Trade Center would not have been attacked if GW wasn't in the White House. Hmmm, I thought Clinton was in the White House for the first bombing. And GW was President for less than a year before the World Trade Center was attacked the second time, by people who had been planning the attack for years.

And GW stole the election? You must live on the planet Voltare if you truly believe that crap. Remember, they recounted the ballots how many times before the issue was finally put to rest? Every time they recounted the ballots, the count was more in favor of Bush. Before you go crazy defending your pathetic argument by attacking me, I aint' a big Bush fan and wish we had a different President actually.

"Depleted uranium?" Assuming you are talking about the A-10 plane's main gun ammunition, they were developed long before Bush was the President. Try the Carter administration or before. Anyway, the bullets contain that substance, because it melts through any armour. If the bullets caused any harm other than to the enemy running and getting liquidated, don't you think it would make mainstream news? CNN, BBC, etc would be on that story like a chicken on a June-bug. I know guys who have worked with those planes for decades and have not had any ill effects. Depleted uranium causing harm, in reference to the spent ammunition, is urban legend and blatant propaganda.

Expat, .... hell, I don't know what else to say. Have a nice day.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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aztec says on Apr 24, 2007, 11:02:

Mexico's health czar seeks better care for Mexicans in Californ James Edwards Jr.,
"Most of the time, the Mexican government comes to the U.S. to ask for handouts," he said. "It's never to say, 'We want to pay the bills our citizens have been causing your taxpayers.' Why don't you take care of your own? We've got plenty of uninsured Americans."

Roughly 10 percent of the $7 billion in uncompensated care provided by the state's hospitals last year went to undocumented immigrants, said Jan Emerson, a spokeswoman for the California Hospital Association. A portion of that tab is reimbursed by the federal government.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/24/BAGA7PE9SB1.DTL

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 24, 2007, 12:14:

Too simple of a view of American politics... "Imagine if someone besides Bush and Dick (with names like that, no wonder we're screwed) was running the country. The World Trade Towers would still be standing, hundred of thousands wouldn't be dead and/or tortured, or missing limbs, minds, and be dying of depleted uranium, and the Katrina fiasco would have been handled professionally, instead of waiting for George to come off a four day drunk."

and to think all would be well in the kingdom if Kerry was the president.....like there is a difference......they are all politicians, and they are all the same......crooks........

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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miamimike says on Apr 25, 2007, 06:15:

Cubans don't risk there lives on some old Raft These Days their Families pay a Fast Boat Smuggler $8K an up for a 3-4 hr ride across the straits to the Keys. They haven't done this Raft BS in years. Or they pay a Coyote the same amount to bring their reletives thru a 3rd country. Now the folks risking all to come here in a rickedty Old Boat are the Haitians and they fleeing from a much more dangerous country. Violence is rampant, lack of Law and order,food, health care is the rule of the day in Haiti; Cuba is a "Cakewalk" compared to the Haiti of today, the Two countries or immigrants cannot even be talked about in the same conversation. The Cuban Freedom act of 1967 should be cancelled for Cubans and transferred to the Haitians if any group is to be given a preference. I personally think, as many Floridians believe also, that no preference should be given to any one group as is given to the Cubans. If we are to give a preference to people fleeing communism, then why aren't we giving Preference to the Chinese fleeing communism??? Show me the last time someone opposing Castro was executed in Cuba; this however happens daily in Haiti(opposition leaders executed)rapes, robberies, murders, show me a verifiable link this is occuring in the Cuba of 2007.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Apr 25, 2007, 06:33:

Illegal Immigration has Ruined Miami It has brought the standard of Living down in practically all neighborhoods. Unchecked illegal immigration has driven up our healthcare costs, our insurance costs(Auto). Illegal immigration has dropped the Wage of our local law abiding contractors. when you have all these Illegals work types operating out of Vans, without insurance licenses, workman's comp ect you drop the wages of legal workers as they have to drop their costs to compete with Illegals. Go into the Jails and a Detention center like Krome and they are jammed full of Illegals who cost the taxpayers a bundle to maintain. Krome is packed full of Cubans, many of them Mariels who are Felons. Their kind have ruined Miami,,,BTW, there is no such thing as an Illegal Immigrant, Immigrants have status in the USA while those who don't are termed illegal Aliens. These Cuban Felons will never be eligble for US Citizenship due to the fact they are Felons, this alone excludes them US citizenship.If we had a deportation accord with Cuba we could ship this Trash back to Cuba and thats a good place for them! We, the USA, refuse to sign an accord with Cuba and we are paying a dear price here in Miami,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Apr 25, 2007, 07:10:

Another Hipocracy On Cuban Immigration,,, The Cubans coming here to Miami claim they are fleeing Castro yet how is it, they are here no longer here then a few months and they want to return back to Cuba for a Vacation. They want to go back and play with the Girls or export something illegal thru a 3rd country like Canada, Spain ect and want to go back home to check on Cuba and check on their illegal shipments or Jinteras(street whores).They, by USA Law, are forbidden to trade with the Enemy yet see nothing wrong with back door trades such as this. They criticize others for doing the same(trade, visits) ; what is the old saying, "Do as we say, not as we do". As much as they claim to Hate Fidel, these Cubans send back minimally $15 million weekly in remittances and thats only from Miami. They spend millions weekly in Phone calls back to the Island yet by doing this, they give Castro probably .75 of every dollar per minute in phone call charges. The cost to call Cuba is at least $1.00 per minute, no matter what calling card is used and most of this $1 is for a government hook charge (per minute) so the same Tyrant these Miami Cubans profess to hate, they have enriched by Billions(and daily continue to do so), what a bunch of Hipocrites! LOL Hate a guy and yet send him Millions daily! That is why most Americans think this Cuban Immigrant group is full of Crapoola! Los Cubanos hablan hasta los codos! LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 25, 2007, 10:40:

Here is something to think about Mike... As that Great Wall of America keeps getting extended eastward, and the mexican illegals keep pressing further eastward to enter around the last section, eventually, if not checked, florida will be the new entry point for the Mexican illegal alien invasion! hahah...kind of like redirecting all those Killer Bees heading North from latin america! Pretty soon, "Banda" and "Rancheras" music will be blaring away 24/7 in Miami, and Spanglish will be the language of the day! jajaja.....i laugh when i hear people talk about there is no economic impact due to the invasion....

.Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 25, 2007, 10:50:

Miguel, go to south Dade and you will hear there already is Ranchera being played. There is a huge Mexican (legal and illegal) in Homestead, Florida City, and the Redlands areas. (Lots of year round agriculture jobs that don't require papers) And a Super Walmart: what else does an illegal need?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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miamimike says on Apr 25, 2007, 11:14:

RJ-rigjht you are and its only 15 minutes south of the Krome Detention center south down Krome Ave. They busted a big time operator in Homestead who was selling Fake Licenses, IDs, Green Cards ect a few months ago. He was part of that Mexican Family who was into franchising "Fake Paper Processing Centers" this was a multi million Dollar enterprise just in Homestead but the Main operation is a family out of Northern Mexico.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Apr 25, 2007, 11:17:

In the Florida Straits area, Why Not use Unmanned Drones to patrol the South Florida area? They work in Iraq and Afghanistan why not here? That way we would have 24 hour coverage on Illegals!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 25, 2007, 11:40:

I have only been to Miami/Orlando a handful of times to pick up extradited prisoners and return them to "home, sweet home", so i wouldnt even try to claim to be an expert on Miami/Florida...but i do think that if all those current aliens were in fact "legal residents" then WalMart would think twice about f#$king them over...Can you imagine what percentage of Identity Theft is attrituble to illegal aliens and the associated crime rings? (Note to J: i know others have huge hand in this as well...=) ) ....and fake ids just to get a job is only the tip of the ice berg....i have nothing against other mexicans, but, dammit, there is right way to enter the US by respecting our laws, and there is a wrong way to enter by violating our laws....if one choses the wrong way, then if bad things happen, well, sucks to be you! see ya, wouldnt want to be ya....and all the people going through the pain in the ass legal immigration process get my respect and sympathy...not the ones who say f-you America, and here i am so kiss my a$$!..and the legal immigrants seem more grateful for recieving a shot at the so-called "American Dream" and actually take pride in thier new country, as opposed to the ones currently here, taking advantage of the benefits like an economic mercenary....and demanding everything under the flag....I welcome all legal immigrants, but have no compassion for the illegals....both groups of immigrants have the identical reasons for heading north, so the law-abiding one should be welcome, and the law-violating one should get the boot.....

Off to the range where i get to burn up some city ammo and shoot some more people in the back, (paper targets really are so boring!) or so i have been accused....=)

(i saw a video one time from a military training exercise in Afghanistan, where the paper cardboard target was actually held above his head by a fellow Afghan soldier at a good distance away...needless to say, the "future marksman" student, with a brand new gun, actually hit the fool in the leg....Ouch! hahah...)



Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer...Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 26, 2007, 00:24:

Clavo, you wouldn't believe the stuff they have watching for illegals and bad guys entering the US down in south Florida. If you drive to Key West, you will notice a huge blimp like balloon on the north side of US 1 around Marathon Key. It isn't there for decoration. The number of Blackhawk choppers flying out of Homestead and NAS Key West is amazing too.

I understand your frustration about illegals. I just got through the K1 visa process with my now wife. It is incredible the crap we had to go through, with millions of illegals who are untouchable in a lot of cases here ... it just pisses me off. Anyway, yo entiendo.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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aztec says on Apr 26, 2007, 07:19:

Miami activist opposes push for immigration amnesty ''Amnesty for illegal workers is not just a slap in the face to black Americans. It's an economic disaster,''``to black Americans, amnesty is an immoral seizure of our jobs.


''I see illegal immigration and the adverse impact that it has on the political empowerment of African Americans, and the impact it has on the job market,''

http://www.miamiherald.com/884/story/86837.html

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miamimike says on Apr 26, 2007, 13:02:

Aztec, a Lot of us in Miami Oppose Amnesty why should these Gate Crashing Illegals and Tourist Visa Overstays go to the front of the Line ahead of those who are patiently waiting in line to acquire a Tourist Visa and accomplish the process in a legal manner? What message does this send to Law Abiding Visa Applicants? The Politicians wanting this Amnesty in south florida are George W and Jeb Bush, Illeana Ros Lehten, the Two Diaz Balart Brothers and Mel martinez!


Robert Jorge-That Blimp you see off Marathon also is used to Broadcast VOA Radio programs to Cuba-another hotbed of Cronyism here in Miami for the Cubans! Nice place to hire their reletives while the Cuban Goverment Jams all the VOA Radio Transmissions!! What a waste of Money! Take that VOA Blimp down and put its funding into Unmanned Aerial Drones!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 26, 2007, 15:24:

Amnesty=Rewarding Bad Behavior.....teach that to the kids! Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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cali373 says on Apr 26, 2007, 19:00:

let's get over it. illegal immigration will always be an issue on the rich countries, especially the former colonial powers and the U.S. I don't really care for it. It is the least of our problems.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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cali373 says on Apr 26, 2007, 19:03:

Hey expatriate, strangely enough I actually have to agree with scotty.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 26, 2007, 21:44:

i can certainly understand your frustration, UtopiaClown/Cochino I mean, if i had been b-slapped and "man"-handled by a female Mexican Cblog Moderator causing me to runaway with my tail between my legs, and then b-slapped again by a male mexican PBH poster, i would certainly be angry with mexicans too...probably talking major trauma here.....but i think you are losing it, though, kind of like the ThermoNuclear Meltdown virus that is going around...because in one thread you hate on anything mexican, especially mexican women (since it is obvious you are intimidated by females), then in this thread you write as if you are the Great White Hope for the Mexican people.....what a retard, Your Pasty and Pink Highness!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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