I want to live in Colombia - Any advice

Jimmyto says on Jan 14, 2005, 11:49:

I hate Bolivia - I love Colombia. Thx.

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Sam Salmon says on Jan 14, 2005, 12:40:

The poster known as............ Ignore the useless postings by the respondent above.
Going to the Embassy in Ottawa 'might' be of some use but look at teaching English as an easy way to enter the country-lots of info on this site.
As to "Some people have said that it is too much to give away - my life in Canada - but what can I do?" well my fiend I'm Canadian I love the place but life here isn't perfect and people in other places live very well indeed.
f I was younger I'd certainly consider moving to Colombia for a while at least.
And that too is part of my post-try to move to Colombia if it works out fine if not at your age you have all kinds of options.






' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

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umm says on Jan 15, 2005, 02:02:

No worries, everyone hates Bolivia and loves colombia.
Still, the Zampoña music in Bolivia is great.

UMM

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ElViajero says on Jan 15, 2005, 03:49:

Jimmy, thank you very much for that love for our country (surely your country). Bolivia for us is a great country, near to our origins as well, a “bolivariano” country, so our brother. I am really surprise that many foreigner, especially in Europe, with a little knowledge of our South American geography, use to confuse Colombia with Bolivia, and it is just because the name: Colombia reminds Bolivar, our common Libertador, than Venezuela. We wish one day to our Latin American countries a best future and a common progress.

I confess it is really surprising that a man living in a First World country has the desire to move to a country like Colombia. Many young Colombians would like to move to countries like Canada looking a best life. I myself am studying abroad, and sure, I would like to live in my dear own country, but I need first to finish studies, to work and to have the enough to be able to have good conditions to have a family, a house and so forth to be really happy. Surely you can get that in Colombia, working hard and with constancy, but for a young Colombian today to study or work abroad is a good opportunity. But I really tell you, the most important is your happiness. If you are a person of good and courage, and you have really love for people and the country, you can be very happy in our country as there are many Colombians living there as well. A good country can not be measured for its incomes, but for the happiness of its people and for the hope they have in their hearts to do a best future. None of the rich countries of our time have been made rich since ever: they were created by courageously people, who have believed that everything was possible with work and constancy. We need that for our Colombia as well: people who believe in Colombia and is ready to work for it, being inside or outside the country.

El Viajero Paisa

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ElViajero says on Jan 15, 2005, 03:50:

The following are some fragments of the Article 96 and 100 of the Constitucion Nacional de Colombia that can be interested for you:

ARTICULO 96. Son nacionales colombianos:
1. Por nacimiento:
a) Los naturales de Colombia, que con una de dos condiciones: que el padre o la madre hayan sido naturales o nacionales colombianos o que, siendo hijos de extranjeros, alguno de sus padres estuviere domiciliado en la República en el momento del nacimiento y;
b) Los hijos de padre o madre colombianos que hubieren nacido en tierra extranjera y fuego se domiciliaren en territorio colombiano o registraren en una oficina consular de la República.
2. Por adopción:
a) Los extranjeros que soliciten y obtengan carta de naturalizaci6n, de acuerdo con la ley, la cual establecerá los casos en los cuales se pierde la nacionalidad colombiana por adopción;
B) LOS LATINOAMERICANOS Y DEL CARIBE POR NACIMIENTO DOMICILIADOS EN COLOMBIA, QUE CON AUTORIZACIÓN DEL GOBIERNO Y DE ACUERDO CON LA LEY Y EL PRINCIPIO DE RECIPROCIDAD, PIDAN SER INSCRITOS COMO COLOMBIANOS ANTE LA MUNICIPALIDAD DONDE SE ESTABLECIEREN, Y;
c) Los miembros de los pueblos indígenas que comparten territorios fronterizos, con aplicación del principio de reciprocidad según tratados públicos.
Ningún colombiano por nacimiento podrá ser privado de su nacionalidad. La calidad de nacional colombiano no se pierde por el hecho de adquirir otra nacionalidad. Los nacionales por adopci6n no estarán obligados a renunciar a su nacionalidad de origen o adopción.
Quienes hayan renunciado a la nacionalidad colombiana podrán recobrarla con arreglo a la ley.
* Artículo modificado por Acto Legislativo 1/2002.
ARTICULO 97. El colombiano, aunque haya renunciado a la calidad de nacional, que actúe contra los intereses del país en guerra exterior contra Colombia, será juzgado y penado como traidor.
Los colombianos por adopción y los extranjeros domiciliados en Colombia, no podrán ser obligados a tomar las armas contra su país de origen; tampoco lo serán los colombianos nacionalizados en país extranjero, contra el país de su nueva nacionalidad.

ARTICULO 100. Los extranjeros disfrutarán en Colombia de los mismos derechos civiles que se conceden a los colombianos. No obstante, la ley podrá, por razones de orden público, subordinar a condiciones especiales o negar el ejercicio de determinados derechos civiles a los extranjeros.
Así mismo, los extranjeros gozarán, en el territorio de la República, de las garantías concedidas a los nacionales, salvo las limitaciones que establezcan la Constitución o la ley.
Los derechos políticos se reservan a los nacionales, pero la ley podrá conceder a los extranjeros residentes en Colombia el derecho al voto en las elecciones y consultas populares de carácter municipal o distrital.

You can have the full text in http://www.georgetown.edu/pdba/Constitutions/Colombia/col91.html
With the text also in English… Our Constitution is one of the largest constitution in the world. I good subject for a post…

El Viajero Paisa

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viewpoint says on Jan 15, 2005, 09:16:

Jimmyto I would submit a copy of your College Degree in Aircraft Maintenance and an employment application to COPA Airlines in Panama City as you would get paid twice as much money as Colombia plus you could fly free on your weekends or vacations to Colombia. Jimmy Jet Setter

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ColombianoX says on Jan 15, 2005, 10:58:

jagarzon78,

What makes you think Jimmy can't make good money while living in Colombia? He can make good money if he works for a canadian multinational company and may even get paid a canadian salary! Then he'd live like a king! Just because you were "un chichipato muerto de hambre" in Colombia, don't come here and knock living there, loser.

ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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ColombianoX says on Jan 15, 2005, 11:33:

jagarzon78,

Con esa forma tan baja de expresarse, se nota que usted es sólo una chusma de primera! Qué bueno que usted se largó de Colombia, allá no necesitamos más basura como usted.

Trabajar para una multinacional extranjera en Colombia no es ningún sueño, conozco gente que lo hacen, bueno tal vez sí sería un sueño para un imbécil sin educación como usted, pero no para un tipo preparado como Jimmy.


ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombiannidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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ColombianoX says on Jan 15, 2005, 12:23:

jagarzon,

How old are you? I realize there really is no point in debating with an urchin such as yourself.


CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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lpdiver says on Jan 15, 2005, 12:36:

CX Wasn't he in Colombia A few threads back?

"cook some rice!"

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jan 15, 2005, 13:40:

Before this gets too out of hand, Some of the posters should exchange email addresses and go have a rumble in Miami. But no more personal insults online, please.

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juanalejo says on Jan 15, 2005, 15:35:

Jimmy Contrary to what most people tend to say here, I am a firm believer that if you want you can make a very good living in Colombia. The biggest problem here is that people with little or no education can not really make it, but those who one way or another can study are able to make a decent living. I also believe that not only money is everything, but also that is goes farther here. My parents helped me through highschool, but through college I had to work my ass off to help myself. I started from zero, although not needing to help my family like many Colombians have to. Now I have a fantastic job, have a nice flat, great car, a small finca, travel on my job and on holidays, I do not know what to ask of life. Maybe I do not change my TV but every 10 years, or my fridge in 20 but I have no interest in it. Contrary to many of my friends who have emigrated, I can afford dinner out two or three times a week, three holidays a year, etc. I am aware not everybody has the same luck, but most people I work with can afford the same to a least a lesser degree, and non of them are wealthy family kids whose life has been without hardships. There is poverty in Colombia, but also middle class and upper class, education unfortunatelly divides the first set of people from the second and third, but once education is there you at least will make a very decent living and if you are lucky much more. And before any of the doom and gloom come around never used a "palanca" in my life nor bribed even a police officer to get around life.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 15, 2005, 16:01:

That's enough Dieter and jagarzon78's accounts have been deleted, which also means that all their posts have been removed. I have been running this site for 5 years, and personal insults will not be tolerated. Live with it or open your own website. The rules are pretty clear, go check them out if you haven't already. This thread is also closed for comments.

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