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I want to have plastic surgery done, I need help and advice

I am thinking of having plastic surgery done in colombia, i have heard that there is a great plastic surgeon in Cali called Alan Gonzales who works in clinica Valle del Lily and also works in bogota (don't know where) has anyone heard about him before? has he got good reputation?, i want to make sure that i get the best plastic surgeon possible, does any of you know of any good plastic surgeons in Cali? most importantly do you know anything about the costs?? i have heard that plastic surgery in colombia is good and cheaper than in london (in london i would spend $12 million pesos in a breast enlargement alone!) but i'm not quite sure how much cheaper it would be if i have it done in colombia. i am thinking of having a breast enlargement, liposuccion and a minileptomia i know that each person is different and that they charge according to the person's body and needs but i wanna have a rough idea on how much money i will spend there if you people know then i would be really grateful if you let me know it's very difficult to get a quotation since i don't live in colombia. thanks for your help guys and sorry to bother you once again i know this subject has been talked about many times before but i haven't been able to find the info on costs, thanks again guys!

By nanis on Aug 13, 2005, 09:12 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 09:18:

Start with a "Google" of this site on Plastic surgery You will find a lot of information instantly if you simply go to the upper right hand corner and Google plastic surgery. This topic has appeared here many times before and I can't how much new info you will get that is not already in past thread.

Besides...you are beautiful already. Are you trying to change your image since your divorce? There are many men that will love you just as you are....with only slightly less party time

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ronald1168 says on Aug 13, 2005, 09:22:

Plastic surgeon I would be very carefull



Ronald Donders
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nanis says on Aug 13, 2005, 09:46:

Gomezman i tried that already but i didn't get any feed back on the costs anyway most of the surgeons they talk about are in bogota and i want to know about plastic surgeons in Cali and thanks for telling me that someone will love me for who i am but i'm not trying to change myself for a man i'm doing it for me.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 09:57:

No noooo Ms. Gomez I did not mean that at all. I did not mean for you to interpret that you need surgery for another man. You are very attractive....uh beautiful in fact (from the photos)

On the other hand, everyone has the right to do what is best for him/her. Good luck

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Crazy4Cali says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:04:

It's not my place to judge... but after your very recent post about what happened to you in Colombia a few months ago, you might think about spending some money on talking to a good (not just any) counselor/psychologist about it.

Again, this is just one anonymous internet voice speaking, but looking at you (your photos, anyway) from the outside, I'm hard-pressed to find anything in need of repair and fixing up the outside won't change much on the inside.

Either way, I'd be careful about making any dramatic (and somewhat irreversable) changes this soon after a traumatic experience. Best of luck with your decision, in any case.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:10:

Crazy4Cali There is an element of truth to your post...

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Lauthra says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:13:

I will ask my mum, one of her childhood friend's is a plastic surgeon, he might know lots in the field. I will post the info in a few days.

I must say, you are very hot as you are ;)

Nato

(='.'=)

Nato (='.'=)

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nanis says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:22:

Thanks for info lauthra you're always so helpful.

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nanis says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:33:

thanks guys but i have been through that already anyway, it was very hard at first but things are much easier now i want to move on with my life and i have considered plastic surgery for a long time not just now, and i have never got around to making the decision but i am more determined than ever and thanks for being sweet i don't look that bad but after having my daughter my body changed a lot and i want it back especially knowing that i am not able to have more kids. thanks anyway i won't get angry because what you say is the truth they are really sweet posts

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:37:

It's only because we care And I am sure many out here really do care about your well being.

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vicshere says on Aug 13, 2005, 10:40:

Mrs. G "I don't look that bad" is the biggest understatement I have seen here in the longest time.....your one hot babe if you don't mind me saying....if I wasn't married already I would be chasing your ass all over the place hehehehehe have a good day... i can bee such a pig sometimes no wonder i fit in so well down here


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tomtom33 says on Aug 13, 2005, 11:26:

Jeez Vic Now you are saying that all men living in Colombia are pigs?

Oink, oink!!

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vicshere says on Aug 13, 2005, 11:32:

did i say that? I will have to take form a commission and find out if all Colombian men are pigs...90% of the ones I met are...does that tell you anything heheheehehe


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Vic
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nanis says on Aug 13, 2005, 11:37:

why is it that everytime i start a thread it gets hijacked? it's funny because i really need this info and i'm not getting anything but people telling me to go to the Psychologist and others calling themselves pigs??? nah just joking with you guys but please real info next time not just insults!

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adela says on Aug 13, 2005, 11:47:

Cali
I have a friend who knows all the secrets about plastic surgeons in Cali. She works with most of them...if you like, I can share with you my frien's list( best ones). Pm me

Màs fe, màs abrazos, màs besos, màs disculpas, màs visitas a nuestros amigos antiguos nos haràn màs plenos cada vez.

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kernow62 says on Aug 13, 2005, 11:55:

Sorry about hijacking your thread but in a British magazine 95% of the men favoured natural breasts even small ones and only 5% actually preferred fake tits. Now I realise you are doing this for you, but why to make yourself more attractive to women, to yourself?

Anyway it sounds like your mind is made up so why not ask a few chicas in Cali where they bought their tits, it is easy enough to spot them, I am sure you could get some good recommendations.

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nanis says on Aug 13, 2005, 12:09:

hey kernow i'm not in cali anymore so it will be difficult to ask them! but just to let you know i'm not buying myself a new set of tits to impress other girls or even to make men fall at my feet i want to do it to boost my already low self-esteem.

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kernow62 says on Aug 13, 2005, 13:05:

Good, I'm glad you cleared that up.

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kernow62 says on Aug 13, 2005, 13:06:

Calipro can perhaps get the info for you.

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vicshere says on Aug 13, 2005, 13:24:

zipping mouth and keeping quite now

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Lostgringo says on Aug 13, 2005, 14:01:

self esteem Mrs. Gomez I do not think having your breasts enlarged will bring you any more self esteem. In fact it may do the opposite. For example, you may attract the wrong kind of guys. You know the type, the Shallow Hal kind of guy. If you do not see yourself as beautiful now, then having large breasts will not do it either. In my humble opinion. Look in the mirror! You are beautiful. Read the post again about men liking women with natural breasts. I hear you saying that it is just for yourself but somehow I can't believe you are not doing to have men look at you. To draw attention to yourself and to re-affirm your beauty.

At any rate, as mentioned above it is your own body to do with as you will. Again, in my opinion you do not need to improve on your beauty.

Frank

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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jbk0904 says on Aug 13, 2005, 17:19:

I want to see Ur fotos I would like to see you in fotos. Then I will recommend some of plastic surgeons..They are quite good in Colombia... But think about one more time. If you need it really, let me know. jbk0904 at hotmail.com

Jay

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 18:23:

Kernow......you are in perfect form But look you guys...will you all quit playing gynecologist....pardon me, psychologists, and let Ms. Gomez do what the hell she wants to do.

Her last name is Gomez, and as far ask I am concerned, anyone with the last name Gomez must have a good idea how to seperate the forests from the trees. In other words, she is not a kid, she knows what's best for Gomez.

Who knows, maybe she is even related to me. Or maybe she shuold be related to me. I like her just the way she is, no matter what her tits like.

Gomez....vaya se... compra la

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rjstuff says on Aug 13, 2005, 19:00:

Hey go for it Here is what you must become after all your surgeries - http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/12293

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Lostgringo says on Aug 13, 2005, 21:21:

gomezman5 If I didn't not try to caution Mrs. Gomez, I would feel bad. I am not trying to play psychologist just trying to point out a few things she could consider. I would do that for a friend. If I did not care about her well being I would not try to help. Gomezman5 stop trying to get brownie points here. What this young and beautifull girl is thinking about or doing can make her life change or NOT. Pardon me for trying help in some small way.

And, no I am not psychologist. I am just trying to give some friendly advice.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 21:34:

Brownie points? Ja Ja...If I want a brownie, I'll go to the bakery.

Actually, I am just joking about the whole darn thing. Look, I'm going to say something now and now I am serious, and if you don't believe me franko, just ask any woman you know that has had her tits done.

It goes something like this: If a woman want to get her tits redone, so that they are bigger, sexier, reformed, reshaped,...call it what you want, but she is going do it without regard to what ANYONE thinks. I can tell you that with a reasonable degree of certaintly. But I will also tell you this, she DEFINITEYLY is not going to take the advise about whether to do it or not to do it from a person on the internet that she does not even know.

In other words Franko my man, you are wasteing your key strokes. This girl is not going to give a hoot about what you (or myself for that matter) have to say.

And if you think about it....should she give a hoot? Really!!

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Lostgringo says on Aug 13, 2005, 21:55:

gomezman5 You may be correct. However, I felt my duty to point out a few things. Enought said. This is her thread not ours.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 13, 2005, 22:37:

Franko_44 ......I can't argue with your logic and I can't argue with the fact that you have the best of intentions and you are right a third time----it is her thread.

In fact, you're right on a fourth count, it never hurts to try, and that you did.....

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Sylvie says on Aug 13, 2005, 22:39:

Mrs. Gomez, what is minileptomia?

I say that you look on google and see what credits each doctor has. Typically if they're recognized by medical assocations like the American Plastic surgeons associations you'll find a lot of informatrion on them. (Like how long they've been doing the surgeries and what they're specialty is)

Reccomendations from friends and other doctors is good too.

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kernow62 says on Aug 14, 2005, 06:23:

Should she give a hoot? That isn't the question, the question is where to get hooters!

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rjstuff says on Aug 14, 2005, 08:36:

maybe she is getting rid of a hoot - so she is "giving up a hoot" (similar to "give a hoot".) I have heard of women with three t***.

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aztec says on Aug 14, 2005, 08:52:

Sylvie Did you mean minilaparotomy?

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nanis says on Aug 14, 2005, 08:59:

guys minileptomia is a mini abdominoplasty combined with lipo

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 14, 2005, 10:21:

Do they do these mini bla blas for men? If they do, then maybe Kernow can get one. All that hog kidney pie he has been eating is starting to show.

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 11:06:

Whatever happened to eating right and exercising? I’ve been under the knife for medical reasons and I hated it. I wouldn’t voluntarily go under the knife because it hurts like crazy.

Women who do this are very brave because its nothing that 6 months of dieting and jogging couldn’t cure.

Just my two cents.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 14, 2005, 11:30:

And Sylive....you are %100 correct I don't like paying $82 a month (but it's a nice club) but paying the money keeps me going. And, it has a lot of machines, a pool etc, etc. The variety keeps me interested. In any event, it's still cheaper than surgery with a hell of a lot less risk. Also, surgery is not going to help much if you go back to your old sedentary ways and poor eating habits...

So, I'm with you on this one!!

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 11:57:

I don't even pay for a club membership. We have a gym in our house but I never use it anyway.

Jogging is what I do. It's cheap, it makes a healthy heart and lungs, and it works. My butt and legs look awesome because of it. In the winter I just jump on a treadmill because where I live there is a bunch of hills and could just imagine myself falling on the ice and sliding all the way down the hills.

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vicshere says on Aug 14, 2005, 12:02:

sylvie how about a pic of that awesome butt and legs....

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 14, 2005, 12:06:

Hey hey Vic..... What about that beautiful wife of yours??? Ok.....your only looking. And, Sylvie is worth taking a look at. Especially if she is willing to "demonstrate" the results of her hard work.

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nanis says on Aug 14, 2005, 12:12:

sylvie i have never done exercise because i hate it i do dance and have lots of sex and that keeps me healthy i don't have a problem with my legs or butt on the contrary those are my best assets, but if you have children you would know that after giving birth your body changes i have got a great body (tiny waist big hips big butt) for a person who has never been to a gym in her life but i want to get rid of some strech marks that i got in my lower tummy that's why i want to get a mimiplastia done it is not as dramatic as the abdominoplasty which is for women who have just given birth or loosed weight. i aslo want to make my breast bigger because after breast fedding my daughter for almost 2 years my breast went 1 size down and i want the fullness feeling of my old breasts back. now that can't be fixed by exercising can it?

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kernow62 says on Aug 14, 2005, 14:07:

Sure it can Mrs. G, just do a bit of the old horizontal mambo you seem to enjoy so much, get yourself a workout and knocked up all at the same time. Voila, full breasts without surgery.

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 15:12:

Mrs. G. If you see a personal trainer they can show you exercises for your pectoral muscles that would make your breasts perky and firm. And I know plenty of women with tight tummies who've had 3 children and got their tight tummies from crunches and leg lifts. It’s not impossible. My mom is 54 years old and has 3 kids. She started working her tummy about 3 years ago and she has the perfect tummy.

It may not seem fun to you at first but then you'll begin to love doing it. Plus it keeps you healthy. Surgery is only temporary; breast implants have to be replaced every 9 years and can be dangerous. Lipo is good at first but then if you gain a tiny bit of weight you'll have dumps all over the places you had the lipo. It will look like an unsightly case of cellulite. Plus sex is only a good cardio workout if you have it for and hour straigh every day.... if you can find a guy who can last that long then you're one lucky woman! hehe

MY suggestion is to really think about that before you go through with expensive surgery. In the end it may not be worth it. I know your going through tough times with your husband leaving and all so maybe you're just thinking this way as a quick fix?

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Lostgringo says on Aug 14, 2005, 15:23:

Sylvia I thought you were a spoiled Brat Yea I thought you were nothing but spoiled Brat and maybe you are. However, you are an intelligent and wise woman beyond your years. I think you made some very important and valid points.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 15:27:

Franko, you're like my grandmother. You give and insult and then you accompany it with a compliment. I thought only grandmas knew how to do that? lol

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vicshere says on Aug 14, 2005, 15:28:

sylvie just checked you profile and still no pics....what's up with that lets see em ...... a pic of that awesome butt and legs....don't be afraid now or if your embarrassed send me a pic to my email....I wouldn't send it around ok promise

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 16:48:

Vicshere, do I seem like a whore who wants to degrade myself so some old guys on an internet forum can get a boner from looking at my ass and thighs?

Sorry, that aint my thing. My ass and thighs are kept for my boyfriend and boy does he go gaga over them. :-)

And even if I wanted the attention I still wouldn't post my picture in my image gallery because I don't know how. I've tried to upload pictures from my vacations in Colombia but I cant seem to upload any of the pictures without getting and error page.

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kernow62 says on Aug 14, 2005, 17:31:

Sylvie; Peter, the forum owner is working on some updates for the site and he hopes as do many of us that the picture uploading problem will be fixed at that time. I have quite a few photos I have been wanting to upload and not being able to has been very frustrating.

My wife does her crunches each morning, I watch. She's got a 6 pack and I've got a keg.

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vicshere says on Aug 14, 2005, 17:32:

woow
hey who said anything about a whore ..you stated 2 times you have nice butt and thighs...to me this is an indication of seeking attention...so therefore if you want attention post your pics and everyone will get over it..as for a boner I doubt it... it will take more than your butt and thighs i am afraid.. I am not that easy



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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 17:39:

Vic, you're very mistaken. I'm merely mentioned it ONCE to convince Mrs. G that she doesn't need to take such drastic measures and all she has to do is exercise. I seriously dont need anyone's attention on this site. Trust me on that.

You asked to see a picture 3 or 4 times already, makes you sound desperate to see butts.

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Sylvie says on Aug 14, 2005, 17:56:

Glad to hear it kernow62. I have quite a few pictures from my vacations to Colombia.

Nice to know that your wife didn't have to go through surgery to have her abs. Typically after someone does cruches and leg lifts for about 3 weeks they start noticing a difference.

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Lostgringo says on Aug 14, 2005, 18:11:

Sylvie There are alot of "man whores" on this site. Say or allude to anything sexual and they are like blood hounds..only they are after something else ... Another thing DON'T ever give out your pics that may be sexual in nature to these hounds. Many a reputation has been runed by some guys posting pictures all over the net...You had better know someone very well before doing this....

I have pictures (not sexual) of my girlfriend and no way will I post them on this site. Not now anyway, because I have seen too many rude and sexist remarks on this site lately. Too much gutter language for my liking and it comes from the women too. I am sure I will get flamed for this but it is the way I feel.

Just a little advise not meant to lecture you Sylvie.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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tomtom33 says on Aug 14, 2005, 18:47:

Photos on site Just go to create content. The only trick is not to preview. Just post. It worked within the last couple of weeks for me.

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marmc says on Sep 19, 2005, 11:06:

Great company Hi,

Are you still in your country? I am going to Colombia at the end of this month to get some plastic surgery. If you want to be leading by me, I'll be happy to do all these thing together. I am Colombian and can help you a lot.
You can write to my personal e-mail marcela_harmes at yahoo.com.

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Cel says on Nov 13, 2005, 11:57:

Where to stay while having plastic surgery in Cali Many Americans having plastic surgery done in Cali stay at Cali Plaza Hotel while recuperating, because it is American owned and most everyone staying there is from USA. Cali Plaza has apartments and hotel rooms. The owner and manager speak English and are very helpful. Many clinics refer their patients there. You can view the hotel and info at www.caliplaza.com

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Tamara says on Nov 13, 2005, 12:53:

Ernesto Andrade Hi
I know Ernesto Andrade for years, he is the best Plastic Surgeon in Colombia
I knew from a friend that lives in Miami that she paid 12,000,000 pesos for a complete lipo and breast... she is perfect today after two babies.
Later other friend talked to him but she wasnt sure, he helped to think about it better and making her understand that it wasnt her time. He is good!
Go for it! doctorandrade at cable.net.co

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Tamara says on Nov 13, 2005, 12:57:

Xtreme Makeover Ernesto Andrade is also the surgeon at Xtreme Makeover colombian version.
Copy and paste this link
http://www.canalrcn.com/programas/cambioExtremo/index.php?op=secciones&idI=1&idS=367&idP=399&PHPSESSID=24921cc56f4bc420bcf6ee347c0707a1

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