i tried that most popular of colombian exports for the first time yesterday

papiChulo says on Nov 22, 2008, 00:07:

yeah jon stay away from coffee its over rated drink tea its better for you... ;)

avoid the unhappy and the unlucky

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papiChulo says on Nov 22, 2008, 00:09:

and I agree colombiana pie is much better.... I'd kill for that... :)

avoid the unhappy and the unlucky

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 02:43:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 02:47:

aztec says on Nov 22, 2008, 05:44:

Peter we may not be addicted but my wife and I cannot start the day without some of this Colombian "stuff"!

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Papi de Alejo says on Nov 22, 2008, 07:00:

OHHH KAAAAAAY!!!!!!! ????????

PdA

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vicshere says on Nov 22, 2008, 10:08:

the OP is nothing but a troll type post looking for arguments from the members

listo

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asdfn says on Nov 22, 2008, 11:27:

thats funny,I always explain it to people as a drug with the primary effect that it makes you want more of it in the following few hours, and makes you never want to do it again the next day.

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 12:31:

billyb says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:02:

asdfn, that reminds the old of the saying "when I do a line, I feel like a new man, and the first thing the new man wants to do, is another line".

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:18:

durito2 says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:54:

juan valdez is much better than starbucks

colombian coffee is far from the best in the world

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corporalgator (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:37:

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:39:

Nice to see that, on the whole, independent experts still consider Colombian coffee as one of the best in the world:

http://www.coffeereview.com/article.cfm?ID=115

http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/southamerica/a/CulCoffee.htm

http://www.coffeereview.com/allreviews.cfm?search=1

http://www.agrotropical.andes.com/coffee/colombian_coffee_trees_and_be...

I've got about a hundred more links confirming that Colombian coffee is one of the best in the world, but then I don't wish to overdo it... ;-)

Better to have tried and failed than having regrets all your life about what you MIGHT have missed

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dwmte7 says on Nov 23, 2008, 04:01:

let's see now...musta been a light year ago....but one day after being around it for countless years, (this was in bev hills) i tried colombia's most NOTORIOUS export, and you know what? i liked it.

dwmte

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capt_j says on Nov 23, 2008, 09:06:

The coffee at Juan Valdez? OK but not great.

Colombia's best product? The pie, by far.

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dwmte7 says on Nov 23, 2008, 11:18:

juancho needs to revamp his packaging. no body has a clue what they're describing.

dwmte

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dwmte7 says on Nov 23, 2008, 19:24:

cunt dust?

dwmte

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Mongo says on Nov 23, 2008, 20:54:

Darloup, you don't need links.....you're French.

One thing about the French; they know about good food, good wine, and I'm sure, good coffee!

"Here in Colombia, it's about adding life to your years, not years to your life." Brian Andrews

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Lowell says on Nov 24, 2008, 08:12:

I tried the stuff several times too. Not for me. Give me good bud and I'm just fine.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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dwmte7 says on Nov 24, 2008, 13:24:

i dunno, brother lowell, i'm old now and party is a bit rare, but there's still a real soft spot in my heart for that ole 'mother of pearl'.............when i'm up in the finca (llano grande) i'll hang out with a bunch of friends and we'll party for a couple of days and life's good. peace.

douglas

dwmte

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manINred says on Nov 24, 2008, 17:05:

"but I felt no happiness or euphoria or anything that would make me want to repeat the experience"

One must therefore question the quality of what you tried, then!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 25, 2008, 21:42:

nueva york bombero says on Nov 26, 2008, 06:12:

I would like to comment, but I am a civil servant. I'd probably get myself in trouble.........

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capitan_centella says on Nov 28, 2008, 00:54:

nope.

Empanadas beat the crap out of any pie ! any time !

with masato. . . its just a killer combination.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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kalder says on Nov 28, 2008, 02:35:

"Empanadas beat the crap out of any pie ! any time !"

No they don't.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Adriana_Garcia-Ortega says on Nov 28, 2008, 10:08:

The best combination, Coffee and Empanada.

Colombian coffee is by far the best coffee in the entire UNIVERSE, regardless my opinion is biased as Im colombian, Colombian coffee is so nice and tasty. I dont like strong coffees. A Colombian coffee is like a night of love. Dark, Hot and sweet

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La_Huella says on Nov 28, 2008, 14:41:

Most Colombian coffee is robusto and not arabico these days unfortunately. It USED to be 100% arabico but they got greedy :P

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 08:39:

Mongo says on Nov 29, 2008, 13:54:

They didn't. Colombian coffee is Arabica.

I don't know where La Huella got that from...

"Here in Colombia, it's about adding life to your years, not years to your life." Brian Andrews

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:05:

Mongo says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:11:

Hey, hey now....I'm a pedigree....:)

If he has links to support that staement, I'd like to see them. I've read a whole lot about Colombian coffee, and my novia lives right in the heart of coffee country (Armenia), and I've always heard that it is Arabica.

"Here in Colombia, it's about adding life to your years, not years to your life." Brian Andrews

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billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:12:

From Wikie

"Colombian coffee, also known as Colombian Mild, is characterized by its soft terroir. Only crops of Coffea arabica of Maragogype, Caturra, Typica and Bourbon cultivars, among others, are grown. When Colombian coffee is freshly roasted it has a bright acidity, is heavy in body and is intensely aromatic."

I agree, I've never seen anything, but Arabica, maybe La Huella has seen Robusto plants at all the coffee fincas he's been to?

http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/colombia.htm

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:17:

billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:23:

It used to be the case, as Colombia back in the day never really had a coffee culture and colombians were happy enough drinking "pasilla", but now with JV and other coffee shops opening up all over the place, they are starting to retain some of the premium coffee for domestic comsumption, but I would guess the the great majority of the good stuff still makes its way abroad.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 14:26:

goin_south says on Nov 29, 2008, 19:48:

just about all coffee seems better, ..the more finely it is ground, no?

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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goin_south says on Nov 29, 2008, 19:50:

Sometimes, maybe it is psychological.
My first trip to Colombia, I brought back some gold foiled bags of Quindio Especiale or Premier whatever,... and it was the Best Coffee I'd ever had.
A year or so ago, I brought some more back.... same coffee, .. but it jus seemed... so, so.

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 21:34:

"Shame on whoever started this policy to earn of few quick bucks on the export front..."

I hear you darloup, but it is understandable from their (the growers and exporters) point of view, because colombians didn't care and more importantly, were not willing to pay for premium coffee, but now the worm is turning.

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Mongo says on Nov 29, 2008, 21:43:

The same thing occurs in Machala, Ecuador. All the best banannas go to the USA.

Of course, hundreds of them drop into the streets, out of the backs of the dump trucks that carry them through the city. So the locals do get some of them, although still green and slightly bruised....

"Here in Colombia, it's about adding life to your years, not years to your life." Brian Andrews

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 22:12:

billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 22:20:

Yes Darloup, it is ashame. But it is changing, i had a coffee in this place called "cafe portofino", on la novena in Granada, Cali, it was owned by a colombian couple that had spent time in France and Italy(countries that have real coffee culture) and were ashamed that colombia, as we have mentioned, doesn't keep the best coffee for itself, so they learned every aspect of the coffee business and found the best gourmet coffee producers in Colombia, and beleive me, it is some of the best coffee you have ever tasted. Unfortunately, it is the exeption and not the rule.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 22:35:

billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 22:56:

Darloup, I never tried the kenyan, but i hear it is very good. Same with the Jamaican Blue Mountain, have you tried it? I have tried the Kona in Hawaii, excellent.

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billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 22:59:

Here (SF calif) it is about $10 USD for a pound of premuim ground coffee. How many grams in a pound? I heard that for every cup of coffee from Starbucks, which they get $1.65 for a drip, the grower only gets 7 cents, it is a crime.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 29, 2008, 23:02:

billyb says on Nov 29, 2008, 23:26:

I know, I don't know what Huella was talking about with Robusta, no self respecting coffee grower in Colombia would grow Robusta, that is what they grow in the flatlands of Vietnam, which just passed up Colombia as the second producer after Brazil. The trend right now in Colombia is not to compete in quantity with garbage producers like vietnam and to a lesser extent Brazil, but to focus on quality and specialty coffees that although you get a lower yield (generally a good sign of quality), they make it up by commanding a premium price.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_Blue_Mountain_Coffee

http://www.koacoffee.com/

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 30, 2008, 00:08:

billyb says on Nov 30, 2008, 00:18:

Darloup, you are true coffee lover. If we are ever in Cali at the same time, I will invite you to the place I mentioned above, I am sure you will appreciate it.

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billyb says on Nov 30, 2008, 00:22:

Hey darloup, have you heard of that coffe from Indonesia? I can't recall which Island, i believ it is Borneo, and it is cofffe that Civets eat and "pass through" their system whole, well the whole "process" gives the beans an arome and taste that, for a better term, is unique, and it sells for about $27 a pound.

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romy says on Nov 30, 2008, 08:21:

I'm going to have to look for this 'cafe portofino'

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 30, 2008, 14:12:

Billy,

Found this thread on the "civet coffee": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

Hmmmm, it sounds... original to say the least!

Better to have tried and failed than having regrets all your life about what you MIGHT have missed

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minina says on Nov 30, 2008, 16:46:

Now think about it for a minute....It's Coffee Colombia's most popular export? Maybe legal it is, but not otherwise.

DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS...

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capitan_centella says on Dec 1, 2008, 03:11:

kalder. . .

Im not talking about greasy empanadas made with yesterdays leftovers. (downtown empanadas) You should try homemade empanads del kiosko. (any person from CEDRITOS know it).

And I tried pies here, and there´s no fuzz about it.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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cfG21 says on Dec 6, 2008, 11:03:

Meh i just drnk hot chocolate

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billyb says on Dec 6, 2008, 18:24:

"I'm going to have to look for this 'cafe portofino"

TEn la novena, creo que con 26, en Granada. try it, they roast their own coffee on premise and you can watch the process.

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goin_south says on Dec 6, 2008, 22:55:

tons of coffeee?
tons of cocaine??
que mas?

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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billyb says on Dec 7, 2008, 10:08:

Romy, my bad, the name of the cafe is Palo Alto, portofino is another place I was thinking of. I noticed that you like your cafes, so this one will be right up your allay. Same address novena con 26th or there abouts.

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BillBigD says on Dec 7, 2008, 11:01:

Jamaican Blue Mountain is excellent

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