I got an E-mail from Peter.

tomtom33 says on Jul 29, 2007, 08:41:

Here is the photo.

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Gator says on Jul 29, 2007, 08:44:

What you think and I th1nk matters not-it's Peter's site.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

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morphus says on Jul 29, 2007, 09:07:

It looks ok to me.

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 09:10:

ella tiene damasiada ropa, quizaaaa....

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 29, 2007, 09:43:

Do you mean your current avatar? The girl with the white shorts? If so, that doesn't seem bad, but it is Peter's site.

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Miguel says on Jul 29, 2007, 09:48:

tomtom33, I understand why you have questions. That photo is much less inappropriate than about 75% of the content posted on PBH. Yet it is Peter's sandbox, so it is what it is.

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Chelesupercono says on Jul 29, 2007, 10:55:

I for one need a whole lot of giudance on what is appropriate after that photo!!!! Help!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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panthdave says on Jul 29, 2007, 11:06:

I personally don't see anything wrong there is no nudity nor the girl does not look that young..and is faded..

Maybe Peter wants a change...

panthdave Miami

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robi666 says on Jul 29, 2007, 11:38:

Maybe the reason is... could she be Peter's girlfriend?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 11:41:

i think her husband expressed his objections.....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 11:59:

the foto lacks clarity!

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:01:

It should be a picture of yourself (or a duck or a nail, I suppose), but not some girl.

Poor but snappy

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:04:

can anyone verify that tomtom isn't in fact, a girl?
I mean, what's in a name?

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:06:

please, Peter, no ducks! jajaja...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:06:

"Libertad y Orden"
It's the motto of Colombia (go figure!)

_______


.(kiddin...the colombians)
but, maybe the new motto for PBH, as well.

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:14:

Ducks cannot be dis-allowed.
Because I have tried to change my foto
ten times, ....sin exito.

Maybe that's tomtom's problem as well.

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:21:

yup, that crackmonster-looking duck has got to go...jajjajajaja....sorry, GS i couldnt resist....that duck is cool....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:27:

In the last 20 minutes, I have attempted to change my fotocon to....about 20 other pics.
Seriously, .... no success.
what gives?

Stuck....Soy uno Patito por siempre ;)

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:36:

hey TT33...feel privelidged! i think Peter has me on IGNORE! jajajajaja....jk

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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RAAAY says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:40:

.............

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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RAAAY says on Jul 29, 2007, 12:41:

Ah,,,,,,,,,,,just checking to see if pic changed..............it kept reverting to the one I was told to lose.............

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 13:34:

privileged....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel says on Jul 29, 2007, 13:57:

You don't know why El Patron has a problem with tomtom33's picture? JA JA.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 14:06:

maybe the blingbling jacket? =)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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tomtom33 says on Jul 29, 2007, 16:56:

It is not a picture of "some girl." She has been a friend of mine for over a year. She is a lot easier on the eyes than I am.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 29, 2007, 17:31:

you convinced us, TT33, in that case....keep the girl photo....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Lowell says on Jul 29, 2007, 19:09:

I found that to change your pic you have to go return the posted photo to the one provided by PBH and then upload a new one.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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goin_south says on Jul 29, 2007, 19:35:

Lowell, and then.... didn't you have to 'log out' and 'log-in' again? for the foto to change?

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 30, 2007, 00:15:

Sweethearts, does that mean my avatar is unacceptable?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 01:49:

Yea, consistency :) We're kind of figuring it out as we go... I don't think male members with photos of girls is what we want, so maybe we shouldn't allow it? Or else, we don't care and let it be?

Poor but snappy

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gringolondinense says on Jul 30, 2007, 03:24:

I didnt realise MCs photo was a nail..kindof looks like a bullet....from a distance

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Lucho562 says on Jul 30, 2007, 07:28:

Let it be

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gringoloid says on Jul 30, 2007, 09:19:

yeah, its a tough one! I think the owner is trying to achieve a more distinguished level of conversation.

As for Robert Jorge, who writes very helpful, mature blogs and often comments on his happy marriage and love for his wife.........I guess falls between the cracks.

Sweethearts request for consistency is correct. I was a victim of a personal attack that went on for 24 hours a day, week after week. I was repeatedly accused of criminal sexual activity and pedophilia by someone who never met me, and I was told by the 'powers that be', "I think she is holding her end of the argument up rather well."

Convicted pedophiles are separated from the general inmate population within prisons in the states because murderers, robbers, rapists, gang members, etc, find the crime so reprehensible that the wardens fear some 'harm' would come to the pedophiles.

I hope for consistency too.

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Lowell says on Jul 30, 2007, 10:07:

no didn't have to log out

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Lowell says on Jul 30, 2007, 10:10:

So then I shouldn't post a picture of my daughter?

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 10:23:

I can't speak for Peter but I *think* his intent is for people to post a photo (if they so choose) of themselves, of something that relates to Colombia or even a humorous avatar as long as it's in good taste.

Photos of other people - wives, husbands, family members - ought to be fine, but don't post photos of the latest fufarufa who kept you company over the weekend.

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LA_MONA says on Jul 30, 2007, 11:17:

"Photos of other people - wives, husbands, family members - ought to be fine, but don't post photos of the latest fufarufa who kept you company over the weekend."

here here...well said

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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morphus says on Jul 30, 2007, 11:53:

Tomtom33, did hear the news? Our beloved Monica is a married woman now. I wonder who the lucky guy is...lol

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Chelesupercono says on Jul 30, 2007, 12:04:

is this guy for real !!!! or just another PINHEAD.....

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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morphus says on Jul 30, 2007, 12:10:

Quepasoamigo, do you work in a concentration camp?

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Gomezman5 says on Jul 30, 2007, 12:29:

A few points.

Tinto says:

"Photos of other people - wives, husbands, family members - ought to be fine, but don't post photos of the latest fufarufa who kept you company over the weekend.'

Tinto, how do you know what Tomtom's relationship is with the girl in the photo. Don't you think you are being a bit presumptuous in that comment....not to mention insulting to one of our members....in this case Tomtom.

If you are going to justify a policy, at least make sure you have your cards in order, and you can back up your presumptions, in this case, you clearly cannot.

Ya see, that's is what makes this web site....very UN COLOMBIAN. I highly doubt many people in Colombia would make an issue out of the posting of such a pic.....I am sure of that. I guess some people want to see Colombia the way they want to see it, and not for what it is.

There is nothing objectionable about the pic. In fact, if one were to apply Tinto's logic, if I guy posted a nude picture of his wife, that would be fine, because the issue is not how the person is displayed, the issue is who (a fufurafa supposedly) the person is.

I would suggest tht one of the members should find a girl that you have a serious relationship, maybe even your wife, take a few pics of her topless, and then put up one of those. That would be acceptable because she is not a Fufurafa.

Political correctness and liberalism go hand in hand. I am quite sure if a lesbian woman had put up a pic of her lesbian girlfriend, that would be OK. Or if a Gay man put up a suggestive picture of his partner, that would be OK too. But God forbid a man puts up a suggestive pic of his girlfriend........get the point?

BTW....Morphus, the only thing that is a shame about Monica getting married is that I did not get to meet her before she happened to do so.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 12:39:

GomezMan, I wasn't referring to TomTom's photo. Aren't you the one being presumptuous?

Anyway, I'm not going to engage in another debate with you where you parse every phrase someone writes and then tells them what they're thinking or what they really meant to say.

It's the middle of summer...why don't you go take a walk on Oak Street Beach.

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gabolicious says on Jul 30, 2007, 13:05:

TomTom maybe Peter sees this picture as suggestive (maybe related to sex, i don't know).

I personally don't like it but does not offend me either.

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

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Gomezman5 says on Jul 30, 2007, 13:06:

You weren't? You made a definite statement about what you think the standards should be for the posting of pictures......and that said, this thread is about whether Tomtom's picture is objectionable isn't it? I think that it is fair to say that there was a direct relationship between your post and the picture at issue......at least by inference there is....

OK.....if I am wrong. I am wrong. But if it was not TomTom's pic, then what were you making a reference to? Hmmm OK.

That Gomexman, and his taking things way out of context again.....

As to the Oak Street Beach.....I live 5 minutes from there, right on Lake Shore Drive, which of course is accross the street from Lake Michigan. I have not been to the beach, Oak Street or any other in over 10 years. Too many people, and people getting run over by roller bladers or bicyclists. It's the "Me first" attitude that prevails out there. On the other hand, if you ever get down ot our beautiful city, I would be happy to reaquaint myself if you so desire to re visit. I am not quite as bad in person.....in fact....I am far less argumentative,espcially if I know you are a guest to the city. I imagine though that my chance of meeting you is about as good as my chance of meeting Juanalejo. I keep offering to buy the first beer, and he tells me to get lost.

On the other hand.......I am missing a lot of bueatiful ladies that hang out up along that way. So maybe I will venture that way soon.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 13:19:

Re pictures: I have no desire to get deputized with a shiny tin star and become part of the picture police. People should just use common sense and not post things that are going to be offensive to women or give the impression that all anyone talks about here is women, picking up women, bopping women, dumping women, etc.

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:00:

ok as far as this goes..is there any policy for posting pics as a women?
should i just be constant with want?
because all we're talking about here is a policy for posting pics as a men?
still lil confused..help out here.

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:01:

i meant "one"

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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slguy says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:13:

I don't really care, one way or another, about avatar policing- but, it seems to me that's a pretty slippery slope.

I see nothing at all objectionable about tomtom's foto - except that it ain't him, i guess is the problem.

Just out of curiosity - where's the line? I assume that Puddin's avatar is her- and she's a hottie! I wonder how long her foto would last, if it wasn't her? So- as long as it's a photo of us, with no blantant sexual overtones, it's ok? But- wives, girlfriends, cousins, etc are out- if they're hotties? Pretty damn confusing set of standards, for something as unimportant as an avatar, I think......but- whatever.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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gringoloid says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:33:

tinto: why can't the women who find tom33 picture annoying just put him on ignore?

I'm looking at this picture of puddin......I dunno. I wonder if women including puddin find her picture offensive.

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manINred says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:37:

Just post your own pics, or pics of inanimate objects, or ones that represent you (kids?)... not someone else's. that's my opinion.

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goin_south says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:40:

Puddin..... there's no justice here.
Don't make yourself.....no preocupado.

You can have 10 names and a 1000 photos.....
No one's going to complain

I think not Peter, not Tinto... not Tomtom, not....not,....not....
Estas seguridad!

BTW, where's Kat1? She'd be backing the guys on this one....
as long as they are classy ladies en post!

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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goin_south says on Jul 30, 2007, 14:42:

you gotta be careful with those typo's though...
"contant with want"?????
Jjjjjessss....I M! jejj

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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tomtom33 says on Jul 30, 2007, 16:42:

Damn, and I was going to look Monica up now that I have moved to Medellin. I wish her the best.

GIB, you seem to have a banana up your ass. You don't have to be married to have a woman in your life. And she has no problem with her photo here. You seem to be the one with the problem. Feel free to place me on ignore. Then you have no problem. Unless, of course, you feel it is necessary to tell me how to live my life. Thank you for your opinion over and over.

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 16:44:

i personally dont find my pic offencive. as where there is to look i see it more like art, though i do modeling thats all there is to ir.

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 16:44:

it..opps

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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podborski says on Jul 30, 2007, 17:12:

please don't stop posting your pics puddin.

I'd live longer if you do but I'd rather die happy.

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 17:17:

lol

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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Puddin says on Jul 30, 2007, 17:18:

sure i will...im just going to be off for a while when i arrive to cali and get my internet. but then ill be right on track you guys.

NOT AS HAPPY AS BEFORE BUT GETTING THERE... Liz 0.o

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 17:29:

Gringoloid: Yes, it's like the Supreme Court justice who famously said something along the lines of "it's difficult to define but I know it when I see it."

I'm not setting the policy and I'm not going to be the arbiter of taste in pictures. I'm only offering my suggestion that people use common sense and that they refrain from posting nude, almost nude or vulgar pictures. Ninety-nine percent of the time there should not be a problem. Most of the problem pictures have been associated with trolls/troublemakers and those people have now been deleted.

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slguy says on Jul 30, 2007, 17:39:

Puddin,

Not for a moment did i mean to hint that your foto is anything but...attractive. But I'm an old fart- I have to be careful about what I say, or these PC police'll jump me for pedophilia! jajajajajajajajajajja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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goin_south says on Jul 30, 2007, 18:03:

Hey Puddin! Have a great time; we know ya will.
There's internet cafe in Chipe Chape Mall....
..and of course... A. B.... knows everything...
.. that lucky dog!

What does it mean,... for someone to be: "Colombian...Enough" ... or, 'not colombian enough'?

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bufalo says on Jul 30, 2007, 18:35:

Gee tomtom, I never knew you were so hot looking

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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Lowell says on Jul 30, 2007, 18:41:

great sex change operation!

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 18:58:

Well, UTC, the visitors to the World Sex Guide all have two things in common - they're male and they're gathering to chat about hookers in foreign countries. What's there to argue about? There is a lot more variety on this site and that leads to the squabbles and the bitching.

Re deletions - I don't know which one of your profiles was deleted but UtopiaCowboy and Bueno_Pues are still active. Maybe Livefreeordie was deleted? You can participate, or not, but please do it under one name. If you see something new that's clearly breaking the rules and you feel strongly about it, send Peter or one of the moderators a note. Complaining about it on the public forum often leads to more arguing. Plus, we (Peter and the moderators) may never see it on the forum.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 30, 2007, 19:05:

I know. There are not enough moderators and too many trolls. If people wouldn't feed the trolls so much, then maybe the limited amount of moderation could go to more productive purposes.

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critter says on Jul 30, 2007, 19:25:

Shouldn't the word assumption (jumping to conclusions without facts), rather than presumption (displaying excessive/boastful confidence)? Just curious!!!

"Spending eternity in a bad place is a long time!"

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morphus says on Jul 30, 2007, 21:08:

Tomtom33, Monica says she can't receive any phone calls right now. Her husband is keeping an eye on her incoming calls. She emailed me this morning and said she does'nt want to lose contact with me. Why me? There must have been hundreds, if not thousands of other guys :)

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tomtom33 says on Jul 31, 2007, 02:06:

Morph, Colombianos have some on the side. I don't see why Colombianas should not. I am honest with my novia. I like variety, and that is not likely to change any time soon.

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tomtom33 says on Jul 31, 2007, 02:09:

I see that my last comment did not bump the thread to the top of active.

I get the hint and will change my photo.

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morphus says on Jul 31, 2007, 16:13:

Tomtom33, nice pic!

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tomtom33 says on Aug 6, 2007, 08:03:

Bump.

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tomtom33 says on Aug 6, 2007, 08:14:

Bump.

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