I am still hoping the silver screen will be kind to Colombia one day..... (sigh)

slguy says on Oct 11, 2007, 12:37:

I'm curious why you even expect to see reality in the movies? Hollywood movies have always been about escapism, not reality. Hollywood plays, almost always, to the lowest common denominator. Your average american isn't gonna have a clue about accents varying between mexico, colombia and puerto rico.

It seems like you're setting a pretty high reality bar for what is really only simple escapism. Hollywood is about butts in seats. If there's a message to share while they're at it, cool - but it's about ticket/DVD/HBO sales.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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toneloc24 says on Oct 11, 2007, 12:41:

LOL!!!

Hilarious C'biche!!!

But too true.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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Colombiche says on Oct 11, 2007, 12:42:

I am not setting the bar too high. That is my point all along.

But... some people seem to be hoping that the new Escobar flick will be filmed in Medellin and somewhat historically accurate.

I'll bet a couple of matinee passes that it won't be.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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toneloc24 says on Oct 11, 2007, 12:55:

That it won't be filmed in Medellin? Or that it won't be historically accurate?

I'd side with your bet on both accounts. I highly doubt both as well.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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slguy says on Oct 11, 2007, 13:07:

If you expect Hollywood to meet your reality standards, you're setting the bar too high.

Hollywood is a business. They want to sell their product. Their role is NOT historical or cultural accuracy. They want to make movies that sell, period.

If it's reality you want, try the National Geographic Channel, or Discovery Channel. ALL media is slanted to one degree or another, but there are media that present reality as the producers see it. Hollywood ain't one of them.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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slguy says on Oct 11, 2007, 13:08:

If you expect Hollywood to meet your reality standards, you're setting the bar too high.

Hollywood is a business. They want to sell their product. Their role is NOT historical or cultural accuracy. They want to make movies that sell, period.

If it's reality you want, try the National Geographic Channel, or Discovery Channel. ALL media is slanted to one degree or another, but there are media that present reality as the producers see it. Hollywood ain't one of them.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Colombiche says on Oct 11, 2007, 13:19:

I am very much aware of that fact which is why I am taking a light-hearted, humorous approach to the subject.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kalder says on Oct 11, 2007, 13:24:

Hollywood baddies invariably have British accents.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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podborski says on Oct 11, 2007, 14:44:

hey what about us poor canadians? we're always the comedians...John Candy, Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Eugene Levy, Phil Hartman...

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pedro says on Oct 11, 2007, 14:56:

Quote -- "A rebellious misunderstood/distraught blue eyed fireman or cop who goes against the orders of his superiors and takes on the mafia/gans/guerillas by himself. He is on a mission to avenge the death of his wife/kids/girlfriend/goldfish. He goes into the amazon and takes on the FARC using makeshift booby traps. Finally, Mr new age McGyver ends up offing all the grenade toting spic guerrilas right in their own turf... all this without a gun!!!! Eventhough he had been suspended from the police force/fire squad, he gets an apology from the boss at the end. --> I can think of a PBH'er that would be perfect for the part ;) ;) ;)"

Pow wow?

que nota!

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Medellin Traveler says on Oct 11, 2007, 17:35:

Sorry Pedro, it sounds sooooo contrived. And more importantly, there is no love interest to hold the audiences interest.

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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john_stark says on Oct 11, 2007, 21:57:

The documentary on the turf battles in La Sierra is reality but no one wants to see that. We'd rather indulge our little fantasies on make believe good vs. evil flics where good prevails.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 11, 2007, 22:04:

There are other people making movies than Hollywood. There's Bollywood too...I wonder if their bad guys speak Russian too...

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Man Tequila says on Oct 11, 2007, 22:25:

Bad guys in Bollywood movies tend to be thinly disguised Pakistanis. Nice to know politics dictates crappy movies in other cultures too.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Colombiche says on Oct 12, 2007, 07:19:

The bad guys in Bollywood movies are usually middle aged Pakistanis or Punjab drug lords with a beergut.

The world does not embrace Bollywood flicks the way it does Hollywood. Maybe in India and the middle east... but not in this side of the world.

I love Bollywood flicks. There is always that scene when the guy chases the girl in an open field for about half an hour to give her a kiss on the cheek.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Medellin Traveler says on Oct 12, 2007, 14:13:

Colombiche,

And don't forget to mention the scenes where the characters break into song-and-dance!!

I too enjoy Bollywood films, even though it's been awhile since I've sat down to watch one.

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 12, 2007, 15:58:

The song and dance stuff is really great. And the movies are so long.

I always imagine those movies being played outdoors on the side of a building somewhere in rural india with the whole town watching.

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Colombiche says on Oct 12, 2007, 16:13:

Yes, the song and dance that comes up right after the guy steals a kiss from the girl and makes a silly face.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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john_stark says on Oct 12, 2007, 22:51:

Bollywood dance competitions are all the rage now. I'm a fan. Some of those Indian chicks are smoking hot.

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Man Tequila says on Oct 13, 2007, 01:19:

I have seen a few Bollywood flicks in rural India. They are popular, but the ones I saw were all indoors. The dancing is nice, the plots ridiculous and repetitive, the women elegant, the music cringeworthy... Okay in smaller doses. That Simpsons' spoof of a Bollywood movie is absolutely dead on -- la la la la la, I'm in love with lovely Johnny!

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/49959/The_Simpsons_Indian_Movie.ht...

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Medellin Traveler says on Oct 13, 2007, 07:53:

Thanks for the link!!!

Them (sic) Simpsons know how to make you laugh.

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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Man Tequila says on Oct 13, 2007, 08:35:

This Simpsons link also shows the typical Bollywood style. ;)

http://tristyn.vox.com/library/video/6a00b8ea06e209dece00c11414cdd45af...

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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