I-134 Affidavit of Support

cam0940 says on Sep 1, 2005, 20:55:

Go here... http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/forms/visaforms.html

It's from the UK Embassy, but a DS 2000 is a DS 2000.

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mikecolombia says on Sep 4, 2005, 21:17:

taxes take all your documents on how much you made, and pay all of your back taxes.

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 07:44:

questions I'm filling out the I-134 form and will be sending it this week.
1) do i need to make one out for the 5 year old also?
2) Question #7 asks for my annual income. Do they want from my 1040 Line # 12 or 22 if applicable (Business income from schedule C) or Line 33 Adjusted Gross Income?
OR from my schedule C line 1 (Gross Receipts)?????
I am only giving them what they ask for, nothing more. The instructions ask for 1 years' worth of taxes and a bank letter,that's all I'm giving them. In duplicate.
Thanks for your help

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 07:55:

One more question #10 submission of visa petition. do I include the childs' name on this line also? I didn't submit one to the CIS for her but I'm sure I read that she would be included anyway with the application that I sent for mi novia

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somanyquestions says on Sep 12, 2005, 07:57:

TAXES If you don't fix your tax situation prior to filing they will deny your petition. We had that same problem and found someone who helped us very quick and cheaply. If you want their info PM me. Good luck.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:00:

You can use the same I-134 for her and her children. You do not need a separate I-134 for each of them.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gator says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:22:

Reminds me of the... line in the poem by Sir Walter Scott: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive"

By the way, everything will be run through a national data base INCLUDING the IRS. If you get caught in a lie that's almost the end of the story. In addition the _1-134 is a SWORN affidavit that is legally binding. In this case, especially with a child involved, more is better.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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rjstuff says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:30:

1 year tax info may not be enough hey bobbyb I also just sent 1 year's tax returns to my fiancee but she called me in a panic cause the Bogota embassy asked her to provide 3 years of tax returns from me. I didn't want to argue and make her feel worse, so I fedexed the other 2 years - $55 for fast delivery!
So, if you think they are asking for too much info - they have all of that available to them and more - they are part of the US Govt. and to top it all of they are part of the Homeland security dept.
So, don't be fooled into thinking they don't have the info on you, they are just making sure you provide them good collaborating info or there may be delays.
Good luck

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:40:

I am fixing it I'm getting up to date with the IRS. I'm submitting all true and accurate documents. They ask for 1 years worth of taxes if I'm self employed and thats what they get. Can they deny a petition if you owe taxes? Can we discussed this other stuff later and please stick with my I-134 form questions?

Here's another question. They ask in number 7 for the address of my real estate, there's only room for 1 place, what if I own other property? Where do I put that? ( I should just send the deed to the IRS hehe!) Let's just stick with the questions for now, you've only answered one, thanks to the cowboy over there in the corner

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somanyquestions says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:50:

yes they will deny petition... If you owe taxes, or have not filed they will deny the petition. As I said before, we had the same problem and had it fixed within a month, paid pennies on the debt and had filed evrything. If you want their info PM I will give you their contact.

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:14:

somany I did PM you. I want to talk with you

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:29:

sounds like pandering

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:40:

I don't remember "1 year" I don't have the form in front of me, but I'm pretty sure I saw a requirement for "3 years" of tax returns & W-2's. I don't recall if that was from the embassy's list, the I-134 form or what. But at the interview, they looked at each and every one of the 3-yrs worth of forms. If they didn't want to see them, they would have shoved them under the glass like they did with about half of my application.

Do what you want, but if something is missing, it will be your fiance that will be the one leaving the interview window in tears (like I saw when I was at the embassy with my novia).

Remember, while it isn't quite as difficult as a tourist visa, the burden of proof is on you as the sponsor to prove you can support your "immigrant." If they can't check all the boxes on their form (and they have a checklist with squares on it for checking) then your application will be denied or at least postponed. And if you lie (whether by omission or false statement) they WILL remember you.

Better to get things straightened out here before bringing any more governmental attention to them.

But to your other question. if you have additional information that doesn't fit on the form, simply put "see attached" and then on a separate sheet of paper write: "Form I-134, Question X: blah, blah..." and make sure you have your name and your fiance's name and case number on that sheet in case it gets separated from the pile.

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:09:

ok ok ok People, I'm not pulling the wool over anyones' eyes. I have always filed and paid. Taxes and death, no way around 'em. I'm late this time because my sister is my bookkeeper and she's been sick off and on for a while and I have to prop her up on her desk and tape the pen to her hand.
The concensus is 3 years returns, I'll send them, 1 years' bank statements, I'll send them. Whatever they need. The form and instructions say, quite clearly, 1 years' returns. My novia returned package 3 today. I would like to have the I-134 done while I'm waiting for my taxes to be finished, (The end of this week)If I owe I want to talk with Somanyquestions as he seems nearly like my situation. I now have 2 questions answered, I need one more answered.

2) Question #7 asks for my annual income. Do they want from my 1040 Line # 12 or 22 if applicable (Business income from schedule C) or Line 33 Adjusted Gross Income?
OR from my schedule C line 1 (Gross Receipts)?????
In short I guess I'm asking do they want my gross income or net?
I want to finish this up so we can move on and discuss the IRS and their illegal pandering

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:18:

They want to know "your" income Not your business's so it would be whatever you put on YOUR 1040. This may be complicated if you have been trying to reduce tax liability by not reporting a lot of income (or reporting a loss) even though you have been "making money."

One thing to consider is that it's not unusual for a business to request a filing extension (for whatever reason) so you might consider sending your tax returns from 2001,2&3 with a copy of your extension request for 2004 explaining that you are still in the process of filing your 2004 return (for whatever reason).

I'm not an accountant nor a lawyer, just another anonymous internet poster, so take my suggestions with a grain of salt.

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somanyquestions says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:21:

bobby I sent you a PM with some info. Good luck

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:34:

thanks for the final answer I'll have the taxes done. I did take a loss in '02 I don't know how they will veiw that, since then I've rebounded and I'm back making money above the poverty level or 125% above. I also have a good inventory of personal property that I can list out for them if you think that's also a good idea, that's also in question #7.

somanyquestions I didn't receive anything in my PM. Maybe I don't know how to use that feature?

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somanyquestions says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:40:

Send me a PM with an email I will send you all information. Thanks

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:54:

I sent you one you didn't receive that one? I'll do another and thanks

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somanyquestions says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:13:

Sent an email I got your address and sent you an email. If you need anything else let me know.

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:34:

I got it Thanks!!

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cam0940 says on Sep 12, 2005, 14:13:

Bobby, I have a tax liability too. IRS said w/ the returns in, THEY weren't going to create a problem w/ my fiance's visa.

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bobbyb says on Sep 12, 2005, 15:09:

yo tambien I just talked to a tax lawyer. I gonna take his advise. He said: that I need to complete all the returns that i am missing (done this week) then go to the IRS office with 2 copies, have them stamp them as "Filed", keep one copy for yourself. That copy is sufficent for the embassy. The IRS will not start sending you collection letters for 90 days, then I can make an "Offer and compromise" with the IRS or set up a payment plan. Depends on your liability. Sometimes, if your libility is high, like yours, the best route would be the "Offer and compromise" and settle up with them pennies on the dollar. Somanyquestions gave me the guys number, and belive me I hate talking to lawyers, but the guy gave me an immediate solution to this situation. And after I start receiving the letters I'll hire him to do my "Offer and Compromise"
The other thing he said, which contradicts some of the responses here, is the embassy WILL NOT check your returns against the IRS data base, they don't have the time to do someone elses job, (Sounds about right to me) that doesn't mean you can submit false documents. The embassy only wants to see that you filed your returns, even if you owe taxes.
So Cam I think we're on the same page but I think you could have worked a better deal with the IRS. I hope I can. I still don't know what the damage is.
Other news, I checked my girls' Virtual Package #3 and their good and she sent them, today via FED-X. So I'm ready to start a new thread concerning Pre packet #4 questions. Stay tuned

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