How to Rid this Site of TROLLS

john_stark says on Jan 23, 2008, 20:38:

The trolls are the best thing on the site. Them and Travelingirl.

RAAAY says on Jan 23, 2008, 20:45:

J.S ........very true

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

MitchAlvarez says on Jan 23, 2008, 20:46:

i agree. they can be entertaining from time to time. but the mods do have to be alert at all times cus they get carried away sometimes.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 20:48:

i think they gotta go - or keep paying to play.

god is in your head

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:00:

i think the trolly nmg's would be gone pronto if someone enforced this new protocol.

god is in your head

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:02:

it would be great to shut them down,

and shut them up

god is in your head

Catfish35 says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:02:

Correct me if I am wrong, I am not completely computer savvy, but doesn't your IP address remain the same every time you re-register? Or is there a way that the MODs or the PBH god's can record the members IP's and restrict this way?
I don't know, just a thought. if in fact this really is a problem. I mean it doesn't really take a rocket scientist to sift the serious PBH'ers from the turds, is it?

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:03:

i think the proxy servers re-issue ip. it is normally a range as i understand it.

god is in your head

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:04:

however, they would have to keep using the same credit card if they wanted to keep playing.

god is in your head

RUV says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:06:

With out the trolls we would of never had that papi thread.

Man Tequila says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:06:

Most other sites just ban IP numbers.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

Lisa Zee says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:07:

Great idea tejas, DOWN with the # at *&?$% trolls!

tejasmarcos says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:08:

yeah we would have. it just would have cost the troll $5.

pay to play, remember?

hell, peter could even establish a donation fund for the troll $$.

god is in your head

RUV says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:29:

Do not let newbies post for three days after creating an account.

Lisa Zee says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:30:

TM: Press the "ignore" button, it worked for me!

Enrique187 says on Jan 23, 2008, 21:40:

IP tracking would be another way, even though you can reset an IP address with a dynamic line by just unplugging the dsl for ten seconds.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 23, 2008, 22:14:

Some very good ideas here. I'll discuss them with Peter and the other moderators. Keep them coming. The ideas, not the trolls! Thanks.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

goin_south says on Jan 23, 2008, 22:27:

hey tejasmarcos, I'm not taking the donations,
jus send your cr cd info to my pm..
I'll make sure peter gets it all, and I'll match all contributions ;-)

Maybe jus have everyone take turns: TROLL FOR A DAY!
jajajja

Desi.... it's a lil early...

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

lpdiver says on Jan 23, 2008, 22:28:

Get in touch with the British Expats forum. I am a member there and they have a good grip on controlling the troll population and there is no charge on their site.

I was contacted when I forgot my password and just reapplied. They "busted" me very quickly.

ron

"cook some rice!"

Vitae says on Jan 23, 2008, 23:04:

I'm a newb....what's a troll?

"The most wasted of all days is one in which we haven't laughed." -e.e. Cummings

podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:05:

I'd pay, but I would guess Peter doesn't want to discourage a lot of people from joining

the new tag line could be '7 seconds and 7 bucks!' (or pesos, I bet c-mike wouldn't want to pay in pesos even)

jorgegdiaz says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:34:

to change your IP adress go to command promt, A.K.A. MS-DOS and type
ipconfig/ release
ipconfig/ renew
... if you`re not behind a DHCP server, it works
Where`s the ignore button, btw?

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

Desi1 (Moderator) says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:46:

In your profile, under the "add a friend" button

Albatross says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:49:

While we're at it... why not ban Republicans ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:50:

Maybe you should get a manual of TCP/IP.
Internetworking with TCP/IP Vol.1: Principles, Protocols, and Architecture by Douglas E. Comer is a good book.
Reading http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2131.html would help.

More in particular:
"When a server receives a DHCPDISCOVER message from a client, the server chooses a network address for the requesting client. If no address is available, the server may choose to report the problem to the system administrator. If an address is available, the new address SHOULD be chosen as follows:
The client's current address as recorded in the client's current binding, ELSE
The client's previous address as recorded in the client's (now expired or released) binding, if that address is in the server's pool of available addresses and not already allocated, ELSE
The address requested in the 'Requested IP Address' option, if that address is valid and not already allocated, ELSE
A new address allocated from the server's pool of available addresses; the address is selected based on the subnet from which the message was received (if 'giaddr' is 0) or on the address of the relay agent that forwarded the message ('giaddr' when not 0)."

Now, masking an IP address is relatively easy, but almost surely something the average troll don't know how to do or don't have spare time to do.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:54:

First step would be to eliminate the double handles. Easy to detect.
Same IP address at the same moment = same person (at least if you are not posting behind a corporate proxy and you have a colleague who is also a member of PBH, which would be against all odds).

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

webmanco says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:10:

The only way to have less trolls, is by not feeding them. Ip addresses can be manipulate (disguise) and wrong Ip address migth be blocked.

But people like to feed the trolls so let it be.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:12:

You're probably right Webmanco.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

jack_jason says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:16:

What is a TROLL?

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

TonyMattei says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:21:

IF YOU CHARGE THEN WE CAN NOT CALL THIS SIGHT POOR BUT HAPPY.....POORBUTCOMFORTABLE.....POORBUTDOLLARMENUAIR.......IF A TROLL BOTHERS... YOU YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE AND QUIT CONSUMING YOUR LIVES OVER A DAMN COMPUTER.....

tejasmarcos says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:23:

DOWN WITH THE TROLLS!

i think we are starting to make the problem makers nervous...........

god is in your head

aztec says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:51:

Better be careful what you wish for!

Waterdawg says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:57:

Shoot follks just ignore them .. I f no one answers their threads or posts , they evaporate . Do you really want an another " Big Brother " ...

webmanco says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:07:

As a matter of fact sometimes trolls feed themselves :-)

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

tejasmarcos says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:14:

web - i noticed that for the first time last night. trolls feeding themselves..........

* i do not understand what motivates people to waste their time with this type of nonsense. i mean does this guy/gal talk to themselves as well? time to break out the thorazine....

god is in your head

john_stark says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:18:

Geez, PBH is a troll site. Trolls provide the only entertainment value here and without them, the place would be dead. Thanks to Tejasmarcos all we'll have are posts about the cheapest way to make phone calls to Colombia.

billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:20:

So true, JS.

jorgegdiaz says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:23:

I use a script to mask my IP to appear as it was in the US to watch TV shows online.
My point is anybody can mimic an address to avoid IP filtering. Trolls are the fun in a forum

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

tejasmarcos says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:25:

mr. stark - i am all for good entertainment value and i also agree with having some nonsensical fun. however, all to often these parasites cross way over the line. i know of a member here that was provoked by one of these creeps on their personal messenger service. that hits a little too close to home.

talking about "yo mama" is all fun and games. however, some of the accusations cross the line of decency and quite frankly legality if it were not an anonymous public forum.

let me put it to you this way. if anyone of these viruses said to my face some of the bs that has been hurled here, they would quickly be dealt with. however, cowards and insult artists don't have the guts to play their games on the open field, just on the anonymous sidelines where they are nice and safe here in cyberland.

all to often the entertainment factor spills over into just plain indecent name calling and false accusatory statements by these libelous panderers.

i like to think of this site as a useful tool to embrace the flow of free information exchange for those trying to embrace colombia. however, if it is the concensus of the board to run a romper room environment for immature, insecure, inadequate, cerebral rejects, then i guess we will have to continue wading through fecal matter that sometimes exists here.

i would have to question the defensive nature in which a suggestion such as requiring a small registration fee elicits from some of the "locals" here on pbh. why in the world would any of you guys or gals care if a troll had to shell out a few bucks everytime he/she wanted to hurl insults, antagonize other members and play games? it's like a football game. play dirty, suffer the consequences. it does not prohibit the troll from rejoining the game, it just penalizes him/her a little. it is a great negative reinforcer attached to a good cause (donation account).

why the uproar? unless of course a few of you are concerned about your own pocketbooks.......

$5 to hurl some insults and antagonize some innocent people? sounds like a bargain to me!

god is in your head

El Polo says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:37:

Trolls can confuse even the best of them!!!

I quit trying to figure out who is and who's not a while ago.

RAAAY says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:44:

I agree with J.S...............the trolls can be entertaining...............I also agree with tejas........implement so method of curtailing them.............

In fact.............I agree with everybody..........about everything......no matter what they say

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:50:

Yes RAAAY, but do you agree with GIB????

tejasmarcos says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:52:

LOL

god is in your head

sloopskipper says on Jan 24, 2008, 08:09:

The most annoying are the ones who remain, vacillating between useful input and lame attempts at humor, flying just below the radar of the moderators. They wait in ambush to deliver insults and other bullshit.

I don’t know what their reward is because they can not hear the applause of the other nitwits.

I seek entertainment elsewhere.

Catfish35 says on Jan 24, 2008, 09:41:

I would like to know what RAAAY;s "mas grande amigo en Bogota" has to say about this ???

TJ...very nicely put!

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

RAAAY says on Jan 24, 2008, 09:56:

Catfish......................" I agree with everybody..........about everything......no matter what they say.."............even GIB...........an argument is a great way to get to the bottom of things............it's a pity it stoops to pettyness so often.................mostly it's my fault........constantly telling him he is wrong about everything.........which, of course, he's not. But, man, he sure gets pissed off when you rattle him.

I'm sure he is a fine gentleman................and when I'm sitting on the sofa with a beer..........he's the only one I can rely on for a bit of a barney about the massively important issues of the day.I get a kick out of our little squabbles.............but in fairness to everybody else.............it probably is an annoyance..............so...........enough from me.

In future I'll only rattle him when he's wrong about something.................hee hee............just joking



.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 24, 2008, 10:17:

Solution to Trolls: Don't feed them. Ignore them.

One feature I would love to have on this site would be an "Ignore this thread" button. So when one of the trolls creates a new topic I can just click once and never see it again in the active topics.

morphus says on Jan 24, 2008, 10:26:

PBH without the trolls

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forum.jspa?forumID=22&keywordid=...

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:33:

I'm no internet lawyer, but I imagine that one consideration about charging for membership is - if a troll pays, then gets deleted, someone would have to go thru the PIA of returning the $5, or facing some BS fraud accusation.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:34:

Stop feeding the trolls and start respecting this board if you want to have a troll-free board. We don't really appreciate established members like john_stark or anybody else badmouthing this forum and belittling the effort and hard work that we voluntarily put into this forum.

The trolls are here because you like them and and feed them and celebrate them. No forum is better than the people who write in it. It's people like you cheering on them that bring them here.

Do you really think that this forum would lose some entertainment value it these trolls disappeared? Then perhaps it's YOU who is in the wrong place. We have wonderful, witty, humorous, well-educated, informative, warm-hearted, eloquent, magnanimous contributors and then we have some people who are using this forum for cheap entertainment, lowest common denominator humour, witless one-liners; the troll-friends.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:40:

"we have some people who are using this forum for cheap entertainment"

I resent that remark, des! I'm easy- but not cheap! ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:45:

I'm not talking about people like you, sailguy, or even somebody like goin_south or many others who do not contribute with a heavy debate, interesting articles, specific information like Tio Gator, but just tidbits and anecdotes, people who use this board for easy-going and harmless socializing with other people with similar experiences. That's fine with me. I'm talking about people who behave half-trollish themselves and then whine and complain and put down this forum but are still there.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

sloopskipper says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:49:

Bravo, Desi!

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:51:

I was just yanking your chain, des. I figured it was time to lob you a meatball, and watch you hit it out of the park....;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:57:

jajajajajajajajjajajajjaj

it can't be the real PowWow - can it?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:04:

No, it can't

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:16:

as I thought.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:17:

first I lose my innocence about chucha, now this. Thanks, des. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:18:

You're welcome m'dear :)

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:22:

know what? wasn't a bad impression! ya DID have me for a second, until I remembered what a powwow fan desi is...then I realized the futility of my momentary lapse. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

tejasmarcos says on Jan 24, 2008, 13:29:

well put desideria, well put........

DOWN WITH THE TROLLS IN 2008!

god is in your head

sloopskipper says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:04:

AND the part-time trolls!

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 17:28:

I like it when the so called trolls are on ,
But I feel too many of you are too quick to shout out troll,and even faster to run to peter about it when you are losing an argument,
Also I feel peter is too fast to ban them ,but its his site so that's up to him,trolls as you call them cant do any thing if you don't reply or feed them ,so just leave them to it,
I'm back on here after a long time but in the last month 5 or 6 names I have found amusing have gone ,why is that,
One I liked was car1 where is that name now ,another was chorizo ,what's happened here,
As for the party in med I think I'm right in saying it was chorizo who 1st asked about it in one of his post , it would be nice to know if he shows up at the party,
So remember trolls cant work if you don't reply ,stop running to peter when your upset,and peter stop being too quick booting out people,
That's my dimes worth on it any way.

www.unionjackedfilms.com

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 17:54:

As I say its just my feeling on it,
But as for chorizo I picked up a lot of good stuff from his posts,
Just one being that guy ben he helped out,by going to the site I found another guy walking home to Alaska ,his site has some great photos of his walk though Colombia ,worth a look if only to see the photos,
http://ianwalk.com/2007/12/15/first-week-picsfotos-de-la-primera-seman...

www.unionjackedfilms.com

Robert Jorge says on Jan 24, 2008, 17:57:

ujay, car1 and chorizo were the same person. I figured you would know that.

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:02:

No rob quite different I think,but would still like to know if they turn up at party,lol.....

www.unionjackedfilms.com

podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:03:

ahhh i thought so too RJ, too funny

robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:10:

Robert, Robert... if you'd know...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:13:

robi666,i see you will be at party ,let us know ,look forward to seeing any photos ,hope it goes well,have a nice evening.

www.unionjackedfilms.com

robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:16:

ujay, when are we going to have that meeting in SM at Buenavista? :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:20:

meeting in SM at Buenavista ?????

www.unionjackedfilms.com

podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:20:

I think we should start a thread that is a spreadsheet that helps us keep track of who we think is who. It could be like a PBH wikipedia thingy.

ujay says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:21:

pod,...lol.

www.unionjackedfilms.com

goin_south says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:26:

I'm honored... with a direct reference... by Momma Des.

"or even somebody like goin_south"

Hey, I thought some of the articles I've posted were .... of value/interest.
Que dice, monpirri?
And, then there''s people like Campiña; he's no troll. not even a trolley. But, more per MSaucey's description... backwards and blind folded on a roller coaster!
Woooooooooooohoooooooooooo!
The board wouldn't be the same without 'm.
Que pasa, La_Campiña?

We all have valid experiences that may or may not be so pertinent to the next guy's/gal's perspective on Colombia. And, everyone contributes to the total perspective on the situation. Even though Sr Tertius thinks the duck is shallow, and Esluelita thinks the duck can't communicate en espanol and hates my spanglish, while tolerating that of others....

WHAT THE DUCK?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 18:31:

we could keep track of certain comments, opinions, or when people meet up we could cross check who actually met who, that would help confirm things : )

john_stark says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:30:

Now that you mention it, Desi, I will state once again why I have no respect for PBH. Here you have a forum where people are allowed to call my wife a whore with impunity. If I complain all I get is a lame excuse that the mods don't have time to read all the threads. Well, why not? I read all the threads and I'm not a mod. I see plenty of posts where someone should be struck down immediately but here nothing happens. I don't mind getting treated like shit but leave my wife out of it. The mods have their favorites but other people who are perceived as troublemakers get thrown under the bus. Fine but don't bitch that we have no respect for PBH. It doesn't deserve any. Check out the worldsexguide forum and you'll see what a board should be like because the guy who runs it doesn't put up with any bad behavior. Strange, on a board about mongering a comment about a guy's wife being a whore would get you banned immediately. But on PBH nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:35:

You know, pod- I was thinking just that the other day! an off topic "let's out the multiple personalities here!" thread. I spend little time thinking about who's who, to be honest - but it seems to be big sport for some, and it's fun for me to read the speculation....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Robert Jorge says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:39:

JS, how long ago did somebody call your wife a whore? I don't remember reading that. I remember you complaining about it, but I don't remember seeing the original text in question. I am not doubting you at all, but it must have been a while back. And, the person(s) who said that - are they still active here?

slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:43:

I saw it, RJ. It was real. And JS has a legitimate beef with the mods about it. They commented in that thread (so it wasn;t a thread none of them saw), he complained about the cheap shot to his wife, but got no response, at least no public response.

At least that's my memory. I'm old and feeble minded- I could be wrong.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

john_stark says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:46:

It's happened numerous times. I can name Miquel Clavo and Lisa Zee (among others) as people who have said it. I guess it's one thing they can say that they know will really piss me off. Which it does. I would fucking KILL the person who had the balls to say it to my face. And believe me, anyone who has seen me pissed does not hang around to find out what will happen to them. Hell it happened yesterday when some jerkoff insinuated that he would be fucking our wives. WTF? He should have been booted right then and there. This is the kind of shit that The Banker would ban you for on the worldsexguide. No warnings. No pleas. No whining about how he can't read all the posts. Boom! You're gone. And gone forever.

manINred says on Jan 24, 2008, 22:20:

" I guess it's one thing they can say that they know will really piss me off. Which it does. I would fucking KILL the person who had the balls to say it to my "

Good for you, I absolutely agree. Quite frankly it's the same when people say Colombianas are only in it for the money, even the ones who clearly demonstrate otherwise etc.. yawn yawn yawn. Just try and turn a blind eye, know that whatever people say on a website to demean the reality you live is either jealousy, or just not worth your time.

eywed says on Jan 24, 2008, 22:24:

Just like if a person calls me a mother f#%$ at ! . I know i never f at %$#^ my mother. If I let it bug me I am only giving them power over me. Frankly No one on an internet Forum is ever going to have power over me much less in daily life.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

goin_south says on Jan 24, 2008, 22:29:

puntas excellente!!!
eywed y manINRed.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Robert Jorge says on Jan 24, 2008, 22:42:

Thanks for the information. I really didn't know. And no matter what kind of argument a person gets into, whether on the Internet or in person, it is not cool to talk about somebody's wife like that. Or family in general. It is a low blow that deserves, or at least the offender should expect, a severe response from. So I guess I understand a little better now why you get so pissed sometimes JS.

Albatross says on Jan 25, 2008, 05:23:

As much as I like to throw out sarcastic barbs from time-to-time, or make contentious comments that I'm not sure even I believe - one has to draw the line somewhere.

Calling someone's wife a whore is not cool... and can easily get you killed in the real world.

On the other hand, who gives a shit about what internet strangers think about you or yours ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

tejasmarcos says on Jan 25, 2008, 05:32:

hmmmmmm - sounds like $5 or $10 in the donation fund to me.......

JS - i agree. not a cool thing to attack one's family.

god is in your head

ujay says on Jan 25, 2008, 05:40:

its the internet,
you got no idea if your taking to a woman a guy or a 8 year old kid,i cant understand how any one can get up set,i for one dont give a shit what any one puts ,most i find every one building themn selfs up,i think im one of the few that tell the truth,even when im telling lies.

www.unionjackedfilms.com

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 25, 2008, 11:21:

John_stark,
I've been trying to find that thread but I have somewhat clear memory of what happened. I did warn Lisa at the time, she was clearly out of line there but I kind of understand why. You didn't start acting like a troll at that time; you have been doing this for years. Any newbie (like Lisa was at the time) gets a wrong impression of you. The way you have been carrying on about anal sex, blow-up dolls and all that nonsense nobody would believe that you actually have a wife, much less that you love her dearly and that she's both beautiful and classy. I know that (as well as anybody can know anything about anybody in the internet )but she didn't, not at the time she suggested that perhaps you were married to a pre-pago.
I believe that you made your bed and now you're refusing to lie on it.

Stop this personal vendetta on me (I suppose it's just me), badmouthing the forum because of something that happened (you brought it on yourself) when your true anger was originated years ago, when I wasn't moderating this board yet. That was long, long before Lisa or Miguel even started posting here.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

aztec says on Jan 25, 2008, 11:41:

John_stark, most men know you don't bring up in public conversation the subject of your wife in the context of sex. When one does they open themselves up to possible unpleasant consequences.

Don't encourage comments about your wife. Discussions of her should be off limits even for you in any discussions where there are men around. Even your closest friends might offer an inappropriate reference.

webmanco says on Jan 25, 2008, 12:04:

Desi 1 John_stark 1

Can we all just be trolls, I mean friends?

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

sloopskipper says on Jan 25, 2008, 17:57:

What goes around, comes around.

john_stark says on Jan 25, 2008, 22:01:

Call me anything you want, just leave her out of it.

tomtom33 says on Jan 26, 2008, 02:46:

I will firmly side with Desi on this one even if she doesn't like my avatar.

I can't say that you will be missed, UC.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 26, 2008, 03:46:

I'm not calling you anything, John.
I wish you could reel back a little and THINK how this all started.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Lostgringo says on Jan 27, 2008, 02:53:

go desi

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

lpdiver says on Jan 27, 2008, 03:51:

Why not have a moderated portion of the board where the material designated as "good stuff" is placed and an unmoderated (fight club) portion of the board where anything goes?

The moderators are already spending the time required to do this anyway.

er ron

"cook some rice!"

gringoloid says on Jan 27, 2008, 06:36:

it is strange that it is the members and not the mods that are asking for a cleaner, friendlier board.

goin_south says on Jan 27, 2008, 11:04:

j_s... let us all be reminded: ...... IT'S ONLY THE FREAKIN INTERNET.
What does virtual mean, afterall: NOT REAL?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

gringoloid says on Jan 27, 2008, 11:45:

I have a better idea. If the mods will not provide the justice then we should take the law into our own hands.

Remember how all of us jumped on Clyde for help with a stupid problem? He did give up because of the weight of the membership against him. Now of course he came back a couple of times as someone else but I think he knows now he can't win after we all put the boots to him. They'll then just go somewhere else where the pickins are easier.

We could even come up with a 10 most wanted list.

So if at least a dozen people jumped in to smackdown an internet bully, the troll would not be able to type that fast.

The mods can't throw us all off.

gringoloid says on Jan 27, 2008, 11:49:

alright, there is a kjclaughy on the mde party fotos thread......here is your opportunity to test out my theory.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 27, 2008, 11:51:

Yes, we can:))))
Clyde is not your problem, but ours.
We need no vigilantes.
Contact us if you have a problem.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Lisa Zee says on Jan 27, 2008, 15:05:

Lets get the facts RIGHT, I never ever, ever called anyone a PREPAGO, I did not even knew what it meant until the &$# at )*&^ JS called ME a prepago because I have an apartment in El Poblado, he even said I was a Madam, and rapidly refer to me with sexual disgusting obscene words!, I hope he is not playing to be a little "innocent lamb" He is the one talking about his sister in law, bending over to get something, and he talking what a nice ass she had! . I bet he does no even have wife!.

CatGirl says on Jan 27, 2008, 17:41:

Whoah! I missed an interesting thread here!

ooops! ....Did I say that?

msaucey says on Jan 27, 2008, 18:55:

CG, don't feel alone... Me too... Over 100 responses, and we missed the party... Geez.... Must have been taking a cat nap...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

Lisa Zee says on Jan 27, 2008, 20:08:

Me 3!. And I had no idea I was being crucified behind my back!

morphus says on Jan 28, 2008, 05:49:

I'm a victim too. People say all kinds of dirty things about me that are'nt true.

Man Tequila says on Jan 28, 2008, 08:11:

You wanted to rid this site of trolls. And now JS says he is leaving.

These must be connected in some way. Think, Tequila. Think.

I would have tried to lure them all into one place by advertising a big troll party with lots of food and bridges.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

pedro says on Jan 28, 2008, 08:23:

Haha good one Man T.

Maybe a troll reinado? A spectacular gala event where the king of trolls will be selected and crowned once and for all.

The truly professional trolls have about 20 different nametags pinned to their chest... one for each of their multiple identities.

¡save pow wow!

podborski says on Jan 28, 2008, 08:27:

I'm looking forward to seeing if we can spot UC/JS in future...I think his style is pretty easy to spot though

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 28, 2008, 08:28:

Lisa, this is all up front. And I wasn't blaming you.

BTW I went through 17 pages of your comments (you girl talk a lot!!!) and could not find the specific comment I had in mind. I found plenty of comments in which you talked about UC and his wife, but not the one in which you called her "maybe a prepago" or something. Most probably I have deleted the post or the comment myself. But boy, there were some angry replies for sure!

Anyway, that's history now. UC has quit the board and we who knew him from the beginning (he registered as a member of this board one day before me, in 2003) knew another side in him, which you of course, didn't get to know, because he was behaving like a troll at the time you started here. I have said that he brought this upon himself and can only blame himself if people think he's disgusting and a royal pain, because that's exactly what he was being at the time.

I made excuses for you, Lisa, for your angry replies to him and he wanted me to send you packing, which I refused to do.

I wish he'd come back, not as john_stark, or the dozen other monikers he's had (and definitely not as elreydelostrolls) but as himself, the UC who once was my friend.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Albatross says on Jan 28, 2008, 09:24:

"These must be connected in some way. Think, Tequila. Think.
I would have tried to lure them all into one place by advertising a big troll party with lots of food and bridges." - LOL (cool avatar, by the way)

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

beisbollover says on Jan 28, 2008, 10:06:

I just post and ignore....anyone who listens to a troll will soon learn from they're mistake.

Lisa Zee says on Jan 28, 2008, 12:12:

Desi I know you always to be very fare and you know how he is. I was looking for my replays also, He started flirting with me, then it turned into hate!, I started to despise him whenever he started to bash anything about Colombia, and then me, I was just defending myself. but I know you were doing your job. Thank you!.

He will always be back as a troll, he loves controversy!

goin_south says on Jan 28, 2008, 16:02:

I'm not defending anything, but if people like you, Lisa, and Monpirri, (interesting maybe that both of you are colombians, living in the states)... but, if you had understood his humour, nothing he ever said would have bothered you. or, Monpirri. Everything he ever wrote would have been like.......
..................................water off the back of a Duck ;-)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Lisa Zee says on Jan 28, 2008, 17:58:

He is embarrassing to this forum, there were some things that can not be ignored, specially when he directed sexual foul language to me. people come to this forum to find information and he was was plain disgusting and ignorant about anything about Colombian and Colombians.

goin_south says on Jan 28, 2008, 19:13:

AAAAANNND.... OTHERS, monpirri... lest you accuse me of pickin on ya...

I didn't mean to pick on jus you and Lisa.
It was such that, some here understood and (appreciated?) (yeah, many times!) his humour; and it seemed to me, most gringos understood UTC.

But, ... I'm going back in time probably over a year ago and before, I suppose.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Lisa Zee says on Jan 29, 2008, 17:54:

I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT J.S, UTOPIAC, EL REY DE LOS TROLLS IS SAYING GOODBYE """""AGAIN""" HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.JAJAJAJAJAJA.I CAN`T BELIEVE FOR A SECOND THAT HE WILL JUST GO AWAY!!!!, JAJAJAJAJA. DON`T YOU REMEMBER HIM SAYING GOODBYE LAST WHEN HE WAS UTC?
THIS IS HISTERICAL! HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THAT HE IS NOT ONE OR 2 OR 3 OF THE TROLLS HERE!. I AM SORRY,BUT THIS IS RICH!

tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 01:07:

Actually, Lisa, when he said goodbye as UC, he said that he would come back as a reincarnation. I do believe that he is gone.

webmanco says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:31:

Was not UTC or El Rey de los trolls motto "muerte a los gringos" ??


That along will give you an Idea of his sense of humor! A palabras necias oidos sordos.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:55:

You got it, Web. I think his xenophobia was an attempt at sarcasm. But I failed to see the humor.

The blow-up dolls I understood.

sloopskipper says on Jan 30, 2008, 08:54:

"muerte a los gringos" ?, JS in a pretty lame attempt at humor, or sarcasm

billyb says on Jan 30, 2008, 08:56:

His problem wasn't what he said, but the fact that he couldn't take it when it blew back.

morphus says on Jan 30, 2008, 09:09:

It looked like J_S was having a good. I don't know why he quit. He'll probably be back as a worse troll. The themes will be much more brutal...no more blow up doll jokes. He used to say a lot of bad stuff about me but it never bothered me and I never held it against him. Its not like we ever really knew each other in real life.

Man Tequila says on Jan 30, 2008, 09:43:

I don't think UC ever came back to CBlog. I stick by my 3:2 odds on him coming back here.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

Gomezman5 says on Jan 30, 2008, 10:02:

Now hold on a minute........I thought since I took a hiatus from this site, all would be peaceful and tranquil....? Can it possibly be that others come here only for the purpose of starting wars.I did not know that I had competition in that regard.

As to charging a fee...? What the hell good would that do? For those that come here soley for the purpose of making so many peoples' lives miserable, they would still be getting off (no pun intended) fairly cheaply if all they had to do is pay 5 bucks for the right to do so.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 30, 2008, 11:35:

Welcome back Gomez.
How's the parrot?

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

tejasmarcos says on Jan 30, 2008, 16:21:

$5 is a nice donation here in Colombia. i would ask that more trolls join in the fun. come on.......... it's for a good cause - who's gonna be troll of the year?

* it will be kind of like the gong show. am i showing my age?

god is in your head

goin_south says on Jan 30, 2008, 18:02:

well, I do have to say so myself: It's good to know you are alive, Gomexicoman5!
Isn't the World Cup coming this year again? or, is that still two years away?
Got to get the blood running for that.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!