How good is chapinero

adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2005, 15:15:

paola hernandez says on Nov 7, 2005, 15:20:

good as in the luxury. What kind of people live there.

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Rubiazo says on Nov 7, 2005, 15:21:

HAHAHAH what happened to the grandfather comment? Chapinero is mostly Estrato 4 to Estrato 6. Lots of nice houses and doorman buildings. The only drag is that the air is especially polluted around there. But other than that it's my favorite area of the city.

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webmanco says on Nov 7, 2005, 16:00:

I would say

I would say Chapinero is more in the range of estratos 3 to 5.



November

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2005, 19:04:

kernow62 says on Nov 7, 2005, 20:10:

Pappassito that area is the one I like too. My wife used to live near Chapinero and felt reasonably secure there, but there were occasional problems.

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dioi says on Nov 8, 2005, 12:27:

A couple questions Since the North is where the wealth is (or so it seems), do these areas attract dangerous crime? - despite the fact that I hear it's the most safe?

also, are these areas divided racially? i.e. is the north mostly european-Colombians (unfortunately also the typical wealth divide) and if so, would non-European Colombians venture there?

(pardon my ignorance)

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Gator says on Nov 8, 2005, 14:14:

What is A European Colombian? My wife. who is a, COLOMBIAN said "What the Hell is this boba talking about?" Just like I am an Irish-American but what the hell does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
(What Mrs Gator really said is, "No le hagas caso a ese tonta." But my translation will do.)

I live in a very good area, Los Rosales, and we have almost no crime and not that much noticeable police presence. The more affluent do live in the north-so what?

Why is race and wealth always brought into the equation?

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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PEPITO EL TRAVIESO says on Nov 9, 2005, 05:50:

CHAPINERO IS THE BEST...NOW.. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR "THE BOY BOY CONECCTION", CHAPINERO IS THE BEST AHI ES DONDE ESTAN TODOS LOS BARES GAYS, NO ELEGANTES, PERO DESCOMPLICADOS, SIN MEMBRECIAS, Y PASES "VIP" QUE SOLO SIRVEN PARA SACARLE PLATA A LA GENTE "FATUA" QUE SE LAS QUIERE DAR DE PERENECER AL "JET SET", CHAPINERO TIENE CUALQUIER CANTIDAD DE BARES DE AMBIENTE Y GENTE COMUN Y CORRIENTE NO GENTE POSTISA, GENTE SENCILLA Q'HACEN DE LAS DISCOTECAS Y BARES LUGAR AGRADABLE CON UN AMBIENTE SANO Y ACOGEDOR, YO SE LO DIGO, QUE VIVO EN MIAMI FLORIDA Y SE DE CLUBES NOCTURNOS, "CHAPINERO IS THE BEST", ESPECIALMENTE LA OFICINA UN BARCITO PEQUENO PERO MUY ACOGEDOR DIVIERTASE Y NO SE PREOCUPE POR LOS COVERS O LAS MEBRECIAS DE LOS CLUBES DE LA CALERA QUE NO ESTAN EN NDADA Y SON SUPER ABURRIDOS MUY ENCOPETADOS PERO SOLO PARA SACARLE LOS VERDES A LOS TURISTAS, COLOMBIANO EN EL EXTERIOR QUE DISFRUTA CON SU GENTE DE CHAPINERO, NINOS MUY LINDOS Y SENCILLOS. RAFAEL B

RAFAEL B

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cochopechocho says on Nov 9, 2005, 05:58:

Rubiazo "IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR "THE BOY BOY CONECCTION", CHAPINERO IS THE BEST AHI ES DONDE ESTAN TODOS LOS BARES GAYS,"

Rubiazo

It this why Chapinero is your favorite part of town? JAJAJA !!!

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shazam (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 9, 2005, 07:20:

Gomezman5 says on Nov 9, 2005, 11:20:

Chapinero.....has diversity...and then some. For one thing, I would also agree with webmanco in that they are more representative of statas 3-5. The rich cultural diversity, as well as socio economic diversity is what makes Chapinero a "must" for any tourist to Bogota'. My goodnes. It amazes me how the first thing people talk about when suggesting place to go in Bogota, is Parque 93. What is so special about this place. For people who live in the US, and those that also happen to live in or near major American cities, I say. "So what." It is the most tourist concentrated part of Bogota that I can think of.

Chapinero is one area that has managed to grow in many respects even during some of Bogota's more turbulent times. It is a commercial center for sure. But the people who shop there and work there are really representative of the typical "Rolo." The university students who both sutdy there and party there, will give an outsider the opportunity to absorb a true diversity of thought that can really only be obtained in that part of the city. From an architectural perspective, one can see how some of the older structures have been beautifully restored in recent years as renovation of these structures have been ongoing.

I would visit there, party there, and even live there. To me, it's a must on anyones agenda when visiting Bogota.

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Rubiazo says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:13:

That's why I like it there soo much To me it represents the 'real' Bogota much more than the North does. The North could really be a wealthy part of any American city, except that there seems to be a lot more prepagos :P

I had no idea about the gay shit. I actually wish I were bisexual instead of heterosexual, then the WHOLE planet would be in danger :))

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dioi says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:24:

To Gator I'm not a boba actually, please inform your wife. Rather, I will be living in Colombia soon, have never been there before but have a place lined up in the North of Bogota (calle 147). I am quite dark myself, and judging by the average judgements around wealth, class and unfortunately race, which I would be a boba to ignore, I have to wonder how I will feel. An informed traveller should try to find answers to all of their questions, even the ones they'll be called tonta for asking. It couldn't hurt to find out why someone is asking a question before making assumptions, or insulting them for that matter.

From my observations, PBH is the safest place to ask those hard to ask questions!

BTW, a European Colombian is a Colombian with European heritage, whether they came in 1492 or 2005, who is not also of Native or African descent or mixed race.

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Gator says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:41:

FYI My wife has Spanish, Indian and likly some Negro blood but she considers herself, oddly enough, a Colombian. You will see all types of people in the North.

Back to the original question, "Why is race and wealth always brought into the equation?"

You have a LOT to learn.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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dioi says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:50:

wow, it's such a fine line b/w info and polemic debate Again I am trying to inform myself based on what I don't know, rather than fishing for a lecture on what someone thinks I should/need to learn. I do know there are many types of Colombians, oddly enough, you will also find that mixed countries still have their issues. Take a look at the history of conflict of some of the most mixed countries. Also, how can I not look at class, race and wealth when the areas of Colombia and elsewhere in Latin America where infrastructure is at its worst just happens to be in rural areas (okay, given) but they also just happen to be the areas where "negros" y "indígenos" live predominantly. Everyone has a lot to learn. Everyone should also familiarize themselves with the nitty gritty and the whys and hows of current political situations and then ponder them.

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adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:53:

dioi says on Nov 9, 2005, 17:57:

thanks adrimm good points adrimm and thank you for acknowledging my question. I am mainly concerned about how I will feel when I get to my new place of residence and you've just helped me to have a better understanding of that.

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Scott says on Nov 10, 2005, 13:43:

paola, in september I stayed a week in Chapinero (8 weeks ago). 5th & 63rd. I liked it. Visited the north but that area felt like the USA. Kind of boring and reserved.

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stripes says on Nov 12, 2005, 08:46:

Strata map The Bogota city planning department has the most recent strata map at:

http://www.dapd.gov.co/www/resources/dec200-04.jpg

Keep in mind that strata are set up by blocks, so it doesn't necessarily mean you are getting a mansion in strata 6. As areas like Chico continue to redevelop, expect some 5ish areas to become 6s.

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Cerealkiller says on Nov 13, 2005, 09:56:

Gator To answer your question. Ever since colonial times lighter complexions have been favoured. Perhaps because back then they could claim to have an European ancestry which made it easier to climb up social position. Blacks and Indigenous populations have always been quite poor. Have you noticed there arent many colored people living up North? I think it is something very obvious in Colombia, just look at models and actresses, they clearly do not represent the colombian majority, if they didnt open their mouths Id believe theyre european. Same happens with politicians, look at the past 4 presidents, theyre fairly light skinned and that is no coincidence. Another example and I am sure Elmo could explain this a little further, go to Cartagena and BAQ, id say 80% of the local "aristocracy" if not megawhite, theyre very european looking. There are several anthropological and historical studies by European and American authors. Its funny how Colombians themselves really dont see it Id say it is because they are not brought up with that clear distinction or what race means seeing as a great deal of the population is a mix...but the fact that the most affluent zones often shelter lighter skinned people is super clear.
Just go to Universidad Javeriana or Andes for that matter, and i can guarantee the number of black colombian or indigenous colombian is no greater than 10 and i think i am being generous with my figures.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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eeelena says on Sep 25, 2008, 00:25:

Anyone ever heard of La Casa Terraza, a little co-op/hostel for travelers in Chapinero? Reviews?

Elena

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