How do I convince my son?

Robert Jorge says on Oct 1, 2007, 21:16:

Well I am between you and your son's age. Just my opinion, maybe playing a little reverse psychology would be the most effective way to get your son to travel with you to Colombia. Here is the way I would try to manipulate him.

You talking to your son. "Ya, I guess it wasn't a good idea to ask if you wanted to go to Colombia. You probably wouldn't like it." Then, casually mention in later conversations things like, "Maybe it is a good thing you didn't want to go. I would have to be worried about the local girls constantly making passes at you." Or say something like, "You would be bored down there. There isn't much to do outside of all the typical tourism things like museums, hiking, horse riding, stuff like that. The only other thing people do down there when they aren't working is party. And I know you wouldn't be into clubbing or going to festivals."

Anyway, just some ideas. Good luck. I am going through a reverse situation as yours. I can't get my parents to go to Colombia.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

wcarmack says on Oct 2, 2007, 00:01:

You are not alone. Try convincing four children that it is time Mom & Dad just closed down life in North America and returned to where they met.......................

Good luck. Since he is a Marine (no such thing as an "ex" Marine) present it to him as tour of duty - a recon mission in search of a possibly more rewarding life.

But what do I know? The best I have been able to do is get two of the children to agree to meet us on San Andres Island for a few weeks in December. Hopefully they will become more interested after that. We tried to get them to the north coast but .......................

woody

slguy says on Oct 2, 2007, 00:15:

Why work so hard at convincing adult children to listen to parent's advice? If they aren't smart enough to listen, it's their loss, no?

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Man Tequila says on Oct 2, 2007, 00:16:

Tell him why you like the country, then let him decide for himself if he wants to go there.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

pedro says on Oct 2, 2007, 00:30:

Photos. Send him some landscapes, and some of the girls. They should pique his interest.

If you lined up someone that would take him out and party, show him the town, someone his age, that might help. Tell him you've already fixed it up with X and the invitation is open whenever he wants to come down. Then tell him when the best time of year is to visit (festivals etc).

que nota!

Piapo says on Oct 2, 2007, 01:35:

Take him to Cartagena or Santa Marta, sun & beach always help! and I say it because I'm 25...

john_stark says on Oct 2, 2007, 05:47:

Now, Dad, just because you're getting more chucha than you even dreamed possible that doesn't mean your son needs to go to Colombia too. He's young and he's got game so he doesn't need to mess with chicks milking him for dough. He can still get the gringas to give him some backdoor action. When he's old and decrepit like you and can't remember which day of the week it is, then it will be time for him to give Colombia a try.

suizo says on Oct 2, 2007, 07:58:

Wow, you're a cool dad...my dad tries to convince me NOT to go to Colombia. Have I listened to him? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA COLOMBIA!!!!!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 11:12:

One more here for the club "my kids don't want to visit Colombia". My grown kids absolutely refuse to go to the country of their birth not even for a short visit. They say it's boring, dangerous, too expesive, too far and that they've been there already too many times whe they were younger and I dragged them there.

Once I have established a household there and start spending several months of the year there I'm sure they'll eventually show up.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

coffee beaner says on Oct 2, 2007, 11:18:

Chris, tell your son that punani like in Colombia you won't find anywhere else. I lived in New York almost all my life and you can't find women like the ones here. I was also in the Corps for 4 years with 2nd BN 5th Marines and lived down in SoCal and not even there you can find punani like here in Medallo. Women in the U.S. are lame compared to women here in Colombia, by the way I am also 24 so it's not like an old guy is telling you this. QUE VIVA COLOMBIA HP!

esanch36 says on Oct 2, 2007, 11:31:

Desi...i used to hate going to colombia when i was a little kid too..the last time i went was when i was 12 abosulutly hated it..but then i went when i was 24,,had more freedom could do what i wanted,,and absolulty feel in love with the country not to mention the ladies are unbeleivable...i would suggest telling him that girls will be all over his nuts...and that they are some of the most beautiful in the country

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

esanch36 says on Oct 2, 2007, 11:34:

i mean world

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 12:40:

I've tried that one...he says he prefers redheads...:) He is also under this false impression that many Colombian girls are superficial, plastic, vain ad frivolous...wonder where did he get that idea?(He was totally charmed by Kat, though, but then again, who isn't :)) My daughter is interested, but says that she wants to go to other places where she hasn't been before first and they are pretty tied up now with a baby and the house, work, study etc.

I'm totally convinced that if I get my son to go over there he would absolutely love it and the chances are that he might even become a true patriot and not want to come back. I'd hate to put all that distance between our family members, we're a small family and have always been close.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

esanch36 says on Oct 2, 2007, 12:47:

How old is he desi?? Tell him that if he came and spent some time,,,he woould feel like a king there

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 12:59:

Lol desi and i was charmed by him, he is a good looking guy.


my kids still enjoy going to Colombia so hope this doesn't change, i got a bit worry about my son few years back , because my family was telling him not to go there or do that because it was dangerous and blah blah so he felt a bit trap without freedom, he said once he didn't want to go back because of that, so i had to tell my family to lay off a bit. now he is very happy going there, so much that he is going to live there for 6 month in his gap year.

my daughter well she change every year.. this year she wants to be in the UK




I have a Colombian friend who's son stopped going to Colombia because her family there were protecting him so much that he felt like my son trap, he got scared and paranoid, so he decided it was not worth the hassle.

engage brain before opening mouth

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:01:

Desi tell your son that i will go with him :)))))

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:09:

LOL kat, I'll tell him just that! That might do it!

I think they stopped wanting to go to Colombia because they would always stay at grandparents' and now that they are gone and the family is split with their uncles all hating each others and everybody fighting like cats and dogs over the few pesos that was the inheritance.

I've been trying to show him pictures of lovely caleñas but he refuses to open my e-mails with jpeg. files. ;(( He´'s told me to back off.!!!

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

LA_MONA says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:15:

My inlaws protect me way too much too and it does really put you off.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

msaucey says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:28:

Chrispej, I'm not sure where you all are coming from... But, at 24, he might be more interested in the adventurous safe side of Colombia.... It also depends on where you are planning to go in Colombia... If you set-up a few side trips of things that he may like to do, you may peek his interest.... Rafting on the Rio Fonce... Driving in Bogota (always an adventure).... Sunbathing in Santa Martha.... It all depends on his interests, Colombia has a lot to offer younger people now, more then in the past.... Clubs stay open until about 3:30am.... all types of clubs....

Desi, I remember on one of my trips as a kid, I barely left my grandmother's house!!! That was such a downer... But, we always made sure to go somewhere during my stay... I don't know if they still have it in Cali, but I think it's called El Parque de Caña.... It's the big waterpark in Cali... And of course since we're in Pereira, always went to the Termales....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

slguy says on Oct 2, 2007, 14:08:

Desi, what are the adoption laws up there? If kat will go to Colombia with your son, I wanna be adopted, please? ;)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:11:

You don't need to be adopted to go to Colombia with kat, slguy ;) (I can only think how jealous elmo, belucciguy and about two dozen other guys are feeling right now ....I've gotta tell my son. He's in his late twenties, btw, not a child any longer:))

OH, slguy, I just saw a pic that might've interested you, since you'd like yo be adopted bt a Swedish couple,but it's not on the net. Two totally gorgeous Swedish blondes have gotten married, Mrs. Anderson and Mrs. Lundgren. Both wore the traditional white bridal attire with veil and flowers, married in the church, all tradition.- That's the kind of adoptive parents you were thinking about?
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

RussianFred says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:22:

Well that is the difference between South America and North America. The children in North America have little respect for the old!!!!

I bet you will not be able to cange his mind. Talk to his friends indirectly. Children respect friend more than parents. Maybe the word is not respect but listen too....

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

Medellin Traveler says on Oct 2, 2007, 22:53:

If you want to convince anyone you have to show them what it is about Colombia that you like. They will make up their minds for themselves.

Here´s a start... http://medellintraveler.com

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slguy says on Oct 3, 2007, 17:38:

Desi,

If it's a choice between a few jealous PBHers, and Kat in Colombia- guess who loses? jajajajjaja

Now about this Swedish couple- I suspect, given your description, I only could admire from afar, no? But I'd love to dee the fotos....;)

Late 20's, your son? Too young. Dont bother him with Kat's offer....jajajajajjaja

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la campiña says on Oct 3, 2007, 19:10:

dark skin long legs, salsa, green grass, palm trees, BIG brown eyes, love , rice, lentils., mañana, si, si si, asi, asi ,asi , habla español, no !! puedo ayuder, bienvenidos, gringo , mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

la campiña says on Oct 3, 2007, 19:15:

NO, but this is true, my son came to visit me here in cali with his girlfriend 2 months ago they had a great time , we visited many places , pero, he is coming back this december alone, ALONE, yo no se por que, but I might have a good idea, this sounds bad but, maybe he has seen the light, I'll let you know.

eywed says on Oct 4, 2007, 04:05:

la campiña- I did not know light had curves like that.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

dwmte7 says on Oct 5, 2007, 10:07:

the poster above is absolutely correct....ain't no such thing as an ex-marine...semper fi.

tell that jar head that the real mission is down below and he'll find more action down in latin america than he ever imagined. real action...however he likes it. women, partying, fighting, you name it, we got it. tell him an old ground pounder said he'll regret every minute he doesn't go once he sees what it's all about.
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