Hostage situation right now in dowtown Bogota

dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:11:

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 10:17:

So what does Mr Edgar want now? (Besides attention)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 10:18:

Or should I call him by his preferred name "Eddy" or better "Eduardo"

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:20:

Money for damages suffered while on military service.

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dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:21:

He wants his pention from 15 years service in the Military. He is mad that FARC who abandon their war get money and fame and yet Colombian soldiers get nothing for their years of service.

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dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:21:

pension

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dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:22:

Listen to the radio on the website. He called into Sanchez Christo on the radio with his demands. He has 19 hostages and a grenade.

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dogfart says on May 21, 2008, 10:25:

... he`s going to get a nice pension in the clinck !
How does Colombia deal with these kind of demands?
(btw, anybody has the English version?)

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:26:

http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/articulo-un-hombre-armado-...



Foto: Katherine Loaiza
Momentos en los cuáles el hombre mantenía como rehenes a los funcionarios

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Bluesdude says on May 21, 2008, 10:27:

Colombia doesn't seem to treat their veterans any better than the US

Bluesdude No Mas Gringas Por La Vida

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RAAAY says on May 21, 2008, 10:32:

19 hostages taken in Bogota.???????????.........Oh Lord, I have a sneaky suspicion I know who one of those 19 is going to be...........!!!!!!

Are we to look forward to a dramatic tall tale, of the perils of living in Colombia, as told by a ' hostage " from the bowels of the event ???

Could it beeeee ??.........


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:33:

You think he's in there?

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dwr says on May 21, 2008, 10:35:

Well Dogfart, you have your answer. Colombia enters by force and takes down the hostage taker whenever possible. Russian Style!

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:35:

Estará tostado?

Taken from El Espectador

http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/articulo-un-hombre-armado-...

It seems the guy got lots to say, and many here would not want to believe.


" A finales de 1981 aparece la cooperativa Convivir (conformada por varios miembros del Ejército), con el patrocinio de la Gobernación de Antioquia bajo el mando de �?lvaro Uribe. En ese mismo tiempo recibimos la orden en la cooperativa de eliminar a Navarro Wolf".

Paz aseguró que participó en el atentado de Navarro con una granada y aseguró que en el momento los felicitaron, pero cuando recibieron la noticia que el politico se había salvado, recibió un fuerte castigo.

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 10:43:

dwr; He is mad that FARC who abandon their war get money and fame and yet Colombian soldiers get nothing for their years of service.

I repeat...happens everywhere. Another slight comparison? Many of the Butchers Unions were "regulated" by the Mafia in the EEUU (sorry I consider FARC to be the guerrilla version of Mafia today). and most of the people that were up for retirement in the 90's got nothing because of illegal "investments" (ja!) that had zero returns. It is still happening. Wait for the employees of most major newspapers to retire! Guess where that retirement money went?

Same situation only different ;))

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 21, 2008, 10:50:

Seems a bit of a common theme - disgruntled vets with grenades. Remember the guy and his dad in the wheelchair who smuggled grenades on a commercial flight and flew to Bogota where they held hostages, all because the guy had never gotten paid his settlement for getting shot by the cops?

Maybe it's a sign Colombia should work out the bureaucratic red tape a little better.

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:51:

It is a sign Colombia should work on social investement instead of arms and war.

Many case don´t hit the press.

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/here-is-what-happened-last-night...

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 11:02:

Webman: You are very impressive ;)). Are you a reporter or investigative writer?

Mr H: Maybe it's a sign Colombia should work out the bureaucratic red tape a little better.

Yes...but I think they need to also be more vigilant vs unaccountable. Seems to be too much vagueness in the system ...creating that feeling of powerlessness

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bickerss says on May 21, 2008, 11:05:

A street guy threw a grenade into a police station two weeks ago in Medelin in El Centro. Disgruntled with his ecenomic situatio (I think).

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 21, 2008, 11:06:

Sure. I don't disagree at all. It's shameful when people who fought for a country get the runaround from the "system."

I was stunned a while ago when I learned a friend of mine was working with homeless vets in the USA. I said, "Oh, you mean Viet Nam vets?" and she said, "No, I mean young guys who just came back from combat in Iraq and are now homeless." It's a big problem, not just a few people. Really shocking and shameful, whether its happening in Colombia or the USA.

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miamimike says on May 21, 2008, 11:18:

Hollywood--we have a lot of Homeless Vets(Vietnam era, Desert storm, Iraq) living just a few blocks North of Downtown Miami(NE 2nd ave) and west of the Miami Heat Basketball Arena. No surprise to us here in Miami, Homeless Vets,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 11:56:

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slguy says on May 21, 2008, 12:04:

"It is a sign Colombia should work on social investement instead of arms and war"

seems to me it's only a sign that there oughta be a police sniper better positioned. you don't take hostages to get attention for personal problems.

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 12:10:

I guess there had not been enough good snippers at universities elsewhere.

How people get atention elsewhere? by shoot outs at universities campus.


Don´t tass me bro

hehe

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slguy says on May 21, 2008, 12:25:

:-)

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juancegomez says on May 21, 2008, 13:57:

Threatening people with death or injury is not a valid way of getting attention in my book. Even if your own life is at stake, you shouldn't try to deal death and harm to others, especially to people who have nothing to do with your problems.

I feel some initial human pity and empathy for this man, to a point, but I don't know the details of his case and it would be too much of me to say what the government did wrong, what the man did wrong (in terms of his pension requirements) and so forth. If the government failed him, and it's likely it did because "the system" is quite flawed as we can see on a regular basis, there must be other ways, even if they aren't as spectacular, to find a solution and force the state to give him what he is owed, if he so deserves it. The rest, I cannot say.

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docwilliam says on May 21, 2008, 14:17:

I have worked with Disabled Vets for many years, in the U.S. and there are many programs out there to help them. The problem is the lack of knowlege about the programs. Never in my 45 years of life, has programs for Vets been so good! The main problem is....too get halp from the Government, you have to go through The Government. (and that frase speaks for itself).

"There's no time to panic"

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Alma del Norte says on May 21, 2008, 16:03:

Don't you know mental illness when you see it or you just don't care?

Bastard delayed my almuerzo for a whole 5 minutes.

La vida es una rutina

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Alma del Norte says on May 21, 2008, 16:05:

Yeah, and even the presidential guard had to turn out!

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slguy says on May 21, 2008, 17:14:

mental illness is my last concern when a guy has innocent hostages and a grenade.

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rocinante says on May 21, 2008, 19:59:

Pienso en "El coronel no tiene quien le escriba".

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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