HIV Testing - Medellin?

Miguel says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:43:

Dude Ask her in English/Spanish/Ruso or sign language. She will understand.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:45:

My wife would have been highly insulted if I had asked her to take an HIV test. To her it would have been insinuating that she had slept around.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Canadian Girl says on Jun 7, 2005, 10:48:

Medallo Dude I think the question is the same in any language, it is an important test and she should respect that. If she doesn't then she's probably not the woman for you. I asked one of my best friends she is from Bogota originally and she agrees with me.

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2retirensa says on Jun 7, 2005, 11:19:

Red Cross Go to the local Red Cross (La Cruz Roja). The test will be back in a few days and will be very inexpensive (under $20, maybe only $12). They will have the same procedure as here in the US. You will be "counseled", asked some questions about your past "activities" and then return in person for your test results in a couple days. It will be done anonymously- make sure you keep your receipt because you will probably be a number in the computer.
You may try the approach with your lady that you would like to be tested for HER peace of mind and security. If she has any sensitivity she will volunteer to do the same. If not, just ask. This is the same all over the world these days- I agree with Canadian girl- she isn't the right woman for you if she objects. You don't have to sleep around to be HIV+.
Maureen

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medallo_dude says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:02:

Thanks for the advice Thanks for the comments. I agree with CanadianGirl - but I know that it is a touchy subject. Even in Canada many women (and men) have never been tested for HIV and getting a test is a procedure many don't want to undergo if it's not a sure bet for a long-term thing.

I will try the Red Cross and think about how to broach the subject with this lovely girl I've met.

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caslug says on Jun 7, 2005, 12:07:

Keep this in mind.. unless u r serious w/ the girl(ie, monogamous) it's still better to keep it wrapped. Plus, HIV test is only that, what about the other STD that are more common? You might want to do a full battery of test for you and your girl.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 15:04:

Yippee kiya! Ride 'em barebac Yippee ki yay! Ride 'em bareback!

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 16:40:

Cowboy Been there; done that; have the new tax exemption for 2005.

Also after carefully reviewing immigrations paper work I sat her down and asked her is she had ever been a prostitute, convicted of drug laws in any way, or ever been arrested or in a police station for any problems. It may not be pleasant but it needs to be covered before you start down the ol immigration trail.

Cowboy... my wife was shocked to learn that she had been infected with syphlis while in a five year "monogamous" relationship. When she called to inform her former boyfriend to get checked and treated he related that he had taken care of things three years earlier. Of course he failed to let her know. Yet another immigration hurdle.

In the end you gotta be true to yourself.

t

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 16:46:

Yep, you turned that bull loose!

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Lionheart says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:01:

don't forget pride asking for an HIV test is like telling somebody s/he sleeps around.

Doing it yourself and showing the results might backfire, basically you are telling that you are clean even though you are sleeping around.

I have stepped into this trap both ways and I haven't found a solution yet. Needing/doing a test is for many an admittance of sleeping around and you are pronounced guilty.

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poco says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:25:

Bullets bother me less Since poor old Rock Hudson got infected from a toilet seat I've always asked the woman if contemplating “exclusive rights”. The question with the word Let’s as in LET US is the the best way to approach the subject. I’ve never had any problems or so much as a surprised look. Then again the women would be over 30.

Colombia has many clinics in my poverty stricken rural area, testing is CHEAP, and no surprise when asked,,, go figure,,

The young and dumb ones will be your primary concern.

Just a thought, but you should consider an “anonymous” clinic if U.S. Nothing like having your primary care physician flip through 20 pages of test results that say HIV – Negative,, well,, lets hope they say Negative. This could lead your doctor to say something like “another girlfriend, already?”

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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caslug says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:25:

Disagree lionheart... HIV and STD is a very serious health issue.. In US, i've NEVER had problem getting GF to do test. The GF thought i was quite mature and thoughtful to ask and be test WITH them. Maybe because it's more accept that adults americans are sexually active. Of course, i've only proach this subject if the relationship gets pass 3 months and i don't want to wrap it anymore.

While it some women may feel insult by this(via cultural views), it's still your life. I rather pissed off a girl than catch STD because I was to shy to ask. Also, while you may trust/know that COL GF of your is sweet/innocent/monogamous w/ her ex-boyfriends, BUT DO YOU TRUST THE EX? Better question, do you trust the ex to be monogamous, not sleep around with other women or prostitutes? You're not staking your life on HER trust, you're staking your life on ALL HER EX'S.

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:28:

caslug My point exactly. No matter how well you may think you know the other party you are never assured of a monogamous relationship.

T

"cook some rice!"

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:32:

Good points, Caslug. An alternative would be finding a woman who has no ex's. Although some say that it isn't possible to find such a woman in Colombia.

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:35:

Hmmmm a thirty or fourty year old virgin in Colombia...now there is one scary thought!!!!

Tony

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caslug says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:39:

well UC, maybe.. we should just follow the lead of those gringos that Desi is alway bitching about.. The ones that hangout at chipichape drooling on young chicas, 20-30 yrs younger... I guess you gotta catch those young chicas before those chicos bag'em... unfortunately americans can only bag 18 yrs old or older by law. Where to find 18 yrs virgins in COL??? hmm... For those who can't them virgins, guess it's the HIV test then...

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poco says on Jun 7, 2005, 17:52:

Another alternative Good points, Caslug. An alternative would be finding a woman who has no ex's. Although some say that it isn't possible to find such a woman in Colombia.

Another thought provoker,, IT IS BEST,, trust me on this,, to find a WIDOW, many well to do Colombian husbands have met with accidents and some of the poor widows are left with nothing but a house, car and a low chance of finding a good job.

The girl I’m with is such an animal, except the car and moto had been sold and the house was more of a family commune.

Poor guy,, died before he was 40,, accidentally died from complications of toooooo much liquor, toooo many women coupled with a “small” drug habit that left him twitching and drooling from the mouth before he died. GOD rest his sole or is that soul?

I never asked what happened to him, (I'm thinking, better NOT to know) but when the Spanish version of “Just say NO to Drugs” was on TV they showed a man, twitching, foaming at the mouth, and generally in “bad shape”, oh he was in Hospital with tubes in his mouth, she commented to her son,, That’s what your dad looked like before he died.

(GRAPHIC is the best word for Colombian TV)

I'll add that DESI has told it "like it is" quite a few times. Unfortunatly,, it is hard to determine which times. Maybe womens view points, MINUS what she THINKS men might think, that seems OK

who knows, good thing I type fast, need to work on quality next, right after I edit this 4 times.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:20:

LOL Morphus so YOUR first question is whether they have had sexo de culo? Too Funny.

T

"cook some rice!"

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Lionheart says on Jun 7, 2005, 18:29:

don't misunderstand me HIV testing is important, and common in the USA. I just encountered the problems talking to Latinas in SA. For them it can only happen to bad people.

Morphus, you are wrong, it is an old assumption that mainly homosexuals, the needle and anal sex transfer HIV. Statistics show normal sex to be main transfer methode today. The young clubbing generation is the largest risk group today. I hope you aren't already infected because of your ignorance.

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poco says on Jun 7, 2005, 19:01:

Sad, Sad, Sad - Oh for the good ol' days Better listen to Lionheart.

One of the saddest days of my life was when they “invented” Herpes and almost total depression when AIDS came along. Still remember all those Hot Tub rental business folding up.

Another piece of luck,, I’d probably be dead now if this started 10 years earlier. Maybe a combination of nostalgia and a fading memory makes me say that.

Canada Public Health Agency – Take a Lick’n and keep on Tick’n

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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caslug says on Jun 7, 2005, 19:08:

Good one Morphus.. "its possible that your girlfriends ex-boyfriend was BI-SEXUAL and gave it to her in the backdoor. thats why i don't date girls that tried anal sex."-Morphus

r u saying STRAIGHT men DONT like going in the backdoor? Apparently you haven't watch straight porn or read ELMO's post.

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 19:28:

Caslug Turn er over; put it in four wheel drive and; git er done...LMAO


t

"cook some rice!"

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Lionheart says on Jun 7, 2005, 19:29:

ah poco ... memories yes, the mid-80s had a bad effect on my sex life as well, especially after the hippie free-love years in communes. I visited my cousin in San Francisco in 81, when the first mentions of an odd illness popped up, that only affected the homosexuals there. My cousin was one of first infected I think. He died 10 years later after long suffering. It took a long time until it made the rounds as an illness anybody can get.

Do a search on the web on statistics ... they are shocking.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2005, 21:10:

I agree with you, Poco, and I recommend widows having married one myself.

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lpdiver says on Jun 7, 2005, 21:48:

Morphus How exactly do you know she was a virgin? Hmmm?

T

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Inti´illapha says on Jun 8, 2005, 00:09:

Why so complicated.
Go with her to a blood donation.
In colombia they do automatically a HIV test once you want to donate blood.
Maybe you even get some money for it ;-)

Inti
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Lionheart says on Jun 8, 2005, 01:34:

morphus - I bet you are right Probably most sexual intercourse performed by members of PBH or in general happen without previous HIV testing and without further protection. And most of these happen between heterosexual couples, and several of these also have anal sex.

You singled yourself out by your statement that HIV is primarily found amoung homosexuals performing anal sex. It may not be your sexual preference, but it is probably more common than you want to know between heterosexuals. The sad part - or good part - is, that most trust their partners enough and they are either lucky or the trust was worthwhile. A few will not be lucky, or won't give a damn, and will pay the price. I just hope that these don't make too many others pay the price as well.

I really like the blood donation idea ...

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lpdiver says on Jun 8, 2005, 01:46:

From the college of american pathologist "Blood donations should not be done in order to get an AIDS test, because the HIV antibodies do not show up for weeks after an infection has occurred. Consequently, if you have possibly recently been exposed to HIV, you might incorrectly test negative for HIV at the time of blood donation. If there is the slightest chance you might have HIV, discuss this with your doctor or go to your local health department to get tested."

I am all for blood donors though.

Antony

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medallo_dude says on Jun 8, 2005, 06:26:

Cruz Roja The girl I met is from a small town named Tolu, it's not exactly equipped with the latest medical facilities. If I knew there was a Cruz Roja nearby I would ask her to go but I am having trouble finding one.

i totally intend on wrapping it... and asking her about her sexual history... the hiv test may be more difficult to get given the implication of asking, the fact that she is from a rural area, and that it probably isn't very easy to get one of those around there. your advice would be appreciated.

Thanks guys

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Inti´illapha says on Jun 8, 2005, 06:33:

"Blood donations should not be done in order to get an AIDS test, because the HIV antibodies do not show up for weeks after an infection has occurred"
Sure, but you would have the same problem making the normal AIDS test, donation or not. The result would be questionable.

Inti
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ColombiaBoard says on Jun 8, 2005, 06:50:

Where to get tested As is often the case, people here get too emotional about a topic and don´t answer the specific question.
Dude..., if you´re in El Poblado you can go to Clinica Las Vegas or Clinica Medellin (El Poblado Branch) and get tested for HIV and get the results in two-three days.

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Lionheart says on Jun 8, 2005, 22:03:

the tough truth As the last comments show ... simply asking for an HIV test or doing it yourself before you meet isn't enough if either of you are really concerned.

We all know what happens ... after months of communications via the Internet, phone, mail etc the emotional explosion when you meet makes everybody forget any precautions. Bottom line ... your gut feeling will tell you to trust, hope, and forget. Who will make arrangements for the time of arrival? Agree to have about 2 months protected sex, have blood tests done after 6 weeks, wait for the results, and then be secure, or not. I have yet to meet one couple that has been willing to go for full safety. I haven't done it, I admit it. But I do know my possible future partners in advance as well as possible to get a gut feeling. Many don't wait and grab the opportunity when it arrives.

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