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Is Hispanic considered to be a race or ethnicity. The more I deal with the U.S. system the more confused I get. The more I research iot the more confusing it (I) gets. It may actually be important to my soon to be born daughter someday.

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By lpdiver on Feb 2, 2005, 16:09 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


jccg says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:14:

Hispanic... It is related with lenguage, hispanic is the person who speeks spanish lenguage as a first lenguage.

This is just the true!!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:19:

I work on the web site of a very large financial services company. We recently made changes to the site that were mandated by the government to define Hispanic as an ethnicity rather than a race. You can now check off as many races as you need to describe yourself.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Lionheart says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:20:

Hispanic According to globalization rules all countries who speak a version of Spanish as primary language are considered Hispanic.

I have seen geo-political docments excluding Spain, but including Brasil and the non-Spanish speaking Caribbean islands. This is commonly applied in the USA, even though it is wrong. So if you are from Tinidad or want to go to Trinidad, you are expected to fill in the papers as Hispanic.

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ColombianoX says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:22:

An ethnicity, definitely. Hispanics are composed of many races (mestizos, mulattos, whites, blacks, indigenous, etc.).


CX

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Lionheart says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:44:

Hispanic Origin - U.S. Census Bureau Hispanic Origin
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, 2000 Census of Population, Public Law 94-171 Redistricting Data File. Updated every 10 years. http://factfinder.census.gov.

Definition:

Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino categories listed on the Census 2000 questionnaire -"Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano," "Puerto Rican", or "Cuban" -as well as those who indicate that they are "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino." Persons who indicated that they are "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino" include those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking countries of Central or South America, the Dominican Republic or people identifying themselves generally as Spanish, Spanish-American, Hispanic, Hispano, Latino, and so on.

Origin can be viewed as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States.

People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race. Thus, the percent Hispanic should not be added to percentages for racial categories. Tallies that show race categories for Hispanics and nonHispanics separately are available.

Scope and Methodology:

The data on the Hispanic or Latino population were derived from answers to a question that was asked of all people in Census 2000.

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eagle46 says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:50:

Hispanic Man, good question. May be like the "Jewish" thing. I still can't figure it out if being Jewish is a religion or a race, or both? I think that we (people) get into the habit of using terms/names etc. so loosely that eventually the names/terms loose their true meaning. Check out how the government defines it. Maybe that will help!

Adios!

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juanalejo says on Feb 2, 2005, 19:52:

hispanic vs latino I do not know how the US views it, but Hispanic implies from Spanish origin in language, while Latino includes Brazil and Haiti.

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Lionheart says on Feb 2, 2005, 20:54:

hispanic vs latino - difficult differences The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition:

Usage Note: Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino, which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano, refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning. In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. A more important distinction concerns the sociopolitical rift that has opened between Latino and Hispanic in American usage. For a certain segment of the Spanish-speaking population, Latino is a term of ethnic pride and Hispanic a label that borders on the offensive. According to this view, Hispanic lacks the authenticity and cultural resonance of Latino, with its Spanish sound and its ability to show the feminine form Latina when used of women. Furthermore, Hispanic, the term used by the U.S. Census Bureau and other government agenciesis, said to bear the stamp of an Anglo establishment far removed from the concerns of the Spanish-speaking community. While these views are strongly held by some, they are by no means universal, and the division in usage seems as related to geography as it is to politics, with Latino widely preferred in California and Hispanic the more usual term in Florida and Texas. Even in these regions, however, usage is often mixed, and it is not uncommon to find both terms used by the same writer or speaker.

Chicano is used only of Mexican Americans, not of Mexicans living in Mexico. It was originally an informal term in English (as in Spanish), and the spelling of the first recorded instance in an American publication followed the Spanish custom of lowercasing nouns of national or ethnic origin. However, the literary and political movements of the 1960s and 1970s among Mexican Americans established Chicano as a term of ethnic pride, and it is properly written today with a capital. While Chicano is a term of pride for many Mexican Americans, it remains a word with strong political associations. Since these politics are not necessarily espoused by all Mexican Americans, and since usage and acceptance of this word can vary from one region to another, an outsider who is unfamiliar with his or her audience may do well to use Mexican American instead.

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lpdiver says on Feb 3, 2005, 06:01:

On some of the governmental forms we have filled out You have the choice of choozing it as a race OR enthicity. On others you can choose both! I don't really care...but it seems the US government is playing games and latinos sometimes get counted twice...strange indeed.

Also at what point is one diluted down to the point of no longer being Hispanic.


Antony

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lpdiver says on Feb 3, 2005, 07:20:

Well There are governmental grants to support minorities. Free money!!!


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swedish_girl says on Feb 6, 2005, 15:46:

hispanic / latino is an american terminology, to be honest with you, to me colombians are simply colombians, racially speaking colombians go from a blonde hair blue eyed swedish looking paisa, to a black sudanese looking chocoano, and everything in between, so racially speaking colombians are a beautiful rainbow of colors.

culturally speaking, you go from the westernized, quiet, boring bogotanos, to the loud happy, salsa dancing vallunos, to the more africanized chocoanos, to the indigenous pastusos, to the caribbean costenos, so culturally speaking they are not a culture either, but many cultures in one single country.

the only thing colombians have in common among them is the language, and that changes too, because a costeno speaks very different from a paisa, and that pretty much applies to all the regions.

so to me colombians are colombians, i think hispanic is a US term and it's very innacurate, and for some reason i find the term to reflect more mexican culture, due to the huge mexican influence in america, rather than colombian culture.

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 7, 2005, 09:04:

The term "Hispanic" is also widely used in Canada. Also, Mexicans even in the US do not generally describe themselves as Hispanic.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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